2 Cops 1 Donut
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2 Cops 1 Donut
Cops, Cameras, and Criminal Trespass
We break down law enforcement topics ranging from the proper use of language during tense encounters to the legal requirements for criminal trespass procedures. Our candid conversations reveal common misconceptions held by both police and the public.
• Analysis of an officer-involved shooting video where escalating language preceded justified force
• Detailed explanation of criminal trespass procedures and when officers can legally request identification
• Discussion of First Amendment auditors and the frequent misunderstanding of constitutional rights
• Honest examination of police accountability systems including Internal Affairs and qualified immunity
• Exploration of ego and power dynamics in police work with examples of unacceptable officer behavior
• Focus on bridging gaps between law enforcement and communities through education and perspective sharing
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all right, welcome back to cops. When donut? I am bored in my dorm room here on the military base doing my military time and I am trying to go live on Instagram and TikTok. And I decided to see what happens when I do vertical, also on my YouTube channel and my LinkedIn and Facebook. So if you're joining in and you're watching and you're like what the hell, why does it look weird? It's because I decided to do the vertical so I could also do TikTok and Instagram. I don't know how it's going to be.
Speaker 1:If you're my YouTube following, let me know. I apologize is what it is. This was not planned, I just decided to jump on and do it. So if you're out there and you're like, oh shit, what's this? I am Eric Levine. This is the Two Cops, one Donut podcast slash social media page.
Speaker 1:Whole goal is to bridge the gap between police and the community through, basically, education. Really, that's the main thing. Share perspective, give you guys a voice, those that want to gripe at a cop. That's what we're here for. So people are jumping on. What are you doing? What is going on? Did I lose a couple of days? No, you didn't. I'm bored. Y'all my YouTube following. I'm bored as shit.
Speaker 1:I've been sitting in this room all day. I already ate two breakfast burritos. I ate one for breakfast and then I bought a second one. You can't see it, but I'm living off of that damn microwave in the mini fridge behind me, so I got nothing else to do so I'm drinking some smoke wagon by myself. My wife's busy. She's got things going on. She don't want to FaceTime me now, so I'm having a little sip for my people on youtube. How does it look with the vertical like is it look? Did they do it in vertical format? If you're on my linkedin, could you guys tell me how the linkedin looks? But I am simultaneously trying to check all of my TikTok because I think we went live on TikTok. Yeah, we're live on TikTok as well. So just saying hi to everybody Again.
Speaker 1:I'm one man show here. He says I haven't seen your face in HD before. Not sure about this. I don't know how you haven't seen my face in HD. Sir, we literally work together. Brian Thompson's out there. He said I'm stuck without power. Stupid tornadoes yeah, tornadoes scare the shit out of me and I live in Texas, so I'm with you guys.
Speaker 1:Put out a video today. It seems to be. It looks like an iPhone video on YouTube. Okay, interesting, good to know. Mr Bill Fo, what is this madness? I'm going old school guys. This is like.
Speaker 1:For those that haven't followed me since I started, this is what I used to do all the time was just me. I didn't have friends. Ward said smallie size this. Yeah, it's only going to be in vertical format today. I apologize.
Speaker 1:I wanted to get my Instagram and my TikTok on here. Try to get those people to jump on and say what's up and kind of put their feelers out there. King of the dinks, make cops like guns. Well, considering I'm wearing a shirt with guns on it, if you can't see this retro rifle shirt I'm sporting, it's got some hidden sniper rifles on it. Definitely big 2A guy. I see the Gold Shield Show saying what's up, brother, what's going on on Instagram? Just going through the comments, you guys will have to bear with me because I've got a lot of different spots for comments. So I got to watch Restream, I got to watch Instagram and I got to watch TikTok. So trying to keep it all together.
Speaker 1:Then, patrick, true Love, howdydy, mrb, mama G, tats, everybody in the community Saying what's up to each other? Just Education, education. Oh, I got it, I put it together there. Education, I said ready or not? That's a great police game, by the way. And yeah, mr Billfold, I know I got the the whiskers growing here because it's the weekend and I can virtually grow a beard in like two days. So is what it is. If they decide to call me in, then I'll just shave, go in, but they ain't gonna call me in until tomorrow morning. So is it? It is Sunday, right? Yeah, it's Sunday. Having a little smoke wagon CCG in the house? Actually, that would be constitutional country girl. Yeah, ccg. Yeah, that makes sense. Thought there was one more there.
Speaker 1:King of the Dinks, what kind of sniper rifle? That's a good question. Let me look. It looks like it's on an AR platform with an extended heavy barrel. Yeah, it's an AR platform, but it doesn't specifically say what it is. Yeah, it's an AR platform, but it doesn't specifically say what it is. And, a matter of fact, now that I'm really looking at it, I'd almost say it's not so much a sniper rifle as it's a precision rifle, Meaning it can reach out and touch you, just can't reach out and touch you like a sniper rifle can.
Speaker 1:But, guys, I put out a video today, so let me pull that guy up here. We got some good conversation going. It was an OIS officer-involved shooting, so it is. Oh, look at that. I found a new way to scroll stuff. Give me one second. While I figure out how to navigate my own stuff here, I'm gonna pull that thing up. Education m110, sas, dmr. Don't know as much as I love guns, I am not a gun aficionado, so I will tell you that much. Let's see here, two cops, one donut. Let's go to our page. Let's find our shorts. There we go, we will pull this one up. Okay, we're going to biggie size that. We're going to share the screen. Give me one second. Y'all Share that guy. All right, there we go and let's go. The option involves shooting and it's kind of graphic. I'll blur it out.
Speaker 2:Hey there, Put your hands on the dash. No one reach around. You understand me and let's go.
Speaker 1:Don't reach for that fucking gun, or I'll shoot you, you motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Hey, stay back. Don't reach for that fucking gun. Keep your hands on the motherfucking dash. Keep your hands Shot fired, shot fired. I got you. Let's get the CQT to get him out. It's right down there on this lamp. All right, yep, let's get him out. Get the gun Hold on, hold on, slide over, slide over, so we're not crossfire. Slide, slide, slide, slide. Hey, watch out, get to the car out there. Slide, slide, slide. I'm on him, you hold him. You hold him. I got 62. Draco, no one reach around here, understand me. Of course I won't take another car On the fucking dash. You reach down there again, I will shoot you, motherfucker. Keep it on the dash, bro. Keep it on the fucking dash. Make it 84. Don't reach for that fucking gun or I'll shoot you. You motherfucker, stay back. Don't reach for that fucking gun.
Speaker 2:Keep your hands on the motherfucking dash. Notice the goosebumps.
Speaker 1:That's a physiological change due to stress.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:We will small-e-size that guy and we will stop sharing and that's what we're going to discuss for today. We're going to get an use of force on that. We're not going to go over a whole bunch of videos like we would normally do on our live streams. So this is kind of a dumbed down format just to chat and education. Threw out a little bit of wisdom for everybody. He said Draco is a great gun for people who don't want to hit their targets but want to scare the neighbor. Scare the neighbor.
Speaker 1:Now, on that video, let's kind of get into what I said about it and basically it was great police work all around. I mean I didn't see a flaw in anything that was done. They came up to the car, polite, professional Even, even told the guy like hey, keep your hands on the dash. He didn't see the gun. The passenger, I think, drew his attention there because he had reached down the first time. That's when he was like hey, keep your hands on the dash, completely professional. Then I think the cop saw the gun and that's when everything elevated. So he elevated his language.
Speaker 1:Now I did hear people in the comments. They were a little upset, uh, saying that it was unprofessional in the way that he was talking. He shouldn't have been motherfucking the guy, to which I would say I would agree with you if that's how he started. But he didn't start that way. He tried to start professionally. That didn't work because this guy started to try and what I consider walk on this officer by testing how serious the officer was.
Speaker 1:The officer could have been justified in shooting right away, but he didn't. He escalated his language. Why did he escalate his language? Well, one, he was stressed out too.
Speaker 1:I think he did this because, if he didn't, the only other option is force. You're not going to go hands-on. You're not going to let the guy get to the gun before you shoot. That's not how this works. We don't have to wait to get hit, just like when people square up with us as police officers, I look for fight indicators, bladed stance, pumping their fists. The big one is clenched jaw. They stop communicating like if I see you doing all this stuff, I don't have to wait for you to hit me, I can hit you first, I can take you down right then and there. So these are things that we can do as police, that people get upset about when they don't understand the articulation behind it.
