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Cops Talk First Amendment Auditors
Previous LiveSTREAM recording. We explore the complex world of First Amendment auditors and their interactions with law enforcement, diving into constitutional protections, police training gaps, and what happens when these worlds collide.
• First Amendment auditors expose training deficiencies in police departments nationwide
• Supreme Court has ruled that gestures like middle fingers directed at police are protected speech
• Traditional public forums like town halls and post offices have specific rules regarding filming
• Both sides need education – police on constitutional rights and some auditors on constructive approaches
• The motivation of auditors varies from education and accountability to potential monetary settlements
• Post offices have unique jurisdiction issues as federal property that many officers don't understand
• Credit card fraud cases increasingly involve minors who face reduced consequences
• Criminals deliberately use children as "patsies" knowing they'll receive lighter sentences
• Criminal trespass from public buildings requires an actual crime, not just discomfort with filming
• Communication and understanding on both sides can prevent unnecessary confrontations
If you encounter law enforcement while exercising your First Amendment rights, remain calm, be respectful, and know that filming in public spaces is protected activity. If you're an officer, remember that citizens have the constitutional right to record in public places, and responding professionally protects both you and your department.
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Speaker 3:Is it me being too loud, or is it you?
Speaker 1:No, it's my YouTube channel. I have to mute it and I can't find it. I don't want to hear my own echo. No, no, no, no. There we go. Okay, now we're good to go. Sorry, y'all um trying to get all this crap worked out looking and there's quite a few already on here going live man yeah is it like it?
Speaker 1:give me a second? I am, I'm working off a little screen, so you got to give me. Have a little patience with me. I am still on my military time y'all, so I am trying to. Thomas Holbrook, are you guys losing your minds already? Yes, we are.
Speaker 2:It didn't take much.
Speaker 1:All right, let me get. I know, let's get back to it. Welcome to Two Cops. One Donut. I'm your host, eric Levine, and with me is my never-behind-the-scenes. I sit with Alan. Not much. How are you buddy?
Speaker 3:So how's the weather in San Antonio?
Speaker 1:The weather in San Antonio is fabulous, I cannot complain. It was a balmy 68 to 72 today. All right, it's lovely. I loved it. It you know what. It was the perfect weather for my retro rifle shirt.
Speaker 3:I've got one on too yeah, I didn't even go outside today.
Speaker 1:You know, don't tell my wife, but retro rifle dropped a new shirt today called um Bare Arms, the right to bare arms, and it's a bear carrying a Gatling gun Like an electric minigun. So I had to buy it. So I bought it, that's what I did.
Speaker 4:You shouldn't have told me that.
Speaker 3:Because now I'm.
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Speaker 3:They have a blue version of it too.
Speaker 1:Rick Smith said I feel detained with this delay. That is the shirt. That's not it. That was blue, I got the brown one.
Speaker 3:The blue one's a polo. I was like, don got the brown one, that's the polo I didn't see the polo.
Speaker 1:The blue one's a polo. Oh okay, I was like don't tell me that I don't like polos. They are also having their spring cleaning.
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Speaker 1:Yep, they're an official sponsor, love having them. And somebody, oh, patrick Truelove, he bought a membership. Let's see Level one. Hey, hey, hey, y'all, yes, even baby face Levine, listen, my man, makeup had to get taken off because of military regulations. I could be one of those guys that's like oh, I need a shaving waiver. Let me go to the doctor and get a doctor to say I have bumps. But that's not in me. By the way, y'all, I took my PT test at 42 years old scored a 96 on my military PT test, so your boy still got it.
Speaker 1:Tonight I am drinking some Smoke Wagon. I hope you all are participating in a little bit of adult beverages while we have fun tonight. Now, typically, what we like to do on here is we like to have some topics to talk about and let people get logged in, kind of see that we're on and bullshitting and see what our audience out there is saying, what they want to talk about, things they want to bring up Me in particular. I got a message tonight and I shared it with our team, our Two Cops, one Donut team. Alan, what did you think of that?
Speaker 3:that I, I, you know I just anymore, I read them with a just uh. I don't really give them the the attention they deserve, maybe sometimes because they're just so far off, and but we generally don't get those on the law enforcement side, and you know, that's what right, I get them.
Speaker 1:I get them, but they're always like um, I don't want to say they're chicken, shit comments. That's not what I mean. What I mean is they're trying to like, feel me out, like, hey man, are you sure you should have posted that one like that makes you know, are you sure you should have done that? Well, in this case I'm not going to say the person's name, and what really disappoints me in the message itself was there was no like hey, what did you mean by this? What did you do? So I posted a video that went pretty viral. I'm saying, on our Instagram, we got nearly 3 million views, I think. On our YouTube, we got nearly a million views on this one video and it isn't anything special. Million views, I think. On our youtube, we got nearly a million views on this one video and it's, it isn't anything special.
Speaker 1:It's a dude that flick, flips off, flicks off. However you guys say it, um, flips off, uh, a police officer. The officer goes and pulls him over. Officer's very cordial, he's being polite, but he admits to basically illegally stopping the car, saying he pulled him over because he gave him the finger, and then he tries to use this. You know it's an illegal hand signal or whatever. Supreme Court ruled that. That is not a thing Like. That's freedom of speech. They're allowed to do that. You can't be offended as a cop. So if you've seen that video, you guys know which one I'm talking about. We have it pinned on our Instagram just because it was so popular, so I just put it up there. But I'll read the message so you guys can see what I read today.
Speaker 1:That kind of stuck me in the gut a little bit, bro. No way you had to say about the lawsuit at the end of the video with the middle finger. I was with you until you said that, bro, I'm disappointed. Like it actually hurts inside. You fueled the rage, bro. You fueled the hate because of money.
Speaker 1:Now you are giving all the people that think they are right because of fake social media posts that they don't give all the facts of misled officers getting hurt and killed because of that behavior. That's on you now. And even worse, you stabbed your bros in the back. To self-promote. You changed over for a few Instagram likes and views. I sent this to my entire PD and county deputies. Not one supports you. I think a lot of us were with you until that part, you made the job harder. It's not your place to call out and offer money to them. That's why there is such an increase in this behavior. Most of these videos are wrong, but you put the dollar signs on it, you sold out, you did the ultimate betrayal, you broke the blue line and then it goes on to say shocked bro, you never get that trust back again. Blood's on you, seriously, it's on you, so that's like yeah, damn.
Speaker 1:I didn't look at it that way, so let's explore that a little bit. I, at the end of the video, tell the guy hey, your mic just changed sound.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, like you're in a different like all of a sudden it got like real weird sounding. There it goes, it's back Test, test, maybe it's the connection.
Speaker 1:What do you know. I touched the cord a little bit, fixed it, so. So the at the end of the video what I say is you know, enjoy your free lawsuit, because that he I don't really think I'm giving any trade secrets away. It's literally what that guy probably was out there to do. Now, in that, I'm just curious what y'all are thinking out in the crowd there I see Nicole McKendry. We literally had the same thing in Arizona or Arkansas Happened years ago to my old department. We were told exactly what you just said Cops can't be offended. It's also an ego thing too, I believe. I believe you are right. I also think it's an ego thing. Now, as far as blood being on my hands. My response was basically you know, I'm sorry, you felt that way. I wish you would have reached out to me and maybe I could have explained it more. So I'm going to go into a little more detail about exactly what I meant.
Speaker 1:That is a First Amendment, protected right with Supreme Court ruling. Now the ruling I'm actually going to look it up real quick because I can never. It's a Michigan case, Supreme Court ruling on Middlefinger, Michigan. I'll type it in that way. It is a Michigan woman. What's the case? What is the case? What is the case? Finding it? Guys Finding it, Stand by.
Speaker 3:Standing by.
Speaker 1:Stand by. It is Deborah Cruz Goulas. I'm going to type it in Stand by. Stand by. It is Debra Cruz Goulis. I'm going to type it in the chat. Steve Wallace in the house. I always got to say hi, steve. Steve's got the same sign on every time. So it's Debra Cruz-. Goulis, goulias, goulias, goulias, thatoulias, goulias. That's the court case. I'm not sure. I think it's V Menard, maybe. So that's the Supreme Court case on the middle finger towards police officers in traffic.
Speaker 1:And is what it isrison brock fifty dollars oh, snap, oh, and it came with a guy riding a rocket. Thank you, harrison brock. Much appreciated sir. Guys, we still do not know. We still don't know what the deal with the membership thing is. If somebody gifts a few memberships at the beginning, inevitably it cuts it off. We don't know why. I have checked the settings. I just checked the settings again today, not sure why that's going. You're getting a little, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I see it, it's a guy riding a rocket baby. I like that. We show it because the people that are on LinkedIn and other places they don't get to see it.
Speaker 3:That's what. That was the sound it started playing when I pressed it and I was like no turn the sound down, gotcha yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't like the argument that that is not against the thin blue line. That's for First Amendment rights. I'm sorry that they can sue you. Literally that's what they'll do. Some of them, some of the First Amendment auditors that are out there purely for money, and I don't see how that brings any violence towards cops. Matter of fact, I don't know of one case where a first amendment auditor got violent towards a cop.
Speaker 3:I've never seen that usually they all just go silently and they're you know is they're not baiting you. I don't want to say it that way, but they're testing your abilities and your knowledge oh no, they're baiting you.
Speaker 1:No, they're baiting you. Even Long Island. Audit all those guys. They're not there hoping nothing happens. I wasn't trying to rile them up.
Speaker 3:I was trying to use kinder gentler words.
Speaker 1:They need the conflict to happen Now. Where they're going to be done, where their mission is over, is when cops just don't do anything about it anymore because the training has finally been given, they finally understand. But there are still cops that fall for it 2025. They still fucking fall for it. Which is crazy. Listen all my cop friends that are out there. Public library, public, what is it? The mail room?
Speaker 6:Post office.
Speaker 1:At the post office that's another popular one. Outside of banks, on a public sidewalk In the park, at a soccer game, like all these places. They can film. So you need to understand. Don't put that up. Michelle quit. Agreeing with Alan. Yes, I call my mom by her first name all the time. What shotguns and tattoos say here? I made a fake account. I made a fake linkedin account for the one time youtube spent. Love it, love it. That's all that's actually really. That's good commitment. That that is that. That hits me in the heart.
Speaker 3:that's very humbling I'm so going to our. Yeah, I was trying to click on it. Would you quit clicking on it?
Speaker 1:golly well, I want to see people's comments too he was.
Speaker 3:So where is tim at tim's hiding?
Speaker 1:yeah, tim is hiding, but you can't bait good cops. Yeah, you can't, you can't. And and here, guys, I also want to put this out there and some of you are not going to like it, but some of these cops are good cops that fall for it. They don't. You're only as good as your training. And here's another thing that I like to point out. It's just because the Constitution says something. What it says and how you practice it in real life.
Speaker 1:It's a hard transition. It's a translation sometimes, because it doesn't say in the Constitution that you have the right to pick up a video camera and start carrying it around. You have to translate that. It's like any law. That's why we have courts, because none of us can seem to translate law properly. There's always somebody that has to make a judgment. That's where these judges come from. Guys also understand. I am on a slow connection, so I am doing the best that I can. Where I'm at, I'm on Wi-Fi, so I apologize, so disrespectful Eric. Anthony, I'm not squirrel hunting with you anymore. Yeah, my mom was staying with me when I had to drop some assassinations on some squirrels.
Speaker 1:They were destroying my home Did you ever figure out what that big?
Speaker 3:old hole was. That was a squirrel.
Speaker 1:Isn't that crazy? Yeah, we had a huge hole in my house that ripped metal apart and you would have thought a badger or a bear or something broke in my house. It was a squirrel, wow. So let's see, patrick Truelove, not as good as your training. It's called self-control. Yeah, training, training is is huge. That goes. That goes really far into what we're talking about and I I'm not asking you guys to. I'm not trying to cop splainplain. I promise you I'm not trying to cop-splain here. But if you guys see me freezing in and out, it's my connection. I apologize. We're trying to make do while I'm on my military time here, but I'm not trying to cop-splain.
