2 Cops 1 Donut
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2 Cops 1 Donut
Balancing Authority with Compassion: Insights into Modern Policing Challenges
Join us as I, Host of Two Cops One Donut, Erik Lavigne and Banning Sweatland, with special guest, Daniel from Police Law News brings our seasoned perspective to a captivating discussion on contemporary law enforcement challenges. Amidst anecdotes of technical glitches and shared laughter, we explore the pressing debate over the necessity of signing traffic citations in an increasingly digital world. Get ready for a lively dialogue on topics ranging from the etiquette of traffic stops to the evolving protocols in vehicle impoundment, all through the lens of empathy and flexibility in policing. Please note, this was a live podcast and you can follow along visually from our YouTube page @TwoCopsOneDonut
Our conversation turns to the critical issue of police use of force, particularly when engaging with vulnerable populations like the elderly. Daniel provides thoughtful insights into the principles of objective reasonableness and the overarching importance of restraint and de-escalation. Through analysis of real-life scenarios, we examine how officers can balance authority with compassion, avoiding actions that could harm both individuals and the reputation of law enforcement.
We round out the episode with heartening stories of community policing, illustrating the profound impact of officers who go above and beyond to foster positive relationships with the public. Also, enjoy a lighthearted exchange about a pot-bellied pig's unexpected visit, adding a touch of humor to our exploration of serious topics. Tune in for a blend of expert analysis and engaging storytelling that sheds light on the human side of policing.
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Speaker 2:Daniel, what's up, buddy? Hey, how's it going? Can you guys hear me? All right, or no?
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, sorry it went late, that's all right man. Yeah, we are live right now, so let's go to the chat, because I know they're going to be going crazy. Sorry guys, I apologize. My kid's basketball game ran over.
Speaker 4:You want to throw your disclaimer up real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, give me one second. I'm all discombobulated. All my shit is is going on. Everything looks weird. Tops one donut podcast. The views and opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are their own and Um Content provided by guests is of their own volition and listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions. Furthermore, some content is graphic and has harsh language, viewer discretion advised and is intended for mature audiences. Two Cops, one Donut and its host do not accept any liability for statements or actions taken by guests. Thank you for listening. Oh my god, I don't even have my timing down and didn't get my video playing correctly. Jeez, oh pete. So uh, yeah, um new guest tonight. I got daniel from Police Law News on TikToks and Instagrams and all that, daniel. How are you, sir? Great. Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 1:You got a pretty large delay. I'm not sure why or what's going on, but I'll keep that in mind. While we're talking, greg Eliason's on he said said, what's up, fuckers? Uh, daniel, you have a delay. Yeah, thank you, ma'am, and my wife was nice, nice enough to uh bring me a whiskey ball, get some whiskey going. I, I'm serious, like my brain cannot. I don't even have any videos ready to go, like I normally do, so I'm going to have to pull up some videos.
Speaker 4:Hey, that's what this is all about. Man On the fly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, it is what it is Everybody. Thank you for your patience. Thanks, for I mean we've already got 30 people logged in, so I appreciate that that. I mean we've already got 30 people logged in, so I appreciate that. That's a full classroom. So and we're live. David says Face frogs out. He's like what's up everybody? Oh shit, we had some shenanigans. Daniel's having a little connection issue. Daniel, just for those that were wondering, daniel is, I believe, retired law enforcement. He's logging out and logging back in. I cannot remember. I know it's the southwest part of the country and I'm freaking word busting out the white cloud tonight. I hope you enjoy that TV static. That's what it tastes like to me. Salud, I'm having a little smoke wagging myself. Where was I? What were we just talking about?
Speaker 4:About Daniel's.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Daniel was a cop Was a cop, retired, I believe, out of the southwest portion of the nation. Now he's doing kind of like what we do where you know, just give law enforcement perspective on things and, uh, you know, making an educational thing, rather than, uh, make excuses for cops or make excuses for you know bad guys and all that stuff. He keeps it pretty even keel. So, um, when he gets logged back in here we'll see what he's able to chat with us. It looks like he's moving around.
Speaker 2:Daniel, daniel son all right, it says it's reconnected. Do I still have a delay on your side?
Speaker 1:yeah, you're real choppy wiggling around. Did you go all the way out of the program and come back in?
Speaker 2:no, let me go ahead and do that yeah, sometimes that helps.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, we got plenty of time. Um, I know these people. They're not going anywhere. We're banning buddy. What's up man?
Speaker 4:other than busy, busy at, but good, busy, gotcha.
Speaker 1:This is great.
Speaker 4:This is the highlight of my week is doing this Soldier Americans.
Speaker 1:We were patiently waiting for y'all. Hope y'all had a great Veterans Day. Appreciate it. Yep, happy Veterans Day everybody. For the Marines yesterday was your birthday, I believe it was. Happy birthday to you boys. I was working the last two nights so I had to deal with all the drunk Marines that had way too much on their birthday and we had to find them rides home. Some of their rides home were ambulances versus going to jail.
Speaker 4:If we were here 249 years in the making, we would have a plan B. But get a little bit of alcohol and some of us can't.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, exactly Speaking of you drinking some Tito's tonight.
Speaker 4:No, man, I'm just going light, man, coors Light. I've got an early morning tomorrow, so Fair enough.
Speaker 1:Fair enough. So I did. I started off. I was hoping Daniel could definitely be on for this one, because he actually did a breakdown of it as well. I don't know if you saw it Banning. There is a hot one in the news and everybody was sending me the video of the Asian man, the 70 year old Asian man that got taken down. Did you get a chance to see that one?
Speaker 4:I've been messaged about it as well and for everybody to know. Eric is trying to teach me how to do reactions, because I have zero computer skills and I work for a tech company, but I'm working on it.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is the thing, bannon, I gave you the mics. Right, I gave you that mic. So get those connected to your phone. So get those connected to your phone. You got to get the road app, get that going, but all you need is your phone. So if you just record yourself, you know, set your phone up wherever you got to have your wife hold it. She'll do it. But yeah, we'll get you going on those, send them to me and I'll edit for you. So that'll be the start. Right, that'll be the start. Oh, shout out to Retro Rifle. Today my shirt finally came in. That's nice. 810 Warhawk.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was going to say that's an 810.
Speaker 1:Yeah, can't go wrong with that. I had to, the wife and I. I've been trying to cut back on my Retro Rifle shirts because they're 50 bucks a pop and I was like that like I want an Air Force shirt, I'm in the Air Force, they're gonna have this one, oh man. So got that going on tonight. It's a Van Gogh painting of Starry Night, I think it's called except I don't think they call this one Starry Night anyway.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that video came out. I'm gonna pull that one up. Give me one second here. Um, let's see, let me find the full video. You know who's probably got it? Police activity. Sorry, normally we have these videos queued up. Oh, daniel's back on Daniel Daniel son. Okay, he's smiling. That's a good sign. Hey. Okay, do me a favor, we'll do a little timing test. Hold up the number one, two, three. Okay, that's not too bad. That's a lot better than what it was. So, daniel, give people a little background on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks. My name is Daniel. I'm a retired cop from Albuquerque, New Mexico. I have a law degree and I run Police Law News. I do videos, post on X, I write articles and I just do a bunch of police-related content.
Speaker 1:Nice, I write articles and just do a bunch of police related content. Nice, I did not know you had a law degree, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I finished law school towards the end of my career as an officer. I passed the bar and that'll be the next step.
Speaker 1:Okay, he broke up. Uh-oh, hope we didn't lose you. I heard him glitch out. He's frozen in time. Daniel broke up. Uh-oh, hope we didn't lose you. I heard him glitch out. He's frozen in time, daniel. Daniel.
Speaker 5:Daniel Daniel-san.
Speaker 1:I'm going to call him Daniel-san all night. While that's going on, let me see if I can't find this video real quick.
Speaker 4:I want to go to. He may just need to reset his internet. It might just be something simple, maybe, if he may just need to reset his internet.
Speaker 1:It might just be something simple. Maybe If he's on Wi-Fi, that could be a problem too. He's totally phased out right now. We're going to go to police activity. They have to have that video. I would think Videos, yep, they do Wonderful. Okay, let me go to the chat real quick. See what everybody's saying Banning oh yeah, people are loving the A-10 shirt, baby. Yes, what's up? A-10? Paris, I see 30 rolling down the starry night. Hell yeah, brother, you know what's up. I mean, the audio is good for him and that is the most important part, but he's already. He's back out again. Okay, so we're going to pull this video. Share screen, body cam Share. Okay, biggie size. There we go, let's make sure we are. Oh, that's not what we want. We want the video, not this ad. Fine, on the big screen With Vibe launching your TV ad campaign could not be simpler. Okay, here we go, okay.
Speaker 7:The way that your vehicle was located.
Speaker 1:Shout out to policeactivitycom or policeactivity on YouTube.
Speaker 7:Located, I have to write you a ticket for improper U-turn Whenever you complete a U-turn.
Speaker 8:I didn't do a U-turn.
Speaker 7:Hold on Whenever you complete a U-turn. You're supposed to be as far to that corner as possible, Okay.
Speaker 8:Yes, you have to have another car in front of her. That's why you know I cannot park in behind her.
Speaker 7:Okay, well, you are required to go as far away between you're not supposed to be between any cars. You're supposed to be against that curb line. Okay, I need you to sign with your finger. It's not an omission of guilt. You're signing saying you'll take care of the citation for a ticket. You're promising saying that you'll take care of it at a later date, whether that be in court or if you take care of it outside of court, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I'm going to kind of pause it here. There's not anything really to see or or anything, yet there is a use of force. It does happen. If you haven't seen this one yet, me and the banning have already seen this one. It's been sent to us a bunch of times.