Speaker 1:Now, in this one he used, you know, he motherfucked him up and down Like he was trying to convey the seriousness of what was going on and that he was not playing. And you even hear his partner like keep your hand, like dude, stop taking your hands off the dash. And you can hear the passenger, the dude that got shot, was like like oh, dang, is like that. Like yeah, absolutely so. Those that were getting a little upset on the language uh, let me see how this works here. Guess who just jumped in? What up? What's up?
Speaker 3:hey, it works, look at that I saw your, uh, my phone beeped and I was like well, I'm sitting next to the computer, we'll try it, why not?
Speaker 1:this was impromptu y'all. Nobody on the donut uh network really knew that we were doing this. So so I was talking about the video, alan, I don't know how much you heard, uh, but it's talking about the shooting video, so I was just to the part about the language. So the officer clearly seen the firearm and even tells him like, if you reach for that, I'm going to shoot you. So I liked that the officer. This is one of those times where I tell officers like show your cards. This is one of those times you don't want to hold back. Let everybody and their mom know you see a gun and if he reaches for that gun, there's going to be consequences for that. And that's what this officer did. And that is hard to train. That is not something that is like you learn that from other people or it's not really trained. I think we do train to call out a gun if we see a gun, but in instances like this, where you're trying to figure it out on the fly, like this, was good on this officer. I really think they did a good job at letting one person talk. So that was amazing, letting just the one guy talk. I was really pumped about that.
Speaker 1:So we only had one guy in charge. He had a clear line of sight. He moved to try to. Obviously that driver wanted nothing. He didn't want no smoke with anything, was trying to plead with his partner like bro, don't reach. And here's another point that I wanted to make. Normally and this is just in my 18 years of law enforcement, alan, you back me up, but this has been your experience when people get stressed out from cops and they intend to give up, hands go up. They go on their head, they go up, they'll touch the ceiling, they'll put their hands out the window, they'll hold on to the steering wheel, they will not move. An action that never happens unless you're trying to do some dumb shit is reaching. Yep, when you're trying to do some dumb shit, it's either you're trying to get rid of dope which we don't know if it's dope or a weapon or you're trying to reach for a weapon.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's real quick because everybody really does talk with their hands, and so it's like, hey, I'm not doing anything wrong. Yes, sir, Very quickly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now Alan's face is covered by chat, which is what I don't like about vertical mode. Oh, you guys can't see. I mean to me I can see Alan's face, but I don't know why you guys cannot. Yeah, maybe if we change around the view a little bit, Sorry.
Speaker 3:I see Alan.
Speaker 2:Fine on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Yeah, country Girl may be on something different, because right now it looks fine to me I'm going to go back to the big size, but yeah, so let me get to that point. Now he moves. Um, I think I'm hearing myself. Why am I hearing myself?
Speaker 3:I had it playing for just a second on my phone, oh okay, okay, I thought it was me, I was trying to mute it down before, so I could actually see what everybody else was looking at.
Speaker 1:No worries. And so now he angled away, he got a better shooting path, and even then he still didn't pull the trigger. So that's another thing I was trying to articulate is like if these cops were out there being bloodthirsty and all they want to do is kill people and use their gun, this guy had every opportunity to do it and he basically went with like a three strikes and you're out rule. I don't think he intentionally did that, but damn, how much do you risk? Because that particular gun shoots 7.62, I believe, and those rounds are going to go straight through vests. That'll chop you up. That that'll chop you up.
Speaker 3:Um so, david edmonston said oh, no biggie size on sunday night.
Speaker 1:Huh, we are biggie sized.
Speaker 3:I see what she's saying I do see what she's saying, so so what is that on?
Speaker 1:youtube oh, it's the youtube one. Oh, harrison brock just uh bought two memberships. I think member for two months, yeah, yeah oh, nice, nice.
Speaker 1:Thank you, harrison brock. Appreciate you, brother. Guys, anytime that you do, um, buy those stickers or anything from our YouTube that directly helps keep going what we got going. So yeah, I don't understand why the chat's got Alan's face all blocked, but I mean, it is what it is, not much we can do about it tonight. Country Eric and a cup of beer. Don't want him drinking alone. That's my girl, I like that. That's a wingman right there.
Speaker 3:That's why.
Speaker 1:I'm here, buddy, that's why I'm here. I was feeling bad, man, you were lonely. And just a reminder to those that are watching uh, I am on wi-fi. This is not normal for us. I don't normally try to do the show on wi-Fi, but it's all I got, so I will probably kind of be some rough coverage here.
Speaker 1:Mac RDPU, where are you guys cops at? That's for us to know and for you to find out. So, mac, on TikTok, I appreciate your question. We do not discuss that because we are still active police officers and we can't associate the police departments that we work at with what we do on our social media. They have to be separate. So I do appreciate that it is very easy to find out Just Google us, you'll find us. But I can't talk. Appreciate that it is very easy to find out, just Google us, you'll find us, but I can't talk about that. So that's on our TikTok account. So let me see here.
Speaker 1:True Love said I'd pop a beer if I had the money for one. You ain't got the money for a beer, bro. You can get yourself a nice steel reserve tall boy for like 99 cents. Brian Thompson, I'm on my car's satellite hotspot Country girl. Too bad. I can't gift you one, patrick. Yeah, I'd give you a beer for sure, sir. But all right, let me get back to discussing that video. And if you're on Instagram, thanks for popping on guys. If you are more comfortable, we are streaming on YouTube. We're also on TikTok right now. So please, if you guys are just jumping on, ask questions, talk about videos that maybe we've shown in the past.
Speaker 1:If you got police-related stuff, let us know what was it. I jumped on a Long Island Auditor's post today where there were some officers that just were so out of pocket. It was ridiculous. So I just put in the comments like that's terrible policing, they need to be fired. And his people just went after me just because I'm a cop. So I was like well, I'll learn my lesson. Don't chat on Long Island auditors people's page on Instagram. They don't care.
Speaker 1:Uh, jacob Wesley, keith Lyons, mpa. Yes, um, shotguns and tattoos. Oh, pat, if you got Venmo, I'll buy you one. That is a sweet girl right there. And then Mr Billfold, member for three months, level three, baker's Dozen message I sit with Alan. Men are gross. Oh, I love it. Poor Alan. He's only got one fan and it's Mr Billfold. And the sad part is Mr Billfold doesn't even like me. He's only here for Alan. That's fine. I don't like me either. I just like Alan, but it is what it is all right.
Speaker 1:So now, on this shooting, this video that we put out there, this officer-involved shooting, I want you guys to also be one cognizant. I tried to point it out while the video was playing. You can see. And thank you again, mr Billfold. I didn't say thank you after reading your YouTube membership thing, so I do appreciate that. Sir, I feel like a dick.
Speaker 1:Acorn Magdump said not all of us. I'm on OG, I'm an OG Long Island Auditor supporter. Appreciate it. Yeah, I know you guys wouldn't, but the general crowd that's talking on there, they're not big fans. Country Girl, I've got a statement.
Speaker 1:Slash question, eric. Unbelievably, I see more and more cops being ignorant and violating rights. When are you having the Qualified Immunity Show? We're really trying to work that for Vaughn. Ask Mr Billfold If you guys aren't familiar with Vaughn. He's a big presence and he's hard to corner. So trying to get that, I promise you I'm going to have it. Mr Billfold, I tolerate Levine because he is sweet and capable, if slow and a bit touched. Oh man, patrick, true love. Y'all are too kind, honestly, and won't divulge here, but been in a tough situation for quite some time. Sorry to hear that brother Speaking of auditors from Ozark Moon chiming in. I heard her voice in a tough situation for quite some time. Sorry to hear that brother Speaking of auditors from Ozark moon chiming in. He heard her voice in a minute.
Speaker 1:That clip you posted to the bank got a ton of comments, didn't it? Yeah, which one Cause it seems to be all the first amendment auditor stuff that I've been posting lately has been bank related. Like that's the new thing? Is that the new strategy? Uh, is that's the new thing? Is that the new strategy Is jumping on that? I'm just trying to see if anybody chimed in on IG. It's crazy. We got 150,000 followers about on Instagram and we hardly get anybody that jumps on the lives. Maybe we just haven't done them enough. They don't show up enough. I don't know. It's weird to me, but, um, yeah, as far as, as far as the bank things go, it's it is weird. Weird that they keep hitting up the banks and that's I kind of get the strategy behind it, because nobody wants their bank information looked at. So it kind of get the strategy behind it, because nobody wants their bank information looked at. So it kind of makes sense. I see why people would call the cops.