Speaker 1:The point that I'm trying to get to is translating what you've learned in the books and in practice. They don't always go as easily as you'd think. It's no different than when you see some of these media guys go through police shoot-no-shoot scenario training and they come out and they're like, oh shit, that was so hard. They end up shooting everybody on every scenario. You're like, see, it's not as easy as you think In your head. You got it worked out. As easy as you think in your head, you got it worked out. But when you're out there. In practice it's just different. So if your training is crappy and you don't have a good grasp on the constitution, as it is like these are all parts and parcels of the the training issues, especially if you got one police Academy that's six weeks and then, like my academy, eight and a half months.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a huge difference. Well, in my department, it's not that we don't get training, we don't have time, for you know, we have three officers on a shift, and when somebody's sick or somebody's on vacation, it's just hard to get people to training. And so then you got to trust them that they pay attention to online training, which you know that's only as good as the person that's sitting behind the computer, and so so to MagDump's comment.
Speaker 1:Eric, come on, it's been established law for 20 years. Every one of them should know in this day and age. Okay, fair. Now look at some of the towns they're doing this in. They've never even seen a First Amendment auditor. They read that law when they went through the academy and they haven't touched it since.
Speaker 1:Did you know in the state of Texas, that you cannot paint your chickens unnatural colors? Did you know you can't have seven or more sex toys in your vehicle? I did not know that one. These are obscure laws that I for some reason have retained, but if you never run across that, you don't know that law. You may have touched on it in the academy, but you don't remember that shit. And it's the same. I think I'm just spitballing here, but I think in some of these small departments where they don't run across jack shit, they haven't had a robbery in their city in two years, three years. The worst thing that they have is mrs smith's garbage can blew over in the neighbor's yard, like that is some of the things that you're seeing. That is the part of the problem. It's just the vast differences in training, money and stuff that goes into each, and I think it is.
Speaker 3:I've been spending a lot of time in different parts of the country, andy, and it's different depending on where you are in the country to like. There's a big difference in some of the legalese. When I've been in Arizona a lot lately, it's amazing how much there's. I mean, we have a lot of the same laws and when it comes to guns and things like that, but there's a lot of differences too, and so what you expect to be clear and cut in one part of the country is not that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Andy Fletcher, in Maryland you can't whistle underwater. That's hilarious, Mr Billfold in the house. Oh shit, no guys, that is not Father Time. That is the one and the only Tim.
Speaker 7:How's it going? What's up?
Speaker 1:buddy. Oh, living the dream, sir. So here's one of the things that you can aspire to. On 2Cops1Donut, you can be part of the crowd and also participate in the show. So we have invited many a troll, we've invited many guests, we've invited many uh people in the comment section. Hey, if you get a mic and you get a camera, you've got the opportunity to be on the show. So, first person that's ever pulled the trigger on that, no, no pun intended.
Speaker 7:Tim, what's up, buddy, Getting everything set up, trying to get all the green screen stuff set up. I probably could have just flipped on my phone and done the same thing. I just wanted to be on here just to chat with you guys and give you a little bit of my knowledge from what I've learned over the last six years after retiring.
Speaker 1:Living the dream brother, Mr Bill.
Speaker 7:Fold, so living the dream brother, mr bill folds on. He said I fell asleep. Typical, typical marine on post. See, I gotta watch.
Speaker 1:Keep it on the stream, because you got like 15 seconds of lag time behind on the stream right to what we're doing yes so yep, yep, it's, it's a little different, you, if you're looking at the restream screen, that is, yeah, I think quick, but it it does take a minute. So duck ninja. Dad said uh, tim beard, god well you're.
Speaker 7:You got another half of it. You gotta, you gotta, stretch some more.
Speaker 1:So there we go hey listen, what did you guys expect? Father time? I think I love santa claus a lot. Hey, listen, what did you guys expect? Father.
Speaker 7:Time to look like. I get called Santa Claus a lot. I don't think you're thick enough. I'm down weight a little bit. I only weigh about 240 pounds.
Speaker 6:Are you?
Speaker 7:240?.
Speaker 1:Oh you, a big dude, though. That's a man size right there, I'm not that I'm not there so tim, before we get to videos and stuff, what this is. This is a first for us. So what is it that's been on your mind? As far as policing goes, what's the good, the bad, the ugly? What do you want to discuss that you think us on the panel maybe not have addressed, or you want to. You just want to have a conversation about, whatever.
Speaker 7:It is one thing that I've noticed a lot of stuff we do that you guys have done on the thing and I know that later on you want to have other guests on here, like long island audit, and I'd love to get Chili Castro on here. He would be a riot, I think. But I don't do auditing now, but I've kept up with it for the last six years and doing it way back when Gavin Sime was doing it before he took off to Mexico and had to leave for Mexico. I used to do it a long time ago and I just got into it. What have you guys talked about?
Speaker 7:As far as it, we really haven't jumped into the first amendment audit scene. As far as on your guys channel a lot, um, okay, give it, you'll probably have an episode or two of doing that. That'd be cool to see. Uh, that's what I specialize in as a first member audits and I've learned a lot of law and taking a lot of classes to learn you know, to learn what I do know, and plus, you know watching videos and Google's free. The universities are free, so, um right.
Speaker 7:But back what you were saying with the good and the bad. Uh, the good is you guys, I've seen a lot of change. Uh, you guys weren't've seen a lot of change. You guys weren't around you, matt Alan Banning, you guys weren't there five, six years ago when all this whole, I'd say about six years ago, when all this auditing stuff kicked in.
Speaker 1:Well, no, sir, I was there, I was in the streets actually, you know, sean paul made it big right, right, that's the long island auditor I was wondering then the cops started showing up, like you and matt, and started saying you know what?
Speaker 7:these auditors are right, but yet, like you guys said earlier, there, these auditors are right, but yet, like you guys said earlier, there's some auditors that, god, I do not need to be auditing. They're just complete idiots and I'm just like yeah.
Speaker 1:Country girl.
Speaker 3:What's she say? I personally love Beards. It's only on men, though, oh yeah.
Speaker 7:But back to what you were saying earlier about baiting cops. It's true they bait cops and the reason I say the word bait is because no one has an issue when you guys used to have the show on called Bait Car. No one had an issue about cops called bait car. No one had an issue about cops. But when you look back into it it's basically yeah, you're baiting, the only bad ones are going to get the bait.
Speaker 1:They're going to get caught and I, yeah, they've made cops, I've 100 but okay, yeah, yeah I I don't get me started on bait cars in general. I'm a big fan of bait cars in areas that make sense. I am not a big fan of bait cars in hard to do, low. You know economic class areas where you're getting a bunch of homeless people know economic class areas where you're getting a bunch of homeless people and and other people that are at the end of the rope. They've got, they got nothing to lose. They're like, fuck it, this car looks like a good opportunity. Let me go over there and that's the person you want to put in jail. What are how? Are we serving the system at all? In that case? I I really am not a big fan. Oh, you got a pro mic.
Speaker 1:Look at you, brother, green screen. Yeah, so I am not a fan of bait cars. I'm a fan if you use them appropriately, like put them in a nice area and you catch you know shitheads getting into it. Then that are you know case and area Like that's what we're looking for, because those tend to be more violent. But when you're getting homeless people and you're getting you know dope addicts that are just trying to find their next fix, like I, I'm not a fan of that. So it's me, it's probably alan, alan, everything that goes wrong with this show is alan's, but bill is going to mr bill foale is going to kill me. So I can't say that if it goes wrong with this show is Allen's, but Bill is going to Mr Bill Foles is going to kill me. So I can't say that If it goes wrong it's Allen, but as far as First Amendment auditors go, I do like them.
Speaker 1:There are some I can't stand, and there's yeah, there's one in the one in New York, have you?
Speaker 7:heard that dude One in New York. He's so aggressive I wish I knew his name. I don't know his name. He's so aggressive. There are aggressive ones that are borderline dude. Stop, just stop, you know. But yeah. In the end. I don't know of any other way that's legal, easier and a way to catch bad cops. I mean, there's no, I don't know of any other legal way to do it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah. Now I'll kind of if I've never made my stance clear before on the First Amendment, auditors. I think that they showed a clear gap in police training. I think that they exposed something that we as police were not aware of and it was something that we hadn't faced before. It's no different than getting the concept of getting body cameras, the concept of getting dash cameras We'll go back to Rodney King, that's when dash cameras kicked off so it was a concept that cops had just not been trained at, they hadn't been exposed to, and, just like anybody, we hate change.
Speaker 1:So, when these First Amendment orders started coming out. They really exposed our lack of knowledge on the law and me I'm the type of guy I look for gaps in training. So I was like, oh man, this is huge, like there's, there's something to this and I I'm pretty sure they're right, Let me dig into it. So then I start doing my homework and I'm like, okay, yeah, they're right, like they have a right to film. So now where's the problems? So then I started looking into where can they film, where can they not film things of that nature? What's off limits, what's on limits? Like filming a cop's MDC, their in-car computer it's legal.
Speaker 1:If you would have asked me what it's legal, but if you would have asked me when this stuff first started, I wouldn't have known the answer and would have assumed that's illegal. But I had to find the training, I had to get educated on it, because I didn't know. That doesn't mean I'm going to go arrest somebody for it. It just means like, hey, if I'm going to stop this guy, I need to be sure that I have an actual crime here. So I started to do research and dig into that part. Yes, they can film your computers. They can film anywhere they want, as long as they're on public property. Now, tim, here's where I really want to pick your brain.
Speaker 7:I like what he wrote on there.
Speaker 1:No, matt banning yeah, yeah, they needed a spare tire man.
Speaker 7:No banning, just picked me out of the back of the truck.
Speaker 1:Yep, so I'll tell you what happened. Matt had a date with the wife, banning had a date with the wife. Mosley couldn't get a babysitter, aka AKA. He had to be a dad tonight because he's got a baby baby. And Kat I don't remember what Kat said For some reason she couldn't make it tonight. I thought maybe she was going to make it tonight and then maybe something came up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought she said she was going to, and then I think she said something came up, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we'll make an excuse for her.
Speaker 1:She can do what she wants, and I'm used to doing this alone. I've done it alone for a long time, but we got Alan. I sit with Alan. Here's where I want to pick your brain, tim, because I am not the most educated on this side of the house. My understanding in Texas because I have witnessed it and I have seen it Town hall, for instance.
Speaker 1:There have been instances where we have had to remove people from town hall. They were asked to leave, told they couldn't be there because they were causing you know a scene and doing all that stuff at the town hall and they got literally trespassed from the location. So I have seen and heard of other people going to the courts, going to the post office that's another one where they were trying to do the First Amendment, auditing stuff. They created a disturbance of some sort. It wasn't that they were just filming, either way. The post office called the cops, said they got to leave and they refused. So they got criminally trespassed and taken off property. Now my understanding of the law is yes, they have the right to film, they can do all that.
Speaker 1:However, where the cops are stuck between a rock and a hard place is if a person that is acting as the agent of the facility. So let's say the manager tells the cops that person has to go. They don't have to give the cops a reason, they just say that person has to go. And the cop is stuck because that person is the person that is in charge of that facility. So you tell them hey, they said you got to go.
Speaker 1:They're going to ask for a reason. We don't have a reason to give them, because they just said no, you got to go. And then we tell them you got to go, are you going to get criminally trespassed? And then that's where the argument begins. And then you end up having to arrest them because they're setting up their lawsuit against the post office because the post office worker was wrong but the cop wasn't. Because the cop is only acting on what the law is for criminal trespass when the person that owns the building tells you you gotta go and or is acting as the owner you have to leave. So what is my?
Speaker 7:understanding is basically what the actual federal law states on it and I've looked this up and I've talked with a lot of argued people on tiktok about this. First of all, the did you know the post office is technically federal but it's its own private business yes, it's, it's actually like it's uh, what do they call it?
Speaker 1:concurrent jurisdictions. It's like but.
Speaker 7:But it falls under federal at the same time now correct.
Speaker 7:Also, it also depends on the department of where you're at, what city, what state, what county, whatever bs underneath it that the federal government, that post office, has to have a contract with the current area of the police department, the sheriff's department or a local police department, to be able to enforce laws on post office property. So that means if the post office calls the police, if that police department doesn't have a contract with that post office, they are basically out of their jurisdiction. They have to call a federal officer or a federal, what they call anybody like they can literally call an air marshal because they're federal. Yeah, usually it's. It's the sheriff's department, because sheriff's departments will hold contracts throughout the whole county and it's tax funded. Normally you can't be trespassed without a crime. If it's like, say, we go into a what do you call it? A city hall and you're in there and you're already passing security.
