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Two Cops One Donut
Walking Both Sides of the Justice System
When a man who spent 30 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit sits down with law enforcement professionals, powerful conversations emerge. In this eye-opening episode, we welcome Oscar Parham, who transformed his wrongful incarceration experience into a mission to keep young people from entering the system in the first place.
Oscar shares the raw reality of his journey from prisoner to youth mentor, explaining how his organization Home Away From Home Youth Development and Reentry uses basketball as a gateway to connect with troubled youth. "Most youth want to know that you got skin in the game," he explains, revealing how his lived experience gives him credibility where others might fail. His perspective on breaking cycles of poverty, combating peer pressure, and providing positive male role models offers invaluable insights for anyone concerned about youth in underserved communities.
Joining the conversation is Lawrence, a retired Chicago Field Training Officer with over 20 years of experience, who brings a refreshing take on de-escalation tactics and constitutional policing. His approach challenges the "us versus them" mentality often prevalent in law enforcement training, advocating instead for connection and understanding.
The hosts guide viewers through several contentious police encounter videos, creating teaching moments about proper procedures, constitutional rights, and the fine line between necessary enforcement and dignity. From a disturbing UK police interaction with a 92-year-old double amputee to a confrontation with an entitled government employee claiming special privileges, each scenario sparks nuanced discussion about accountability and proper policing.
This episode doesn't shy away from difficult conversations about systemic issues, including how officers might unknowingly perpetuate cycles of poverty through excessive ticketing and the critical importance of body camera transparency. Yet it remains hopeful, showcasing people from different sides of the justice system finding common ground and working toward solutions.
Whether you're interested in criminal justice reform, youth mentoring, or constitutional rights, this conversation offers fresh perspectives that challenge assumptions and inspire action. Subscribe now and join us as we continue building bridges between law enforcement and the communities they serve.
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Speaker 1:Well, alan, get everybody back here. I'll keep the show going. It looks like we're finally live disclaimer. Welcome to two cops one donut podcast. The views and opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Two Cops One Donut, its host or affiliates. The podcast is intended for entertainment and informational purposes only. We do not endorse any guest's opinions or actions discussed during the show. Any content provided by guests is of their own volition and listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions. Furthermore, some content is graphic and has harsh language Viewer discretion advised and is intended for mature audiences. Two Cops One Donut and its host do not accept any liability for statements or actions taken by guests. Thank you for listening. Oh my god. Welcome back Finally. Two cops one donut. Jesus.
Speaker 1:We have been having technical difficulties trying to get this thing started. I think we finally figured it out. It was restream Having problems. We are trying to get all our guests back. We had to boot everybody out. Uh, we're so. We're slowly getting everything put back together. So, um, fucking restream. She's like try this, try this. I'm like I am not a first timer. I've already done all these things, judy. Oh shit, but that's not what I want to do. All right, let me. I've got to try to get these messages yeah, uh, I told them what to do.
Speaker 3:I don't know if if they're still working on it or if we're going to have to send out a whole new link should be but just in case it's.
Speaker 1:No, it does look different is it okay, let me try here. Send that one to banning. Send that one. We're getting stuff situated. Guys, bear with us, we are having a hell of a night. Um, I gotta get oscar this link back. Um, I gotta get lawrence from new link. New link, we live, oh shit this is.
Speaker 1:That's so weird, like as many problems as we've already been through, like you would like I don't even know if we went live on LinkedIn, because if you're not within the 15 minute window, I don't even think it goes that's right.
Speaker 1:I'm going to check YouTube and see it looks like we are good to go on Facebook's trying to figure it out. It looks like keeps telling me it's unable to connect. Yeah, it looks like Keeps telling me it's unable to connect. Yeah, it looks like we're good on LinkedIn. Looks like Facebook's the one having a little bit of the issue, and that's just on the private channel. So that's fine, we are live on YouTube and we're live on.
Speaker 1:LinkedIn Okay, so we shit, we are live on and we're live on linkedin. Okay, so we, we shit, we uh. Andy fletcher, this is why you don't start drinking until eight. Listen, I did not start, uh, until we were going live.
Speaker 3:So centurion tactical able to able to dial exactly.
Speaker 1:All right, we got banning in here I got my aol up. We're good yeah right, okay. Um okay, it looks like we got oscar back. Oscar figured it out. All right, everybody's coming back.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, here we go have you noticed the last time our names were not populated on this?
Speaker 1:yeah, you're right, it didn't show them.
Speaker 4:It's got me as Alan for some reason, and we're live already, so that's good.
Speaker 1:Let me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were able to test it. Where was it, we don't know. So basically, we went with a whole new stream that wasn't already scheduled, so we started from scratch.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 3:The lady that is behind the scenes is like well, thanks for letting me know. Uh, 24 to 48 hours later we'll let you know, maybe, what the problem is Unbelievable.
Speaker 1:So I don't know. Oh, we don't't have this, isn't what we're looking for. There we go. That looks better. Um, okay, now that we're all discombobulated and I am so thrown off with my normal stuff no pants, oh um. It's always no shirt um stick with the plan, exactly okay so, so funny story guys.
Speaker 3:Uh, I was sitting here playing one day and trying to figure out some behind the scenes stuff and I went live and I didn't have a shirt on, so um we probably got more views that day than, uh, we've ever gotten mostly pedophiles, but it worked whatever you know, everybody's got their flavor okay all right, I feel like I'm back in the zone that we're.
Speaker 1:we're back in the woosah zone. So, all right, I everybody. I am your host, eric levine. Today I have with me, as always, alan. I sit with alan nelson behind the scenes. We got banning sweatland, my co-host, and two special guests today, um, because I was not sure if oscar was going to be able to get his shit together because he was Nelson behind the scenes. We got Banning Sweatland, my co-host, and two special guests today because I was not sure if Oscar was going to be able to get his shit together because he was having problems, and then I was not sure if we were going to be able to get Lawrence. So I had two what-ifs and both what-ifs showed up.
Speaker 1:So we're going to roll with it. I love it. I'm going to go with you first, oscar. I want you guys to know, oscar is a community leader in Zion I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly and he is Matt Thornton's BFF. Foeva, oscar Parham, is that how you say it, sir Parham? Yeah, parham, how are you, sir? I'm doing well, doing phenomenal. What about you? I'm doing wonderful. Now that we got this crab working, yeah, good. And then we have Retired and he goes by RetiredFTO, I believe, on TikTok, lawrence, sir, how are you?
Speaker 7:I'm good sir, how are you?
Speaker 1:Living the dream, sir. So Lawrence, can you give a little bit of your background so people know who you are?
Speaker 7:All right. So I've worked for Chicago Police for over 20 years. I retired as a field training officer and I'm big on verbal judo, de-escalation tactics and defensive tactics.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about. He's got a pretty good presence going on over there on TikTok. That's how I found him and the more I listened to the guy, the more I was like he's right, in line with what we're putting out there. I'm trying to make Lawrence more of a regular thing. Oscar, my man. He's been working in the background with Matt. They're out doing some good things, especially with Oscar and Matt's nonprofit Home Away From Home.
Speaker 5:Yeah, the full name is Home Away From Home. Youth Development and Reentry.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we did Youth Reentry. Go ahead, youth Development and Reentry. Okay, and now with that, can you kind of talk about what it is that you guys do out there? Badge 502 sideways.
Speaker 5:So I used to be a mentor for a director organization, right, and one of the things I've realized is that you aren't drawn to the word mentorship. You know I had a class where they would come and they don't want to talk. You know what I mean. So I decided to use basketball in order to draw them in and then get them into programming to where you you know, to get them into certain programming career, finding them and find what they love to do okay you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:One of the things if you deal with youth, now they, if they don't like doing something, they're not going to do it. You know what I mean? It's how I get you jobs all the time and if they don't like it, they won't do it. So basically, what we do is we help you find themselves up and find what they love to do and then, when we find what they love to do, put resources behind and accomplish and make careers out of what they love to do okay, so now the youth that you guys are getting there.
Speaker 1:They're troubled, correct?
Speaker 5:Yes, most of them, not all of them, but most of them.
Speaker 1:Most of them Okay, and now can you talk about some of the struggles and things that they have to face and what they're going through, so people can understand the uphill battle they have?
Speaker 5:Yeah, most of the struggle comes from poverty straight poverty, right. Most of the struggle comes from poverty Straight poverty, right. And I'm talking about, from the standpoint that you know, a lot of guys Not dealing with fathers. That's in the house that teaches them how to be men. Okay, so we become their fathers. That's why we call it home away from home. You know what I mean. So, yeah, you're dealing with that.