Speaker 3:People panic. They panic when people are just like roaming around a bank with sketchy cameras and things like that. So yeah, cops always get called to those.
Speaker 1:Yep, Yep, Long Island. Jake Wesley said Long Island audit can kiss my ass. A bunch of jerks. I don't have that opinion. I actually really like his style. I think it's very educational.
Speaker 1:I haven't heard him be wrong in his information he puts out there. Now I haven't followed him for a long time so there could be old stuff that he screwed up on. But shit, there's old stuff that I screwed up on on my own podcast, stuff that I don't take anything off. So I'm sure if you go back you'll be able to find it so own that we all fuck up. But the way that I've seen long island auditor, at least in the past couple years, I like his stuff. I think he's helped improve policing because it showed an extreme gap in training that apparently is still there. So mr billfold eric doesn't like me either. I'll have a debate on my man crush Von Kleem, the dream on QI one day. I stand no chance but I will take the beating, you sick son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:Oh man, the whole point is to get y'all to respond. Yeah, and that's part of the other problem that nobody really likes to talk about. Why are we not calling out civilians a little bit? Why are you calling the cops? Why do you not know the law? Or are you trying to manipulate the law and use the cops as a patsy for yourself? Like, well, maybe they'll just leave just because the cops showed up and you know damn well they ain't breaking a law? That's where this bridge in the gap comes in. Y'all Like, yeah, police got work of their own to do, but y'all need to do some of your own work. There's a lot of freedoms you have here that you're not aware of and you're trying to call cops on people because you think it's against the law.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of Karens out there and Carls.
Speaker 1:There is.
Speaker 3:Are they Carls or are they Kyles? You know, I've heard them called both.
Speaker 1:I don't think we've come to a consensus on the. Is it consensus or census? Consensus yeah, I think so. Either way, I don't think we've had a consensus census on we lost you there for a second buddy.
Speaker 3:Oh, did you? You froze up for just a second. Yeah, you're back now.
Speaker 1:What was the last thing you heard me say? The consensus.
Speaker 3:I don't think we've had a consensus.
Speaker 1:I don't think we have a consensus slash census on if it should be Kyle, carl or Chad, because I think those are the three that everybody kind of uses. But everybody agrees it's Karen hands down. So let's just say Darren, don't be throwing in new names. C-c-g-n.
Speaker 3:Darren.
Speaker 1:Darren. It doesn't have the same. It doesn't have no karen and darren, that now I haven't heard darren once ever, y'all trying to make up some new shit. Cops are supposed to inform the callers that no crime is being committed. Yes, instead they fuck up and enforce feelings and policies that are not lawful. That is another major mess up that cops are not taking the time to do. Your job is to educate as well. Don't just tell them, hey, there's nothing we can do. Say, hey, see where they're at, they're on the public sidewalk, they can film from there. It's a First Amendment, protected right. Anything their eyes and their camera lens can see from the public sidewalk, they can film from there. It's a first amendment, protected right. Anything their eyes and their camera lens can see from the public sidewalk is free game. So if you don't want them looking into the building through your windows, close the blinds. If you don't want them looking at whatever like, it's your job to make sure that stuff is covered up. So I heard Ken. I haven't heard Ken.
Speaker 3:I haven't heard that one, nope. You know why is it that so many cops will not like do that with you know, I feel like we have to make so many decisions but they're afraid to tell somebody that. You know, why are you even calling us here, like this is not an issue? You know?
Speaker 1:I don't understand that yeah, I like um, what, um, uh, fucking magnum saying here dispatch could field a lot of problems. I wish they could, but they literally can't. They're not allowed to. Yeah, they're yeah unless they are push it out yeah, they have to push out, unless they're sworn personnel. Um right, I'm looking over here at instagram. I see the aaron jane coaching. I think that they should be called chad. Uh, raymond bennett said brandon and karen, let's go, brandon.
Speaker 3:Oh man, y'all are that's gonna start a whole nother conversation yeah, we're not trying to go down the political roll there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then those cops want qualified immunity when they get sued for trespassing people from sidewalks, and that's another part of this. Guys I keep seeing cops are like well, they want you trespassed from here, so you have to ID. Meanwhile the guy is on public sidewalk. I'm like he has to be on property. Here's how trespassing works. Y'all, and a lot of people aren't aware of this. If you show up and I'm just going to say it's 7-Eleven, because that's one of the most common places we trespass people from so you show up to 7-Eleven and the worker behind the counter is like I want that dude trespassed from here. And I will go over to that guy and say, hey, they don't want you here. Did they tell you to leave? No, they never told me to leave. Okay, stand by, let me go talk to them real quick. Hey, what did this guy do while he was here? He just stinks and you know, I can tell he's homeless and we don't want him here. Okay, did you tell him to leave? No, not yet. Oh well, that's kind of the thing that you need to do. You need to tell him to leave. Would you like us to tell him to leave. Yeah, okay, dude, you got to go.
Speaker 1:So with trespassing, you have to afford people the ability to leave. You can't just call and get a criminal trespass or trespass warning without affording them the ability to leave. So now you go over there and tell them hey, you got to go. If he tells me, no, it's a public place, I don't have to leave, well, now I have criminal trespass because I afforded him the ability to leave. He's still on property, now I can do the criminal trespass. So in that, that's when we can start to ask for information. But, alan, I'll challenge you. Can we force them to ID If we're not arresting them?
Speaker 3:No, not unless we have a bigger issue to be there for, we have to have a crime for having been there and at this point it hasn't been a crime, to this point.
Speaker 1:Right. So that is another part where cops screw up. Even I screwed this up younger in my career. I thought, oh, I've got criminal trespass, now I can ID them Because you're filling out paperwork. That's not true. And I got slapped by the prosecutor. He's like you can't do that. I'm like oh, oh shit this is how I was trained to do it. So yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 3:A lot of times yeah, I was like you know oh, dispatch called me here, so you have to id to me. Well, yeah, yeah, that's the other one yeah, yeah, just because you took the call doesn't mean it's a violation of the law.
Speaker 1:So so for for you younger cops out there, when we're talking about a criminal trespass, warning little piece of paper that you do if they want to tell you that their name is optimus prime, that's what you got to go with you don't not fail the id, then that's not failure to id, because you're not.
Speaker 1:You're, they're still going to leave. You're still making them leave Now, if they choose to stick around, stick around. Now. They're violating the criminal trespass and I'm going to arrest them under the alias of Optimus prime. And now I can identify him. Secondary, secondarily, I'm terrible with words lately. I think I'm getting dumber.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's cause you're isolated.
Speaker 1:Maybe it is. Yeah, it could be right. That could be right. So listen to me. Cops, newer cops, especially because I was led down the wrong path on trespassing, I had poor training and this is what's weird For you guys to understand where I'm at has amazing training, but somehow, some way it got mixed up with my training out in the field and some officer that didn't know what they were doing led me down that path. So Wade Lucero said what did it say? The first job of a cop is to put you under their control. The second job is to charge you with a crime. It all starts with a call for service.
Speaker 3:The first job of a police officer is to keep the peace, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and honestly, when I show up, my first job is basically like all right, do I have an offense? If no, let's get this shit over with.
Speaker 3:Can I get back into my vehicle like warm back up or something?
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh man, brian Thompson, have another drink and we'll test your speech. Yeah, I'll put my eyes up to the camera. We'll test your speech, eric. Yeah, I'll put my eyes up to the camera, see if I got hgn, hgn. So uh, yeah, with the criminal trespass, guys, remember that does not automatically give you the right to identify somebody in texas. I kind of want to speak for other states. Y'all may freak out. Don't be blowing Alan. Yes, thank you Alan. He's not even wearing a retro rifle shirt. Y'all.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, sir.
Speaker 1:Unsat. What about a whiskey lullaby shirt, sir? Oh, he's got his badge. Hell yeah, my man, this looks like a big one. I'm going to read it. Sorry, you will never convince me.