Speaker 1:I made a reaction video but, like most people uh, especially some other cops oh, it's not fair. You're judging them based on 10 seconds of video because that's all I put out there. No, I watched this whole thing and, for those that want to make that argument with me, I typically don't make a reaction video on something unless I've got good cause to. So I cannot put out the full video. I mean I can, but nobody's going to watch it, because nobody's going to sit there and watch this whole six minutes worth of video and I'm limited to what?
Speaker 1:Tiktok, instagram, facebook, linkedin they don't let me put out real long videos. So I have to get my point across and show them the meat and potatoes of the video, basically the best I can. And show the meat and potatoes of the video basically the best I can. But when we do our lives, this is part of being a part of the live audience is. You'll get to hear me break down and elaborate further with guys like Banning and discuss this stuff. So what I want you to pay attention to right now is we are already are you seeing it, banning? I'm already seeing a language barrier.
Speaker 4:Big time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he told him he had made some sort of illegal U-turn or wasn't supposed to do a U-turn or whatever. And he's trying to explain to him that he needs to sign this ticket for it. And this guy's like ticket for what? Like what's going on? What did I do? I didn't U-turn wrong. He said he didn't U-turn. I heard that part. And just for reference, this guy is every bit of 115 pounds and 5'2 or 3" somewhere in there just so you know, but let's keep going.
Speaker 7:So I'm writing and issuing you a citation for improper return. Yes, sir, I'm not writing a ticket for her hitting you, okay. No, she hitting me. You see the. I'm not writing a ticket for her hitting you, okay. No, she hitting me. You see the. I'm not writing a ticket for you see the evidence. No, okay, I don't think that you're understanding what I'm saying here. Okay, I understand.
Speaker 8:I told you she's the.
Speaker 1:And in the cop's credit, I feel like he is being patient, I feel like he's talking to him professionally. So far, I don't have an issue with anything right now.
Speaker 8:Whenever?
Speaker 7:you make a U-turn I didn't make a U-turn. Sorry let me clarify okay, whenever you enter a little intersection thing like that, you are not allowed to go side by side next to a car okay. You have to go behind vehicles. Hey, you are the police. Yes, so you know how many cars we are done, sir. No, we're done arguing about this. Okay, quite good, we are not one, we are not arguing about it.
Speaker 1:All right. Here's the difference in personality types. I guess For me I'd have been laughing Like all right dude, like okay, sir, I see. All right dude, like okay, sir, I see. And it's not laughing at him, it's laughing Just he's an older gentleman, he's it's a respect thing, like for him. You're, I'm not saying okay, I'm speculating and I'm speaking for him. But anytime I deal with elders like I am trying to be even more respectful, especially in this instance, like you've got a lot more years on this planet than I do and I don't want to disrespect that.
Speaker 4:It's just how I was raised and sometimes we've got to give these folks a little extra time. They've been around for a long time. He may not understand and this could be a good educational point to be driven home and not in a disrespectful way, just to educate them so it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I don't. It's not that I don't think this guy understands English. I think he does understand English. I just think that the rules of the road are confusing him more now. So, dang, we got a lot of people logging in, bro. This is crazy. Maybe we should start doing these a little later, let's keep going.
Speaker 8:We argue in court. We argue in court.
Speaker 7:We argue in court, we don't argue on the side of the road. We argue in court, yes, how it works, because if not, if you don't sign this, you go to jail.
Speaker 1:Okay, and this is why I wanted to bring Daniel on. He brought up a point that I um, I've always thought about. I just I've never really had an opportunity to articulate it. And he did. And so, daniel, if you're listening to what we're doing, I'm absolutely 100% stealing your, your thought you put out today, because he said it like the right way. Why are we still signing citations?
Speaker 1:And his articulation of why we signed tickets 20, 30 years ago was because we didn't know who we were dealing with and when we went to court. If we had to go to court, that was one of the ways that we would prove that's who we talked to. Is this your signature? Like that was the evidentiary value of signing a summons, and that's what we talked to. Is this your signature? Like that was the evidentiary value of signing a summons, and that's what they are. They're summons to go to court. So, but in today's day and age, like with technology and everything we have, I don't think that that's necessary. Like I don't, if somebody refuses to sign, I just write refused. How'd you do it, manny?
Speaker 4:It, it's the same way and there's only a couple instances and 20 plus years of doing it to where, um, we had to have an educational talk and you know, and it's that whole shall bring before a magistrate and you know, you're just, it's a promissory to appear. We're not going to have court on the side of the road. I'm going to do the best I can to explain what I observed on why I'm issuing the citation. Or in Texas, you know, texas is one of the states to where, like in this instance, I'm not sure where this is at but we can cite based on doing a crash report or CR3 or through criss crash. We can do that citation if we feel. But they can go argue that all day long in court and they can bring the evidence and and we do our diagram, et cetera.
Speaker 4:I know I'm preaching to the choir on that, but it's you know if somebody is not going to sign yeah it's, it's a refused, unless it's just a a huge deal. But if it's a huge deal, why is it not above a class C or that lower threshold?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly so I, I, I do think it's an antiquated thing that we're doing, and I mean, if that's going to be the case.
Speaker 4:Maybe we should get that changed, either in the policies or in the courts. I don't even it from from. Obviously you know going through the beginning of law enforcement and the police Academy and it's you know, when you're when you're stopped. Now this is an investigation, but when you're when you're stopped and get the red and blues behind you and the officer pulls you over, you were technically your, your movement is arrested.
Speaker 4:I don't want to to scare folks, but you are technically under arrest and either you're going to go to jail to speak to a magistrate about that offense that the peace officer saw or you're going to get a piece of paper with a time and date where you can go explain yourself in court. So you were arrested until you are unarrested in lieu of a court date on that citation. And Eric, you know if anything's changed in the past couple of months. I don't think it has um, but I believe that's the way it is still in texas and in a lot of other states yeah, um, my mother asked does the officer have some sort of electronic device?
Speaker 1:I heard him say earlier the gentleman could sign with his finger. And yeah, a lot of times they have like this little handheld thing, um, and they can sign with their finger right there. My department has those. I just don't think any of my guys have that. We're still old school Use the ticket books and you sign free copies, yeah, so let's keep going here. You can see it's starting to get a little heated, a little more tension, because I think he wants his side heard, but he doesn't know how to articulate his side as well. I think that's what I'm reading.
Speaker 3:I don't want to take you to jail.
Speaker 7:Are you ready to go to jail? Ridiculous. That involves impounding your car too. Okay, you got a ticket also. Yes, your tax expired, yes, so you're good to get out of here, okay, um, there's a report I'll get to you guys in a second.
Speaker 1:Wait there so starting to lose his patience? Yeah, but he's, he's, he's still professional. I get it. This goes into etiquette. Now you see the officers talking to another person. Relax, stay back. There's a little ownage on both sides Talking-wise. But this could be a cultural thing too. We don't know.
Speaker 7:Sorry, this is the ticket Right. There's a date at the bottom that you have to take care of it by, and then below that there's a phone number, website address. One of the three will tell you how and where to take care of it, okay. And then there is a case number right there. How's everyone's person vehicle insurance information on it? Okay, okay.
Speaker 10:So now I guess I just get my insurance to go after it. Take care of it.
Speaker 7:Yeah, just call the insurance company and get this over. Okay, thank you sir.
Speaker 1:Wonderful thing. Okay, spacebrog space I have. Just this is my first class, I swear. Spacebrog said it doesn't involve impounding the car if the lady is a licensed driver. I don't think anybody's impounding a car. Have they talked about impounding a car?
Speaker 4:Not that I recall.
Speaker 1:I don't recall that part. If you go to jail then we may impound it. I would say it looks like he's parked in a private lot, in a parking space, so I may go to the owner and say like, hey, this car is going to be parked here, just so you know, because I can't tow from there unless the dealer or dealership, unless the private owner says this car's got to go.
Speaker 7:Go ahead. Can you roll me another unit? I got this guy up here and a supervisor. He's in the same team. He's wanting to go to jail.
Speaker 1:It doesn't look like he necessarily wants to go to jail. I think he wants to show him what he's talking about and he keeps walking towards the road. He's not walking to the car. What do you think?
Speaker 4:I do. I think he wants to be heard and why not give him a little bit of time? You're on this call until you're off the call. You're not waiting for a hot call right now. More than likely this guy's attached to a traffic or accident, or maybe that beat. Beat officer.
Speaker 4:But this is a problem, this beat, he's got to take care of it. So why not extend a little courtesy, go out there and hear him out and then explain to him again. We're not determining who's at fault, we're doing the citation based on what we see, and you will definitely have your day in court, and that would be my argument, to kind of escalate the situation.
Speaker 1:Dre G said he just walked away without saying anything to them, which, yes, and that lady followed behind. I do understand what you're saying. He didn't say he was going to go talk to that other lady. So, yes, that is kind of rude to do Fair statement. And then he said he did say he would impound after the mail said he was ready to go to jail. So yeah, typically after somebody is arrested, unless you're going to release the vehicle to her which maybe this is what Space Frog was getting to if she's a licensed driver, she can take that vehicle. This is what space frog was getting to. Um, if she's a licensed driver, she can take that vehicle, um, assuming that car is legal, has insurance, has, you know, uh, updated registration, all that stuff, and she's got a valid license. So those are all factors to releasing a vehicle to somebody. Um, may or may not have released cars just to people with IDs. So we didn't have to tow a vehicle like case by case basis by case basis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Some people you just can tell like if we tow the car now, they're never going to be able to get that car back out of the impound because they just don't have the money for it. So you know, modern times call for modern solutions, I agree a hundred percent yeah.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you gotta%, sometimes you got to violate some policies to make right by the citizens. I'm going to read through the comments here. Oh, and I do notice this is the city of Oklahoma City. That's a weird title, the city of Oklahoma City. Allow myself to introduce myself. That's what that sounds like.