Speaker 5:We're dealing with a lot of people who really don't have relationships with their parents. They don't want their parents. You know we're dealing with youth that you know love to vape, or rather vape than work to get some money. You know what I mean, mean and do drugs and stuff like that. So, uh, you know those are a lot of the times for you to deal with. Uh, you know it's a lot more that I probably don't even know about, but I know it's a, you know.
Speaker 5:But the thing is, is that our thing is dealing with, you know, just trying to, because I asked them this one day. I said said, listen, at what age do you think that y'all are going to appreciate what me and Matt do for y'all? You know what I mean, because they don't even appreciate it right now they don't appreciate it. But when they get to their 20s, their mid-20s and stuff like that and life starts choking them out, that's when they start thinking back and like what they was trying to really do for us was was the right thing, it was real, you know.
Speaker 5:So yeah, but yeah, by that time it's too late exactly yeah, because now, now, and like I tell them not to touch you off, like I tell them what happens is is that now you're living, check to check, you can never get ahead. Start saving your money now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so with that, first I want to say thank you to Craig Holcomb. He gifted five memberships. Thank you very much, sir. The money that you guys donate towards the show, we really appreciate that. It goes directly into the show, which apparently has technical difficulties for almost 30 minutes, uh, so we do appreciate that. So every time you guys donate, uh, we want to thank you. And marine bloods did not get, uh, another membership. So you guys know the rule you gotta take a drink if you got something to drink. So, uh, the background guys for that haven't been on here. We have a guy that he's been on here since we pretty much got started with our live streams. Every time somebody does these mass gift memberships, he never seems to get one.
Speaker 8:He never gets it.
Speaker 1:He never gets it, but we do got Badge502 in the house. How are you sir?
Speaker 8:I am just this side of fantastic. How are you?
Speaker 1:I'm doing wonderful. I appreciate you joining, as always, brother. I am just this side of fantastic.
Speaker 8:How are you? I'm doing wonderful. I appreciate you joining, as always, brother, love the shirt, if I haven't told you before Love the shirt.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you. Yeah, this is actually a retro rifle shirt. Go figure, one of our sponsors looks like wearing his as well. And this is actually the Denzel Washington version. I can't remember which movie it was that they copied this from, but it's Denzel, it's my Denzel, uh-oh, you know.
Speaker 8:So I got to remember that you got a good Denzel. Look to you.
Speaker 1:You know, I try, you know.
Speaker 8:You're very training day today.
Speaker 1:You know I try to tell people you're either a wolf or you're a sheep. We can do this Not checkers, I'm King.
Speaker 8:Kong, in this beast, you should live here. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Oh, craig gifted 10 more memberships.
Speaker 8:Thank, you Craig.
Speaker 1:Craig going off tonight. He's trying to get Marine blood. I mean, tonight is a first of many, so let's see if we can get Marine blood, because all the crap we've been having going, it doesn't look like he got one though.
Speaker 4:I'm convinced it's in his settings. Man, it's got to be, it's got to be his settings.
Speaker 1:He showed them to us before. They seem to be going all right. The other thing we have if you don't want YouTube to get the majority of your money, we have Buy Me a Coffee, which is another way to donate towards us. Um, and that has been put in the uh chat.
Speaker 8:So thank you very much for that you don't want to give it to youtube, man. Google doesn't have enough money I know right, exactly, um.
Speaker 1:So, uh, let me get over to lawrence real quick now. Lawrence, you did, uh, you retired out of chicago which you, you made it, brother, you made it. That's all I got to say. Um, now can you give us a little background? What did you specialize in, uh, while you were out there and, uh, what was your favorite thing in a patrol?
Speaker 7:My favorite thing in patrol was FTO. That was my favorite thing. Um, when I became official uh, official FTO, um was my favorite thing. When I became official, official FTO I mean the bottom line guys I just understood that we can still connect, make connections with people without this us versus me mentality. And I got, you know, I even though the department doesn't teach that. You know, when I started in the academy they were against that. They taught against it and you still get those particular people who tend to grow up in a certain way that they feel that it's us against them.
Speaker 7:And I was fortunate enough to trick the ones. All I trained were good people and I was an extension of the academy. So I just were good people and I was an extension of the academy. So I just wanted good people and I wanted to understand that you could balance, keep yourself balanced, by training throughout your career. We all know that if you don't train, you're not going to be an effective police officer. So I insisted, that was one of my big things when I had my recruits. So you know, 21 years I trained for 21 years Twice a week, every week. I'm well versed in defense tactics Great, I'm a jiu-jitsu guy. I'm a Wing Chun guy, but I follow the department's policy.
Speaker 1:I like it. Don't say Wing Chun because Izzo's going to hear about it. I'm a Wing Chun guy, but I follow the department's policy. I like it. I like it. Don't say Wing Chun because Izzo's going to hear about it. I'm going to hear Izzo. I told you. I told you, you waste your time with that jujitsu because you like to tactically ground hug men on the ground.
Speaker 7:I love that song man, Everybody Wing Chun tonight it's a great jam, yeah right, great jam just may I say too, there's only two really moves that correlate directly with the use of force of my department so I, I that's just two moves.
Speaker 1:Well, that's it. That makes it easy for for mastering a move that's it you know it's.
Speaker 1:What did he say? You don't want to master 10 000 kicks. You know, one time you need to master one kick 10 000 times. Uh, yeah, something like that. Um, oscar, my man.
Speaker 1:Now this is what's funny and I I get shit if I give a platform to somebody like frank. Fridays with frank, which you may not know him, but he's a very well outspoken cop that's out there that some may or may not like. Frank's my buddy, he's my friend, my buddy, yeah. So I'll get crap for having him. But then I'll get crap for having a guy like long island audit on my show and people don't like him because he's an auditor and they say that he's out there, they call him a frauditor.
Speaker 1:So I get shit from one side for having you know what they're considering a criminal when he's out there doing what I consider education and doing stuff the right way, respectful um. And then you have, uh, guys like frank that are out there that I mean just follow the letter of the law they in and has a controversial past which he's explained. So I get both sides for giving a platform to those people. Oscar, can you tell people your background so people know where you're coming from and how you specifically can get to these kids where I wouldn't have a chance.
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah, not a problem.
Speaker 5:I wouldn't have a chance. Oh yes, not a problem. So just so y'all know, I did 30 years in prison for a crime I didn't commit, right and you know, by the grace of God I was in a prison with natural life, you know. And so one day I was on a debate team and when I was on the debate team we had a debate and it was going to use my story as the reason why we needed a parole board in Illinois and we invited some legislators. The legislators came down, senators and state representatives, you know, 30 came, 30 denied the invitations that we sent them. So when they came, I was able to tell my story because the teacher told me. She said well, the debate is getting too long, we're going to have to have you write your own story. So when they came, I told them my story and when I told them my story, every legislator in the room was like what you did 30 years for that? And so they said we've got to change the law, we've got to change the laws because this is an atrocity. But none of them did anything.
Speaker 5:It was one legislator that took an interest in my case and she happened to be from where I'm from, which was even more. That's why they had the grace of God. But she came down and began investigating my case and she saw, and she wrote me a letter and the governor granted me a commutation of sentence. But what he did is he gave me 70 years. Right, so I may have had five more years left, but I had a case sent to the courts at the same time and when the judge looked at my case he asked my lawyer. He said how did you do 30 years for this? And my lawyer said that's what we've been trying to figure out. So he told the judge and the state that y'all need to talk. So they began talking and they ended up saying okay, in the interest of justice, they gave me 50 years, we'll put me out the door, which, having done 10 more years than what they had gave me.
Speaker 5:But the reason why I bring that up is because that's where I get my passion to try to mentor these youth, because of the simple fact that being locked up in a cage is not for being, and that's what I try to convey to them. Actually, right before we talked here, I teach a class in the juvenile justice. With the juvenile justice, the juvenile is locked up, I get them connected to me so that when they get out I make sure they get jobs, so that they you know that's what we do in the reentry, and actually our form of reentry is trying to catch them at younger ages so that they don't go to prison in the first place. So we should call it preentry. You know what I mean. The reason why I say that is because we're trying to be pre-venom instead of post-venom. You know what I mean venom instead of uh, post venom. You know what I mean?
Speaker 5:I was a part of a uh, uh, a violence prevention team where we would hear about a crime, uh, a shooting or something like that, and then we would go on the scene and we would go and ask questions like reporters. We didn't prevent anything. So I'm trying to get free. You know what I mean from that perspective there. But I ended up getting out after a few more months and that's. You know that's how it happened, so you did?