Speaker 7:You ain't got a gun on you and you're just filming. You're not causing a disturbance. Normally you have to commit a crime, to be trespassed from public property and that then you get into all sorts of stuff. Well, time and place, and then you got into. Uh, it gets very tricky because you have what they call um on my side or on this side of it. Um, I'm trying to think of the word for it. You guys will do it. It's the um. See, I'm on the spot here.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think of the words um, oh, you're, fine buddy, no worries oh, what the hell.
Speaker 7:Um, what good jeff gray goes. Jeff gray goes where it's uh a time and place, basically the place where you're at. I'm trying to think of the word to that. You got me all flustered now. Um, hey, yeah, you look gorgeous while you're flustered, uh yeah I forgot the name of what it's called. Somebody in the comments should know this. Um yeah, I can't remember what the name's called. Sorry, I just blanked out on that.
Speaker 1:Um yeah, um, this is this is not true by the way. Uh, acorn, he said. Not only that officer is, if they do not have an agreement with the po, they're in violation of having a firearm and a postal property. That's not. Yeah, cops can have a firearm pretty much anywhere they cops can have a firearm throughout the state that they're certified in. That's on both federal and state. So just so you guys know. Oh, what do they call that? I'm still thinking. I'll think of it in a second.
Speaker 7:It's basically time, place, manner restrictions. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:There you go. I had the night, helped you.
Speaker 7:Traditional public forum that's what it's called. There you go Mag. Go either night. Helped you. Traditional public forum that's what it's called. There you go, mag dump, put it up, hey there you go traditional public forum and there we go if the place is not designated a traditional public forum, then you're basically you got to go right, like town square or town hall.
Speaker 1:Those are traditional public.
Speaker 7:a lot of people I argue with on TikTok. Is they automatically I say a law or I state what's right or what the law is? Oh, I'm a cop hater. I'm automatically a cop hater, it's.
Speaker 5:Yeah, a boot licker.
Speaker 7:But if I say yeah, the boot licker.
Speaker 1:That's the other side.
Speaker 7:It's just what's wrong with just stating the law that's what. I'm trying to grow my channel with Just state the law, stay neutral and be done with it, so I don't remember your question when you first started. What do I think about when they go into?
Speaker 1:So I was basically trying to get what your understanding is when it comes to the criminal trespass in places like town hall, the post office, public library, because those seem to be the most popular spots that the auditors like to try to test police.
Speaker 7:They're in a public place like that and I try it's traditional public forum and it's marked as a traditional public forum.
Speaker 1:They have to commit a crime for you guys to be able to trespass them legally, I mean now, right, and and that's where I'm saying my understanding, and again I'll tell you I'm not the most educated person on this. I can only tell you what I've seen in practice and what I've been told from prosecutors and stuff like that is the person, let's say the public library they call us, hey, this guy's got to go. And this actually happens quite a bit with homeless people.
Speaker 1:They're in there and they're being inappropriate on the computers and yes, and they're like this guy's got to go and I'm like, all right, I don't ask any questions because it's they're in charge of the facility. It's no different, in my opinion. What if there was a family emergency and all that is at the library is the one employee? They're like I got to close up, I can't leave this place unsecure. I got to go. All these people need to leave. Are you telling me that this person no longer has the right to tell you you have to? You can't that, you can leave. No, you absolutely have to go. So it's this, it's the same thing. Oh, shotgun and tattoos. Shiba dog squeezing a big red heart. I see, I love that. It just makes up random shit. Thank you very much. Shotguns and tattoos very much appreciated Every time you guys donate you directly help the channel.
Speaker 1:Alan has single-handedly gotten rich. He takes all the money from it and he buys retro rifle shirts. I can't stop him. He's in control of everything. But to my point that's the point that I'm trying to get to there is a person that's ultimately in charge of the facility and then that person can they tell you that you got to go Now. Here's where the lawsuit side can come in. They could be making up some whatever. That's not for the cop to determine. The cop can only go off what that facility leader manager tells them. And if they tell you that person's got to go now, they're going to have an easy lawsuit. Hey, they kicked me out because I was filming. Well, how can you prove that?
Speaker 7:I filmed my entire interaction and at no time was I a disturbance yeah, that's very easy that's the thing about cameras, why they're all in there, plus that's why, I don't like auditors that go into buildings. They go into public buildings and go into places like that, because you're getting into more and more problems when it comes to if you want to get a lawsuit out of it or if you're just doing it to teach people.
Speaker 7:And to me it's just not worth it. Stay on a public sidewalk in a public view, where you can be seen by anybody and everybody Do your audit. If you get a cop come up to get you, just tell you do your normal audit and be done with it yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1:Now I gotta read shotgun and tattoos to comment. You gotta keep alan and zimas in malibu. I like it. Um, sigma lord has a good comment here, though logic and reasoning on both sides must dictate our outcomes, and this is where I am a hundred percent in like for me, if I get somebody at the post office and they're videoing and they're doing their First Amendment audit thing, I can read between the lines. I know what's going on. I know more than likely they are not causing a disturbance. What's up? Look at that hair, holy cow.
Speaker 3:That's him every day. When you have cow licks like your dad, you've got to have it.
Speaker 1:You've just got to work with it.
Speaker 3:Say hi Tripp.
Speaker 7:Hi, what's?
Speaker 1:up buddy.
Speaker 7:I don't put your hair up like that after the meeting.
Speaker 1:Right. So for me, going along with Sigma's comment, it is my job as a cop, hopefully, to educate on both sides in a way. Hey to the manager like you're setting yourself up, this guy's doing this intentionally to see if you know what the laws are. He is legally within his rights. So if you tell me he's a disturbance, just understand. He's recorded the whole thing and he's going to hammer your ass in a lawsuit. That's my job as a cop.
Speaker 1:This is where the communication side goes with policing. So if you're a cop out there and you're like I can't be bothered with this, call this is the shit you need to do. So this is where I challenge y'all what the hell is that? Who wrote that? Did you write that, alan? Yeah, I was like I didn't fucking write that. It was me, okay. Patrick True Love said Disagree, tim. Public buildings are good because they are public officials and they need to be held accountable for their bad actions as well, not just audit the cops well, like I said it's, you're going to have people that work there coming out too.
Speaker 7:I've seen it. They're going to come out and wonder what's going on. And yeah, like I said, that's just my opinion. I don't like auditors that go into public buildings. I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm not saying that there isn't a chance that you can do it and do your audit in there. I just don't agree with it. My personal self. Oh, I see what you're saying To me it just leads into more and more BS. If you're trying to get a lawsuit out of it, If you're trying to get a lawsuit out of it.
Speaker 7:It's not my problem. I can't stop them from doing that.
Speaker 1:You're just trying to do it for youtube views. That's not my problem. I you're more about the mission than I'm more about the mission.
Speaker 7:I'm more about holding government accountable, the mission of educating police and citizens on the law, what's happening, and trying to bridge that gap between the them bus versus us mentality gotcha.
Speaker 1:that makes sense. Uh, ryan lemay this is kind of off topic, but I like that. He dropped it. I must have talked about this, I just don't remember. He said a while back you were talking about a drop holster with a built-in tourniquet. One option is alien gear tack strap. You can add a second leg hooked to belt as well. Usa made Good shit. Thanks, buddy, I like that. Anything that can help save a life, I'm all for it. Aeds that's another one guys. Huge fan of AEDs. Oh, the smoke wagons. Give me a little. Auditors like to file very few lawsuits.
Speaker 7:Oh, yeah, yeah they don't file many lawsuits, right? Yeah, they go.
Speaker 1:Well, most of the time they don't need lawsuits. They don't file many lawsuits, right, most of the time they don't need to, they get a settlement immediately. That's the other thing that people don't consider. With departments, there is no lawsuit because they just get a quick settlement, because the department is like yep, we fucked up, we'll give you $30,000, $50,000 $5,000 or $6,000 just going in.
Speaker 1:Because it's cheaper for the department. In the long run too, they just settle. So that's why I say there's some that are in it for the mission and some that, like the dude that I was talking about that video earlier. I guarantee he was just looking for a quick settlement.
Speaker 7:Just the vibe I got from that guy, those kind of auditors. I can't stop them. I can't stop them. If they want to go get a lawsuit, go try it bud. But I don't agree with doing it for a lawsuit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my stance on any videos that we see. What can I learn from it? How can we improve Across the board? It doesn't have to be the cops, it can be the citizens too. What did we learn from it? How can we improve? If you guys want to know the formula to my show, that's it. What can we learn from it? How can we improve? Every single time when I get a video, when you guys send me stuff, that's what I do Quick shout out to the sponsors. We've got to break this down every so often.
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Speaker 1:Anyway, uh-oh, what did Mr Billfold say? Here? I see something about Jesus. Jesus went to the sinners. Auditors have to go to the ignorant. I like it, he ain't wrong. He ain't wrong, I like it. Look, we're going to have to change his name. He's no longer going to be Mr Billfold. He's going to have to change his name. He's no longer going to be Mr Billfold, he's going to have to be the preacher. Preacher B. Preacher B right. Preacher B in the house Church. Take him to church. Preacher B.
Speaker 7:Watch him not even be a preacher or like any of that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know he's like I'm not even religious. I made this man Right. Well, he is a Marine, so I know he works for the Marines.
Speaker 3:That makes it funnier, though in my opinion that just makes the joke better. Right Sigma Lord.
Speaker 1:I have the full videos to go over with you and break down, but I feel like someone is going to give, it's going to have to need a heads up on your end to help structure a presentation of multiple hours of body worn camera. Yes, that would definitely take. That's the problem, guys, is time and and effort on some of this stuff. Some of y'all send me videos and I'm just like I. You guys gotta understand. Mr billfold alone sends me 25 videos every 20 minutes. So, um, he gets himself all hyped up, he gets pissed off and then he rants at me and then we talk it out. He's like you fucker, I do not. No, he sends me a couple videos here and there. I'm just giving him shit because he's my boy now, uh, either night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unfortunately the bad cops city workers, officials don't really get held accountable. The citizens pay for them. I don't agree with that fully. In some cases, yeah, I don't think they get held accountable, but in other cases, sometimes they just get hammered Like, I think, overly hammered, you know, and it's just like what do you do? You're fine, go to town, baby.
Speaker 7:You're allowed to drink online, I don't know what you're allowed to do with these.
Speaker 1:Do what you gotta do, brother. I never heard anything.
Speaker 7:Well, I'm a smoker too, so I would be smoking cigarettes, but I can't do it now. So I'm stuck with this, so would be smoking cigarettes, but I can't do it now, so, oh, I'm stuck with this.
Speaker 1:I'm stuck with this, so I won't say this word out loud, I don't want to get flagged, but you guys can read oh my god, you guys are out of control today. Uh, what did he say? Oh, dang it. Uh, he said I do shit all over Eric's inbox, I take advantage and I'm ashamed.
Speaker 7:Makes you wonder what he's had to do for a Klondike bar.
Speaker 1:I know right, trust me, you would think he's like Madonna's preacher and some of the stuff I make him send me Like. If you want me to look at this video. You know what daddy needs to see.
Speaker 7:I have a lot of stuff I can send you guys. I just don't like to bug you.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, here's the thing, guys, I want you all to understand. We have actually reached a point where I just can't respond to a lot of stuff anymore which is cool.
Speaker 1:It's a good problem to have, don't get me wrong, but I feel bad. I am the type of person I think what makes our platform so good is the fact that we take the time out to answer as much as we can all the time. That comment that that guy sent me in my inbox I still responded. I'm trying to tell you guys I think that's what makes us unique is that we still try to answer these questions. Signal Lord. This is personal experience. So you get the call 911 body, one camera, the correct timeline of events and full narration. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 7:Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Let me see here, off topic, from G Eric, what's your stance on pit maneuvers? Personally, I think it is better than chasing someone to extended periods of time puts more risk on the state. It's like a lot of things. It's like pepper spray. I'm usually not a fan of it unless it's the right conditions. So it's the same with the pit maneuver If you've got a guy. I've seen chases that have went to the ends of the earth and it could have been ended in several different places much earlier and because it was allowed to get dragged out, when it finally came to an end, it was tragedy. And you're like, damn, we could have stopped it way back here. We could have stopped it back here, could have stopped it back here. So it's time and place. Um, I'm gonna harass alan now, there you go. That's what I'm talking about. Harass Alan now, there you go. That's what I'm talking about Harass the shit out of him.