Speaker 1:Soldier American said I agree, I just can't take the 70-year-old plus man or woman to jail over a traffic citation. My supervisor would have an egg if I did this with what I've seen so far. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and he's doing the right thing. I'm still going to give this officer credit for now, because I just heard him say start me a supervisor. I got a guy that wants to go to jail, so I think he recognizes he's losing his patience with this guy. Um board said jail's full for class c's full. See, it's wonderful. Comparison and respect on the squad Opics look like shit. Yep, yep. See. This is what I love about doing this, guys. I like when you guys participate in the chat. Throw stuff at us. I'll read them out.
Speaker 1:Man, it's a simple call. This is from Dre G. It's a simple call, but he should have called for a 63. For those that don't know, 63 is for an assist officer. From the onset. Things go from zero to 100 in the blink of an eye. A call is a simple one until it isn't Very true.
Speaker 1:Kelly Renee said hey, hey, y'all. Glad you were running a bit late tonight. So was I Fair? Apologize Again. I'm so sorry I did not anticipate. It's eight minutes a quarter. I'm like I do the math in my head and wasn't thinking. Timeouts, injuries, you know all that stuff and uh, the timing would have worked out if I was a smart man, but I'm not. So. Greg said less paperwork, unload vehicle to the other driver. Yeah, absolutely, I'm trying to do less out in this world. Did my camera just move? It did I kicked the cord, I'm sorry, anyway. So Did you bring that pig into your studio? No, I don't think anybody knows what you're talking about. I had a fucking pig show up to my house Legitimately, a real huge, pot-bellied pig. Somebody said it was a Vietnamese pig. I don't know. I don't know my pigs. He was super friendly and then I found out it was my neighbor's a few houses down, got to meet him and bring his pig back to him. It was interesting. Let's keep going here.
Speaker 7:Hi husband, we stay here waiting for go to here we not U-turn. Okay, it doesn't matter about a U-turn or whatever that lane you can't-.
Speaker 4:I heard she hit us.
Speaker 7:I understand that, but you're not. You see where that car's at Whenever you enter that area. That's what you're supposed to do. You're not supposed to pull, leave any space at all.
Speaker 8:You're not supposed to leave any space at all.
Speaker 7:You see that too, huh yeah that's what you're supposed to do. The way your vehicle was located, your vehicle was not like that Sit down no.
Speaker 1:So if you didn't catch that, that's where this man hits the officer that thud noise. I'm going to bring it back just slightly, but I can see where this is my third time, I think, watching the full thing and now I finally understand why the old man was upset. He was trying to explain and the cop kept talking over him. It's a miscommunication. I'm not saying the cop absolutely has a right to talk as well, but this is where this all fell. Apart was the communication side of things. So I'm going to go back just a little bit so you can hear the older man trying to get his point across.
Speaker 8:You're not supposed to leave any space at all. Yeah that's what you're supposed to do the way your vehicle was located your vehicle was not like that Boom right there.
Speaker 7:No, you shut up.
Speaker 5:Get on the ground no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, I need the ambulance, I need the ambulance.
Speaker 7:I need the ambulance. I can't tell. Please call an ambulance. Look what he said 112-500, roll me fire and incidental supervisor.
Speaker 3:I can't hear you.
Speaker 1:Sir, I'm not scared.
Speaker 8:We stay here waiting for go to here. We not U-turn.
Speaker 7:Okay, it doesn't matter about a U-turn or whatever that lane, you can't.
Speaker 4:And I heard she hit us.
Speaker 7:I understand that, but you're not. You see where that car is at Whenever you enter that area. That's what you're supposed to do. You're not supposed to pull, leave any space at all. You're not supposed to pull, leave any space at all. Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1:I am the way where your vehicle was located. Your vehicle is not like that. Damn, that makes me uncomfortable, damn, like hey, I'm talking, quit talking over me. He's trying to tell him shut up. I'm fucking talking.
Speaker 4:All right, just the reaction, the fast reaction of that I've got major issues with, I mean yeah, yeah, it really, really bothers me.
Speaker 1:Yep, I'm with you on that. Let me close this out here. So my problem is when it comes? Okay, so we'll go to the educational side of this.
Speaker 1:First, use of force is based on objective reasonableness, like it has to be reasonable, and I said this in my reaction video but I didn't get a chance to clarify just due to time constraints. But there's no black and white about using force. So because and what I was trying to get to is, yes, this guy touched the officer, he struck him Just because somebody touches you doesn't give you carte blanche to just use force, even though your use of force metrics may say somebody, somebody touches you, you can, you can put them down on the ground, you know, or whatever, use, um, some sort of control, physical control, on somebody else. So that's that's what I was trying to get to on. That is that, yes, this guy touched the cop. He shouldn't have done that. But, given the totality of everything we've seen so far, he's 115 pounds, he's 70-plus years old, he's not in any shape or form an immediate threat to you and he's also he didn't continue anything. He tapped you and then went like this like stop talking, stop talking. It wasn't like tap you and then grab you and then do any of that.
Speaker 1:So for me, yes, he touched you. That's wrong. You should never touch a cop. But reasonably, that was not reasonable to me in the way that I've been trained, and it doesn't mean I'm right. But, bannon, you tell me if you were trained the same way. If, in this instance, my first thing I'm going to do is use words hey, don't. You can't do that, you know again, because the threat's not not continuing, he's not like coming at me. So I've got time. I can back him up, I can check him, I can say, hey, don't do that. Or grab a hold of him, affect the arrest. All right, now you're going to jail.
Speaker 4:Put your hands behind your back yeah, to me I'm probably gonna get a lot of haters on this and I don't care, but that guy should be the meeting. The officer should be in jail right now asking for bail or trying to figure out bail, and that's just me. That, to me, right there, makes all of active law enforcement just look like complete trash and it just it spreads that bad message. And I don't know if it was training, I don't know if the officer has something going on personally, but if I was that officer's supervisor right there, first of all, you're off the street. I'm calling up the chain of command. We're getting internal affairs review, the this is. But that's a big deal to me if you can't conduct yourself on a traffic stop and an elderly gentleman gets you that wired up. Bro, yeah, you're about to get off the street and you're gonna be looking at criminal charges and that's just you know and it's a protected class Elderly are protected class.
Speaker 1:65 years and older is considered elderly, at least in my state of Texas. To me it's just not a reasonable response to what just occurred. That doesn't mean that you cannot do that to even this man. You can take him down. That is an option, just not yet. I don't think you had it yet. I told people I think he should have pulled away and then you would have something. And somebody argued he did pull away. No, he was going like trying to get his point across, and if he can't, take that, retire, go to Walmart, welcome to Walmart, whatever Right.
Speaker 4:Or put him in the back stocking room. As far as I care, I'm not going to have somebody like that on my team, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and if I was doing the same thing to Banning? If we're right here and Banning slaps my chest, different story. If we're right here and banning slaps my chest, holy shit. Well, not only is it a different story, but my reaction is going to be significantly different. I'm backing way the fuck up getting the taser out, because I'm not going hands-on with that bear. So to me, yes, a takedown is the lowest form of use of force that we have other than verbal commands. It's pretty much the basic.
Speaker 4:So if I just look at my blood pressure right now. Watching that fool, yeah, got me a little pissed off.
Speaker 1:So if I were to grab you and then you pull away, well now a takedown would be just and I really pull away. You know, do the little avoidance thing that he did, like I don't believe this officer even got a hold of him. Had he got a hold of him and tried to arrest him, I think this guy would have just done it. I don't, or you could have made him. I don't see him even being able to stop you putting his hands behind his back. So for me, no, this is this was horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. And I all I think is like what, if think is like what if that was my grandpa? Like if that was my grandpa, there would be nothing that stops me from finding that officer. There would be nothing.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking at the comments, just seeing what everybody's saying. Soldier American said Banning your right, ozark Moon, how's it going, girl? Appreciate you being here. She says. I've seen clips of bigger people do more to cops, only to be met with a stiff arm to back them up. This was overkill on this officer's part. I agree, and I am not a big Monday morning quarterback person, but, like I said, I've seen the entirety of this video. I've seen the entirety of the body cam. Now you guys have too. Um. So for me, like when I say the juice, the juice worth the squeeze, we had a traffic citation, it was an accident and I don't see ambulances, I don't see anybody hurt.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and not that that's going to change that, but, like what you just said about five minutes ago, totality of the circumstances and that's what we do as law enforcement out there is what force is justified and we're going to use that minimum force that's needed. If you're a decent cop and I've got to say that because right now I'm not seeing decency and this dude may be an awesome cop, but today is definitely not his day and I'll be, you know. I hope to God. I never see him in uniform again. Again my opinion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, steve Wallace in the house. He goes. Eric, that shirt is fire. Which shirt is that? That is my retro rifle A-10 Warthog shirt. Sir, let me I'll give another little demo right there. Yeah, baby, yep, if you hear that sound, it's too late for you. Yes, but yeah, so it is.