Speaker 1:you did the 30 years. Um, you got not. You got involved with Matt on this program and you guys started, you know, mentoring these youths. Now I I'm going to have you on for a full podcast, like tonight. We're just I just want people to see you kind of get to know you. Same with Lawrence, we're going to do the same thing with Lawrence. We're going to talk, we're going to go back and forth. So you guys kind of get to know them a little bit.
Speaker 1:But you're not going to get the whole in-depth thing tonight, because tonight is we watch videos, we talk with our audience and that's kind of what we do here tonight. But I wanted to give people a little teaser tonight with you, oscar, and with lawrence if we can get him on, and since we got you both, it's kind of the idea tonight. So now you guys got it kind of got it in your head. And one of the things I want to point out is a stat that matt had told me and oscar you you confirm if it was, it's pretty close to this but 90, 90 youth that he dealt with that had been shot and 17 of them ended up being killed later. Because that is the reality of the types of kids you guys are helping.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and and and you know, from that perspective, yeah, we try to, like I say, catch the ones, cause once, once them, you get into the game, right, it's almost impossible to get them out. So what we're trying to do is catch them at younger ages, before they even get there. That's the pre part of it. You know what I mean. You know we still got a lot of guys that we mentor, that you know that it's hard to you know we can only do so much with them. You know what I mean Because they're already in it and they feel that they have no way out of it.
Speaker 5:They did a gang summit one time and some of the guys you know called on the phone. Somebody called them on the phone and said you know, how can I get out? You know, because I'm in here, I'm in this town with everybody, and that's another thing. That's the other thing that they deal with is the gang. You know it ain't really gangs anymore, they're cliques. You know what I mean. They get with their friends and the peer pressure. That's why I always talk to the youth about peer pressure, fighting against the peer pressure.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 5:But you know, and when you talk about as far as where I can get in, most youth want to know that you got skin in the game right. So that's how I'm able to get in with them because of the fact that I've been there and I can come and tell them about that and I can let them know. So that gave me an in. But, like I say, my thing is just to make sure that they don't go through what I went through.
Speaker 1:Like I say, my thing is just to make sure that they don't go through what I went through. Yes, um. So I'm curious, lawrence, because you were so damn close to what he's referring to. How did you, through your time, help try to deal with some of these? Because I've seen gangbangers at nine years old nine years old stealing cars, and you try to tell that to people that are not in the space and they either simply can't believe it. No, you're embellishing, you're exaggerating that fact. No, I've seen an element of a nine-year-old and two 10-year-olds stealing cars together, a nine-year-old and two 10-year-olds stealing cars together, and they were bringing it to their 16-year-old cousin, who would then flip the car overnight at a chop shop, somewhere that they knew, or sell it to a local drug dealer, and they would do that stuff. So for me I'm just curious, because you're awfully close to where Oscar was at Very close, actually, so, and we know the gang issues in Chicago. So how was it for you?
Speaker 7:As long as I respected them, they respected me. That was really simple. We got out with them, walked around. You know I was still, you know, cautious cautious is what I had, you know, walking around out there and whatever the case may be, but I respected them and they gave me their utmost respect and I had a nickname, ball head, and they and we got along for my entire career that I was out there I'm sorry, every one of you bald motherfuckers I call milk duds white chocolate milk, right?
Speaker 1:oh man, hey, uh, badge 502. You have a fan on here tonight. What's the deal?
Speaker 8:I don't know man freaking hi, cousin mom, I told you not to every time right.
Speaker 1:So um hi, badge five but you guys don't know this. But badge 502, we're trying to. We're trying to find a space to get him under the fold of the DTV stuff more. As soon as we go out and film these pilots, I think we're going to have a real shot at getting him what he's looking to do and we're going to support that however we can. That's a hope. See if we can work that out, sir.
Speaker 8:But while we got you, what are some of the things you got going on right now, buddy, oh, it's been pretty wild. You know my um. We are. We're currently 30, a little over 33 weeks, uh, pregnant. So we just did a um, a little online uh baby shower type deal because I was asked to uh, it's not really something that I I wanted to do, necessarily, but the the batch 502 community kept asking me to put the baby registry online, so I gave it a few extra steps. I went ahead and put it on my website so people had a little work to do if they wanted to see it, but they ended up bombarding us. So we did half of the baby shower online today. We're going to do it again in about a week because we got a few more that came in. So right now it's just been a lot of home life and content creating and just biding time until the pitter-patter happens.
Speaker 1:What's going to happen when your kid has to explain to his friends that that's not his grandpa watching him graduate? It's a dad. It's going to be real tough.
Speaker 8:I'm sure I'm going to get that. Your granddaughter is so cute. I'll be like thanks, get away from me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure I'm going to get that. Your grand, your granddaughter is so cute. I'd be like thanks, get away from me. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, make sure, can you tell them real quick. For any of the new people that don't know who you are, Can you tell them, kind of your your first responder background.
Speaker 8:So I'm a 911 emergency medical dispatcher. I've been working for the police for about a little over five years now. Cpr instructor I've been doing all this for roughly about the same time CPR instructor for about three years. I got into it right in the height of COVID. I started EMT school about a month before COVID hit and, yeah, it just kind of spiraled from there. We went from completely in-person interactions to not being able to meet, not being able to do anything. In fact it probably took me it probably took me three times longer to graduate EMT school. I think I was in the EMT school for a little over nine months. I felt like to uh once I finally passed. So it was rough. You know, actually I guess I started two months before covet started and, uh, finished up right in the guts of it. So that's nice. That was an exciting time. An exciting time to become a uh, a medical professional hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, now you guys have a little background in 502 if he's new to y'all. But uh, I want to get Banning on here. He's been pretty quiet tonight, banning.
Speaker 8:Look at that guy.
Speaker 1:Give people your background real quick, because I know some of the guys on the panel will want to know too.
Speaker 8:I can see he just got back from work. I see his signal in the background.
Speaker 3:Hey, Banning, hold on just one second. So I just have to give a shout out Go join our Discord. One of our fans actually took their shirt off, so they joined my crew. I sit with that one.
Speaker 4:Whoever didn't hear that? That's our Discord. We'll throw it up in the chat section several times tonight for y'all to come join us there. For those of y'all that don't know me, I'm not that special Name's Banning Sweatland. Right after high school served in the Marine Corps, Did some really cool stuff in there. When I got to transition from the Marines into law enforcement I got out basically two weeks after the towers or two weeks before the towers got hit on 9-11.
Speaker 4:Got right into law enforcement very early on in my career. Got into canine, Did canine for almost 10 years. My dog's name was Mary Jane. She was great for finding Mary Jane and other illicit substances. So then I, you know, after 10 long years of doing that, went back into patrol and I was down in the Dallas-Fort Worth area for the majority of my career.
Speaker 4:I retired one time it was out of Haltom City I can say their name now Great city to work for and then moved out to we call it BFE out in Jack County, Texas. Worked for Jack's Borough Police Department for a couple years as running the patrol division and then head to the county. I saw some issues at the county and went out there to try to fix them. I ran for sheriff, lost by a couple hundred votes and decided to pop smoke, enter the private sector in the law enforcement tech industry, and I now work for a company called Mark 43. That's a computer-aided dispatch report management system and analytics piece for law enforcement. That's Banning in a Nutshell. I served three years on the National Law enforcement officer hall of fame board. It was outstanding and, uh, ran a non-profit of my own for my own as well. But again, just a just a normal guy out here to trying to make the world better one small piece at a time I like it, love it.
Speaker 1:Uh, wade's. Wade's talking some smack, he goes. I've been shot at more times than all of the panel put together because he said he grew up on the line of the Bloods and Crips.
Speaker 8:You don't know, man, ems is a rough life. You ever forget to bring a stair chair into a house. Man, it's dangerous moves.
Speaker 1:We got somebody saying good morning from Japan.
Speaker 8:Konnichiwa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, dormio omegato, mr roboto. I think that's what it is um, there we go my, I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 8:Uh, my, my counterpart, uh, rob, have you seen any of rob the emt's uh content? I have not, I refuse so ems robert's kind of like the yin to my yang. He does a lot of the uh yeses when I say no. If you can kind of put the picture on that, rob is uh almost fluent in japanese, so I've learned quite a bit from him.
Speaker 8:It's wild he's. He has so many like interesting stories. He's like I spent two years studying japanese over in japan at a university over there and he blocked you, correct he what?
Speaker 1:and he blocked you right I have.
Speaker 8:Honestly, he probably. I don't see why he hasn't. I have two videos where I tied him up in the video with cravats. I mean, at this point you'd think he would have.
Speaker 1:Nice Super smart.