Speaker 1:Men filming kids' dance studios or ladies' boutiques is not creepy. I'm not going to try to convince you of that. I agree with you. I wish the cops would at least try to have an honest conversation with weird old men. It's creepy for women and moms. Even if it's your First Amendment I mean I can't speak for every cop, but I don't know a single cop that wouldn't do something when they see a creeper. Yeah, they will try every trick in the book to get that person out of there if they 100% know that that dude's just being creepy.
Speaker 1:But it is a slippery slope, y'all, is it? It is the best body cam evidence failing to trespass properly I have seen in a long time. What one is he talking about? It is the best body cam evidence of failing to trespass properly I've seen in a long time. What one is he talking about? It is the best body cam evidence of failing to trespass. Is he talking about the Mr Belfold are you talking about? He said? I resent that one link. I don't have the ability to get to that with what we're doing right now, so I can't pull it up. I'm sorry, I'm limited in what I know and can do doing this. This is only my second time ever doing what I'm doing right now, so I apologize.
Speaker 3:Well, and the screens are gonna get all jacked up if we start adding a whole lot of other things. Yeah, I know who only knows what it's gonna do. Do next, you know, right, one of the things that bothers me about criminal trespass is you show up to this convenience store and they're like, oh, I want him criminally trespassed. Okay, you think he was shoplifting, let me go figure more out about this. But then, you know, you find out that he really was shoplifting. I don't want to press charges, I just want him criminally trespassed. It's like dude, like figure it out, like why did you call me here? You know, or you know, it's two weeks after they've been criminally trespassed and they're like well, I'm not, I'm not allowed to be a witness for you. Then why were you you allowed to tell me that he, you were going to be the guardian of the store and sign the piece of paper for the criminal trespass.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you don't you don't get both sides of that.
Speaker 1:Yup Uh. Over on Instagram, d lamb 30 oh seven said he just had the same discussion with his PO. Um yeah, it's uh guys, I'm telling you, maybe I should put out an instructor instructional video of criminal trespass. That would be a good one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that is a good one.
Speaker 1:I'm piecing together the ego class that my buddy George had come up with another officer that I'm friends with I want to put together like a little series. I taught the class to these young airmen that are base cops, basically military cops. They're young, they're anywhere from 18 to 22, 23 years old, so their prefrontal cortex isn't even finished developing yet and this class directly affects them and we discuss it in the ego class of knowing your prefrontal cortex doesn't stop developing until you're like 25, that is where your logical brain is at and that's where you want to be thinking from all the time. As a cop, you don't want to be thinking from your emotional part of your brain. It's literally the wrong part of your brain. So that's what this class gets into. So I've been teaching that, that, that's what this class gets into. So I've been teaching that and the I don't know, maybe maybe taught 50 to 100 newer airmen on that and they love it. Love it so far.
Speaker 1:Oh, acorn, hooking us up, what do you give us? Got the super chat going. Five dollars, nevada h and c dist, tcod, smoke wagon donation accepted. Is that? Who makes smoke wagon, right? Yeah, hc, hell. Yeah, I know I've been repping them forever. I wish they would. They do see us on Instagram occasionally. They'll like something that we've done. They know we exist. Maybe they're just testing out our loyalty what do you think about this?
Speaker 3:isn't trespassing calls? Some of the most common calls? What would you say? The most common calls are? I would say that domestic, you know, or inside the home, fighting, you know. Yeah, somebody's not getting along. What other are your most Just?
Speaker 1:disturbance which is so general Disturbance is a normal one.
Speaker 3:I heard a loud noise.
Speaker 1:Traffic accidents. Those are another, like during the daytime, you know, early in the morning, like you know, 7, 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock, there's a ton of accidents. And then around lunchtime there's a bunch of accidents. And then when work gets out, around four or five o'clock, there's a bunch of accidents. Yep, um. Brian Thompson said I am totally unemotional when, when stressed or on a call, never have been members, you get a free milestone super chat every month. Hell yeah, I don't even know what that means, but I'm glad you get a free Milestone Super Chat every month. Hell yeah, I don't even know what that means, but I'm glad you get it.
Speaker 3:Thanks for advertising there, Mr Belfort.
Speaker 1:I know Mr Belfort is helping us out.
Speaker 3:We're learning something every day.
Speaker 1:Right Still waiting on that White Claw endorsement that Ward says no offense to. White Claw, but it is not for me. I can't. I don't like the texture of it. I don't like the taste of it. It tastes like TV static.
Speaker 3:My wife has these water alcoholic drinks.
Speaker 1:It's like some kind of water flavor and oh, it's terrible yeah I can't even do those yep, uh country girl said that her pet peeve is when cops who won't leave private property, when told repeatedly and have no warrant, no pc. Yeah, you got to have some sort of uh like, if there's a hot call, you're in. You know pursuit stuff like that. That's a hot call, you're in, pursuit stuff like that. That's a circumstance where it's in the course of their duties, but other than that, you really have a warrant. Like she said, she's right, click the dollar sign next to the chat and you can post one comment like that per month. Oh, no, shit to the chat and you can post one comment like that per month. Oh, no shit. See, I gotta make mr billfold, just be my brian thompson. Look at me. Thank you, brian thompson. Appreciate it so much, brother, that is hilarious too.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much, did you know? We're not real cops.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're not real cops. No, I don't think that's what Keith Lyons is saying. Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:He's on LinkedIn. Shotguns and tattoos. Here we go.
Speaker 1:What'd she say? You are directly responsible for me being hung over tomorrow at the food pantry. You're welcome. You are welcome.
Speaker 3:My name looks, looks shotguns and tattoos.
Speaker 1:You should be hung over tomorrow.
Speaker 3:That's an awesome name you did it to yourself I agree.
Speaker 1:I'm over here looking at my I I I gram instagram chat um bs narcotics feed said that theft in progress, not in progress. That's a common call. That is very true, God how many? Times you get that. That's so annoying. He said at least in the small town of Robstown. Lol, alan, look it up, see what the population of Robstown is. I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of them, but so mr bill fitz said imagine me an outlaw uh working, working for the popos.
Speaker 1:Hey man, what better way to bridge the gap, baby?
Speaker 1:that's the best way to do it right, uh, or stick it, oh oh. So at my, we actually make our recruits go through this exact scenario. They have to go to a loud music call. Now, granted, I work for a very large department. We are very blessed to have an amazing training facility with a whole mock village inside. So they show up to a call. It's a loud music call, and the whole point is we bait them into trying to stop us from shutting the door, and they fall for it all the time, and then we tear their ass apart. So that is absolutely a scenario that should be beat into your recruits' heads, about sticking your foot in the door Because you have breached the threshold, and that's what we tell them. Where's the invisible threshold here? You cannot go past that without a warrant or an exigent circumstance, and because it's loud and you can't hear them does not give you the right to do that.
Speaker 3:So which Rob's town are we talking about? Are we talking about Texas? I don't know Rob's town, Texas.
Speaker 1:BS narcotics feed. What Rob'sown are we referring to? We're just curious.
Speaker 3:So we'll see if he says it, 10,000 if it's Texas.
Speaker 1:Well, if it's Texas, yeah, we got 10,000. What if a Parks and Rec supervisor requests a CTW on a homeless for consistently violating park rules and camping? Ooh, that's out of my wheelhouse. I don't know, I would think, because it's a public park.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well, and I think there's probably an ordinance involved in it. Yeah, like park ordinances.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe if there's some sort of city park ordinance. But I would tell you I'm not going to do that. I'm going to refer it to the prosecutor and see if they want to do it. We'll call it a suspect case. So I'll write it up, I'll write the report. I'm not going to trespass the guy, right then and there I'll let the prosecutor decide and then he'll put it on the detective who will write the CTW, right. So that's how I see that. In other words, I'm going to pass the buck, because that is not in my purview and I don't know. The answer to that that is the beauty of being a cop is, if you don't know, you can pass it down the road.
Speaker 3:Well, did you see that bill that's been presented in Texas to eliminate parks police officers in the state? This has just been presented and what are your feelings on eliminating that department?
Speaker 1:They're eliminating. What now?
Speaker 3:The park police Texas the parks police department, Texas Parks Police. I've never even heard of such a thing. Why would you need policexas the parks uh, police department texas parks?
Speaker 1:police. I never even heard of such a thing. Why?
Speaker 3:would you need?
Speaker 1:police just for the parks. Is that what?