Speaker 1:Too many people say cops don't hold cops accountable, like that's part of the problem with policing. Well, on this show, we absolutely have no problem doing that. That's why I said I hate Monday morning quarterbacking when I know there's not enough information. However, comma, I believe there's enough information here. I believe I can make a sound judgment.
Speaker 1:Now there may be something that comes out that this guy was a fucking I don't know crime syndicate boss that's killed 700 people. They just could never grab him. And then finally they get him here and he's like well, I'll allow you a traffic accident, but if you want my honest opinion, I'll give you my honest opinion on what happened here. He got frustrated, there was a language barrier, and I believe this is speculation, huge speculation. But I've seen this before where there's people that have this personal line in the sand or there's kind of a cultural line in the sand. No one touches a cop for free and instinct takes over the moment they're touched, because nobody gets to touch a cop for free. This guy touched him and his instinct took over because maybe that was a culture of the training where they're at. I'm not blaming it on training, but might be.
Speaker 4:Might be it could very well be training and then, as you know, looking at it as internal affairs, we're going to go into that jacket, find out where the training is, and I'm you look at totality of circumstances, right, how are we going to do this investigation? We're going to have this officer. Let's find out where the mess up is. We don't have anybody else in the squad doing something as ridiculously stupid as this guy. Yeah, and the city's going to write a check on that. Oh for sure, I mean it's, it's going to be a huge check and it needs to be that that gentleman, because of the uh, the lack of communication and everything, he I'm sorry, I'm not a judge nor jury, but it's it's going to come down on hell on that department and it should be. Yeah, we've got to make sure our guys are in check before we put them out there in a car with a freaking gun out there to protect the public yeah, I'm laughing at ozark moon.
Speaker 1:She said probably not what van gogh had in mind when he did that painting, probably not, but it's pretty badass right.
Speaker 1:Maybe his ear got cut by a 10, who knows? Uh, kathleen richards said you are simply amazing. Oh, I am not amazing, ma'am, I promise you on that. Kelly renee said bang on banning. Uh, this seems so overly aggressive and can you imagine if he was dealing with something slightly confrontational? Go home. Yeah, I again on this one I am for anybody that's looking like.
Speaker 1:Look at people like Detective Matt Thornton. Look at Police Law News Daniel, who we had on here very briefly. He was having technical difficulties. He actually texted me and said hey, when I finally got logged back out, my power went out. I said I know the feeling Just happened to us the other day. But there's officers that will gladly call out other cops. They happens all the time. They just don't do it publicly and I think that's what I think that's kind of. The next evolution of policing is having cops have the balls to step up and call out right is right, wrong is wrong and have a discussion, and I'll fully eat my words and backtrack If I was wrong, if more information comes out that we weren't a privy to. Sure.
Speaker 4:But let's, let's look at this in big picture. Let's say the backup officer's on scene, another equal when I say equal I mean a ranking officer, just with no supervision stuff and he's on scene and that officer were to witness this and he saw everything building up to it. That officer should have, physically, if needed, intervene, in my opinion, to stop the action, because that was not warranted, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Again, it's an opinion on the facts that we see, just like in the boiling water thing that you and I talked about, oh man, where that other officer fucked up, the signs and symptoms were right there before the catastrophic incident of you needed to get between him and her. Like you needed to let him. Hey, partner, I appreciate it, like ma'am, sorry about that. We got to go. That was your moment. He didn't have a lot of time. I'll give him that he didn't have a lot of time. I'll give him that he didn't have a lot of time to make that decision. But his failure to execute that poor words I know ended up that lady losing her life because of his nut job partner, which had been fired from like six different departments.
Speaker 1:So this is not an echo chamber. So anybody that is like I'm pro law enforcement, so are we? I'm pro law enforcement too, absolutely. But shit work's going to get called out. And if I call out shit work just for the purposes of improving training, so be it. But if I call it shit work because you just dehumanized and fucked up an old man for zero reason, like zero reason to me, like again, I'm not on scene, I wasn't there, I can't speak for him.
Speaker 4:No, you know I don't know if I was the, if I was the da, but in general population, just be done with it quick. You're not getting to walk through.
Speaker 1:It's going straight in son. Yeah, so appreciate everybody on this one. I got a lot of people that sent me this video, so now you've got our full articulation. You got the full video. Those that were on LinkedIn, some other places, bitching that oh, you're judging an officer based on 10 seconds there the fuck you go, shut up. I'm not going to placate because you're too afraid to call out bullshit when you see bullshit, just because he's a cop.
Speaker 4:We also call out the kudos when we see it there's a hell of a lot more better cops in the frigging country that we live in. I mean there's some bad and that's why you never get to hear about it, Cause they're just doing their frigging job out there, going home every day to their family, and you don't get to see those stories. I mean, I've had countless officers in the past 20 years reach into their frigging wallet not the department card, filling up people cause they needed filled up, not turning their receipt, not trying to get paid back. They're just out there being humanistic. They're out there doing what they would want done to their family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, alan Cormier, maybe Sorry, just joining so I may have missed the video. Juice worth the squeeze mindset Isn't that dangerous to use as a reference point for using force, since it is dependent on personal view. It depends, alan. I do think that. Let me articulate a little, or clarify, if I will, about what I mean. Is the juice worth the squeeze? What I meant on the totality of the circumstances was, at the end of the day, we had an accident. There was no criminal offense that we were dealing with. We're dealing with an accident and a ticket. Okay, that's civil, like go to court, figure it out.
Speaker 1:So when I say is the juice worth the squeeze, I'm talking like am I going after a homicide suspect? Am I going after a violent felon? Am I going after something that could justify me using force versus do I really want to go hands-on? Do I have the ability to walk away and just kind of ignore what happened? Um, because I don't need to do anything else. So that's what I'm talking about when I say is the juice worth the squeeze? I don't mean can I get away with hurting this person? Can I get away with hitting this person? That's not what I meant. So if that came across that way, let's add on there.
Speaker 4:Let's add on to this. So let's look at the actual offense that the officer went through. Okay, and we'll just use Texas law. Yeah, the guy tapped him in the shoulder on his vest, simple assault.
Speaker 4:Okay, simple assault. Okay, let's. Let's ask that officer questions. Did you feel pain? Yeah, were you just annoyed by it? Were you on a power trip up here? And he annoyed you? Because he's not one to listen to you. He's trying to tell you his point, that's so. Let's look at the law of it, I mean the actual law. Do you, do you have something to hook up on on that?
Speaker 1:yeah, to me, totality of circumstances, age, the officer's youthfulness come on, man size weight advantage, all of it, all of. I mean dude, it's just alan said uh got you. Um, yeah, you meant in this specific situation yes, yes and.
Speaker 1:But that is a mindset that cops need to to in their mind. Now, again, I'm using my 18 plus years of experience, banning's 20 plus years, and we're going off of that and I can tell you right now, younger me early officer me, you know, was ready to go all the time. And younger, older me has learned like is the juice worth the squeeze? Like, am I going to go through a bunch of work to have the fun or am I going to relax and wait for the bigger fish and stuff like that? So my officers, right now they're going through it. They're learning that pursuits aren't worth it, Because even when you're right, sometimes you get dinged and it ain't right, it's not just the bad guy and the cop coming down that roadway.
Speaker 4:I don't know the details, but I'm just telling you from my experience. It's not just you and the bad guy coming down that roadway. We've got families out there too.
Speaker 1:You've got to think about that. Well, auntie, I love you too. So that is, that's the juice worth the squeeze. That is taking experience, stepping back from being wrapped up, because anytime I catch myself getting frustrated I was just frustrated the other night Guy just wouldn't listen to me and wouldn't stop John and I was starting to lose my patience. And so finally, I said I recognized it in myself. I said hold on a second, stay here, deal with him, because you know I'm the supervisor. Nobody's going to come up to me and say I got it, sarge, I got it. Nobody's going to do that to their sergeant most of the time. So I had to recognize it within myself, like I'm getting frustrated because he was drunk. He wasn't, he just wasn't there. Let me try somebody else. So I think I actually had a female officer come over, handle it, perfect. I was like thank you. So, but yeah, I was starting to lose, lose my patience to the point where I was like considering it's like this guy's going to jail drunk PI public intoxication Cause he is not getting the clue, and just had to step back, let her handle it. And we worked it out, we managed to to get it squashed.
Speaker 1:So Greg said PD is going to have a big payday on this one. Yup, yes, they are, and not in the form of bonuses. Uh, he would also be going to anger management classes. Um, yeah, if he makes it, if he makes it to that level, that's for sure. Uh, yeah, man, you guys had a lot to say on this one. I like it. There's a lot of people chiming in. Um, dray g had said that three-prong test wasn't applied very well in this case.
Speaker 1:Univision Tech 1, he messed up. I'm sure he knew too as soon as the guy hit the ground. Yeah, I bet you're right, because I can't tell if it knocked him out or not. I don't know, but I do know, or I shouldn't say I know for certain but I've been told that it broke his neck, facial fractures and I saw, like some after, pictures of him in the hospital, just you know, wrecked so. And then I did hear that he may be paralyzed. So I'm going to make it 70 years old only to be paralyzed by the cops. Fucked up, all right, okay, we're going to pause. Let's go to share the screen. We'll watch a new video here. Am I sharing? No, I'm not. No, I am not here. We go Now we got it.
Speaker 4:Looks like T-Word's going to bed.