Speaker 8:Super smart. He's a parkour athlete. It's like what the hell? What do you not do?
Speaker 1:I didn't know I would put parkour and athlete in the same thing together.
Speaker 8:But you know, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:You have to have athletic ability to do parkour.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I mean I blew my back out freaking trying to change the light bulb in my refrigerator yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm not calling you an athlete because you'd choose to jump from building to building like an idiot. It's not my thing. Sorry, now you can go play Batman on your own time.
Speaker 8:That's Banning's job.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that would be 300 pounds of just wrecking ball going across building to building. You guys ever seen the juggernaut start building up speed? That's going to be Banning. We'll see if our plane gets in the air tomorrow. There you go, okay. So, um, before we get started on the videos, I just want to give everybody a little update on what we got going on with dtv and uh, two cops, one, donut and matt and and banning and stuff we got going on. We have two pilots that we're going to film in Scottsdale. Tomorrow is when we fly out and it's going to be all week long, so we are trying to get a live. Tomorrow night we have some guests that may be stopping by because Friday's with Frank lives out there, so does America's Sheriff Mark Lamb, frank. Friday's with frank lives out there.
Speaker 1:So does, um, freaking, I'm america, sheriff, uh lamb jesus, mark lamb I can't think of fucking names all of a sudden, so they may stop by. Um, I do know retro rifles located in arizona, so we may be able to try to get them. Um, but really what we want to do is just kind of give you a behind the scenes. It's not really going to be so much like a body cam live or anything like that. We just make go live and just hang out and then let you guys sit there and chill with us while we hang out. So that may be what we got going on, because other than that, I don't know how much time we're going to have to do anything else, because we're going to be filming every day, all day. We're really excited.
Speaker 1:So we're going to be doing a real-time crime center pilot and we're going to be doing a um first responder tech pilot, so where we talk about all the latest and greatest technologies coming out. So I want you guys to think the technology show. I want you to think top gear meets um, mythbusters, if you will. So that's that's kind of the look we're going for. That's going to have me, matt ban Banning and Jared Cosina, who is also a part of what we got going on and then the real-time crime center show is really just going to be about the people that do the job and me and Jared and maybe Matt or, I'm sorry, maybe Banning will chime in from here and there. But again, it's a concept, it's a pilot to see if we can get interest and get those going. Then, if we can get those going, those are going to help fund all the other things that we got going. Oscar can tell you all the filming that we've been doing with Matt. We got a lot going with Matt. He's killing it.
Speaker 5:That's what he did. Okay, I got you. That's us telling he's killing it. Oh, that's what he did. Okay, I'll be seeing. Okay, I got you. Yep, yep, that's our that's.
Speaker 1:That's us telling Matt is a, he's a soldier. I tell you, if you tell Matt, if I want you to do this, matt's going to do it. He's going to do it exactly how you tell him to do it and he hey.
Speaker 4:Eric, that retro rifle is a 12-minute drive from where we're staying. Just FYI, there we go.
Speaker 1:I tried to order a couple new shirts before we went out and I couldn't, so I knew that they were out there. I was like we'll just stop somewhere and I'll get some shirts. So that's the way we'll do it. And then let me see Any other news other than that. Oh, we just filmed an interview with lenny nabetsky. Um, he's a retired new jersey state trooper. Uh, banning was on that one. It's our first in studio. Uh, combo, and I do have to apologize I've got two really good lenses and then a kit lens, so I've got three cameras. The one that was on banning was the kit lens and it was. It zoomed in on him pretty good, so I apologize for that.
Speaker 4:It's not terrible, but it's a little apologies that those have to see my mug that close and, and for some reason, banning only wanted to stare at lenny.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he was infatuated with him, but he refused to look at the camera. We probably would have figured out the issue early if he had looked at the camera once in a while man, when you, when somebody's addressing you, you look at him and you make eye contact, man and I.
Speaker 4:Just that's the way I do business and I forget that cameras are even in the room. Yeah, it's just banning talking, so I don't want to think somebody to think that I'm looking because I give shit less about the damn cameras, man but me, as I'm trying to like produce this thing, I'm like in my head I'm yelling at banning.
Speaker 4:Look at the camera, look at the fucking camera next time you put a freaking burger or taco above it, man, I'll stare at it all night all right, okay, so here's what we're going to do next, guys.
Speaker 1:we're going to um, we're going to pull up some videos that got some good responses from our social media pages and I'm going to go to YouTube first, oscar and Lawrence and get your guys's reaction on it. So, before you, we talk about what my reaction is and we're going to kind of flush out what we think about those videos Sound like a good plan. Oh yeah, hell yeah, guys, let's get going. All right, I'm going to share the screen here and um.
Speaker 5:We're gonna scroll down one second.
Speaker 1:I accidentally started another video in the background. I can hear it. Oh my god, another video in the background and I can hear it. Oh my God, one second. There we go. Okay, I couldn't find the video that was making all the noise in my headphones that you guys couldn't hear. Couldn't find the video that was making all the noise in my headphones that you guys couldn't hear One second. All right, where is the video we're sharing? Okay, here we go. You guys can see that, right. Yep, okay, okay. So quick background. If you can't read the big title, this is in England or the UK or something like that. It is a 92 year old man who is a double leg amputee. Okay, so just know that going into this, put it down, put it down, put it down Seriously.
Speaker 8:Can you hold that door? Put it down. Lost chance. Can you hold that door? I can't get through, donald. Put it down. Put it down now. Come on, last chance, right, put it down, drop the knife.
Speaker 2:Drop the knife.
Speaker 5:Look out the door. Do it now.
Speaker 6:Drop the knife, Donald drop the knife, oh this is better babe. Donald.
Speaker 2:Put it down Put it down, put it down.
Speaker 1:All right. So you guys just saw that We've got a 92-year-old double amputee and the report listed that the knife was a butter knife and he's staying in some sort of assisted living and obviously he wasn't going down without a fight there. So I'm going to go to Lawrence first. Oh God, all right. Lawrence man, now just kind of let the crowd know how you work.
Speaker 7:All right. Well, I told you guys I'm good on verbal judo de-escalation tactics. I would have been there a while until I created some sort of connection with them. I couldn't have done that. I would have found some way. I mean, I've been in. I was not in those exact situations, but I've been in some similar situations. We just have to those exact situations, but I've been some similar situations. We just have to wait it out sometimes you got all day.
Speaker 7:It's not like you got. You know. You got two or three minutes, we got all day and we got a full tour duty. I'm gonna take that time and and try to get create some sort of connection, and that's usually what I do.
Speaker 1:So thank you, okay, so your your your suggestion, which is crazy to think to, to wait. I mean, that dude is, you know, five minutes from a scheduled nap. Anyway, that's the way I see that my man's about to kick in. Like why, why are we rushing that? We used the entire use of force continuum on this man in the span of five seconds. We went from pepper spray to baton to taser, all in the span of like 15 seconds on a man that is not chasing anything. So, all right, austin, my man, you are not a cop, so I want to know what is you as a civilian? How are you looking at police when you see that, oh, am I looking at police?
Speaker 5:yeah be the truth. Give me the truth. I'm gonna definitely give you the truth. The only thing is, is this right? I can't say I look at the police, I look at him. You follow what I'm saying. The guy that did every police not gonna do like that. That's one of the things that we got to realize, and I, you know is that every police is not gonna operate like that right. So when we start stereo and other police because of the way somebody do it, that's not. I don't think that's right. You follow what I'm saying. But he was definitely excessive. It was definitely excessive because it's been done better. You know he needed probably to have, uh, lawrence's de-escalation tank. You know what I mean. You can tell you don't have any really de-escalation tanks, but you know, as far as how I look at the police as a whole, don't look at them any different because I know that that's not what everybody would do. That's just one person that's doing that right, yeah, yeah, it's um.
Speaker 1:So I'll give you guys my two cents. I'm I'm looking in the chat, I'm just waiting for mr billfold to go off. Oh, he already did a little bit. He goes or walk over and grab the freaking butter knife, right, yeah? For me there's absolutely and you guys can hear it in my explanation absolutely zero reason to be using any use of force at that point.
Speaker 1:As Lawrence said, you got all day. That dude's going to fall asleep before he's a problem to anybody else. And if he's going to use a butter knife on himself, okay, so be it. If he decides to do it, he's 92, y'all, he's earned it. If he wants to use it on himself, all right. As soon as he passes out or drops the knife, I'll move in. But I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to rush that. You tased him, you pepper sprayed him. I mean, maybe it was on his bucket list, maybe that's what he wanted, maybe he's like screw it. I've lived a long life. I ain't never been in a fight. I lost my legs to diabetes, I don't know. And now he's trying to go out with his boots on.