Speaker 1:I knew I saw a good one. Tim, I would take my dentures out and gum you for a con day. That's a Marine. That is a Marine I have some crayons.
Speaker 1:See, that's why you give him some crayons, he'll be happy. Andy Fletcher, I get to fuming and a half to take breaks from watching too many. Yeah, between Andy and Mr Billfold, I do think they are the ones that get the most emotionally revved up sometimes on their videos. And listen, I can be your dumping ground. You guys can take your frustrations out on me. I will gladly try to talk you off the edge best I can. Freeman Key said hola, mr B Glad Freeman's in the house. Harrison Brock said when are we getting the Discord server? We're trying to get it going. Part of the problem is my military time came up. We're trying to get some of these sponsors to come through with their financial help so we can actually put money towards this stuff. So that's all that's holding us up. We actually have, thanks to Tim, actually helped us out on that. We actually have a channel, just haven't really hashed that out.
Speaker 7:yet there's nothing in there, right now.
Speaker 1:There's no structure to it.
Speaker 7:Yeah, there's no structure and he's been busy and I'm just sitting on the sidelines saying when you get time, bud, and right now, as you can see, he's doing his military thing. Yeah, bud, and right now, as you can see, he's doing his military thing and yeah, yeah you can see as you make fun of my baby face when he becomes a man again and grows his beard back. Well, hey, hey, can you send me some?
Speaker 1:send me some uh beard shed and I'll I'll start pasting it on here, just so, here's the beard balm for you.
Speaker 3:Just start doing that they've got to show that the rules, we, we, they got a sponsor first. Come on now, oh yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep y'all in line, right?
Speaker 7:yeah, yeah, the guy in the background well that's what I'm here for I have a local company here in town that gets my beard oil Really A local bookstore and his wife makes beard balm and beard oil.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I heard she milks the anal glands of duck-billed platypuses for it.
Speaker 7:I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 3:I don't know where this just went.
Speaker 4:I'm going to send us some money.
Speaker 7:I'm going to send us some money. You know, get us to send us some money. I got that.
Speaker 1:Because I heard that's how they got. Vanilla extract Was like from Beavers anal glands. I don't know if that's true, but that's that's what I heard. Country Girl said we had another murder of an inmate by corrections officers near me. Lia is covering it. I don't know what LIA is Long Island Audit oh okay, yeah he's covered another one.
Speaker 1:Now I will say I think that's going to be the next wave of accountability. It's going to be corrections. It is something as a cop cop I'm not exposed to. The best I see is the jail and that's for about 20 minutes. Run in, write your PC affidavit and you get out because they stink, they smell like nasty vomit, so I hate going to the jail nasty vomit, so I hate going to the jail.
Speaker 1:But I think this is my hope not to take eyes off police. I'm not saying it that way, although it does sound that way. So I admit that. But I'm hoping that we can start focusing, cause I had a couple of guys on the show I had um, now I'm blanking out Aaron D Dyson and I had Derek Hamilton. Both were wrongly convicted. They did 20-plus years in prison. Very sad stories, but very awesome stories because they're successful. I plan on having Aaron back on. I actually plan on having Derek back on, but he's a busy man. And then Aaron and I just haven't connected. But my point being the stuff and the tragedies that they told me about while they were in prison tells me that there's a systemic problem. They didn't know each other, they didn't even go to the same prisons. There's a systemic issue going on in corrections off areas that I think they need to be wearing body cameras. They need to be having more transparency and accountability.
Speaker 7:I got something to say on that. I was a CO.
Speaker 1:Go for it, Tim.
Speaker 7:Okay, I was a CO and I'll even tell you where I was a CO. I don't care Anybody ever heard of it's in Putnamville, indiana. It's called the State Farm.
Speaker 1:That does sound familiar.
Speaker 7:Okay. I was a CO there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 7:I was only there about six months, but I'm not going to get into why I left.
Speaker 5:You were a big boy.
Speaker 7:The biggest problem I had there was the other officers.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 7:They were dirty.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 7:You're reaffirming my already suspicion suspected they were dirty. I'm not gonna name names, I'm gonna tell you, but I'll tell you they were dirty one of the oldest state. You know state state facilities and they're dirty out there I mean, they've got no eyes on them.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 7:Literally no cameras. Half the cameras didn't work. Shotguns and tattoos.
Speaker 1:Miss you. Cornelius Big Red. I gave him a nickname very early in his YouTube career here, so old Banning is chiming in from the LinkedIn account.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I just saw him popped up there.
Speaker 1:Well, we are almost at the hour mark, so I want to get to some of our body cam review stuff. Okay, and for those that are new to this, if you've never heard what we do, we watch body cam videos and we pretend us Now Tim. Tim gets to play along, even though he's not trained the same way. We are Oof fighting back a burp and we pretend that we are the cops in the video. So you're not, we're not watching the video. And then, monday morning, quarterbacking, we're trying to give you insight on police training, how we break down a call as it develops. So it's kind of a unique look at it. Now, what will be fun because Tim is not a cop is to give him the opportunity to chime in and kind of be like all right, well, this is kind of how I look at it, and then we'll tell you our police training. And now that I know you've been a CEO a a little bit, so you might have some good insight we were trained.
Speaker 7:We were trained almost identical to the the first part of it, as state troopers were trained we had to take all the same courses. We had to take ceo classes, uh, oc classes, sorry, uh, we had to take oc classes. We had to do all the training on holds, the whole.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, yeah, cuffing everybody how to do it, how training on holds the whole cuffing everybody.
Speaker 7:how to do it, how to make sure you're safety first. We had to do all that training, take psychological classes, everything, but we just didn't have arresting powers.
Speaker 1:I think Mr Billfold is finally seeing the light. Now you see where I'm coming from. Alan is a fucking train wreck and he's constantly screwing up. Right now he's wrangling his dog is my guest do I need to quit like that there? We go, he is listening. Damn it, I got caught. I was trying to talk shit. He said alan, you typoed your own email address.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Alan was taken, so A-Law when you're a police officer is the next best thing.
Speaker 1:Eye of the night. You, son of a bitch, take Eric's opinion with a grain of salt, ladies and gents. He's chair force after all, kind of like having a handicap in golf, you know what. Listen, because y'all weren't smart enough to score high on your ASVAB and get in the Air Force doesn't mean you got to take that out on me. All right, sons of bitches. Andy, how dare you laugh at that, don't you? Even he's eating all the donuts, all right, so I'm going to let. Oh, they're playing TAPS right now. It must be nine. Yep, I can hear it. That's one thing If you guys have never been on a military base. They play the National Anthem at 5.30. They play Taps at 9 pm. They play Reveille in the morning. When you're waking up, I think that's at like 7, 7 am, something like that. No, I actually think it's earlier than that. I don't know. I tune it out. So, anyway, alan, what do we got tonight? Buddy, where are we? Where are we looking at? What youtube channels are we using?
Speaker 3:uh, right now we're at code blue, so we don't have very many from code blue, uh or no, we are uh code blue. Cam is the first two.
Speaker 1:Okay so shout, so shout out to Code Blue Cam on YouTube. We're using their videos. Tonight. I think we're probably using some police activity here. We are Videos from YouTube as well. So, guys, this is your part to ask questions. Throw your input out there and we'll go back and forth on all that stuff. Perry Lemley in the house. What's up, perry? Always like seeing my LinkedIn guys jump on our YouTube channel. So on you, mr.
Speaker 2:Exceeding $200. Shortly after, a woman called the store to report fraudulent use of her credit card after receiving a bank alert about an unauthorized transaction at Dairy Queen. Moments after the phone call, three individuals transaction at Dairy Queen. Moments after the phone call, three individuals entered the Dairy Queen. One of them, later identified as 17-year-old Shamar, was wearing a mask and presented his phone displaying the online order. However, the store refused to hand over the food, choosing to wait for the police to arrive. Shamar and the Well good for them.
Speaker 1:That is not a normal behavior from young people working at facilities like this. Most of the time, they don't want no smoke, they don't raise any questions anymore and they just let it happen. So you're muted, alan. Right now what we have- $233 at Dairy Queen. Yeah, okay, that's a good point. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3:That's all I noticed. I was like that's a lot of blizzard. Who are you feeding?
Speaker 7:That's like seven meals.
Speaker 1:Right, okay. So, tim, I want to get Tim's perspective. Now, you know you're going to a call where you have this is a felony, because they're using credit card fraud. So knowing it's a felony, but knowing it's a, you know it's not a violent felony, not. Yet You're going to go show up to this location where you've got known felons on scene. So what's your mentality like when you're going into a call like this?
Speaker 7:Well, first of all, somebody that's willing to commit a felony has more than likely I would give it a percentage, probably about 70% has committed a felony before.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 7:Not knowing what kind of felony they committed, for Someone just doesn't, out of the blue, commit a felony. You know they do, but you know it, you just got to, you know, you got to know if they, if the person has, is, you know it's a felony. They're just, they committed a felony before you got to come up with that. That's the way I'm thinking, so I'm not walking up in there by myself. Anyway, I'm going to have backup.
Speaker 1:Fair, okay, alright.
Speaker 7:Any felony calls you're going to have to bring back up. I don't care if it's nonviolent or violent, it's just that's the way I've as a civilian. I think the cops should be two three deep with any felony.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, I don't disagree with that. So all right, Alan, let's keep going.
Speaker 2:The other two individuals returned to their vehicle unaware that police were nearby observing them as Dairy Queen employees exited the store and pointed toward their car. The officer trailed them for a short distance before deciding to initiate a traffic stop.
Speaker 1:All right pause it, okay. So for me, I like that tactic. I like that. We didn't cause a scene inside the store with felons. We're going to try to get them on their own. Now here's the risk they flee in the vehicle. Now you've created a chase amongst the public, so there's that. So there's that. Or you think about it the other way, where you create a disturbance inside the Dairy Queen and they're separated One's out of the car, two are in the car. Now you've got divided areas that you've got to cover and secure. That could be a major shitstorm. So I like this approach. They let them all get in the car together, so they've only got to deal with one thing at a time. So I'm okay with that. Um, alan said he's demuted right now because he's got. I think he's dealing with his dog, so no worries, you got anything to add to that tim no okay, it's a pretty good thing to do, get them together yeah, this is pretty fun, isn't it?
Speaker 7:well, like I said, I'm not. Like I said, I would have been a cop a long time ago, but I couldn't pass the physical.
Speaker 1:I got you. They don't let you have those long beards, bro. So Perry Lemley said felony stop time. So in this I don't disagree, I would probably do a felony stop. And for those wondering what a felony stop is, we're going to initiate a traffic stop with lights, maybe sirens, if they don't stop right away, then once they come to a stop, we're going to get out of the car, we're going to have our guns out and we're going to be loud hailing them over the PA. Hey, driver, turn the car off, put the keys out the window, show us your hand, like all of these commands, and we're going to call them out one at a time, and we're going to take each person into custody, um, safely. So, uh, let's go to the comments real quick.
Speaker 1:I want to see if there's, if there's, anything nicole nicole said yeah, don't want them in that car when I don't know what's in the car. Fair Andy said you said a traffic stop. What about PC for that stop? You don't need PC. You've got your people, you've got your felons on view and that's coming from a credible third-party witness. That is enough for the stop, because they were pointed out. You're going to have that witness's name and information. You're to have all of this, so you don't need pc. You've already got it. Now let's keep going. All right, alan, you can keep going I'm 81 with a,500 block of.
Speaker 1:Who wants to bet?
Speaker 2:we're going to get some. However, as Chamar's vehicle came to a halt, one of the passengers suddenly exited and ran for his life. I'm like, no, you're done, put the vehicle in park.
Speaker 8:Stay in the vehicle. Stay in the vehicle. We got one running Eastbound. I'm with the car southbound 65 from Minakee pause, thank you.
Speaker 1:Now, with this, you're probably wondering why didn't he go chasing after him? Because we have to stay with the driver. It's typically how this goes. You stay with the driver no matter what, because they're in care, custody and control of the vehicle, so you stay with the car. Called that out. Now, the thing that I noticed he was running with his hand pinned to his left hip. Did you see that, tim?