Speaker 3:well, they are the ones that are employed at the actual park facility to be the police officers on that in that department. Oh so they basically at one time they were part of part official wildlife, but now they've kind of been separated and so they they manage, and are the police on that, those properties yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, sarge said he was training some airmen. Yes, yes, I was. Uh, let me see here, and yes, exactly why qualified immunity needs to be abolished oh, they try to suck you in every time you get on here every time and listen.
Speaker 1:As of right now, I don't agree. I'll tell you that I think it needs to be tweaked, but not abolished, just like defunding the police. I don't think defunding the police was going to work. And then, lo and behold, it was right, it didn't work. It didn't work but it doesn't mean my mind can't be changed. Just need to hear that shit presented a certain way I could change my mind at the drop of a hat. I am not married into how I think Easily can change my mind with a good argument, but until I hear a counter to the reasons that I think it will cause some problems. But we'll save that for the Qualified Immunity episode. Sons of bitches, they always get me going.
Speaker 3:I do want you guys to know that there is a whole section of notes on things that we want discussed on that, so like there's a whole page going on, yeah, we literally have a script.
Speaker 1:Not like to follow a script, but we have a whole like. These are the common questions you all say and ask and statements you make. So we want to make sure that, even when it happens, you guys know that we're trying to cover everything that you've talked about in the past because, yeah, I think it'll be a good episode. So, looking over at TikTok TikTok's pretty dead. We don't have a lot of followers on TikTok. Instagram's pretty dead. We got about eight people on it. Come on Instagram, step up man, get your people over here, uh. And if you guys are not about those platforms, jump on youtube or linkedin. We're over there too. But my sheriff's department has deputies that police the national park. That would be so fun. I would love to be able to go. You know, like, imagine if that was like your retirement gig for your department, like you're on your moonlight years. You know you're about done. That'd be the shit as long as you don't fall off your bike.
Speaker 3:You know that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1:Shoot, I'd be on a horse, for sure, for sure, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Mr Billfold. I'm going to run a studio and be in on that debate. I like it. What did Patrick say? I see people responding to him. I missed it, patrick, I agree on the. What did he say? I agree on the IA thing Acorn Needs an outside independent source to investigate. Thing Acorn needs an outside independent source to investigate.
Speaker 1:I think if you guys knew more about the process of IA it would give you a lot better hope. Smaller departments typically don't even have an IA. They do defer it to state police. So that's another positive. But there's really good checks and balances. Like where I'm at, we have a police monitor and I actually had her on the podcast so you can hear her talk all about the checks and balances there. Um, you know you also got use of force review boards. You got all these different outside things that can really help keep things in check. So I like it. Um, board rumble we are on rumble, but we're not on rumble right now. Um, I've tried to get it to like like I've linked it up. I just don't know why it never shows up when we go live, so I just stopped doing it. I think I need to read the rules and figure out how to do it, but where are we at?
Speaker 3:Gaines and Gaming said Texas Rangers will investigate two for large problems. So actually in my smaller agency we invite them in to investigate almost any crimes that's bigger than us and so since they have the resources we don't, they'll come in and be kind of the investigator and then we'll go track down things that they need us to track down Plus, like, say, it's an officer-involved shooting, they will handle the whole investigation and then our department will handle kind of the internal side of it. But then they come together at you know, and keep their information separate and then come together at the end to give it to the district attorney yeah, um, acorn mag dump, ia always says we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong, and that's where, again, I will disagree with you.
Speaker 1:Um, a matter of fact, I actually shared a link I think it was with mr billfold, where the officers of a sheriff's department I think in San Antonio maybe or something like that in the county they've arrested 16 of their own people just in this last year and they had like three more that were on the chopping block. So that's what I'm saying is like you guys don't hear about the officers that are getting busted by IA all the. You guys don't hear about the officers that are getting busted by all the time. You only hear about the controversial ones. So I don't know what more you would want. I would want my you know department handling doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1:So it's not that I'm saying that it never happens. I'm sure there have been good old boy systems that have come up or elapsed in the investigation in itself. But I can tell you right now I'm not getting fired for your dumb assery and every IA guy I know they're the same way because their investigation is subject to being looked at by outside eyes anyway. So if it does go awry and it ends up going to trial, their IA investigation is going to be looked at and if they find out that they intentionally missed stuff or omitted stuff or whatever, they're fired. I'm not getting fired for some dude I don't know. I mean, I might know your name, we may work at the same department, but I ain't going to jail for you. I'm not getting fired for you. That's what I say. Uh, jacob wesley, I keep wanting to say wesley. Um, I will say this.
Speaker 1:Like the audit video where the cops don't know the laws about firearms and they get corrected. I know most cops, unfortunately, don't know a lot of some of these firearm laws, though. Fair, I've seen some videos of cops that don't know that stuff and they sure as shit don't like being corrected in the field An off-duty officer and the dispatcher, drunk, called dispatch to avoid getting caught DUI killed a pedestrian a year ago and still working, never arrested. Dna matched the vehicle. Okay, like I said, I didn't say that it never happens, but it is not this sweeping wave across the nation that it's just continuously gotten better and better. That's been my experience. There is a difference between IA finding wrongdoing when a cop gets a DUI. It's another when they sweep officer abuses under the rug. True, true, true, true, um. Did you hear the 20 year dui candle in new mexico? What?
Speaker 3:is that scandal?
Speaker 1:oh, maybe that's what he meant. Scandal y'all. I'm not speaking very well tonight. If you't spell right, it's really going to be a bad combo.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 1:So I have not, and.
Speaker 3:I'm real close to New Mexico, so S and T.
Speaker 1:Was you asked about Venmo? Agree, I said they should have been busted on site. We would have been arrested on the spot. It does get in the weeds sometimes when it involves police, like the video of the young female officer trying to pull her sergeant off of a dude after he used excessive force and we had the discussion before and people are like, well, you need to arrest him on the spot. That depends One. Guys, you need a victim. Just because you said you would have arrested that person on the spot, I may have went and talked to that female officer and she's like no, I don't want to do anything. Can't arrest somebody that doesn't want to be a victim, not on simple assault, at least in Texas. So that's going to be an investigation. Charges can still be filed through the DA, which is what's going to happen. Eric, red face, blue, smiling face, blue smiling what?
Speaker 3:That must be some.
Speaker 1:That's got to be some weird thing on YouTube that I can't see.
Speaker 2:I'm looking for it now.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're grabbing it. I was going to say. I was like what is that? Too funny. Uh-oh country girl, everybody's going to buy Patrick a beer. I like it. That's what I'm talking about. Oh shit, be quiet. Rainblood's here Can't quite see. It Is what it is. Red face, blue face, higher, higher, little higher. There we go. Oh, okay, I got it. Now I see Cornelius on there. Yukon Cornelius Too. Uconn Cornelius Too funny.
Speaker 3:I need a little refill y'all.
Speaker 1:I do have to work tomorrow. Can't be too crazy tonight.
Speaker 3:Do you go in the same time every day or?
Speaker 1:is it different? It does vary 8 o'clock tomorrow. Some days it's like 5.45 because we have PT, things like that. Marine blood. Blast it. You caught me, love it, marine blood. Another one of our transplants over there from Failure, stop Podcast.
Speaker 3:I am on History.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go to your room. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3:No, I have my earphones in.
Speaker 1:Just don't say Biggie Size again, and I can remain sober tonight. Am I a drinking game?
Speaker 3:You are. Yeah, we've talked about that a couple times. Yeah, Anytime you say Biggie Size, I have to take a shot.
Speaker 1:Oh Lord, I'm trying to stop saying uh, that's a new one for me. I've listened back to a couple shows and I keep saying uh, uh, uh. It drives me up the wall. I just wasn't cognizant that I was saying it so much. Shotgun for fuck's sake, country girl, just looking at the chat seeing what's going on. Guys, give me one second here Checking over on Instagram, you should do a dating show episode on here. Oh Lord, mads Vanneken that's a cool name, by the way.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:I'm on both chairfors. Oh, fucking Mr Billfolds on Instagram too, talking on our chat. He's trying to mess with me Too funny. Country Girl News says what were they saying about me?
Speaker 1:Wade Lucero police are protected by the city, which is a corporation not owned by the people. That's why there is no justice. Google, when was my city incorporated? You're getting into the weeds on me for that. I can't help you with that stuff. I don't handle the civil side of things. What do we got here?