Speaker 4:Tell me what you got banning. I can just think of happy gilmore. When you think about that dude that's watching his grandmother makes me want to uh punch the staff in the face. For how sometimes these I know there's some good nursing homes out there. I'm not saying they're bad, but I unfortunately I've had to read the reports of some of them in texas's just disgusting Um. What I would do is I'd find the lunch lady, get a couple of pieces of toast, I'd sit next to him, we'd butter it up, he'd probably put it down and and I could slowly slide it away and he's probably do a medication.
Speaker 4:He might've been denied, uh frigging, somebody to come visit him. The guy's nose is frigging. Uh, his, his life is limited. Family can't probably financially take care of him at their house or it's not big enough. So there's probably a lot of family issues there and man, it's just time to sit back. Just like Lawrence said, it's frigging. You're on taxpayer dime. It doesn't mean. If you're there for an extra hour, who gives a shit. Take care of the people that you've got to take care of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, I saw that video and instantly like because I keep putting out. One of my favorite things to do right now is find videos of cops from other countries, because one of the big things that people always say well, they do it so much better in the, in the euro, they do it so much better in australia. They do it so much better in japan. I'm like, listen, there's demons in all of them. They, I promise you, if you go to japan, I'm like, listen, there's demons in all of them. I promise you, if you go to japan, I think that's the, their mafia, like the yakuza or whatever it is. They've got whole ass territories, like the size of counties, that the police don't go into and there's just bodies, just bodies they don't like and that's the places the tourists don't go. But they have a lot more militaristic control over their country. Like if you think, as a US citizen, you're just going to be able to go wherever the hell you want over there, you can't and the police will stop you.
Speaker 1:So that's what I'm trying to tell you, like each place has its own demons. So that's what I'm trying to show you. Yes, there's places we can improve here in the US for sure. So that's what I'm trying to show you. Yes, there's places we can improve here in the US for sure. I mean, we see it all the time with these First Amendment audit videos, the 2A videos, the, you know, force an ID, all these different things. There's things we need to work on. We got our own demons.
Speaker 4:But let's also start at legislation. Das, judges.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I think we the whole circle.
Speaker 5:And I just think it's you know, from the perspective of the question that you asked me. I just think it's you know it's wrong to categorize everybody based on the actions of one person. You follow what I'm saying, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Those two cops. I'm just, those are the two cops. So yeah, those two cops.
Speaker 5:I'm just. Those are the two cops. Yeah, definitely I was going to where you asked me the question how I look at the police in the home. That's how I look at the police as a whole. That's why I was saying it like that. Go ahead though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 7:You know I don't know everybody every department's use of force policy. However, I'm pretty sure there's a policy where you can't tase a 92-year-old Definitely in our policy. So I already know some other department policy. However, like you said, he can't walk, he can sit there, you can wait it out and we're all trained. We're all trained. Now the problem is did that training soak in and did you continue? Were you consistent with the training throughout your career? That's extremely important Because if you don't handcuff for six months, you're going to forget.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 7:So none of the training, any of the training that you receive, whether you know it's, I know, it's kind of basic in the academy. However, if you don't even keep up with that, you're going to do what those two did.
Speaker 1:And that goes into like badge 502 career field, I think it's. I think when you don't get the repetitions in there, this is my biggest fear on the medical side, because you'll see EMTs, you'll see, you know your ambulances, whatever you want to call them, come out and you'll see the rookie come out and you'll see the person that is has been um off of work. They've been on work. You know, oh, oh days, they've been hurt and they come back and they'll say something like yeah, I just got back. You know, now I'm out with the rookie, I want the rookie on me right away.
Speaker 1:I want the rookie. Why? Because the guy that's been out there, that's been off duty and hasn't got the reps in.
Speaker 8:It is a perishable skill it's a perishable skill, for sure so the stuff you should train the most is the stuff that you use the least.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what I get into when I try to tell these people about control tactics or some of the like. A lot of people on here they're like they need to train more on the Constitution and the academy and I'm like, listen, when you come from a podunk department and you don't face any actual constitutional things that you learned in the academy and you don't get the reps in, when the worst thing that happens is, you know, aunt may's complaining about the next door neighbor's trash can that blew over in your yard, you start to lose that stuff. It's not an excuse, it's just reality. And these dumbasses that we catch in the police world on camera were like how does this happen? Well, this is how it happens.
Speaker 8:You better call somebody.
Speaker 1:You're not having to rep police and we got Alan. I mean, hey, the one argument I will put up there though, is we got Alan.
Speaker 3:I mean Alan, hey. The one argument I will put up there, though, is in the department I worked in, I had to learn how to talk really well because I was the backup that was coming. Oh, wow, and so I had to learn how to handle myself in situations when you're by yourself and you may have one other coming with you.
Speaker 1:So questions, Alan, because you did come from a very small agency I want to know, in all reality, with all of this that we've been doing on the podcast you've been a part of this for a long time the stuff that we've talked about in the reps that we get in has there been a point that you sat back and you're like, damn, I wouldn't have remembered that while I was out there, because I didn't face this, or I don't remember learning this, or I learned it and I forgot it.
Speaker 3:I mean, honestly, the extensive amount of training that I got was coming out of the academy and you know you have to push the issue because to go to any continuing ed or anything like that, you know, a lot of times the agency shorthanded so they didn't have time to send you to another training and so I had to be the type of person that wanted to improve myself to force it to happen. And you know there was. You know, especially now that I watch the show and listen, there's so many things that you know, like in the beginning I was like why would I have thought that way? And now that I've been around and kind of, you know, sucked it in and, you know, been like a sponge a sponge. I wish more officers could just go and experience field training with a field training officer from a big agency for a month and then go back, because there's things that I don't think you would ever experience.
Speaker 3:Eric on my side of things, and there's definitely things on the night. You know, when I went and rode along with you, you know there's things there that I would have never experienced, and so being able to make themselves better, that, I really think is is an issue. There's nobody around here talking about auditors, and unless you're smart enough to understand that, you need to improve on that. You know I know of a local situation. I'm still commissioned there, so I won't talk about it but you know they messed it up and it was not the right, right call by the officer. When you walk in and you're trying to get somebody to talk about a certain get an officer to come talk to you and then they are filming through the window and everybody's like, oh, you can't film this, well, wait a minute. Like, if you don't want me to film it, don't put it in the window. Like that's. That's that you know, and we've talked about that how many times. But this is within the last year, shouldn't still be happening but but we see it.
Speaker 1:No, and and that's one of the things that's kind, and I want to read mr Billfold's response here. He says I refuse to believe it's a training issue. There are 12-year-olds that know more about constitutional rights than the majority of LEOs. I think it's willful disregard, not lack of training. I think that that's a mutually exclusive ideology and I don't agree with it. I think that there's a little bit of what you're saying right. I think there's a little bit of lack of repetition. So it you don't have the reps in and it starts to go away. Um, then you've got poor training period.
Speaker 1:I think it's a little bit of all of it and just depends on where we go when we talk about it, what the issue really is. Um, clearly, like that joffrey on guy that we talked about in that disposition, like that is, that is exactly what you're talking about. I think that's willful ignorance. I think that that officer you're talking about is, uh, absolutely that craig gift and another membership. Thanks, brother, appreciate it. Um, but, uh, and and then, oh, I, I did want to mention um bmhc outdoors you became a baker's dozen. So, thank you very much, sir, appreciate you. Um, yeah, I I. So the way that I kind of see it is, it's a little bit of everything. It's lack of reps, lack of training, um, and then willful ego, ignorance, stuff all comes, comes in. He said disagree all you like, the proof is in the pudding. Well, I just disagreed, and I backed it up with a logical response. So now it's your turn. If you want to argue me, then give a logical response, Not the proofs in the pudding. That's not proof, brother. So go ahead.
Speaker 7:I just want to respond to that too. We have people on the outside looking in, and a lot of people, when they're on the outside looking in, they really don't have a clue. They have an idea, but really don't have a clue. They have an idea, but that doesn't actually mean that you know those are the facts, and when you yes, I agree some of it, you know you get those once you learn, once you go into the academy. If you're not consistent with that training, you will forget. There's no doubt in that. But you know, you still have people coming up to police officers asking them about the Third Amendment, the 12th Amendment. I'm like, those amendments don't apply to the police, to policing. So you know, and I do agree, though, that we all should know the amendments that apply to law enforcement.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I agree. I agree. I don't. It's not an excuse. I'm getting feedback in my head. I hear it too. I'm not, don't? It's not an excuse, I'm getting feedback in my head.