Speaker 7:Yeah, I saw that he could be pulling his pants up.
Speaker 1:Can you go back, Alan?
Speaker 7:But that also could be he could have a gun on his hip, yeah.
Speaker 1:My belief is that is consistent with somebody holding a weapon. Pulling the pants up is usually a two-handed event, so there he is, he's got it pinned right there. That's what I was looking at. Doesn't mean I'm right.
Speaker 3:Weird thing about it is, most of the time, just because their pants are always falling off, they don't like like fall all the way down you think they would but they generally don't have to hold them up just because their pants are falling off. They generally are holding something else.
Speaker 7:Um, in my my experience, all right untrained like me and trained like you guys, so you guys have dealt with it a lot more than I have.
Speaker 1:I'm just looking through the comments here. Andy said so it's not really a traffic. I say traffic stop because they're pulling a vehicle over on the street. Andy, get off my nuts, all right, that's fine. We've seen so many that get off because they were pulled over for working tail light and it gets it. All gets thought like yeah, you're not getting tossed on this one. It's going to be the totality of the circumstances. You got called to the dairy queen because they were suspected of passing that fraudulent charge. The guy's wearing a mask, it's a huge amount and when the cops get there they say that's them getting into that vehicle. So it's, it's a matter of reasonable, articulable suspicion. I would say you've got that. So, um, nicole said based on my training experience, I would agree with you, alan.
Speaker 3:So you know. So I've never gotten the opportunity to do it, but I've often wanted and said that. You know the I I worked with a lot of kids and it was like I just wanted to like be behind them and push right there in the middle, you know, and it never worked so yeah, um, charity lamb actually points out another good.
Speaker 1:It could just be contra man that he doesn't want to get caught with.
Speaker 3:But always. Well, generally that's in the underwear and it it doesn't. You know, I mean, most of the times that's where I've found it is. It's stuck in the underwear, in the groin, where we can't you know, where they think we're not going to feel it when we pat them down, in the groin, where they think we're not going to feel it when we pat them down.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, so they're getting hung up on. Listen guys, this is casual conversation. I'm not writing a police report. If I'm writing a police report, all of this is going to be articulated. So I apologize if I didn't come across like I'm putting a case together. So let me put my case together for you.
Speaker 1:I called to the scene of a Dairy Queen where we were checking out three suspects that were identified by Dairy Queen as possibly passing a fraudulent credit card charge. As we arrived the scene, the Dairy Queen employee was communicating with me actively on the phone and we had them make an exit strategy out the back. Where we arrived and they identified the suspect vehicle. As we got there, all three suspects left without taking their purchase. As we got there, all three suspects left without taking their purchase. This, in my training and experience, is consistent with somebody that is committing a crime because they left their food. Had they purchased it legally, they would have stayed and protested that they didn't receive their food. But they jumped in this vehicle to where we followed their food. But they jumped in this vehicle to where we followed and then we conducted a traffic stop to investigate the fraudulent charge, not a traffic violation. So that is how I would have done that.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Pete. Articulate, articulate. Listen guys. It's casual conversation here. Relax, you're trying to get on me for this stuff. You made me cop. Don't make me cop on here, anyway. What Harrison say oh I'm sorry. What Mr Billfold say see what you did. You made us listen to Eric Cops playing this bullshit. Yeah, he said see what you did I. You made us listen to Eric cops playing this bullshit. Yeah, Son of a bitch, what you did made me sound like a tool. Eric Levine, you're used. Are you using effing with what? Are you using effing with you? Am I tripping? Stop acting like you're on the job. Thank you, I read that part. I'm not sure what he was trying to say there at the beginning.
Speaker 7:Are we effing with him right now?
Speaker 1:Oh, are you effing? Okay, thank you. That's what he was trying to say. My brain, the smoke wagon's hitting guys, leave me alone. Patrick Shulove said you all got poor Eric real serious now, yeah, I don't mean serious, I'm not a serious person. Shotguns and tattoos, golf clap Yo.
Speaker 7:You guys are getting him to get that vein in his forehead going.
Speaker 1:Allen. He's the one screwing up all night Smugglers. All right, keep going, allen, let's keep playing.
Speaker 8:We got one running Eastbound. I'm with the car Southbound 6-5 from Minakee Blackmail. Black top, black pants. I'm with the vehicle right now. 206 is going after him.
Speaker 4:There we go. Driver open the window.
Speaker 2:now, while ordering the driver to exit, he noticed the brake lights activate, before the car suddenly fled the traffic. Stop, oh, they're going to run.
Speaker 1:I didn't see that coming. All right, so they separated. Now it's just a matter of hoping traffic's light and following. Following Exactly what we wanted to avoid earlier when I told you this is why I went into the Dairy Queen, because now you've got two people in a car and one person inside. Now look what we got. We got one person on foot and two people in the car. Shotguns are dead. Don't blame Alan. I'm blaming Alan, son of a bitch. He's laughing. Keep going. Harrison. Eric cannot read, let alone infer context from a typo. He's not wrong. He is not wrong there vehicle just took off.
Speaker 3:Vehicle just took off let me pursue for suspicious activity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, we need to know that we have a crime Like that. That was poor verbiage, like they were talking about earlier. Yeah, yeah. Now, what he says on the radio versus how he reports it two totally different things. Because he's in the thick of it. You can't really hold him too accountable for his words because he's in the middle of a fucking pursuit.
Speaker 3:But sergeants and lieutenants are listening to that. To shut down your pursuit.
Speaker 1:That's a good point to point out. Like me as a sergeant, when I hear that, I'm going to be like, do you have a crime? I'm going to be like, do you have a crime? I'm going to help him articulate because he's not thinking clearly what do you got, Tim? You look like you got something to say, buddy.
Speaker 7:Oh, I'm just saying that he initiated a stop and they're running Right there. In itself is a crime.
Speaker 1:Correct, yes.
Speaker 7:So if the pursuit goes, then you know, regardless of the initial stop, if it's legal or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he ran from a traffic stop, so, yeah, there's your crime and the traffic stop in itself was lawful because we were what we were investigating. So, and when you have a credible third party witness being an employee at Dairy Queen, they don't know these people from Adam. So if they're willing to put their name on it, you've got a credible witness. So all right, let's keep going. Are you looking for a new fence or?
Speaker 2:gate for your home or property Type in your address and drop the red pin to create the traffic. As Chamar and the 12-year-old female passenger drove through an intersection, they crashed into another vehicle. They had no clue. There was a 12-year-old in that car. That's that 6-5 in center. I have to leave it.
Speaker 1:Good cop, I like that Bring her a nade. Yep, Yep, Because we don't have a violent felon that we know of, I would tend to the pursuit's not worth it anymore and I'm okay with this Yep Set up. Let them know. Hey, I had to render aid. Keep going, Alan, you got anything on?
Speaker 3:that? No, I completely agree. I think there's also a sub-situation going on that is probably on a different radio channel, with them chasing a bad guy, and so there may be some stuff that we don't see on an MDT involving that person too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Patrick Truelove said. But did they do the blizzard test and flip it over before serving it? If they didn't, I don't want it.
Speaker 7:That's climbing itself right there.
Speaker 1:I'm not a huge fan of pursuits, mainly because a lot of innocent people get hurt. Now in this one, if the cops learn that it's a 12 year old in the felon's vehicle, we're going to stop pursuing. It's a kid in the car, um, if maybe sometimes it depends, is the 12 year old now in danger?
Speaker 3:so now, right, yeah, it's so I just uh witnessed an incident this weekend in Arizona where they actually used the what's that? The, the thing that grabs ahold of the wheel I always forget the name of it the grappler. And so it started in one city and the, the the dad threatens a female over the phone in front of the officer, but there's a three-year-old in the back seat. And they activated and uh took control of the you know van because they were worried about the safety of the kid in the back of the vehicle.
Speaker 1:And you know, it w.
Speaker 3:It was really interesting to see and hear the process in which they were determining the safety of the child, and so, yeah, it's hard, man, when the process in which they were determining the safety of the child.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's hard, man, because now you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. I either chase because I'm trying to save the 12-year-old or I stop chasing because I want to save the 12-year-old. I don't think there's a winning choice. Because I want to save the 12-year-old, I don't think there's a winning choice. So, no matter what it is you choose, I just hope it goes well either way, because they're going to continue to flee. They're going to flee for a while.
Speaker 3:But what is the one thing that me and you both know about every suspect that we deal with? Where do they normally go to Mom's house?
Speaker 5:They always go home.
Speaker 3:I mean they may take the long way to get there, but eventually they go home, Right?
Speaker 7:And as a civilian side of it, if I'm being chased by the cops and they call off the chase, then I'm going to slow down and just dart around different neighborhoods real quick to make sure that they're not following me. And I'm not going to be going fast, I'm going to be following the law, like every stop sign, every stop light, and just so I don't get picked up again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, alright, let's keep going. I'm at 6-5 Insider. Whoever's chasing, ask him.
Speaker 2:While the officer stopped to render aid, another pursued Chamar as he continued driving recklessly through the city.
Speaker 5:However, the officer eventually lost sight of him and terminated the pursuit the pursuit as an assisting unit responded to the area he happened tolights. That's suspicious.
Speaker 3:So when you look at that clock or you look at the time and that part of the year, there's also things I'm going to be worried about and people.
Speaker 1:You know so many pedestrians and you know running through these neighborhoods. Yep, yep, it's sketchy. You can't, you can't go crazy fast. All right. Just because you're running code lights and sirens doesn't mean you have to travel insane speeds.
Speaker 3:You can still drive normal and you're still responsible for, you know, stopping at stop signs and making sure it's clear for you to go, because the last thing you want to do is blow through there and and kill somebody or yourself. Yep, agreed, all right. All right, let's keep going 49,.
Speaker 4:I have it. He's going on Lloyd. He's going to be going northbound on 59.
Speaker 1:We're in a 30-mile-an-hour zone. There ain't no other traffic. I'm curious if they got the guy on foot.
Speaker 4:He's going northbound. I'm up to Garfield and at William John. He's 25. 25, 46, still northbound on 59. I'm up to north. He's coming north from 59, I'm right on it speed's about 30.
Speaker 2:A short drive from Houston. The. Texas Coast's best kept secret is the opportunity you've been waiting for. Welcome to Beachside.
Speaker 4:Eastbound, on north, coming up to 5-5. Passing an oncoming traffic we're through the green. Speed is about 45. Still eastbound, coming up to 5-1, slowing for the red. Still through the road. Still eastbound, on north from 5-1, speed's about 45. Medium traffic eastbound north from 4-9, coming up to Lisbon Through the red, eastbound at.
Speaker 3:Lisbon. Have you noticed the intersections, Eric, that he keeps going? They're crazy? Well, but there's also patrol units sitting in them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got traffic stopped, yep.
Speaker 4:So they're communicating Eastbound from four, six and north past the car non-coming traffic, back in the right way of traffic coming up to sherman through the green at sherman. We're going north on grant from Narco and Tulsa, 249 pursuit, black Dodge Journey, northbound Grant from Heineken. Northbound on Wiley back to the corner. Speed's about 35. Speeds about 35. Westbound on my knee from Sherman, speeds are about 50. Went to the stop sign at about 4-7.
Speaker 2:He soon failed to navigate a turn and crashed into a light pole, after which both occupants fled on foot, coming back up to about 5'8".
Speaker 4:Crash, crash, crash.
Speaker 6:Oh, there they go.
Speaker 1:Alright, so the 12-year-old's running too. That's something to note, but I don't anticipate these guys are going to be something to note, but this I don't anticipate. These guys are going to be hard to catch. Use the car, no sense in running. There you go. I like it. Oh, he left his door wide open.
Speaker 5:There you go.
Speaker 2:While one officer captured the passenger, the other pursued Shamar until a fence defied the law of gravity.
Speaker 5:You're going to run through it huh. Roll over, roll over, do it, give me your back, get on the ground, on the ground.
Speaker 4:On the ground, on the ground.
Speaker 5:I'm a clown. You can't do that. I don't care how old you are. Shut up. Shut up, hand me on your back. Oh my gosh 2419. Go 24-19 behind 24-19.
Speaker 1:I like it. He's a good cuffing person right there. Alright, pause it real quick. Yeah, your age went out the window when you ran. We don't care anymore like you're not an innocent victim in this. Your age goes out the window. You got to act like everybody else when somebody tells you a lawful command. So, tim, what do you got?