Speaker 1:If an officer witnesses a citizen, attack a citizen, they don't need a victim to press charges. Yes, they do. How can a subordinate police officer choose not to be a victim of an assault, but a domestic violence partner can? So there is a slight difference there. Like in Texas, mutual combat. I don't have to take anybody to jail.
Speaker 1:If it was mutual combat, which is more than likely going to be what that police officer was going to say. No, no, I put my hands on him first and I don't want to press. Try, I don't want nothing to come of it. Okay Is what it is. It's going to get reported for sure. And again, the prosecutor can choose to pick up charges on that if they want, but me as a cop. We're not making an arrest on site. We will suspect case. It create the case, let the detective work, it get all the evidence together and then present it to the DA and then the DA will decide if they're going to press charges. And normally what the DA is going to do is they're going to reach out to your victim and say, hey, we want to move forward with this case. Are you going to be a cooperative victim, slash witness? And if they say no, then they're not going to press forward with that. But if it becomes a felony where there's serious bodily injury, then the cops can do something. So if you guys are fighting and he gets a good punch, knocks you to the ground, and then all of a sudden he's putting boots to your head and you're just covered up.
Speaker 1:Well, we get over there. You got a concussion and broken nose and all this stuff. That's different. Now we can make an arrest on sight. We don't need that person to be a victim. However, again, it may still go that way, it may still be. We get you checked out by medical. Medical is going to release you. We talk to you, hey, do you want to press charges on this guy and you're like no, I talked shit to him, I touched his girl's butt and I got what was coming to me.
Speaker 1:We're going to suspect case it. So if you're not familiar with suspect casing guys, this is essentially what happens. This is why you don't see an arrest right on the spot all the time. We're going to get all the evidence that we got. We're going to collect all the information, get the witness statements, get all that, put the videos together, put it on the report, give it to the detective. The detective is going to do follow up, put it together and see if they've got enough to push a case and if they're not sure, they're going to reach out to the prosecutor and be like here's what we got. Do you want to press forward with this? And the prosecutor is going to be like yes, or find this out for me, or I don't think we got it, but let me reach out to the victim and they'll reach out one last time before they decide. That is your discretion, that your prosecutors have discretion.
Speaker 3:That your prosecutors have. So Mr Billfold asked how is a cop choking another cop not disturbing the peace? So and and you said it later, different states have different laws, but in Texas, if that happens, you still have to have a complaining party. An officer can't be the complaining party on that situation.
Speaker 1:Right Yep.
Speaker 3:For it to become disturbing, the peace, yeah, or, in Texas, disorderly conduct.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but if it's a domestic, that's different. Brian Thompson, he just timed up. Yeah, we're thinking the same way, brian. Yeah, if it's a domestic, that's different, because now we have people that live in the same spot. We can't separate you.
Speaker 1:There's nothing we can do. You both have a right to that place. So we as the state can be like all right, there appears to be some violence going on. So to prevent further violence, if it's just verbal, it's just verbal, we can leave, we don't have to arrest anybody. If it's just verbal, it's just verbal, we can leave, we don't have to arrest anybody. But if there's signs of violence, we have to figure out who the more aggressive party is. I'm blanking on my wording for that and we're going to take them. I will say yeah aggressor, yeah, the aggressor.
Speaker 1:75% of the time it is the guy. So, and even those, we take them to jail, put the case together. That person's out within 24 hours and the case is given to the domestic violence detectives. They'll try to forward it to the prosecutor and your victim won't be willing to prosecute. So shout out to mag mag dump. He said, using a warrant for Matt Thornton to appear on the next live or 60 days in jail. I love it. Uh, ward Levine you down for some mutual combat? Yeah, anytime, brother. I uh. I don't think that would be a good day for you, ward.
Speaker 2:You know how much I've trained.
Speaker 1:I've been doing jiu-jitsu since 06. I did judo before that and I've been boxing the last two years. So good luck, buddy. I'm not trying to be cocky and I just got a 96 on my PT test. So if I can't beat you up with technique, I will out-attrition you. Santiago, Ah, Santiago, I believe that's Native American for whale's vagina. Or wait, no, that's San Diego. Come on, guys. Ron Burgundy joke.
Speaker 2:That was a good joke. Oh, it was, it was yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:You're killing me, spalzer. The OP was the OP. I'm an idiot. A cop was fired for going 89 to work and was pulled over by another cop. The cop going 80 left the traffic stop. Oh yeah, I did see that video. That was Florida, I believe. Yeah, he was hauling ass going to work no lights, no sirens, in a residential area and he was a city cop. And the deputy comes up and was like what the fuck's a fire bro? Like what's going on? He's like I'm going to work, what do you want? And the guy's like I need to see your license and your insurance now. And he's like no, and he just fucking leaves. So things like that. Like can you arrest them right then? And there you can Do. You want to do, I want to fight with somebody that is also armed. No, I'm not trying to do that if I don't have to. So try to take the easy route. He's easy to identify. You're going to know who he is. Let's just go through the proper channels and get it handled that way.
Speaker 3:That one's pretty easy to take care of because generally you can make one phone call and that one top to bottom gets handled.
Speaker 1:And the car is going to tell on you. Anyway, All you got to do is report it. The car is going to tell everything about you. So I did watch a video today from the civil civil, the civil rights lawyer. Have you ever heard of him? I think I've showed his stuff on here before. Alan the civil rights lawyer. He's a badass. He does, he does follow-up, which is what I like. So the video I watched today was a follow-up. I'll give you guys the rundown and you guys kind of chime in and tell me what you think. So guy gets pulled over and I'm talking the dad of the dads. I guarantee he had some new balance shoes with grass stains, like you know, a fanny pack, Like he was the dad of dads.
Speaker 1:Like, when you see this guy and the cops like comes up and he is, he pulled him over because the guy was flashing his headlights warning people of the speed trap. Oh, Jared Cosina's on what's up, brother? He said I'm watching you from Vegas right now my man Shout out to Jared. So he's flashing his headlights warning people that there's a speed trap up ahead. That's constitutionally protected, right? I actually think there's a Supreme Court case on that or there is some sort of circuit court case that's determined that anyway Cop pulls him over for that. So the stop's already illegal Because you can't pull him over for that. But he tells him that's what he pulls him over for. Then he proceeds to write this dude a bunch of tickets, and as he's telling him all these tickets he's writing, he tells him one of the tickets that he could take him to jail for was for having an unsigned registration. Now in Texas we don't have registration cards, but in some states they do Michigan, I think. We have.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, that's right, yeah, the guy just kind of laughed, just like I did, like really, dude, okay. And the guy goes oh, is that funny? Proceeds to make him get out of the car, puts him in cuffs and arrests the guy un-fucking-believable right, their, their sheriff doubles down and like takes this roundabout way of trying to justify what that deputy was doing instead of just owning it and there was no repercussions to that deputy. I'm like are you fucking kidding me? And then we, then we see guys in in this chat like you know, mag dump and and, uh, country girl and mr bill fold and andy fletcher and some of these other guys that are like no, we see this shit all the time. And you're like I haven't heard of that but I'm not looking for it either.
Speaker 1:But since doing the podcast, I'd look for it all the time. Now, now I'm finding it and I find this one, because it was a case that when I first saw it it's like one of the first things I ever spoke out on I was like this is bullshit, why, why would you arrest a dude? Like is the juice worth the squeeze? That's kind of where I started using that term. A lot was based on that fucking thing and the sheriff doubles down and I'm like levine, is that the one it is? If that was one of your guys, what would you? You fired, fired yep fired.
Speaker 1:Goodbye, because not only you know I, I will give you the uh, I will give you the uh. Mr billfold said yeah, eric, double down is why you earn all the hate. Yeah, like that, the double down deserves the hate. Absolutely like I, I live in and die by the. I screw up all the time. I don't mind screwing up. I actually learned a lot more when I screw up and I figure out that I screwed up.