Speaker 4:I hear it too.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure who it's coming from. I'm going to mute Oscars real quick because it tends to be phones, so I'm going to see test test, test one, two. I'm not hearing are you guys hearing it? No, I'm going to unmute him. We're running through our technical difficulties again in it. No, I'm going to unmute him. We're running through our technical difficulties again, okay.
Speaker 8:Just crossing them all off the list.
Speaker 1:Tactical, you, son of a bitch he's like. Remember Joffrey was trained by the United States Security Forces. If you don't know this, Lawrence and Oscar, I am security forces for the Air Force. Our military brothers on here that aren't Air Force love to poke me every chance they can.
Speaker 7:Air Force here too, I hear you too See See.
Speaker 4:Y'all do have the best bases. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 8:Jim Clash here too.
Speaker 1:That best, chow all that stuff yeah.
Speaker 5:All right Air Force.
Speaker 1:You see what's up.
Speaker 8:It's all funny games. Make fun of the Air Force until you need them, because when they show up man.
Speaker 1:You go soften the targets before you get there. You're welcome.
Speaker 8:I know I guard the planes.
Speaker 1:I guard the planes.
Speaker 8:I take that ladder off. Here's a ladder. I stand there with my gun, I guard the planes, so you got to take that ladder off. Here's a ladder.
Speaker 1:A little one-run ladder. I stand there with my gun, poor arms, and I'm like don't cross that line.
Speaker 8:The real fast. Salute that the pilot's got that real fast one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, Sharp, I like it. All. Right, let's share screen. Let's go to which one is this called, can you?
Speaker 8:I was actually down at the Jersey Shore the other, maybe a week ago, and we're just hanging out and I start here on this little grumble in the sky looked up in two eight tens Just blew right past us.
Speaker 1:I was like that's awesome.
Speaker 8:Hell yeah maybe yeah, being in South Jersey, just see these right by all the bases down there. There's always cool. That was freaking awesome, you look up and it's like that's a different sound.
Speaker 4:It's nice to listen to them down range, too, a little bit of that bird.
Speaker 8:Oh my God, imagine, imagine they should send some test rounds across freaking the Jersey shore.
Speaker 1:All right, let's uh, let's go over to this guy here. Um, I'm trying to find a good fit for our setup here, but it will not let there we go. Now we got everybody in there. Okay, what happens if I do this? Oh, it does. Let me biggie size on there.
Speaker 2:Let's go Was you flipping me off.
Speaker 5:I don't know who flipped me off.
Speaker 2:First Amendment protected speech. Okay so, sir, please educate yourself on this only comment before you start spouting. You can't make a law against any of my constitutional rights. I need your name.
Speaker 8:Oh he mad.
Speaker 2:In-contract information.
Speaker 1:I'm not playing this game over and over with you, okay.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, you're obstructing me because you committed. You don't know what destruction is.
Speaker 6:You don't know what disorderly is. Okay, first, I'm not arguing with you, sir. We're done with you for right now.
Speaker 2:First, amendment protected speech.
Speaker 5:That's what this is what is your last name?
Speaker 1:nope if you fail to identify yourself to me, you won't go to jail, you can get one too.
Speaker 3:First Amendment protected Free speech. How do you spell that, free speech? First Amendment? That doesn't bug me.
Speaker 6:That's what you pulled me over for.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, since we've done this video. All right, I have done these videos a lot where cops not only pull them over for a traffic violation, they admit openly I pulled you over for flipping me off. Why did you do that? He mad Right, Oscar how often you go around flipping off police. Don't, don't because I'm wise, I'm not stupid, I ain't trying to get no attention.
Speaker 5:The thing is, if that was me right, anything he asked me for, I'm gonna make sure I give it to him because I want to see what he's gonna arrest me for. You know what I mean. I would want to see what he's gonna arrest me for. You know so I, when he asked for my name, I would make sure that I followed every part of the law. After that, followed what I'm saying, I'm going to see what are you going to arrest me for. You know, flipping you off so that I'll be ready to take that to court.
Speaker 8:Could you put that in writing for me please?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly. I love Ryan's comment here. He even got out in the rain to be a tyrant. I ain't getting out of the rain for you, for nothing sorry, bro, being big mad is not a crime, so it better be life and limb if I'm getting out so no, that's all.
Speaker 5:I wouldn't. I wouldn't just let him, I would give him my name, I wouldn't give him, you know, no type of obstruction or nothing.
Speaker 1:I would just comply and that was what I like to tell people to do, oscar, um, one of the things that I'll tell people to do, oscar, one of the things that I'll instruct people to do, because they're always like, well, what should I do if I don't agree with it? I'm like, okay, the side of the road is not where you want to argue and not comply, but what you can do is make your protest noted.
Speaker 1:Say, sir, is your body cam going? It is Okay, cool. I don't agree with this. Say, sir, is your body cam going? It is okay, cool. I don't agree with this. I feel like you pulled me over for improper Reasons, but I'm going to give you my ID out of you know. Threat Of arrest and I don't do it, but just voice what your Protest is. That that's A civil society. That's how you do it.
Speaker 5:But that it was Important. What you just said is your body cam On, because a lot of people don't think about doing Saying that right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, because that lets them know that he's accountable now yeah, and for officers out there, the thing that I I like to tell people, like when I do a traffic stop, one of the things I love to do is say you know, hey, I'm officer levine, the reason I pulled you over is this is there any reason you did that? And while you're doing or can you get your license and insurance? And while you're doing that, feel free to take this time to get your cell phone out and start recording. I like to give them the like. I let them know hey, I'm recording, like I'll be recording. You record too. I want you to have your own set of evidence. Um, but you really had to mess up if you got me pulling you over, at least in the last 10 or 15 years, because I don't pull people over. Uh, so that that is one way you do it. And to what oscar's saying you're complying. But you comply by noting your protest. Lawrence, what do you got man?
Speaker 7:that's embarrassing, it's embarrassing, it's embarrassing for the police department.
Speaker 1:That's embarrassing.
Speaker 7:And believe it or not. I didn't have trainees ask me about that and I had to explain to them. They shut their finger. It means nothing. It's not against the law. Let's move forward. And just like you said too, I always told people the reason for the stop, even when they were recording me. I never acknowledged that because I didn't care about being recorded. That was like no big deal to me. So I, I, I it's, it's a bear, it's not that's a rough one.
Speaker 7:Yeah, there's no reason that. There's no reason to pull anybody over for a first amendment. Protected activity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah or words Climate protected activity, yeah, or words, yeah, and Mr Bill, he makes a great point on this one and this is one of those things I kind of when I first started doing the podcast stuff. And you know, just going off of this is where us as cops, we get stuck in a fifth bowl. Okay, I'll fully admit that, like you do get surrounded by certain things for so long, you just start to forget what it was like before you were a cop, and one of the things I tend to forget and, um, this is the point that I that is very important, especially what he's saying here. He said the side of the road is where they will kill you over a retaliatory stop.
Speaker 1:Most of us do not have the money to fight in court when the tyrant stack false charges. Um, I think that's important. Like I always say, fight in court, fight in court. And I I never consider the fact that, like some people can't take the time off work, some people can't, you know, you do start to take it for granted and I don't think about that all the time. And I need to, I need to be conscious of that before I just so recklessly say go fight in court, you got it made, you'll win, you'll win. You got everything in your favor, and not everybody has the means to figure that shit out.
Speaker 7:Right. I think one of the biggest problems, too, is a lot of people don't know the rights and then when they watch social media they try to exercise the wrong rights you do see that and when that happens, when they get pulled over lawfully and then they exercise those wrong rights, it ends up in court anyways.
Speaker 7:So that's why I always say have your day in court, not on the side of the road. I like it, I understand it is expensive, or I, I or you don't want to miss a day. I understand that completely. But how many people say I'm not, I'm invoking my Fifth Amendment when you haven't even asked him a question yet. So I'm like what?
Speaker 1:Sir, I just want to say my name, and that's what I mean.
Speaker 7:You don't want to say my name. That's what I mean. You don't want to create something if you're not really understanding your rights.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, Oscar.
Speaker 5:Well, to me, what happened was that he pulled them over and I was trying to arrest them. He was trying to find a reason to arrest them. Yeah, yeah, he was trying to find a reason to arrest them. I pulled you over's like, you see, like he was trying to find a reason to arrest him. You know, I'll pull you over because he said something. I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was basically saying, uh, about him instructing. You know, he was looking for a reason to arrest him. Now he can't arrest me, he can't really arrest him right now, but he's looking for him to give him a reason to arrest him yeah, there's some good comments out there right now.