Speaker 1:Appreciate you hanging out, man yeah, I know a lot of people might go to bed a little earlier than normal because we're on later than normal. Uh, apologize that. Um brandon sterling said younger me hip, toss him, drop a banger, walk away. Oh, um, space frog said in the description he was unconscious. In the description he was unconscious. Oh, in the YouTube description Okay, yeah, that would make sense. You could hear his wife, or whoever she was, daughter saying call an ambulance. So that's probably why she probably saw him out. Okay, we don't know what this video is, so let's see. We don't know what this video is so.
Speaker 11:Let's see.
Speaker 1:Okay, so right away we're in a pursuit at night. First thing I'm going to be doing direction of travel, description of the vehicle and calling out traffic. It looks dead. This looks like how, when banning is, Watch out for deer.
Speaker 6:I was going to say I shine. I would be concerned about I shine if he got the time we're coming up the Shaw Drive.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll direct you to travel 11.
Speaker 11:Get on your top gear.
Speaker 1:I like the power and distance too. He's got what I mean. It's hard to tell in a dash cam, but it looks like he's got a decent reactionary gap. I probably would have hung back just a little farther, because it looks like we're three lines apart, Yep.
Speaker 4:I can see why it's close if you look at the title of the video.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't Grappler. Oh yeah, buddy, I understand why it's getting close.
Speaker 11:Vehicle's smoking pretty bad. Vehicle's smoking badly.
Speaker 4:Stand 14 for one. I can tell I stayed smoking badly Mustard.
Speaker 11:Mustard and GT. I'm watching other people Just passed the vehicle.
Speaker 1:no passing zone in the corner Just passing one no passing zone. I'm watching other people react to you coming out. I'm still watching.
Speaker 11:I can see the moment they realize.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be pawed out. Yeah, he's driving me to the next one. They're off at a toll. I think the grappler went out the grappler goes out.
Speaker 4:I think about 8 to 10 feet from the front of the patrol car it's going to be for that driver's side wheel.
Speaker 8:Do it, do it that was not a good hookup on the ground.
Speaker 1:I always wondered how those went at their real speed.
Speaker 4:That was not a good hookup on the Grappler no. No, so what that Grappler is designed to do so. Everybody knows and I might be preaching to the choir watching that Grappler is designed to get tangled up in that back wheel and then tethers to that car and basically it's going to lock up that wheel and depending on the posi track or what type of rear end is in that car, it may lock up that wheel and depending on the posi track or what, type of rear ends in that car.
Speaker 4:It may lock up both, but that car could bring it to a controlled stop as opposed to just what happened. So it didn't get a full two revolutions, or whatever it takes on that wheel.
Speaker 1:Oh, that grappler deployment which caused this I'm clear now and it was bad timing. It looked like his partner that was there to help him was coming the other way and he pulled way off the side of the road. Sterling said that did not go right.
Speaker 5:I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I don't have them. I've only seen them on demo videos and of course, they work perfect on a demo video, sure. Get your hands up Either way. Let's pray, Get your hands up. Now he's gone, You're going to get back Either way he's gone, he's running, he's running.
Speaker 9:Now he's giving up right there.
Speaker 11:You may still get hit bro.
Speaker 9:Yeah, he thought about that.
Speaker 1:I want to go back. Let's go back to the grapple. I want to see that one more time. That was pretty cool. I'll be with them. What's that? Yeah, that's great, I'm here. That's what. You're off, I'm here, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8:Three Thank you. I want that. No grapple Nope, got a grapple.
Speaker 9:Got a grapple, got a grapple.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're not going to like that. They're not going to like that.
Speaker 9:Get your hands up, Get your hands up now You're going to get bit. He's running he's running. Get up, let me see your fucking head.
Speaker 1:That's greatness, that's greatness, that canine officer is like bam oh shit, that was funny, that stopped him in his track stop he's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, those that think canine don't work they. Oh man, let's see what they said in the comments. They cut the video right there. I bet they put the dog on them anyway. It I I? It sounded like they did. It sounded like they was about to let that dog on them. Uh, which is something I I I've had a few videos now that I I actually I think that was my first response reaction video where I disagreed with cops and you know I started getting a bunch of shit like, oh, you weren't there.
Speaker 1:You know, like that's how it kind of started for me. Um, because I've been, it's not that I did everything pro-cop um, it was more, more or less, that I was trying to um call out like one that I just thought was bad. And you might remember the video. I mean it was they're on the freeway, like in the, in the inner, not the intersection, what do you call that? The median, they're in the median and the guy's like giving up, like he's done, I think. And you hear another officer like don't let that dog go, don't let that dog go, and let that dog go. And they just let it go anyway because the guy was giving up. I'm like why the fuck are we letting this dog?
Speaker 4:go. So, in reference to that and going through all the training I did in canine, so you have, you have liability on the department, that's. That's one, just like all the the bat tools on your belt, yeah, and you have vicarious liability on that officer. So so I, when I was taught, going through training, if I were to deploy my dog to engage somebody when they have obviously given up for every second that that dog bite is on the arm or other appendage, you're looking at about 10 grand out of your own pocket as opposed to what's going to come out of it. Obviously, they're going to go after deeper pockets, first the department, but they're going to come after you. They're going to come after your retirement, and for rightly so. If you're going to deploy that dog, which is a tool of law enforcement, it's been trained and hopefully truthfully trained, the way it should be.
Speaker 4:You don't release that dog unless you have a reason to do so. Now, if he's reaching for a gun something else, and I love dogs, just like you do um, but we have to look at can we, can we stop the threat and stop somebody from getting shot from it? Great, yeah, and also the dog. But that's what people understand is when these people release the dog, meaning that police officer that's been trained, all that is running through his head and he knows when he's releasing that dog what the outcome could likely be. So that's why it's training, training, training. Usually it's once to twice a week that these guys with the dogs are training and they have these big logs that shows how much training that they're doing when these type of cases come up. So it's a big liability when you release that dog. It's a big liability on the city. It's a big liability on the city. It's a big liability on that officer. So people don't just typically ah go get him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a big deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on a surrendering person Like I'm just like what the fuck are you doing? Like why are you letting that dog go? And it's fine for that dog to gesture to bark.
Speaker 4:I mean, that's what they're for and that's another deterrent, but just don't let the dog go, don't let that dog grab onto somebody.
Speaker 1:yeah, um good, oh, I was gonna say there was a couple questions about the grappler and I didn't want to miss them. Um, they were asking uh, did the grappler pull the tire off the rim or was it too fast for the grappler?
Speaker 4:I just from what I saw, just watching that twice, I don't think it got the full two or three revolutions for that tether to properly deploy. Like I said, that tether properly deploys that police car, be it Crown Vic, explorer, tahoe, whatever it is. They can bring that car to a stop because they're stopping that Ford movement. They can bring it to a slow stop. How it's designed, I think it got away from it. It didn't lock Nothing from the officer or the person.
Speaker 1:It may have been a foul line on that. It could have been a myriad of things. Brandon said Threat of the release of the fur missile causes 62% of suspects to stand down from fleeing. 60% of the time it works Every time. What did I see? David Edmondson said I was worried about break fade. Thank you for bringing up break fade again, because these motherfuckers like I'm still getting comments from people like that's bullshit. I'm like I've got so many people on here backing up and I've showed you videos of break fade demonstrations done by like pro racers like how much more do you need? They're either trolling just to troll or. Space Frog said I like the ones where the officers start barking. I've looked at it at work. I didn't do it myself. Every time I've tried it myself there was nobody in the building.
Speaker 4:I've actually had a foot pursuit on a home invasion and me getting on that PA going. That dude stopped. I'm like oh shit, but the PA down, get out affected the arrest. He's like where's your dog? And I'm like I don't have a dog, you want to jail. He started freaking out Cause I started putting him back in my car and he thought the dog was right there. And I was like dude. I've been out of canine for two years. I don't have a dog.
Speaker 1:That's funny. Thanks for stopping. Oh shit, yeah, that's fun. I have tried several times, but I've seen a few videos where it works and I've watched other officers successfully get it to work. You know, they're barking outside of a building that somebody's broken into and all of a sudden you'll be like come out, or we'll let the dog go and I don't even hear him bark and I'll look at my buddy I think that was a pretty good bark, he sounded pretty legit and then all of a sudden be quiet for a second and you're like we're gonna let him. You know, police, we're gonna let the dog loose last chance. And you're like all right, all right, I'm coming out. Yeah, you're right, you right, you are.
Speaker 1:Oh, will Cray said you got to say what dog? What do you mean? What type of dog? All right, let's go to the next video here. Let's turn that on. Share this tab instead. Again, shout out to Police Activity YouTube page. We basically use them exclusively anymore. I understand, I wish to proceed. Okay, biggie size, let's make sure we are in high def. Yep, good, I got no sound 911,.
Speaker 5:What is your emergency?
Speaker 3:We've got a domestic dispute going on over here off of Parker Road in Cascade just before you get to Sloan. Canyon here on the left.
Speaker 5:Okay, do we have an address? It's happening at or.
Speaker 3:No, I'm in the condos over here at Sloan Canyon and just below me on Sloan Canyon, oh, somebody just shot a .38. I think someone needs to get over here to the SAP.
Speaker 5:Okay, stay on the line for me.
Speaker 1:This guy sounds like a cop.
Speaker 3:ASAP, and so obviously we are talking about a weapon being involved.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I do have the deputy, and did you get a clothing description? Sorry, I was listening to my radio also On the mail.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a smaller department. There's another gunshot.
Speaker 3:Looks like he's got a black T-shirt on and it looks like she's done. He just shot again. Looks like he's got a black t-shirt on and it looks like she's done. He just shot again. Looks like she's done.