Speaker 1:I don't have an ego and the pride to to try to double down. And so, and even with this guy, for his initial stop, let's say that he literally thought he had the justification, like maybe he thought that was like okay, we have a training problem, we'll get you in some training shit. But you can't look me in the eye and tell me that you arrested that guy for a just reason other than flexing your power, which to me is abusing your power and letting your ego get in the way. I don't have room for that. I can't untrain that. So you're going to get humbled, you're going to get fired. Maybe another department picks you up, maybe they don't, but you're not going to get, you're not getting by with me. That ego shit should have been checked at the door the minute you swore that oath and you put the badge on. That's just the way I look at it. So I hold this to a high standard. So if you're a cop out there and you're like, oh, you're a fucking traitor, like no, okay, I mean you can think that, but look at yourself in the mirror and tell me that what I'm saying isn't true. I don't know any cops that are worth their salt. They're going to tell me I'm wrong. They may not like it. No, levine, we should be looking out for our guys. It's a tough job as it is Okay. Yeah, do it when it's appropriate. Do it when it's appropriate If your guys you know like.
Speaker 1:I'll give you a good example that Michigan cop that pitted that state trooper. He pitted a car going the wrong way on the freeway. He found an opportunity. He pitted the car and he ends up getting suspended for like 90 days without pay or something. That's a time you look out for your brother. That guy did the right thing, even though it was against policy. That guy did the right thing. He saved lives. We know the fatalities that we see on the freeway from wrong way, drunk drivers at night and yes, that person was drunk, so so that, that's, that's how I see I'll get off my soapbox.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry guys, sometimes I get on a tangent that's why we have the show is because you have a tangent, so we appreciate you having that tangent, yeah yeah I, I don't know, am I way off?
Speaker 3:I'm just no, I completely agree with you. I think you know I've been watching the chat and talking about all the high beams and all that kind of stuff and the one thing that makes me think, you know, I've spent some time on the highway lately and all the cars have high beams now. It's not like early on, you know, when I was in high school when you had like separate bulbs and things like that and you were like man, I'm blinded now. But I feel like that brand new Lexus that comes driving by me. I'm like God, I can't see. And those were just the basic headlights.
Speaker 1:And all of the trucks now are way bigger, I mean, and taller. So now the lights, you know, the cars didn't get any taller. So if you're in a regular car, that light's coming right in your eyeballs. Um, that light's going right in your eyeballs. I don't like the way I said it. The first time.
Speaker 3:I think you should take it I think you should say biggie Size on that one, you should have a drink on that one.
Speaker 1:We're going to Biggie Size this drink, guys. Sorry, david Emerson, tell us how you really feel. Eric Wood, marine Bloods oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:No, you're good.
Speaker 1:Ward, that is true. Way too many brights, especially the blue ones, and what one did you highlight?
Speaker 3:Ryan Hosing?
Speaker 1:I don't see it. Cops are putting people in a cage because their feelings were hurt. I know, and that is something for and this is good too, because I actually have a coworker on here, ward, and you guys see him in the chat all the time. So you haven't seen Ward get on here and be like Levine. You're a traitor to the blue side or anything like that. We don't even work on the same side of town. So I'm trying to tell you guys, I'm not a one-off, I'm not a one-of-a-kind where I work. This is the majority, and I can only say majority because I don't know everybody. But somebody went a little crazy. Pravis, pravis got him a membership. Who shot that out there? Magdum, magdum, my man, acorn Magdum, hey, walk around and find out.
Speaker 3:Finally got one. Yes, he did, I like it. There you go.
Speaker 1:Walk around and find out. We haven't heard him chat in a while, david, no, we haven't he was so mad that he didn't get one that night yep, pravis tried so hard um.
Speaker 3:Let's see who else j beam hard scrote do we need to have, like, the top 10 names? We do, we do we can do a show just on the names.
Speaker 1:David Thompson got one. Okay, cuckoo and Michelle DeClew Is that a real name? That one's borderline Marine Blood? I feel blinded. Every time I pass a car, imagine the damage it's doing to our eyes, no different than the damage you probably got done to your eyes in the marine corps.
Speaker 1:Sir um, marine blood can't get a gifted membership. But somebody named hard screw gets like marine blood's been on here since, like since marine or since mr billfold's been on here and yeah, he just keeps missing out. Fuck around and find out poor marines. You know I hate to say marine bloods. Now I'm kind of rooting against you. Like it's more fun the longer you go and you don't get one. It's kind of funny to me. Uh, that's just the dark humor, sir um, if you guys are on our instagram, guys don't forget to chat, say hey, um, let's give a shout out while I'm getting a refill here.
Speaker 1:If you guys look at alan right now and you look at his chest, he has this very fancy Sorry, oh, you're good. He has this very fancy metal badge on. That is our Two Cops, one Donut badge. We have a coin that he's about to show. So our Two Cops, one Donut coin. You can also get our Two Cops and One Donut coin. You can also get our Two Cops and One Donut patch, which is rubberized PVC patch. What's that? Look on the backside, is it Velcro? Yeah, this one still has Velcro. No, you're good, you don't have to take it off, but yeah, it's Velcro on that as well. So if you go to Ghost Patch and you just type in Two Cops, one Donut, you will see those things for sale. It does help the page. It gives you something tangible. But, as you can see, you can also jump on our YouTube channel and maybe you'll just get gifted a membership as long as you follow us.
Speaker 1:Country Girl just threw out five more memberships. We've got Attack Cop. I don't know if that means attack cops or if that means he is a cop that attacks things. That's an interesting name, ryan Boyer. He's chimed up a few times. Congrats, sir. Make sure you guys are thinking country girl for this stuff. Stuck in Oz. 1216. Matt Holmes. Any relation to what's the other Holmes, sherlock? Isn't there a porn star named Holmes too? I bet? I bet Mr Billfold knows.
Speaker 3:Oh. Harrison Brock got no he gifted 20, didn't he?
Speaker 1:You know what? It probably didn't. No, it didn't. It cut off again, it did it to that first point. Yeah, yep, yep, it took one. I think it only lets us do so many in a stream, I don't know why. Sorry, harrison, we appreciate the love, but yeah, it looks like it only let you get one out. Samuel Roberts got it. I don't fucking understand, dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, like I don't know why it does that? Because there's not any settings that we haven't set.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I looked at it the other day good, I don't know marine bloods is like our saint jude's kid god, y'all are rude, insert dramatic pain. Look here, eric.
Speaker 3:That hurts me. Oh shit. T-ward says I'm going to take a drink every time Marine Blood doesn't get a membership.
Speaker 1:Shoot, you won't make it through the show, bro. You're going to be wasted fast. Oh shit, that's too funny. Well, I I wish I knew why it cuts off the memberships y'all. Um see, oh and alan, by the way, we are over an hour and we're still on instagram.
Speaker 3:is it still going? Yeah, it's still going. Okay cool, so it didn't cut off.
Speaker 1:Maybe they changed it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And to David Edmondson out there biggie size, sir, biggie size, that's two, that's two. Poor Marine Blood needs his crayons now. He likes the red ones. Oh, not gonna work. Gifted but it.
Speaker 3:It says he gifted five memberships but nobody's gonna get them somebody said the other day it was because that was as many viewers as we had, and so it but that's not true, because past that but that's not true, because the well, maybe it is as many viewers as you have, but people that weren't viewing got memberships. Right, right, yeah, I don't know, I know that's how it's issued out, but I'm wondering if it only lets you go to a certain dollar amount for how many viewers you have for how many viewers you have?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. David, bottoms up, don't send more gifts. They will not go out to anyone. It will refund them. Yeah, I don't fucking understand. If anybody figures that out, please let me know. I've tried to Google it. I haven't found any definitive answers. Even when I go look like I'll look at it. Right now I can look at the studio on my phone and even now, like memberships, I can see it. There's nothing that's there's no settings for it that limits it. It's got a limit to it, so I don't get it. It really sucks, because it it would. I think it would keep people more interested knowing that they had a membership yeah so I just want mb to get that membership.
Speaker 1:Devil dog Semper Fi Night mom. My mom's going to bed. Marines is going to eat the black crayon because of depression. He's emo tonight it's his emo crayon Shenanigans.
Speaker 3:I like the word shenanigans yeah.
Speaker 1:Have you tried grokking it? What does?
Speaker 3:that mean I'm scared to Google that yeah.
Speaker 1:Have you tried grokking it? What does that mean?
Speaker 3:I'm scared to Google that, yeah.
Speaker 1:What are you setting us up for? Marine blood? Am I going to get flagged by the NSA? Define grokking, let's see Grokking, grokking.