Speaker 1:Um, I want to get to uh miro I don't even know how to pronounce this miro, I'm just going to call you miro. Um, the fight it in court thing is the dumbest, most unjust shit ever. There were cops pulling over people on highways for speeding that are far away states because it's cheaper to pay than to fight it, and that that's a good argument. Seeing people pull pull out-of-state plates over, I remember driving in Michigan. We would drive, we'd take 75 all the way down to Florida. I had some family in Florida, so that's how we'd go visit. It was a miserable drive. I remember my family always saying yeah, we've got to be careful through the states because they'll pull you over for having an out-of-state plate like that's in the culture. People know that, so that that is that's a valid argument. And then uh king said the judicial process is the punishment, and he ain't wrong there either. Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like you still got to take the ride sometimes and that's some bullshit, so I want to fire up the the chat a little bit. You know, as a new officer, I remember one of those things that in those scenarios where you couldn't believe somebody would flip you off as you were a cop or somebody would call you a pig or, and I remember when I initially got into law enforcement I didn't have a very good FTO experience and I didn't know how to push that off my back and so I had to learn as I went that I actually appreciated and that was more of them respecting me. I felt like when they would call me names or oink at me when I was coming around and things like that. And so when I see videos like this, it just it. It makes me think of you know, did their FTO not set them up enough times to teach them how to let that roll off their back?
Speaker 7:May I ask a question?
Speaker 1:Yeah, go ahead. I think we've got to ask permission.
Speaker 7:In the academy is where they teach you. That's where it should be, that's the foundation, Because when I was in the academy my first day, they said people are not going to like you for whatever their reasons are.
Speaker 7:You're going to get the middle finger, you're going to get all kind of names being quality. They told us that in the academy and there's where you need to soak in that, that that you know, if you didn't get the training I you know. I'm sorry to hear that, but you know well and and so, yeah, so my agents.
Speaker 3:So where I came from in uh, fto, it's not a full-time or not a full-time academy, it's uh, you pay for the, you go through the experience and sadly, I think it's more like here's the exam.
Speaker 3:We're going to teach you and get you ready for the exam and then when you go to this local agency that's willing to hire you, you have to do some of the experience things that the bigger agencies do with inside the academy. And so, you know, it was another opportunity for me to have a full time career while I'm going through the police academy because just of my circumstances. But you know there are a lot of agencies that that's how they do it and um, so you're not getting some of the hands-on experiences I. You know, I know one of the bigger agencies in our area. You know, every day one of the first things they do is they walk into a scenario situation it, you know it's not based on um curriculum or things like that. You know they kind of whatever curriculum they're going to work on today, they they started off with a scenario based and so they get some more of that hands-on experience before they're going through FTO.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mr Belford, um, you know, this is, this is part of the problem that we have to overcome as cops, and that's one of the problem that we have to overcome as cops and that's one of the things that we need to work on with this show is you know, he said that's why I don't trust cops. The culture is all about punishing people with the process. Until these cops start paying to feed my children, how can I be made whole as a victim of tyranny? And that's a powerful statement, because he ain't wrong. The system in itself is a punishment, because now you've got to find a babysitter, find somebody. You know some of these guys and this is why I try to get off.
Speaker 1:Look at the whole picture. When you pull someone over, right, you see that they've got ticket after ticket after ticket after ticket, every ticket, and they they're trying to tell you I can't get out of this hole, but I gotta work, I gotta go to, I gotta drive to work, and you know, and you didn't pull that person this is cops, and I'm trying to challenge you to think a little deeper. You didn't pull him over for speeding. You pulled him over because his registration was out or his plate was bad. That's not a, that's not a moving violation. That's a dude that can't get out of the hole. And you're perpetuating the circle. You got to see the bigger picture and you're going to be able I'm hoping you're going to be able to read that when you talk to him and you're going to know if they're. You know, you're gonna have a feeling if they're full of shit or not. So go ahead, vinny.
Speaker 4:I was just going to say. I mean, obviously I can only speak about the Lone Star State, the great state of Texas, and doing this for for for 21 years here, frigging, we were able to tell our rookies as they came on. The traffic stop is probably one of the only things you're going to have discretion on. And I want you to think about family members. I want you to think about everything when you're stopping somebody, on how, when your family members get stopped, regardless of their backgrounds, regardless of this, and that it goes back to that old, when you're five years old, your mother tells you treat people as you wish to be treated. And you know respect goes a long way, and I think I've had two traffic complaints in 21 years.
Speaker 4:And there for a while I was averaging, I wasn't writing a lot of tickets. We were out there looking for major, major loads of narcotics heading to the east, but we weren't writing a lot of tickets. We'd stop, we'd go through our little process, warning on to the next, and obviously have a probable cause for everything. But that's the. I know most of the other states are like that as well. It's not a shall it's officer discretion on if you can write a citation or do a warning, because, just like you were saying, eric, when you have the probable cause, you have every reason to take it back there and you're making that decision.
Speaker 4:Am I going to write this citation or not? And you swipe the driver's license and you see, you know, in the past two years maybe I don't know hypothetically 10 entries for citations and anybody I don't care what your financial status is you get that type of that many tickets and you get points on your licenses in some states and you're not going to be able to claw back up to the top. It's like somebody with bad credit problems. I've been down that road. I've gone through bankruptcy, you know, trying to climb out of a frigging Canyon. Sometimes you just got to be that person to help somebody get back up to the top and give them a frigging warning once in a while. Just anyway, I'll get off my pedestal myself.
Speaker 1:I'll, just anyway, I'll get off my pedestal myself. You good, I like it, yeah, okay. So I guess my biggest takeaway from this discussion so far is cops. Okay, let me let me look right in the camera. Cops out there, if you're watching this show, be mindful and understand that you are potentially perpetuating a situation that cannot be fixed in what you do with your traffic stops. And two, the other part that I would challenge officers to do is make sure that your traffic stop and what comes of it isn't a form of punishment by using the system.
Speaker 1:I like the way that Mr Belfold put that. I didn't think of it in that way. I've thought of it, but not in that way. The way he said that actually really stuck with me. I'm going to push back on cops Don't use the system as a punishment. Try to figure out if that's what's happening. If it is, you're in the wrong. It's not our job to punish. That is not our job. You either have it or you don't. You were either going to do it or you weren't. If you're doing it off of emotion or ego, you're in the wrong automatically. That's the way I see that. Tim said tickets, tickets, tickets. Well, if you've got them, come to our Discord and Eric will laugh at you for getting them.
Speaker 7:I like Tim.
Speaker 1:Tim is on a roll tonight, y'all. He is always trying to get people over to our Discord. He's like a great mod to have over there. He's our tactical sleeping Santa. So for anybody that needs to find him, badge 502, lawrence even because I'm going to get Lawrence in on this. Alan and Banning already know, but on our Discord we have channels set up specifically for our hosts and for people that have channels. So you can come to our Discord and maybe one night we have a Q&A. Maybe people just post questions and periodically throughout the week you can check on there and see on your channel If somebody had a question for you. Maybe they got some questions on your content and they'll post the link. Hey, I want to know something about this, but we want to offer that up for you guys. Um, down the road. So make sure you guys do that. Oh bad, you're muted. Buddy, there you go. You're unmuted, go ahead.
Speaker 8:Come hang out, the water's fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so MagDump dropped $2. He said uphold the law, don't use the badge to hassle. Agreed.
Speaker 8:I don't hassle anybody.
Speaker 1:MagDump member for seven months, by the way, look at him. I'm proud of him, one of the best names that we've got too. So, all right, let's go to another video real quick.
Speaker 3:Um, we've already done that one, and you know, he should maybe rename it to the clip dump, for yeah, our brother that's not here tonight um, okay, we're gonna do tonight.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're going to do this video and then we're going to get to the body cam review things. Okay, let me Actually I lie. There's one other video, but I'm going to show this one first. And Badge 502, I found out it's your mic. That's giving a lot of feedback.
Speaker 8:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's like Okay, how about?
Speaker 8:I do. Yeah, how about I do this? How about I take these off and I just use the cell phone itself?
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 8:Let me shut my head off.
Speaker 1:At least he had pants on.
Speaker 8:Oh yeah, oh, we're at it. Ghost Patch.
Speaker 1:Go to ghostpatchcom See what Banning's showing right there. You guys can find some Two Cops One Donut swag at ghostpatchcom. Just type in Two Cops, one Donut. Oh, there we go. That's the metal band.
Speaker 8:I'll come out and jump on my desktop.
Speaker 1:Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Let me share.