Speaker 7:He shot the taser. Who did he tase? Did he hit anybody?
Speaker 1:I don't think he got him.
Speaker 7:I don't think he hit him.
Speaker 1:It didn't. I think he missed. Yeah, he was trying to do it on the run it's pretty hard to do.
Speaker 7:That's brilliant, I don't. It's hard to do. It stand still. You guys allow the tase minors like kids.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, if you know, it just depends. Like, if I know they're 12, but that 12 year old bigger than me yeah, yeah, if, if he's 12, damn. But um, typically no, if you know. But there's always exceptions, Like they didn't know at that time and the kid was big yeah. I guess, he looked like he could be, you know just depends.
Speaker 3:So in the state of Texas it's 10,. Uh, you're culpable for your actions from 10 and up. And so you know I've, I've had to detain a 10 year old. Um, you know, was it what I wanted to do? No, but you know it's. You know the actions when you burn down a house. You know you got to deal with, uh, your consequences and yeah, I agree, yeah so all right, let's keep going that was a good job. He saw somebody coming up back up. Hey, he probably needs more help than I do.
Speaker 1:I'm you know they're right here yep, good communication the whole time, really really good.
Speaker 4:Comms is a department could you grab my teeth? Could you grab my teeth? Could you grab my teeth? Yeah, but right there, could you grab them? Hold on, hold on, all right, no this is.
Speaker 5:it Is he close Yep.
Speaker 3:So what are they referring to? Grab my teeth, eric. Do you think he has dentures, or what do you think that is?
Speaker 1:I'm sure it's a grill. If I were to guess he's got a grill of some sort.
Speaker 3:It's not that he busted his teeth out or something he's probably wearing. You know they wear them like a mouthpiece for football.
Speaker 1:Does age depend on the crime? I? Don't know what that means no, yeah, your age does I mean the crime you commit. I mean I know nine-year-olds that have stolen vehicles.
Speaker 7:I know age has a determining factor on sentencing.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 3:Correct For sure. So we had a nine-year-old cop in the field.
Speaker 7:Right, there's a 15-year-old pointing a gun at a cop. The cop's going to drop him like he would a 28-year-old Yep.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and cops have been putting in that position. I've seen it. They've been put in a position where they've got very, very young people pointing weapons at them and you just watch the wheels turn in their head because they are trying to calculate what to do. Training's taken over, that they got a gun pointed at them, but at the same time they don't want to kill a kid.
Speaker 3:We had a nine-year-old stab another person, I think the kid was like 13. It came down to a child custody thing and the family got sued and so then it became a criminal crime or a civil crime. But we up until the court case. It was dealt with just like anybody else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Eye of the Night said it could have been a grill, or perhaps some prosthetic teeth. True, could have been a mouthpiece, all sorts of things. Alright, let's keep going, we're going to go to the prosthetics.
Speaker 4:I want to know what happened to the guy that ran.
Speaker 8:Are you okay? Are you injured at all? No, you're not injured. No, I'm going to roll you over, okay.
Speaker 7:You got anything on you, boss? You don't have anything on you. Very professional cop.
Speaker 1:Taking care of him, talking to him nicely. This is the rules of cop Once he kicks you bust him off, get him help.
Speaker 4:I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 5:We're going to make sure it goes with this, dang, they got the motor jocks involved.
Speaker 2:While searching Chamar, officers found a driver's license and credit card belonging to another individual, which was later confirmed to be stolen.
Speaker 4:That's all I want. I'm out.
Speaker 1:Weird. Pause that for a sec. So this is consistent with kids that go pull door handles on cars. Guys, this is a property crimes thing. This is one of my level of expertise. I was on a property crimes unit for three years. This is one of my specialties. What they'll do is they'll go into a neighborhood and they'll walk up, just like the ones they were running through, and they'll just walk up the sidewalk and keep going to every single car and find the ones that the door handles are unlocked, open the doors, the rummage through. They will find credit cards or they'll go through mailboxes and they will also find credit cards and ids and things like that. This is why we tell you don't leave shit in your car, don't leave your guns, don't leave your credit cards and don't leave your ids, because they will find it. This is what they'll do.
Speaker 3:Well, and I feel like most of them, you know they never, break windows things like that.
Speaker 1:It's all unlocked, I mean yeah, it's because people leave their car doors unlocked here in our town.
Speaker 7:when that happens, all they get is criminal mischief charges. That's all it is.
Speaker 1:Not in Texas. Literally it's criminal mischief.
Speaker 7:They'll get criminal mischief or they'll get break-in and entering charges, because if they don't steal the car, we call it burglary of a motor vehicle is what we have in Texas.
Speaker 1:And then when you have you know, three or more IDs or credit cards, things like that, that's a felony. Just having them on your person is a felony because they're not yours. So it's an assumed felony until you can find the owners and find it, Because sometimes people don't even know their credit card's missing. That's another thing. T Ward said so nasty when they take their grills out at the jail Makes the whole place smell like teeth. Yeah, it does, Mr Biffle. People leave their cars unlocked. To stop replacing broken windows Possible, but don't leave your shit in your car either. Yep.
Speaker 7:It was his grill, by the way. He did say his grill.
Speaker 3:Oh did he.
Speaker 1:Look at me. I told you. I said somebody's going to run, dude ran, told you it was a grill, it was a grill, let's keep going. I told you. I said somebody's going to run, dude ran, told you it was a grill. It was a grill, let's keep going.
Speaker 6:Like Nostradamus tonight. You're not injured at all, are you Okay?
Speaker 1:Where are the other guy? The other guy, huh, where's?
Speaker 4:his back Right here. No, he came from the alley. I got him right here.
Speaker 7:We're going to walk him southbound out to Miami.
Speaker 8:Now you're going to go back and see if he dropped anything.
Speaker 1:They're blurring out his face because he's a minor.
Speaker 5:Appreciate it.
Speaker 8:Thank you, america's Day. I'm really sorry about that, man. Thanks, it was locked, though I remembered the word oh he did shut his door.
Speaker 1:I didn. He did shut his door, I didn't think he did.
Speaker 3:I didn't think he did either.
Speaker 1:He didn't look like he shut it to me.
Speaker 3:You know One comment that was said right there. You know how many times Does the public really get upset with you?
Speaker 1:You know he's in the middle of his front yard and the dude was understandable and you know he could have been completely mad about that yeah, and it goes into kind of like what somebody had commented earlier, um, about you know a level of understanding on both sides, into what tim was saying about you know communicating and talking to both sides, and to what Tim was saying about you know communicating and talking to both sides. Like that is what we need, not just challenging everything simply because you can. That's part of the frustrating part, so let's keep going.
Speaker 4:Could I get that one on my feet?
Speaker 1:Yeah, give me one second, I'm waiting for that classic code blue or blue cam.
Speaker 4:Give me all the way to the front. Huh, code blue cam. I'm sorry, I'm going to go find it. That's coming up.
Speaker 2:There it is. In the end, jamar was charged with felony counts of operator fleeing, eluding an officer, causing bodily harm first-degree, recklessly endangering safety times. Two. Second-degree, recklessly endangering safety, misdemeanor hit and run, and he was eventually released on a $10,000 cash bond. Six months later, chamar was found guilty of three felony counts. The remaining charges were dismissed, but read in the 12-year-old female passenger was charged with fraudulent use of a credit card party to a crime and resisting, obstructing an officer. As for the unidentified passenger who?
Speaker 1:I want you guys to notice who got charged with using the card. It was the 12-year-old. You know why they did that Because she was underage. So these two scumbags not only went out and committed crimes, they used the 12-year-old as a patsy, knowing full well that that charge won't really stick because of their age. That is how in-depth the criminal element is out there. That may open some of your eyes to see the shit that we talk about. When I told you I knew a crew of a 9-year-old, a 10-year-old and a 12-year-old that were stealing cars together, that was all of them. How do you stick that? They're going to go out because of the people that they're around and the families that they have and they're going to keep. They're going to go out because the people that they're around and the families that they have and they're going to keep stealing cars and they're going to keep breaking into your vehicles, knowing full well the criminal justice system ain't going to do dick to them because of their age, yep.
Speaker 1:And then people get up in arms when a cop gets put in an impossible situation where one of these knuckleheads tries to get a little street cred by posing a gun to a cop, and it's just one of those things that people don't understand. That it is— and I don't even blame these kids it's taught. This was not, this is not their. It was taught this is not something that they came up with because they were playing violent video games.
Speaker 7:This was taught.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is a cultural issue within their family dynamic.
Speaker 7:I'd like to add, if anybody has anything to say about the yard being all messed up, being that it was a legit pursuit and it stopped, they will not cover charges to your lawn. City will not cover that.
Speaker 1:That's true? Yep, that is true. Same when a SWAT department or SWAT officers hit a house, they're not going to cover that stuff either. I think if they hit the wrong place they should. But I have heard I have no experience in this, but I've heard that when they've hit the wrong places they don't cover the cost.
Speaker 7:And that street sign will not be replaced for at least 6 to 8 months.
Speaker 1:Oh, the ones that they ran over. Well, it depends on where you're at, like my city, It'll be replaced in a week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's a liability around here. I'm just so used to it.
Speaker 7:Because of the city I live in. I've had the cops literally tell me Our budget is not bigger than our.
Speaker 3:Give a shit that's a good, that's a good saying. I like that, that is good. So they here. At the end, they do talk about our, our third subject.
Speaker 1:So let's finish this real quick, yeah yeah, let's see that.
Speaker 2:Fled first from the traffic stop. They were never located or identified ultimately, jamar was sentenced to two years in the wisconsin state prison, followed by two years of extended supervision wanna deeper.
Speaker 1:Good for him, pause that. Yeah, good for you. Yeah, you can minimize that. Uh, good for him. I I'm always listen. I'm like y'all. I always root for an underdog when they get away. Sometimes I'm just like that's pretty cool and y'all wonder why they run though every once in a while they get away and we didn't get a look at them.
Speaker 1:I don't know what they look like right and he knows his buddy never gave his name cameras ain't cameras there ain't gonna be, they're gonna be 1985 cameras. Right, yeah, no, good for him. He got away, he played the game and he won, proud of him.
Speaker 7:So but uh, okay, well, you got another video for us, mr allen let's uh, I do want to say thanks for letting me sit in on you guys tonight as a as a as a civilian spectator listen.
Speaker 1:This is. I don't think the show would have any credibility if we didn't have felons and people that have committed crimes and people that are against what we do and then have people like you that are on. I don't want to say you're on both sides, because I don't think that's. I think you. You have an ethos that you follow and it just sometimes it lands on the police side, sometimes it lands on the other side. But my point is we do not censor on here. We try to now don't get me wrong. We do a little homework with some of you guys. We let you earn your way on here. I'm not just going to get some crazy fuck on on the show and get on here and start spouting some nutty shit.
Speaker 7:Main thing I got coming on the channel is I. I have common sense and I have right and I go by what the law is, not feelings. I'll give my opinion, but feelings have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1:And Matt vouched for you at the very beginning when I first met you. Me and Matt go way back at least a couple years. Yeah, so that helped. Who's this one Code Blue Cam another one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, good, here we what else? Who's this one? Code Blue.
Speaker 1:Cam.
Speaker 3:Another one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, good, here we go.
Speaker 3:How long is this one Shit, we're not going 27 minutes, so we'll see how it starts and we'll jump around Unless you want to go to the other ones and then use this one last.
Speaker 1:All right. We'll use that one last, if the other ones are police activity, police activity tends to be a little shorter, three to five minutes. Mr Billfold's got your back. He said Tim sides with truth and that's always right down the middle. I like it. Tim can tie his own shoes. Tim don't have shoes with laces.
Speaker 7:I'm a fat guy, I ain't stupid, it's all Velcro.
Speaker 1:They're the slip-ons. They're the sketchy slip-ons. Tim, you got an amazing beard, so that means a lot to your credibility. Biggie says that for me, sir.
Speaker 6:Hello. This is Racine County 911. What's the address of the emergency?
Speaker 5:My mommy's being bad.
Speaker 6:Okay, what's going on? My mommy is being bad. Okay, what's going on? My mommy is being bad.
Speaker 5:I want to come and get my mommy.