Speaker 3:Empathize no, or communicate sympathetically grokking empathize, no or communicate sympathetically to understand profoundly and intentively oh, that's a good word for a marine he googled that shit.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I get no respect. Poor marine bloods, marine bloods. He gets no respect. I'm gonna message a friend who works at google as engineer. Are we in portrait mode or is my phone messed up? No, we're in portrait mode, buddy, we uh, we're trying something new yeah, we're trying something new. We want to get our instagram and our tiktoks going. So, yes, yes, it's a little different.
Speaker 3:Do you have your other camera turned on?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was just going to see what it looked like with three cameras, if you did.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think I can turn on my. Let me see here, add extra camera. There you go. I look washed out as shit. Let me see.
Speaker 3:There you go. I just keep stacking them, so it makes them smaller.
Speaker 1:I don't like. Look how white I look. Is that blow?
Speaker 3:up. Doll supposed to be over there in the corner.
Speaker 1:Hey, it gets lonely in the room, bro, it's lonely here. Don't judge me, I am so lonely Right.
Speaker 3:Oh, I better quit singing that song. They're going to take us down.
Speaker 1:I know right, Uh-oh. My cousin sent me a video Said it's an 11-year-old's prank ends in felony charges. Curious what that's about. Huh, I can't do anything about it. Magdump, why do you?
Speaker 3:think TikTok hates free speech. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1:Oh, they absolutely do. Like that video I showed earlier. If I hadn't blurred out that portion, that would have got me a strike for sure, really Okay, oh yeah, would have got me a strike for sure, really Okay, oh yeah, would have got me a strike for sure. Yeah, I've. I am on the cusp all the time of getting banned from Tik TOK because I'm not thinking about it and I'll post, like what I post on everything else, and then Tik TOK will flag me and they're like Nope, that's a strike. And I'm like fuck, and I've been banned.
Speaker 1:Not banned, but um just like how we had the, the youtube ban, that one time, right same time I couldn't do anything on tiktok for like 30 days or something like that. Yeah, I got. Yeah, copyright strikes. Yeah, that's another one. Yeah, I've. Uh, that's the thing, man, like youtube's cool about copyright stuff. Most of the time, like I'll do it accidentally, not knowing I have something that's copywritten and they'll they just will block it and so you can take it down. It doesn't count as a strike against you, which I think that's fair. That's how it should be.
Speaker 1:Most of the time where I get copyright strikes is the music, because I always try to put music to the the shorts right and when I put the music to the shorts, sometimes it's a song and it passes all my checks because I the thing I used to edit has like a copyright check. So I'll run it through there and it tells me yep, it's good to go, but then it gets on youtube and youtube's like no, but it's good on everything else. So youtube's really strict on copyright for sure. But we you know, I've been I use clapper. So if you guys are like the fuck is clapper? It's supposed to be the replacement for um, it's the replacement for tiktok, but it really hasn't come to fruition um, I just don't know that they did a good job on that name, though I know, I know, uh.
Speaker 1:Chaplainplain Campbell on Instagram said Eric, how can I get a patch for one of my lieutenants LTs? Sir, if you go to ghostpatchcom and just type in 2Cops1Donut in their search, our stuff will pop up and you will see our patches there. If you don't want to do it that way, you can go to our website, 2cops1donutcom, go to our sponsor spot and then you'll find the Ghost Patch link there as well. Instagram Maniac Monty said what are your thoughts on corrections officer? I'm kind of at the point where I'm thinking maybe I should jump over to police. Kind of at the point where I'm thinking maybe I should jump over to police. What has held me back is I feel that I would make a better corrections officer. It depends on what you want to do. I'll put it that way.
Speaker 1:My thoughts on corrections officers is they have a coming to Jesus that's about to hit them. I think there has been too many things going wrong in the corrections world that they are about to undergo major overhaul. That's just the writing on the wall to me. But if police work is what you're looking to do, go be a cop. You just got to figure out what type of police work it is you want to do? Do you want to handle calls? Do you want to get calls for service all the time? If you're a person that wants to shag calls, go be a city cop or maybe even a deputy, but if you're a deputy, you're probably going to be a CEO, first anyway in the jails, and then earn your way out to the street. It looks like our TikTok. Can you still hear me? Yeah, I hear you. I think I have a lag going.
Speaker 3:Yeah you're pausing a little sooner than you had been, so it was like every 10 minutes, and now it's every couple of minutes.
Speaker 1:Too many people are logging in to watch something at the base. Yeah, you're probably right. But yeah, if you want to be a cop man, you've got to figure out what you want to do. If you want to write tickets and be on the freeway all day, go be a state cop. That's what I got for that. I need some two-cops, some two cops, one donut toilet paper for when I sit with hey, come on now.
Speaker 3:You know we were, we were being friends and we were being all nice and um. So there you know. I actually truly believe that you know, especially if you're not going to a big agency or going to a very long FTO slash academy phase, I think you should be forced to go work in a jail world to learn how they talk to you and how they treat you and how they how. You have to learn how to talk to people that are locked up because they'll take advantage of you and you have to learn how to work through that and communicate new skills before you come out on the street, because you need to know how to talk to people. And you've said it a million times, you know we don't the this, this, the this generation of kids coming up. They don't know how to talk to people, santiago.
Speaker 1:He said the base is watching Two Cops One Donut. I don't think that's what's going on. Real men sit when we pee Facts. I will sit to pee if I'm trying to keep the splash silenced. If I'm trying to do a stealth pee Facts, I will sit to pee if I'm trying to keep the splash silenced. If I'm trying to do a stealth pee, so to speak. I need a big fat TCOD hoodie. I know we've talked about that before. Man, I am having connection issues like crazy. I can see it. Maybe we should call it Alan while we're having some connection issues.
Speaker 3:It was fun. I'm glad I saw you log in. It was a good time.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it, man. Yeah, it was a good time. So for everybody out there, one thank you very much for participating. Appreciate that. Two. If you want to help support what we do you guys know me I'm not a big pusher of all this stuff, so I usually save it for the end Please go to our YouTube channel, subscribe us there. Our Instagram Please subscribe there. Those are our two major accounts. If you're a Facebook person, go to Facebook. Go to Ghost Patch. If you want to help us out and get something tangible, you can get our metal badge, our coin or our Velcro rubberized patch and sport that stuff. It is basically 80s graffiti, street graffiti meets Simpsons. That's the style I like and the era I grew up in, so that's what I wanted. But for the rest of y'all, thank you for joining in. Thanks for being on, jim Minor. He's like I just signed on. Been a few weeks. What did you pin on your chest? They're looking at your badge there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why I was holding it up.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got you, yeah, yeah, yeah. Magdump said that Riverside County, California, Sheriff deputies do not work at their jail. So yeah, it does vary at your sheriff's departments, at your sheriff's departments, but, man, it just yeah. To that person that was asking, I would love to tell you to figure out what it is you're interested in and then decide how to deal with it. David Fitboost on Instagram said how do you emotionally process putting your life on the line to help someone only to have them spew vitriol afterwards? I just I don't take it personal. I doesn't matter if you hate cops. You love cops. For me, I'm just going to do what's right. If I feel it's right, I'm going to go do it. It's really how I deal with it.
Speaker 3:You have to have your mind right when you go into it. If you're doing it for the right reasons, it doesn't matter what somebody says about you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the emotional intelligence side. I'm very comfortable with who I am and why I do what I do. It doesn't matter what you say. I love being a cop and I would call an era right now that being a cop is not a popular thing. I know a lot of cops that don't even tell other people they don't know that they're cops. Or I go around bragging about it because I love it. I think it's fun. Andy Fletcher hit the like button. My man, my man, appreciate it, think it's fun. Andy fletcher hit the like button. My man, my man, appreciate it guys. So, all right, I've got nothing else. I think we're out. We're rated. An hour and a half. That was a pretty good, good time. You know what I think? Was it that second video camera that maybe slowed us down?
Speaker 1:yeah, maybe that might have caused some of the lag that we were getting, because now you've calmed down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say it seems to be running smoother now, doesn't it? Yep? So Nina Sandra said I love LEOs, us military brat Respect. Too many bad cops are pissing off the public Agreed, agreed. But that's why we're trying to counter it with good cops. That's what we're doing, but all right, guys, I got nothing else. Everybody. Thank you for tuning in, thank you for the memberships and the donations on YouTube, all my YouTube people. Thank you for taking part, and everybody else. Have a good night.
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