Speaker 9:Oh shit, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, okay. Okay, I was just about to say I know a gun's involved, yeah, so for me I'm responding just like this Gun out, and this is one. You can't necessarily wait for anybody.
Speaker 4:Or you might even be dialing in an AR, depending on the situation. I mean, you're looking at a little bit of distance, Do you have? I haven't seen this one yet. I don't think I've seen this one.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen this one yet. I don't think I've seen this one. But yeah, this one's going to have, if I know for a fact, because I'm hoping my call taker and my dispatcher looks like in this case they're the same person. Smaller departments tends to be that way, but I'm hoping that my dispatcher emphasizes like we heard shots the phone, letting them know this isn't just somebody guessing, it's not fireworks, this is legit. So gun out ready to go. I am preparing for a gunfight in something like this 10-4-3,.
Speaker 8:Give me the patch.
Speaker 9:Oh shit, I think he hit him he saw something 9-9-8, Sloan Canyon Road.
Speaker 8:Give me the patch.
Speaker 9:I think I gave him the patch.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this is the dangerous part. I'm sorry for pausing it on a. That's a gun right there on the floor. Look at your feet. Yeah, you can see right by her feet. Um, so let me, uh, there we go. That's still not any better, is it? That's somewhat better. Uh, I just didn't want to chill in on a guy that's probably DOA For me, this is still very much a volatile situation Got the gun there Even though her life was probably in danger. The moment he got shot by the cops, she becomes a threat. She's still very much a threat until you figure out what the hell's going on. What I liked that this officer did Bannon and you back me up is I don't feel like he really wasted any time with that radio. I feel like he was going to. He tried to do what he could and then he just handled business.
Speaker 4:We've got to get back to work. We got to get back to work. I mean, we're going to communicate when we can, and that's what Eric's saying right now is this is our scene. We're the only ones there. We've got to make sure that people need to go home, are going to go home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't jump on the radio. Shots fired. Shots fired Unit 677, shots fired 77 shots fired. That drives me up the fucking wall. You still have an active scene. It is not secure. Handle business. They know where you're at, they know they're coming. Handle business. That's what this guy is doing right here For me. Cuff him up. Get her either away from the weapon Make sure there's nobody else in the car, get her away from the weapon, check her, make sure she's not armed herself or cuff her.
Speaker 1:In this instance, I don't have a problem with you cuffing her. Hey, ma'am, I don't know what's going on. I'm going to put you in cuffs right now for scene security and we'll get you out of these as soon as we're done. You're saying all that while you're cuffing them because you you more than likely know she's your victim. But, like I said, when you just shoot and kill their boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, whatever it is like, this is uh, it's dangerous. So very um, ocean girl, she's like I just I can't believe. I just got on here. I'm going through the comments. Ozark said yes, she might just pick up the gun. For some reason, the victim gets mad when anything happens to their attacker.
Speaker 4:And when I believe what that person means is, anytime it's a family violence or domestic, there's so much psychological things that are going on there and we can sit there and probably do an entire show on what's going on. Mentality wise on her. Yeah, I don't think this is the time to do it, but we'll break off some time and definitely do that for you?
Speaker 1:yeah, I, actually we. I did a interview with two domestic violence survivors um a while back and, uh, it was. I mean, you want to talk about an eye opening episode? Get your tissues ready, because even me was choked up during that one. Um, but it was. It was really good insight to see people that you know have that exactly that mentality.
Speaker 4:They love that person and you know, at least they think they do so I'm trying to see what they're blurring out, so I can see the blur on her face. Is there a child or somebody sitting in that passenger seat?
Speaker 1:yeah, it does look like there's somebody else in there, doesn't it? Um, yeah, I'm not sure it may be what the first shots were, when they said because remember him saying, yeah, she's done whatever. Maybe she showed up afterwards, I don't know. Um, I mean, the back seat is open, maybe she was in the back seat. Uh, pravis, take it easy, brother, appreciate you being on. Uh, he said all right, I'm fading fast tonight not to catch up on the replay. You, big sissy. All right, uh, I'm just gonna play it a little bit farther. That is a tactical style fanny pack, by the way, which leads me to believe there's a hint of some sort of military first responder here.
Speaker 8:So I figure it's nine, nine minutes. One canyon road, Parker road. Let me get units code.
Speaker 1:Doesn't mean I'm right.
Speaker 4:That's a clue towards signs reporting that way that are deranged an individual that likes to go to the rv surplus store I'm gonna read through the the thing santa clarita, santa clarita station.
Speaker 1:The male was later identified as 43 year old raul martinez um. Upon arriving scene, deputy observed martinez and a female adult standing in the parking vehicle, identified as 43-year-old Raul Martinez. Upon arriving at the scene, deputy observed Martinez and a female adult standing near the parking vehicle. Drivers started over Martinez and the female appeared to be involved in a physical altercation. As the deputy exited his patrol vehicle. Martinez produced a firearm. The deputy involved. Shooting occurred. Martinez sustained a single gunshot wound to the upper body. I'm going to say that probably was a headshot, because he dropped right there. Deputies were under first aid, transported to the hospital where he was treated for wait. Martinez was subsequently transported to a local hospital where he was treated for non-life-threatening injuries. Wow, that was a pretty thick pool of blood too, Bro. I thought he was dead.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I did too.
Speaker 1:And just knocked him out. He didn't move. No, he, the female, along with the male juvenile who was seated in the vehicle at the time of the incident, were not injured. No deputies early. Okay good, nobody else was hurt. A loaded semi-automatic 9mm handgun and a loaded .22 caliber revolver were recovered at the scene, not a .38.
Speaker 4:Thank you for putting that in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for the guy that was on the phone trying to be Mr Smarty Pants .38, definitely .38. He currently stands charged with half a dozen felony charges, as well as special allegations related to the charges he used a gun in the commission of an alleged crime. Martinez is being held at Twin Towers Correctional Facility in downtown Los Angeles. That is not a good name for a prison With $275,000 bail. I just want to go out there and say that I got a $250,000 bail on a guy one time for a home invasion and he didn't use a gun at all. Will Cray said the bullet just stunned him. Concrete knocked him out. That's possible too. That's a fair take. All right, let's go on to the next hey and hold on. Sorry, guys, you know how I do this. Stop sharing. I like
Speaker 1:doing this. I know the videos are your guys' favorite part, but my favorite part is looking at you all and and going to the audience and be like hey, what else do you guys have? Is there anything that you want to see you want to see us talk about? Before I just start pulling up more random shit? Um, something that I would like to pause in and do is one I want to thank one of my sponsors um ghost patch. They make this metal badge for us, so I have gotten more requests. God, you can't even focus on that thing. Can you get up there? Nope, the camera's not gonna do it. I have gotten more requests for this damn badge.
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Speaker 1:It's not just yeah, it's not just a fake and it's not a cheap at like. This is better made than the badge I wear. So, um, that's what made me pretty pumped about it, and this is why. This is why you guys are going to go with ghost patch. When you get your stuff made, you're going to tell them that two cops one donut sent you. You're going to do all that fun stuff. But the reason you guys are going to start going to them specifically and here's why they got into the metal badge game because they were tired of cops getting ripped off by these companies that were triple and quadrupling the prices for these things. So they made it the price that departments could afford and it's ran by police, police, so it's a cop that owns it. So that's why you should go with Ghostbatch.
Speaker 1:But we will be added to their website. It's coming, we think, in December. We're trying to beat the Christmas rush, if you will. So the badges will be available. We're going to have patches. We're going to have some of the PVC Velcro patches as well. Coins Coins as well. It's going to be limited at first. I think we're going to do like 100 coins of 50 of the badges, 50 of the PVC things, because we broke. We got to make money to make more. I can't afford the inventory, if you will, but we'll have a link for you guys on that and then banning one. I don't know if there's anything that you had to add before we go to another video, so let's roll that next video.
Speaker 1:All right, let me try to figure out which one, I'm suspect. Okay, we just watched that one. Okay, here we go. Share screen Albuquerque Okay. Okay, there we go, only a minute police department for those in the trailer.
Speaker 9:You need to come out with your hands free and clear.
Speaker 1:Let me see your hands do not move anyway, force will be used against you okay, um, I am not 100 sure what's going on, but we are loud hailing people to come out of a trailer, and I heard them say you want to fuck around and find out, or something to that effect. So I am ready to find out, and more than likely in this scenario, my gun's going to be out and ready to go. I don't know what's going on, though. Do not come near us.
Speaker 9:Ah fuck, ah shit, ah fuck.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just read the title. So that makes sense now in my head. I'm lying. Title, so that makes sense now in my head I'm lying. Oh shit, we did not have a line of fire is what happened? We had people behind us shooting guns. This is why you get online with each other. It looks like he got shot either in the arm or in the hand, because his hand was bloody. So I'm not going to lie. I might have turned around and shot you in the leg, fucker Bam. Eye for an eye.
Speaker 4:A little reaction shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not sure where he got shot. Ah, fuck me. Ah, oh, and he's got his rifle, so he wouldn't even Albuquerque Police. Okay, we got a better angle here.
Speaker 9:This is the Albuquerque Police Department. For those in the trailer you need to come out with your hands free and clear. What? Let me see your hands. You don't have any way of force moving if he gets you. You want to.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just seen right around here, saw somebody coming out. Okay, yep, he's continuing. I think he's right about in between the trees right now. Oh, so this officer had nowhere to go. He's up against the wall or as close to the wall as he needs to be. What I don't know is did he move, move forward or did they drop back? So let me, I'm going to go back. Well, actually, let me play this through to the completion.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm not laughing.