Speaker 6:Okay, what's going on?
Speaker 5:Come get my mommy. Do you know your?
Speaker 6:Hi, what's going on over there? Oh, this little one got the phone and he's four. Okay, we're trying to catch him, because he said he was going to call 911.
Speaker 5:No, I just called the police and I just called to come and get my mommy and I just called the police and I just told her to come and get my mommy and I just told her to get my mommy and I just told her to put her to jail. So leave me alone, I screamed. So that's probably why he's calling 911.
Speaker 6:Okay, so you don't need police, fire or rescue? No, no, okay, all right, we'll go ahead and disregard. Can I just have you confirm your police, fire or rescue? No, no, okay, all right, we'll go ahead and disregard. Can I just have you confirm your address and can I get your name please? Okay, we'll go ahead and disregard if you don't need police, fire or rescue.
Speaker 3:So I don't know if you heard that she ate the four-year-old's ice cream, so she's mad at her mom.
Speaker 6:Okay, so she's mad at her mom Okay, yeah, I did, that's okay.
Speaker 5:That's okay, bye-bye, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So if there's not much going on, we're still going to follow up, just to check.
Speaker 5:Hi. Oh, it's the police. They came for real.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we have to just come check to make sure everything's okay.
Speaker 5:Hey what you do.
Speaker 6:Did you call the police?
Speaker 5:Yeah, why I told my mommy to go to jail.
Speaker 6:Why do you want mommy to go to jail? Because I hate her.
Speaker 5:Because she's being bad to me.
Speaker 6:Why is she being bad to you?
Speaker 5:Because her doing silly stuff to me.
Speaker 6:What's she doing to you?
Speaker 5:Just keep on doing it.
Speaker 6:She hate you because you didn't get ice cream yet.
Speaker 5:I didn't get ice cream.
Speaker 7:So is that why you're upset?
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's why I didn't get no ice cream. Ask me immediately. It's so hard to yell at them.
Speaker 6:So no calling 911 unless it's a real emergency. Okay, what are you calling?
Speaker 4:for I ate his ice cream.
Speaker 6:You ate his ice cream Mommy has to go to jail.
Speaker 5:Should we take her to jail for eating your ice cream? Yes, this is great.
Speaker 6:I agree.
Speaker 5:I would let you arrest me, I agree.
Speaker 6:Now she's got to go get you new ice cream, yeah.
Speaker 5:Well, it really wasn't. His ice cream had two ice creams, but I told him I was gonna eat it because he's not with me and he's running around, so open my ice cream and I started eating it got mom on her heels and she's about to be two months getting like that yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So, and in a case like this, oh oh, look at that buddy right there, what's her name? Her name is River Song. Okay, and how?
Speaker 7:did we come up with River Song? My old lady is a Doctor who fan.
Speaker 1:Okay, so named after a character. Okay, fair enough. I am missing my dogs big time. I'm probably more attached to my dogs than my wife. I know she's in bed by now, but I like to talk shit.
Speaker 1:So in this call guys, this is a beautiful moment to do community policing, make time to do a little education, which these female officers are doing. You know, hey, let's use 911 for real emergencies. You know they're taking time to hear the story out, all of that. This is one of those moments where it's nice to take a breath, enjoy it as a cop. That's what I'm looking at is and just and just have fun with the call, because it is. It is a fun call and the mom's playing with it. Good mom, looks like it's a good household, everything seems good. So I'm interested when does Tim's beard end and the dog begin?
Speaker 7:That's one dog, the other one won't. I don't know if I get the other one to come to me or not.
Speaker 1:We. I don't know if I get the other one to come to me or not. We're never going to get mad at dogs, unless they're Allen's, because his will bark.
Speaker 3:Mine are as much as we weigh. One of them is 160.
Speaker 1:Jesus what is it a?
Speaker 3:Mastiff, I have a Great Dane and a. Mastiff.
Speaker 4:When they come running through they're running through.
Speaker 1:They're not. I always say it's not a real dog. If you can't give it a manly hug, that's the size of my dog's head. That's the size of your dog's head.
Speaker 7:This is the other one.
Speaker 1:That looks like a little Ewok. What's that one's name? That one's?
Speaker 7:Pond, emily Pond, another character from Doctor. Who. And she is a sit-shoe pug mix A pug zoo.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 7:They just wanted to see what I was doing, because they want my attention. That's all.
Speaker 1:Aww and she is a demon the eyes look like it choose everything, but yeah gotta have some, gotta have some discipline in the house.
Speaker 7:It's hard to do that when you're not supposed to yell at them and that just uh, mr bill floyd.
Speaker 1:He said play, send anything to alan. Um, I, I just don't have the capabilities where I'm at to to play things and have things run smooth. So make sure, if you send things, send them to alan.
Speaker 4:Um, pretty sure, that's a ferret he's talking shit about your dog bro but gets me is though you, sons of bitches white one is riversong and she's nine years old.
Speaker 1:The other one's nine months old oh, that's why he's chewing everything that makes sense. So yeah, those dogs has bladders the size of swimming pools. Alan, yeah, the when, when a great pees, it's like a fire hose going off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, next episode I'll have a picture for you guys. I don't have one on this computer.
Speaker 1:Listen to Eye of the Knight. You, son of a bitch, how dare you? You should be ashamed. He said, yeah, send it to Alan. So Eric doesn't break things, it's just shit on Eric night. I guess I'm over here.
Speaker 3:I think we should make a new rule. Every time they give Eric our time, he has to take a shot.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I got to work on it.
Speaker 7:Please no you got to do it on days that we're not doing anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, this is a weekend I have to work with firearms in the morning. Okay, never mind. There's two targets. Oh yeah right, we're not even shooting. Why do you?
Speaker 3:shoot at two targets. What is that episode? Which one do I shoot at?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the middle one. Oh, that's awesome. Okay, what do we got next.
Speaker 3:Police activity here we go.
Speaker 1:Okay, another police activity video. I like those.
Speaker 7:My mic likes to get away from me here, alright.
Speaker 1:All right Police activity.
Speaker 6:It's going to be 1-0-3-0-1 at Beach Boulevard and it looks like he just jumped the curb.
Speaker 8:Oh, yeah, he's going to be driving up on the pier.
Speaker 1:He's going to be driving up on the pier.
Speaker 6:This is a good one Cheers Ward.
Speaker 4:Yep, he's driving southbound on the pier at uh slow speeds um, you got a few pedestrians it's a murder suspect.
Speaker 3:I did not know that he, he said to do something just before that in their lingo. So he, he wants him to initiate something, but I didn't catch exactly what he said.
Speaker 1:Go back, go back. Let's hear it again. Do a pedestrian Zach, if you can that?
Speaker 6:this is a Do a pedestrian.
Speaker 3:Zach, if you can, p8?, Do a.
Speaker 6:P8. Oh, P8. Because he is a murder sub-status.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you can P8?, Do a P8.
Speaker 3:Oh, P8. Because he is a murder sub-sub. Yeah, so okay.
Speaker 1:Probably loud hail. Okay, this is a still driving on this side here.
Speaker 6:There's supposed to be pedestrians up there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So in this case, there's you go, you go after him, no matter what.
Speaker 4:Long drive off a short pier, yep.
Speaker 1:Look at everybody like what in the fuck? Now I know fishermen, they ain't stopping until they get their line back. No, no.
Speaker 3:They're not going to abandon their pole. So I'm a fisherman. When I, when I look at this and I'm coming up to this, uh, as an officer, response like following this, I'm stopping right there because he can still turn around, he can do all kinds of things. I think he gets a little close. I'm not second hand quarterbacking, but I'm taking all this in. I guess he could say he's pulling his vehicle further up To block these people Because they do know. Yeah, maybe provide some cover.
Speaker 1:I don't really think there's a right call, you're right. It's just fucking.
Speaker 7:You guys said this was PA. What's the stop of the P?
Speaker 1:Yeah, over the loudspeaker.
Speaker 7:You're right, it's just fucking nuts. You guys said this was PA, the stop was a P, yeah, over the loudspeaker.
Speaker 1:That's what he was talking about.
Speaker 3:So the video we're watching is the helicopter cam right now, and so he's telling the guys down below to hail on it and things like that.
Speaker 1:To use their PA Probably to warn the citizens and challenge this guy.
Speaker 7:We're stopping them for a PA. I've never heard of it. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:No, I think they just wanted them to use the PA to kind of warn people. Alright, let's keep going, you have people downrange.
Speaker 3:Wow. However, if I have memory.
Speaker 1:yeah, if memory serves me correctly, he comes out with a gun, so you got to protect yourself, everybody that could possibly possibly get shot. It's kind of a mitigation of risk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, risk because you, you look, you've got two people to the front of the car and you have 20 people behind the vehicles, and so, right, you've got to protect the majority now what you're hoping is everybody's got a good shooting lane and you know, looking at it, I think they do have a good window, but shit happens in dynamic moments like this.
Speaker 6:So let's keep going going. Shots fired, suspect's down.
Speaker 5:Shots fired, suspect's down. Looks like he has a gun in his hand 417 in his right hand.
Speaker 6:Suspect's down Shots fired.
Speaker 1:Ward, there was cell phone footage. That was the video I saw. I didn't see this body cam stuff. So looking at their body cam, they had really good shooting lanes.
Speaker 7:Yeah, it didn't look like anybody was in the backdrop. It looked like they moved. Yeah, but in the backdrop they look like they moved.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 7:That reminds me of Sheriff Polk when he was like why'd you guys stop shooting? Why did you shoot him six times? We ran out of bullets, Why'd you?
Speaker 1:shoot him six times. We ran out of bullets. Why'd you shoot him six times? Yeah, people do tend to get hung up on the amount of rounds. One of the things to understand is that you can get off an incredible amount of rounds in a very, very short period of time. I can fire probably what seven to 12 rounds in a second or two yeah, I got a pretty good.
Speaker 7:I gotta go. I can shoot pretty quick and it's it's a yeah and it's a five shooter yeah, so it's.
Speaker 1:It's one of those things. And then the other part is you get there's a thing called sympathetic fire, which I think we've discussed on here before too. You know you're lined up, you're about to pull the trigger, you see the stimulus to pull the trigger, but somebody else already started firing and then you start firing. That is another thing. And then you hear somebody else is firing, so you don't stop because you hear somebody else firing and you're not going off of the visual cue of is the threat still there? So these are, these are factors it doesn't, it's not a justification.
Speaker 3:Well, and then you also have to add auditory exclusion, and so as soon as you start firing and that first round goes off you know we always train with ear earplugs and all that kind of stuff but the second that you know you fire that round without any hearing protection, you immediately can't hear anything, and so you're, you're, you're responding to the movement and the action as best you can.
Speaker 1:Yeah and then and then you get guys like in mr bill fold and some of the other guys that have served. I think they can relate to this mindset. It's different if you chase a guy and you go down to an alleyway and it's you and your boys and you're trying to affect the arrest and they present a gun and you shoot. But when you know you're going to the end of a pier and there's 20, 30 people around, your protection instincts take over where you're like I cannot let a citizen get hit here. I think you know and I point at you know Marine Blood and Mr Bill Fold. I know those two guys served. You know I'm trying to give some sort of a relatable instinct that I know that they can relate to that. We would absolutely protect, you know, civilians even more in situations like that and I think that's where things like that, where they're like holy shit, they fired. You know 17 times they changed magazines like yeah, because they can't risk that guy getting off a single round.
Speaker 7:There's too many people around he would just gotten out of the vehicle without the gun and just put his hands up. He'd probably be alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, harrison said this motherfucker's got a staccato. Of course he does. I'm so jealous. He said I can drop 17 rounds in under two seconds with my staccato. Yeah, see, I'm trying to tell people the amount of rounds you can get off is incredible. So for those listening tonight so far, we're right around the two-hour mark.
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Speaker 7:Yeah, I had to spend $30 on this thing behind me to get my green screen up there.
Speaker 1:Hey, but you know what? You look divine in the stars, buddy.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I was looking for something, what I wanted to do as a background, because me and Alan were talking earlier about the lighting, I said well, I'm going to bring another lamp in and do all this kind of stuff and get it all set up. But yeah, I ended up going to get one of those Japanese or Chinese dividers, three dividers. I just went to Ali and bought one one and I stapled my green screen up there and called it a day.
Speaker 1:Yep, I got one of those. Uh, at my house. Actually, when my old house we didn't have a bathroom door in the master bedroom, so just to have a little bit of privacy from the damn animals and my kids, I put one, one of those Japanese tri-waffled things there oh that is yeah, and we've had that ever since.
Speaker 1:But no, tim, I very much appreciate you taking the time, spending the money to do the things that we were. You know we do have some minor requirements to get people on here, having a camera, having some good audio, because that all goes into what we do for the quality of the show.
Speaker 1:Dude, you sound great. You sound great and everybody out there listening. Make sure you guys give Tim some props for having the balls to show up on the show tonight and speak his mind, because it is not easy. It's one of those things where typing your thoughts out is easy, but when you know you're on the spot, people are listening and they're going to tear you apart like they tear us apart sometimes. When you screw up on your words, it does. It becomes a little bit of a mind fuck if you will.
Speaker 7:I was nervous. I was nervous joining tonight.
Speaker 1:You did great buddy.
Speaker 7:Getting the words out, Trying to say okay, here's what is going on and I know if you ever have me back then I'll be here, because I'm here every night You'll be back, buddy. But, like I said, I've been wanting to do stuff like this all day, all the time, talking with Matt about it going. Hey man.
Speaker 1:I'm actually going to be taking a trip up to see Matt this summer, yeah, and I'm hoping you showing up I'm hoping you coming on inspires some of our other guys, especially our members that have been on you know, mr Belford and some of those other guys Like Constitutional Country Girl. I hope it inspires them to jump on with us because I would love to have our members be able to come on and speak their mind. And you know Andy Fletcher he's another one. You know he'd jump on here and tear me apart. I'm just going to be standing there like fuck, I don't know. Some of you guys destroy me in conversation.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Harrison Brock Dang, harrison Brock gave us a super sticker tonight. $50 worth of super sticker. Appreciate that. That is uh-oh. And then shotguns and tattoos. Let's see how the membership gifts go tonight. Guys. We still don't know what the deal is with those. It looks like it's working right now. She gifted five memberships. Shotguns and tattoos did so. Let's see who got those. Christian Huesley, extra Devastation Trinity Cook and Jazz and King Also I guess I was one more there Cry Gordon I don't think I've seen any of those names chat with us.
Speaker 7:More like your subscribers. You got like 13.4k or something like that. It goes to any of those subscribers.
Speaker 1:I got you. Yeah Well, we've been running into the problem. You saw like we had some people report that they got refunds sent back to them, no clue why. Looking at the settings, everything is fine. There's no limitation. So I don't know why it says that. Andy said nobody wants to look at me. We agree on 90% of stuff, if not more. That makes me feel good. I'm glad we do agree on a lot of things. And I'm glad you guys are willing.
Speaker 7:I was going to say Marine, but he said oh wait, is that the Tim from chat?
Speaker 1:Yes, same one, it's me wait, is that the tim from chat? Yes, same one, it's me. Yep, tim from chat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now you got to see the ugly mug. Yes, uh, country girl gifted five more memberships. I'm seeing ian got one. Lacy r, let's see who else. Kesha and ryan was chatting tonight. Okay, so Ryan got one. Somebody that was chatting tonight. I do believe that I've also seen Ian talk on here before, so that's pretty cool. Thank you, country Girl. Thank you very much for the gifts Shotguns and tattoos. Thank you for the gifts. Yeah, I would love to give the opportunity for a lot of our members and stuff like that. Mr Billfold said it was refunded because it says the gift was not claimed, so I don't know what that means. We got to figure that out.
Speaker 7:What that is is when it's sent out to the 13.1 case subscribers you got. If that subscriber doesn't claim that gift, then it it goes back out. It literally returns back Whenever they send a gift out. It goes to a random 13,000 people in your subscribers.
Speaker 1:Then they have to claim it. Ryan shots fired. Thank you, Country Girl.
Speaker 7:Just glad Marine Bloods didn't get one damn yeah, he's still sitting with that one, isn't he?
Speaker 1:no, he's been trying forever. If I could just gift him one, I would. I just don't, I don't have the ability. It doesn't. Let you from our end. Some of those people aren't in chat tonight that got memberships fair. Yeah, like that's what I'm saying. I don't understand it's.
Speaker 7:YouTube for you. Man that got memberships Fair. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't understand.
Speaker 1:It's YouTube for you, man. They just do weird. Don't get it. I know right, I don't get it. Yeah. So thank you everybody for putting up with what bare minimum shitty bones I can do here. We can do the smaller screens. I'm limited to what I can do in. We can do the smaller screens. I'm limited to what I can do in this freaking room with the wireless Wi-Fi stuff and whatnot, but we're getting it done. I think tonight's show was pretty good. We're at the two-hour mark. I know Alan's got some more videos queued up, but I've got some stuff going on in the morning. I can't go all night. Unfortunately, harrison Brock gifted 10 memberships. Okay, so it's not showing the memberships. So this is what I'm talking about. For some reason it'll let you do a few memberships and already it's not showing it anymore. Off what gif settings and turn it back on. I'm reading what steve wallace said. Yeah, maybe that's what. Let me go to my. Let me see if I can do it from my telephone.
Speaker 7:I know there's a setting in there that you can actually have your, your members literally on the bottom of the page or above, below videos, and it will show the members on on the on your page when they go to your page and it'll just have like little circles, like they do on facebook, and it'll say you have so many members, blah, blah, blah, and it'll say join or if you're part of the, say perks if you're already there. So I don't have that. Is that if you're part of it it'll say perks if you're already?
Speaker 1:there, I don't have that. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 7:No, all you have on yours is join, where it says see perks on me and then subscribe, or subscribe, depending on what you are. It'd be right beside your name under your video.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, because when I'm looking at the options, I don't see any. I'm looking at it right now. Okay, you've got it on here On your main page.
Speaker 7:You go straight to your main page. It says our members Thank you, channel members. And then it'll say it'll have about eight or nine of them in a row and then afterwards, if you're a member, it'll say Cperks. I'm a little bit of a youtube fanatic. I know how to do all the settings and do all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So okay, I must be on the wrong part. Okay, you said go to my youtube main youtube page okay, I'm at my main youtube page.
Speaker 7:You see all your videos. It's top and bottom and you should just hold that. It should have your main breakdown video, whatever one you pinned, which would be the latest one, and then under that it should say our members. But if you don't see that, it would be on your.
Speaker 1:Okay, I see members Okay.
Speaker 7:Of course, if you're a member it'll say see perks, manage membership and all that. So they do show up on who the members are, but you should see where it says manage members.
Speaker 1:Members only videos. Loyalty badges, early access.
Speaker 7:I wouldn't call my tech support, but your membership unlocks a world of benefits. So you're not a member of your own channel.
Speaker 1:I'm not Early access, yeah.
Speaker 7:Are you on Two Cops, One Donut on your phone or are you under your air?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, I'm under Two Cops, one Donut, because I can manage my videos and do all that. I don't fucking know, dude, it's so annoying. One day, guys, I'll figure all this shit out. This is the problem with being a cop. I'm dumb.
Speaker 7:Just get a hold of me one day I'll walk you through it all it's. What does this say?
Speaker 1:I, I'm dumb just get a hold of me one day I'll walk you through it all it's. Oh, what does this say? I see something about Air Force. At least you weren't Air Force. They eat their own boogers. Cg eats each other's boogers listen leave me alone.
Speaker 7:I thought the Air Force was the one that ate the crown wrappers right.
Speaker 1:thank you, patrick True Love said I thought the Air Force was the one that ate the crown wrappers. Right, thank you, patrick True Love said at least boogers don't have chemicals in them, right.
Speaker 7:And the Army was the one that ate the boxes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh shit, All right guys. I got nothing else for you, Alan. You got any departing words of wisdom, sir?
Speaker 3:No, like always, just glad everybody came and joined us. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 1:Two-hour show.
Speaker 3:Keep sending us videos and we'll look at them, maybe when we have time.
Speaker 1:Please don't get offended if I can't get to it, if I don't respond to certain things. Guys like I'm trying to like prioritize the members. I'm trying to prioritize, you know, people that have regularly shown some loyalty to the show. It only because we just get inundated with so much stuff now, like I, got to kind of start weeding people out. Unfortunately, so so much stuff now, like I, I gotta kind of start weeding people out unfortunately so well, and they also we.
Speaker 3:We have a lot. We have other things going on behind the scenes, guys, that we're, you know, we're not ready to talk about, but you know we we're working on getting it all accomplished. So, uh, we can always make it better and better.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I have a feeling once we're able to kind of let you guys know what we got in the works, it's gonna be like just a snowball effect of crazy shit that we got going on. You guys are gonna love it, at least that's the hope. So look forward. There are some cool things coming. Country girls still trying to get me, get them, and no, I have no clue what's coming.
Speaker 1:They haven't previewed me to that information, so don't message me asking me what you got coming, because I have no clue. Yeah, mag Dumps asking if we will have the entire crew. We're going to try.
Speaker 3:Yesterday we had the entire crew. So you see what we have right now.
Speaker 1:So it's just kind of how it goes, guys. Shit happens and you know banning's wife's like you're taking me out. The same thing happened with matt matt's wife's like you're taking me out. So is what it is. It's just part of the you know happy wife, happy life if we made money doing this, like maybe there would be definitely more commitment. But we don't, but we're working on it. It's pretty close.
Speaker 7:I feel honored to be here tonight and honored to have you back. Glad you joined us.
Speaker 1:Glad you joined, bud. We'll have you back anytime, Not a problem. It's fun to have people that aren't cops on here too, simply because you have a different perspective.
Speaker 7:Yeah, hops on here too, simply because you have a different perspective. Yeah, and also I don't want to say anything, but uh, you told you were told me earlier, but are you going to let people know when you're going to be back?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, I'll be back the 19th, that's my. My last day is the 19th, so probably the 20th or 21st somewhere a week after that.
Speaker 7:I didn't want to say it because I know you told me, but yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Say that no, it's not a trade secret. I can't wait to get back. Trust me, I don't I. I I love my time here. I do. I think I really help because I'm a trainer, so I'm training young airmen how to be cops. So it's a lot of fun for me. I like doing it, but I'm away from my family. They can't be here and, like my oldest kid, she's flying to peru tomorrow. I don't even get to say goodbye like how I would like to. Uh, she's in orchestra, she's. She's my genius when I say that literally she is she's smarter than him yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They have this star exam thing in texas. She scored a perfect score on it every time, like she's legitimately a genius. So I try to tell people. She plays the viola. She's in a bunch of orchestra stuff. She's really good, really smart, but she's flying out of country to go play in an orchestra. This is her first real time away, so I'm very sad I don't get to go say goodbye to her. But are you cracking something open over there, alan? You little stinky.
Speaker 3:That would be me. It was Dan oh okay, I heard it.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I have something stupid I have to do. I pour cans of Mountain Dew into a bottle because my dogs like to get in this stuff and not over it, and if I keep it in a bottle and keep refilling my bottle up, I don't get a mess I like it.
Speaker 1:So adapt and overcome. Baby, gotta get you one of these little uh yeti cups and I, you could I do like that I've never bought a yeti, I've never paid for one. They've been gifts I've I've got 70 of these fucking Yetis. Like in all different shapes and sizes. Never bought a single one of them.
Speaker 7:There's just some stuff out there. All you're doing is paying for the name.
Speaker 1:Yep, alan cracked open a White Claw. White Claws taste like TV static. Sorry, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3:That's why you just don't get any classier than than that patrick, you're right, I do drink from a bottle, not a can a lot of people don't people see me and they don't believe it.
Speaker 1:But I do not drink alcohol I don't know it's the worst thing I do I was gonna say you look like you toke weed all day long tim oh god, I wish I could it's still illegal here.
Speaker 7:It's still illegal here in indiana, so oh is it yep, it's still illegal huh damn.
Speaker 1:Jess denson said eric yeti contest, right, how many yetis do you have?
Speaker 7:I got a shitload as soon as they make it legal. I'm going to be on camera like this right, hey guys, I can't, I can't guys no, I'm not there yet. I'm retired.
Speaker 1:When I retire. All right, y'all. Everybody, thank you for joining in. Have a good night and we will see you next Monday or Tuesday night. We'll see what happens Later. Guys, Take it easy.
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