Speaker 9:Do not reach for the gun. Stay down, stay down.
Speaker 11:Damn, I'm sorry, I'm not laughing. I'm laughing at his reaction.
Speaker 9:Stay down, stay down, stay down.
Speaker 5:Can you put 24-7 in?
Speaker 3:a crossfire, suspect's down Gun's away from him.
Speaker 1:Okay, so he was armed. He did have a gun. Looks more like suicide by cop to me.
Speaker 9:Yeah, that's what it's looking like Star 43, 55.
Speaker 1:34's been hit. Stay down.
Speaker 9:Drop back, spread out your hands.
Speaker 1:Let me go back, stay down, let's see if we can't tell what happened here.
Speaker 9:Get in my booth. Anyway, force movement, you can get to him. Let's see if we can't tell what happened here. They're kind of lined up right here they're going to be 40. Do not come near us.
Speaker 1:They're backing up. They dropped it. They dropped it. Oh fuck, oh shit. And if I were to guess, I don't think it was this one's body cam, no, I think it was the one to the left. I think it was the one to the left. Yeah, in the middle there, Curious where he got shot. The description said the bullet went down his arm and exited his hand. Oh Lord.
Speaker 4:That could be something, that it could be a career, ender.
Speaker 1:Yep, this occurred in the Albuquerque called the War Zone, the part of Albuquerque called the War Zone, the part of Albuquerque called the War Zone. Oh man, that is crazy. Do people not know Will Cray? Do people not know how to not muzzle? Fuck each other? Oh shit, that was fucking crazy. I'll do respect his response when he got shot. Oh, fucking, fuck me he's in pain he's insane
Speaker 1:yep, um, space frog said from the description, the female officer does own her mistake. That's good Owning it doesn't take the bullet out of my arm. No, like I said, you shoot them. I've seen officers that tased other officers Like you're gonna get beat. Um, oh shit, what did I do there? Anyway, they've got some new features on the restream so I just realized that I can highlight y'all's comments for its own special list. So if you guys have questions, I can hit the star on there and then make sure I don't miss it. So it's kind of cool. Oh, marine Blood. About fucking time, marine, you still recovering from your fucking birthday? I bet he is. He said forgot all about this, hi y'all. Well, luckily for you, marine Blood, we were late as shit. My kid's basketball game ran over, so, all right, let me go to the next video. Share this tab instead. Biggie size. Okay, we're good there, let's go hi.
Speaker 5:um, there is what appears to be a gentleman that has a dark hair, black top, um, black shorts, um, that is on Lexington and Cole, and he's sitting outside behind the slide area of the pool and a lot of the parents have said that he might be brandishing what looks like a gun, but we're not too sure if it's fake or real okay, okay, so yeah, uh, I was about to say I was trying to get to it.
Speaker 1:My brain was watching what was going on. Fake or real, it doesn't matter, I'm pulling my gun. If you present it like it's real, you may not like the outcome.
Speaker 1:Yeah okay, they've told him several times shows your hands, drop it. It looks like he does or he set something down, but it looks like he's already reaching back for it again and I'm gonna guess he's acting a little doped out. He got that meth mechanics. If you will Look at your backdrop, that's a public. That's horrible, yeah, horrible backdrop. That may have been why they didn't pull the trigger the first time, just based on his movements. Now again we've got a blurred out area. We couldn't see what was going on. But good for them to pay attention to that backdrop, hey drop your hand, drop your hand, drop it, drop it.
Speaker 8:I'm gonna go back. Sorry, I don't know if he said drop it or if the one guy said hey, your backdrop.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go back. Sorry, I don't know if he said drop it.
Speaker 8:Or if the one guy said hey, you're back dropped, hey, drop your hand, drop your hand, drop it, drop it, drop it, drop, turn around, turn around, turn around, turn around.
Speaker 1:Did you hear that the pool was telling everybody to leave? So good for them for paying attention.
Speaker 11:I dropped that shit. Where's your ass?
Speaker 1:Not Monday morning quarterbacking. What were we waiting for on that taser right there? Yeah, I would have already taser right there. Yeah, I would have already done it right then and there, that would have been me, hey.
Speaker 8:You got something in his hand. It looked like a gun.
Speaker 1:That's the other thing too. Unless they know it was a gun, do we have an offense Right?
Speaker 8:So too, unless they know it was a gun do we have an offense right.
Speaker 11:So walking uh eastbound across oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Now I will say, even if I didn't necessarily know, if I have an offense yet, he's definitely worth detaining. But then his behavior when I tried to detain, I am for sure going to get a hold of him now. Behavior when I tried to detain, I am for sure going to get a hold of him now. So for those wondering, like you know, did you have an offense? Are you allowed to stop him? Well, that behavior, I believe him to be a danger to at least himself or others, simply because he's not listening to cops in a normal circumstance. And my training experience tells me that he's doped up or having some sort of mental crisis. But that was very druggy looking to me, I don't know another way to put it. I agree, we moved everything dang. Look at the screens they got in their car should anyone stand by for anything to call back?
Speaker 3:Dang. Look at the screens they got in their car. He's running watch.
Speaker 7:Why aren't they doing anything? They should play. They should play.
Speaker 11:They should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play, they should play.
Speaker 8:They should play, did they not want him? Thank you for the roger. They're trying to confirm. If it's him, he's running.
Speaker 1:This cop's on he's spot on. Like how many more fucking clues do you need? He's running from you. Like that's not normal behavior.
Speaker 4:Let's detain him and get it over with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now you don't just get to chase anybody, because they run from you necessarily.
Speaker 8:But in this, instance, what are the odds that?
Speaker 6:another person is going to. This is me and every officer I know daily.
Speaker 10:What the fuck did they say? Why aren't they doing that?
Speaker 1:Like you're just questioning every single thing because you don't have the answers in front of you. 100% correct, especially where I'm at in the entertainment district, where you can't hear very well. Anyway, I got an earpiece microphone set up and I still can't hear. Sometimes I'm like I'll look at it and the officer next to me what the fuck are they saying they're like I don't know, Is that him?
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 10:I'm on the right side of the runway, laminata 10-46,. This is I-D-R-V-I-C. We're gonna back up for a four-star?
Speaker 8:Yeah, fuck it. What'd you take out? Shotgun, shotgun, shotgun. Do it again, do it again 60-4,. I'm gonna take you to the 6-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0.
Speaker 1:So little known fact. When you shoot through glass, especially in an enclosed area like this, bullets rise, fall depending on the angle of the glass, but also you get vaporized glass fragments in the air. You're going to get irritated eyes, irritated lungs, all of those things to consider. So if you're going to shoot through your windshield, make sure it's worth it.
Speaker 10:And your auditory exclusion is also going to be elevated because of the DEs that you just got exposed to. Yep, yep, I think she's got shots fired. Hey, this is Miss May. This is the case 46, did you close in on backup area? You know, two guys are on rolling off. I don't even know who's up. Who's up, watch out, watch out.
Speaker 8:Oh, no, hey, shot's fired, shot's fired, shot's fired, shot's fired, officer real soft shot's fired, I'll be able to say requesting a backup on the second floor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, could we shoot him more Shot.
Speaker 11:I.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at the camera. I don't see a gun in his hand.
Speaker 9:Go, back in Go back, go back. Hey, get on your back. This dude's nuts.
Speaker 6:Don't reach for anything, drop everything Poetic Where's that I didn't pause it.
Speaker 9:Why did it pop, hey, right there hey, don't move, I'll grab a gun, don't move don't move, don't do it, dude, don't move hey give up your hands.
Speaker 7:I can't do it, give up your hands.
Speaker 8:No, you gotta fuck up.
Speaker 9:Give me your hands, I need to have the weight on sir Put your hands behind your back, guy.
Speaker 3:I need to have the weight on, sir. Put your hands right there.
Speaker 1:Hmm, I'm going to go back. When they made contact in the car, I, just I am having trouble figuring out what they saw. His back's to them, yeah. Is that it? If there's a gun in that hand right now, I get the shots fired.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and just so people that are watching understand, this is an Axon video, so this is a what? 150 to 180. So it's a fisheye view, so this guy is going to be closer in reality to the officers looking through the window of what they're seeing. Just so everybody understands that.
Speaker 1:Oh, that might be it right there. That looks shiny. Yeah, I think that was it. Okay, I retract my statement. That makes sense now. That's the difference between seeing it in full time and then having the ability to go back, pause, stop, pause, stop, pause, stop and do what we do. So, yeah, now I get it. Now it makes sense to me. But when I first watched that in full speed, I was like I don't see what they're seeing. But that is why we do what we do. Um, okay, I get it. Uh, go to the comments. He's all 15 feet in front of the squad car, probably. Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 1:Brandon Sterling said he wanted to have a coffee and donuts with the cops. Should have just asked. Right, one of the officers is holding a yellow shotgun there at the end. Maybe that was a less lethal firing from the patrol car. Yeah, I think one of them might have been being back under something. It were. It may have been a shotgun, um, but the first guy was firing his pistol like that. Absolutely, rounds went through the windshield, um, I'm curious for for training and education purposes.
Speaker 4:when they went back and redid this, where did those rounds go? Yeah, you know just in reality, because you know as well as I do, because we actually do a little bit of training where do those rounds go when you go through glass, I mean and hopefully these officers have had that training. I'm not knocking, but you know when you hit that glass what that round does is yeah From the inside.
Speaker 6:I think it goes up and from the outside, it goes down is that right, or maybe I got them reversed, shit.
Speaker 1:I don't even remember, I believe. So all I know is it doesn't go where you think it goes. It does not. Yeah, um, damn, yeah, we're we're about that. That's all the videos I've got queued up. Um. From there, I wanted to go to my instagram, our instagram. Um, let's see here. Instagram share. Um, we'll go to our profile. Uh, let's see here. Um. So I wanted to share this video. If you guys not if you you haven't seen this one yet. Um, call 911.
Speaker 11:Oh, it was my phone.
Speaker 8:It did it on accident, okay, and I I'm here trying to get the thing. It was complete accident, okay, no, you're not I seriously have the food still there and I'm going to get. I'm going to get penalized for it. I don't even know what to do about that.
Speaker 11:What's the address? Is there a way that you can contact the? Person. Yeah, I'll call her right now. Let her know that I'm going to deliver the food for you. Thank you, sir. Yeah, absolutely, I'll run it over for you. I'll call you once I deliver it. Okay, how's? It going Okay.
Speaker 11:You're a Uber Eats delivery driver. He had a flat tire. Hey, yeah, he had a flat tire. He was just five minutes down the road and he actually he accidentally called 911. And when I pulled up I saw him and he was telling me everything. And so I just I figured I'd come and run the food, do you? Want a water. No, I have some in my car. I appreciate that, thank you, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4:Oh man, so that's the stuff that people don't get to see, and this is going on every day across our country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do spend probably more than I like to, and I'm an optimistic person just by nature. I spend a lot of time on the negative stuff, either trying to do a positive spin or something that seems negative or like in the case of the elderly man. That's not a lot of positive to that, but the positive side of that is cops calling out other cops when it's justified, cops calling out of the cops like when it's when it's justified. So I want to start sharing more on here, because I don't know these videos that we're about to watch. I at least want to start highlighting some of the really good videos because, like banning was saying, this shit happens all day.
Speaker 1:Every day, 350 million calls for service on police and there's. This happens so much. You just never see it because it's not sexy. People don't like to share this stuff. So whoever managed to get a hold of this body cam footage I'm hoping it's one of these people here that sought it out, because officers aren't going to do it. This officer was not going to go pull his own body cam footage through a freedom of information act and have it highlighted. Now the department may have, which would be awesome if the department did yeah, their their pio may have seen that you're like you know what?
Speaker 4:let's, let's throw a bone out there and show what these guys do on a daily basis. It's not necessarily exciting, it's just going through and doing what we do yeah, that that is.
Speaker 1:That's the community policing side that I like to see. You know, citizens in a jam you're not on a call. Well, I mean technically he was on a call. The guy accidentally pocket dialed 9-1-1. Um, and good for the department. They actually responded to the scene of the 9-1-1 call and uh oh, ocean girl said uh, did you see the video suggestion I made a few minutes ago? Oh, I didn't. Uh, I didn't see what she said either. I was like I love this one. Sorry I missed it. Uh, maybe you can send it again. I'm trying to go back through. I didn't see it, I'm sorry, but um, yeah, this was like this this one made put a big shit eating grin on my face. When I saw it I was like this is fucking awesome. Like good for you, dude, like that is how you go above and beyond without having to do a whole lot. You just grab the food, go down the road.
Speaker 4:And there was another one out there and you may have covered it. I mean, I know a lot of people did, but that one where the Uber driver was arrested for whatever, yes, and he comes and knocks on the door and he was just very polite and said, hey, your Uber driver kind of got hooked up. I'm here, I looked at his deal and here's your food. Sorry, it's late, type of thing. And again, that's going above and beyond. I mean he could have just very well thrown the food out or put it into evidence, whatever, and then those people would have got their food and they didn't do anything wrong. They're just ordering off a freaking app.
Speaker 1:I mean, if the cop acted like some of these trolls are saying, they just would have taken the food and eaten it themselves Nobody would have known. You can't let it go spoiled in the car. So no, that one man I'm telling you it made me feel good the rest of the day. And you know that one man, I'm telling you it made me feel good the rest of the day. And I'm around cops that do good things all the time. My own guys Come around the corner one time and they're changing a tire for somebody. I'm like that's fucking awesome. Good for you. I'm glad they did that. So I'm always seeing really good things. Like I said, they don't get shared enough. So I'm going to try to make an effort at the end of these lives to share just a feel-good video, if I have one. So this was one of my feel-good videos. I wanted to put that out there and I think you guys, if you really pay attention to the content I put out, I try to go one for one the best I can. I try to put out a good video, but then I also try to do one where we need to learn. We need to learn. So I try to go one for one as soon as I can get Banning to start pulling his weight. I need to get Banning to start doing some reaction videos and posting and get him on all of our channels.
Speaker 1:Where's Ozark? I actually saw something here. There was one where a cop stopped a pizza guy right in front of a delivery address. Poor guy pleaded to just get his pizza from the driver. I haven't seen that one. No, I have not seen that one. If you got a link, dm it.
Speaker 1:We'll use that for the next episode that we do on here. So we are trying to switch our days, not switch them, but we're trying to hit Monday nights around 9 pm Eastern right now. We did Tuesdays for a while. It's kind of counteracting quite a few of the people that we get on the show regularly, frank being one of those Frank really likes, of those Frank really likes doing these. So Fridays with Frank.
Speaker 1:But Kenny Ren, ninja Daniel from Police Law News, eric Tanzi there's just a ton of people that we get and the Monday seems to work out a lot better for other people. That's what we're going to try to. We're just going to try it out. We might do it on Sunday night, even though that's my first night off and usually I just don't like doing anything when I get home. I want to veg out, not do shit. You can already tell I'm going to go back in the house and probably snack on some food after this. Eric and Banning, sometime in the the future. Please review the Houston PD incident from 11-11-23, so a year ago today. Hpd has a solid press release on it and shows a situation from several body worn cameras policy. Come on, banning, get your game going. Your game on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, you're right the goal is I think I've given banning access to all the social media stuff, I think, but we haven't actually tested that theory yet. So we got to take a day where he comes over, we make sure he has access. We do test posting. So you guys are going to see a lot of that and eric's basically gonna have to break out the crayons. So I, yeah, understand everything yeah, so we'll get his phone set up so he can do it from his phone. We'll do all that good stuff. Are you doing anything tomorrow?
Speaker 4:you gotta work tomorrow, tomorrow I've got a full day. Thursday I'm in a wedding. I mean there's a lot of, a lot of things that are going on, but friday, friday's looking better, bro, you know, I know, I know you know you don't need to sleep from the night before.
Speaker 1:Well, if you decide you want to come over, like, let's say, noon, one o'clock, we could spend, because I don't got to start getting ready until about three, so we could do that if you want three hours of dicking around.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 1:Well, as usual, everybody. Marine Blood said Tansy usually has a show on Monday nights. Yeah, but mine's better, so it's fine. Tansy's an asshole, that's all I said there. I love Tansy, that's fine. Our shows can contradict each other, because I think he has something on Tuesday nights too. That's why he's always rushing around. Spacef frog said I'll check that out after this. Ocean girl yeah, if somebody can get me that link to the one that ocean girl's talking about, we'll definitely get that on later. I don't really find videos anymore. Most of it comes from y'all, so I appreciate it. Thank you very much, oh go ahead, benny.
Speaker 4:Benny, I was gonna say just keep sending them to Eric, send them to me. Yeah, we'll do our best to kind of get them up there and I need to be better at looking at my messages and get them to Eric. Uh, so people know that I'm kind of going into a new role at work and I'm I'm learning it and it's a more business development side and it's it's been trying to expand on its horizons.
Speaker 1:Right now we are in the process of really trying to grow our YouTube channel. It is. I think we've grown just on YouTube in the last few days by a few hundred. It's not bad. Yeah, we've jumped over 1,000 subscribers in the last, uh, 30 days, so it is bumping. We are jumping on youtube. Um, that's the one we're really trying to get up there. If you are not a subscriber on our youtube channel, it's at two cops, one donut, all spelled out. Please jump on there, subscribe, it's free, it takes you a few seconds and that is a direct way to help us be successful and grow. So that's what we're looking to do. But if you don't really do the youtube thing, jump on our facebook, on our twitter. Uh, well x, um, what else is there? Instagram even though instagram doesn't let me grow, I've been 125,000 for like a year and a half.
Speaker 1:They're like shadow band us. Ocean Girl said how do I send the link through your app? Just on any platform, ocean Girl, you can go to our direct message on Instagram. You can go to our direct message on Facebook, tiktok, any of those. Just send a direct message to us with the link and you should be able to get it to us. I don't know how to direct send it on here, but just a heads up on YouTube, the notifications are not working last week or this week. Really, hmm, I, hmm, I wonder why. Well, good to know, I'll find out. I'll try to figure that out, but you got any any closing Mark?
Speaker 4:No, man, this is the highlight of my week. I love doing this. I love getting all the comments afterwards and then we start sharing a lot more. Those are there. They're very positive in nature. Those of you that are connected to me on LinkedIn, they get to watch this live and I appreciate all your feedback. I know we're doing great. We're going to do better and better each time, so just looking for you to spread the message out there and let people know what we're doing and we're interactive, unlike many others that are out there. We want y'all to give your opinion, we want the questions. Just ask it. It's a good work. Nice to get back to you.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Thanks, Kelly, Appreciate you. Ocean Girl, appreciate you too. Everybody else thanks for tuning in and we will talk to you guys next week. Take it easy.
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