Speaker 3:Hey, what was that challenge coins? Eric, I saw something you talked about.
Speaker 1:Challenge coins yeah didn't you say we had some challenge coins? Oh, we do have challenge coins on Ghost Patch, if you go there. Absolutely, sir, appreciate you bringing that up. All right, we're going to big size. There we go and let's watch how this one unfolds.
Speaker 2:Hey, the reason I'm stopping out with you, city of Ormond states that you can't park on an unimproved lot. Okay, oh, I can't. You cannot, sir. No, yeah, we're just sleeping in the car for a couple of days because I'm moving into my new apartment tonight.
Speaker 6:Okay, who's in there with you?
Speaker 2:It's myself. Okay, do you guys have ID with you? Yeah, perfect, if I can see that I'm sick today, so I'm not at work. I have a flu. I was in the hospital yesterday. Okay, all right, give me a second, all right. Yeah, does he? Have money for gas. Do you have money for gas? No, I'm not trying to give interviews. I understand your financial struggle. All right, drive park on an unimproved lot.
Speaker 1:Alright, I'm going to pause it real quick. There is one issue that I have with this guy that I hope he can improve over time. He he's being awesome, but he doesn't sound like he's being awesome. He is a. He's talking like a robot. He's talking like a cop, like a robot cop. If he could just get a little inflection in his voice I think he would be perfect. But he sounds like a robot. He's like all right, I am not going to like I need to educate you and inform you, and and like I'm like ah, come on, dude, like a person, talk to him Like he's a person, you're talking like RoboCop, but let's just keep going, cause I want you guys to see this.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's a $250 fine. Okay, I'm not going to strike you with it. I don't see any dope or anything. Been sober for three years. How bad are you financially? You don't have money for gas at all. I don't have nothing at all. We're going to drive up to the BJ's. Okay, I have a BJ's membership. I'm going to put in $20 in your tank.
Speaker 2:okay, that way you guys can get around and get situated. All right, I had to. All I ask is that you make good decisions with this. Listen, tough times are tough times. Everybody goes through tough times. Lean on each other and support each other. That's the only way you get through it. That's the only way me and my wife get through it. We lean on each other. I came from a very poor beginning. There's no shame in that. It's what you do with what you have that makes a difference. So be that change. Be the change on each other and support each other. Okay, that's all I ask you guys. Have a great day, all right?
Speaker 1:god bless you yes, I look like a genie. Uh, that's not what I was going for um yeah, that's a very cool. Um, there we go. Look at the professional studio. Now I like it. Let's say something real quick it's not working yet oh yeah, it is there, it is there, we go there, we go Nice. So, oscar, I'm going to go with you first, brother, you see something like that. You see police doing that. What do you think?
Speaker 5:It really goes back to what I was talking about at first. That's why you can't say all police. You know what I mean when you say the police. To me I didn't see anything wrong. I agree with you talking though the way he's talking like a robot, but as far as everything he basically it was kind of like a form of mentorship to me, the way he was just trying to make right decisions, but I thought it was all right. I didn't see anything wrong with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, country girl, did I answer your question, go ahead.
Speaker 5:I said did I answer your question.
Speaker 1:I thought you said to answer my question. I thought you were going to keep going no you're good. Country girl said good cop, but the guy didn't ask for a therapy session Come on Country Girl. How are you going to pick at that one? That was a good one. That was a good one. I mean again, other than the RoboCop talk. It was very unemotional, even though it was an emotional call. It was very unemotional, lawrence. What do you got, bro?
Speaker 7:I agree with the same thing. You know the the um robot talking, but other than that I would. I would have taken care of it too. I would put gas in the car one of the biggest things too. I don't like what officers do when they say I'm going to educate you yeah, yeah, I have a problem with that because you're not there.
Speaker 7:if you tell someone you failed the step of the stop sign, you're not going to go through the statute. You're just going to say you failed to stop at a stop sign, that's it. You're not going to educate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah the whole. It's a $250. Fine, but I'm not going to give it to you Like you're trying to put yourself, like I just did this for you. You're lucky that I did this.
Speaker 8:You're so lucky, I don't think anybody else would have done it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all of these other cops out here on my agency, they would have gave you that $250 fine, but not me, cause I'm different. You were in the South end of town, bro, right, if you'd have been illegally parking on this big open, empty lot, those other cops would have got you with a $250 fine. It's stupid. Um, now was the guy probably out there doing an investigative stop, because it's not normal for a car to be parked in that area. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with an investigative stop trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1:Um, and I, I could have done without all of the here's what I could have done and more of the. Okay, tell me what's going on, all right, cool, let me get your info real quick. Uh, all right, bro, everything seems to be checking out. I want to help you like I need. I'm gonna try to help you out like I like that. And then you know, some people get upset about the id crack. Listen, that's just how we do things. I I've explained myself a million times on here. You guys know that I don't think it's wrong to ask about ask for ID. You had an offense here, so you can technically demand ID if you want, you got a traffic offense.
Speaker 4:But just real quick. Lawrence has got a jet. Lawrence, how can everybody that's watching? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How can everybody that's watching?
Speaker 7:Oh.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How can everybody that's watching this podcast tonight find you? I know you got to. You got to cut out.
Speaker 7:Yeah, you could go on my on TikTok and it's. I got it's Lawrence retired FTO. I got a ton of videos and that's actually how I found Matt Eric Eric. Oh yeah, so yeah. Yeah, I got a ton of videos and that's actually how I found Matt, eric, all of you. So yeah, yeah, well, that's how I found Matt too, but yeah, so just go on my Tik TOK and find me there at Lawrence retired FTO.
Speaker 1:So real quick, Lawrence, before you go, this is your channel, correct?
Speaker 7:Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1:Okay, make sure you guys go like, follow, subscribe, uh, his channel for us. Um, I am trying, I'll. I'll just tell you guys right in front of lawrence, I don't care, uh, I'm trying to make him more of a part of what we're doing because, uh, once you go see his stuff, you'll you'll understand he's of the of the same mindset that we are. So I really like what he's doing and I want him to be a part of what we're doing. So, alright, lawrence, I appreciate you, brother, thank you very much, thank you and he gone.
Speaker 1:Okay, you guys like him. Yeah, he's a good dude. I've been following him for a while and actually he does a lot of live chats on his TikTok where he just kind of does ask a cop a question stuff and he does really good. And so I jump on occasionally and I'm just like, hey, you know, I'll jump on and ask him a question or two and we seem to get along. I really like him. Wade's asking a question question panel. How many of you have found the bouncing car in the parking lot before? Oh, my, oh, my god, a lot. If you knew some of the nasty things I have seen, I mean you know what?
Speaker 4:let me, let me give you a 30 second. I'm not even going to say the department I was at, because it's anyway I was. Uh, I finally got used to an area where I was at and I heard that there was a lot of criminal acts that were going on at this public park and to keep an eye on it, since it was in my beat and parked, blacked out, in the parking lot, parked up behind a tree, and there's a little walking trail that you can kind of go around where the lights don't hit you. So you can kind of go around where the lights don't hit you, so you can kind of keep an eye and look out in the park. And I'm new, I'm learning, and so I'm doing this walk. I check out with dispatch in any way. I get over there and I get my binos up and and and.
Speaker 4:Uh, we had, we had a shooting in that parking lot the week before. Let dispatch know I was there and I got my binos up. I'm looking, there's 10, 15 cars out there. There's some separated by buildings so they have a little bit of privacy. And then I see two with some people doing stuff on a hood. They'll probably not be okay If kids were happy. You have to take time and account too. It's at that time we had a curfew in the state of Texas. There was mostly just adults out in that parking lot. So am I going to go check out with them? I may beat my siren when I leave and hopefully they do the right thing and take off, take it to a hotel.
Speaker 4:But anyway, I hear behind me I had no clue that this person was back there. Swetland, what are you doing here? And it was one of the patrol supervisors, Keep in mind. I'm a year and a half on and I'm like holy crap, sergeant, had no clue, you were here. Uh, do you want my assistants to go down here? Are you wanting to do something? He goes. Well, if we go down there and interrupt, they won't be back next weekend. He's getting big and I'm like are you freaking, kidding me? So I I figured supervisors on scene, I'm out, and he was trying to make a joke, but just the way that could be construed by somebody. Man, oh, that's bad stuff.
Speaker 1:So anyway, yeah, I'm gonna read mr billfolds. Uh, he's on fire tonight. By the way, mr billfolds got a lot of flame going on today. That didn't sound right. That's not what I meant, mr billfold. You're you're killing it. You got really good comments tonight, my bad um.
Speaker 1:He said the asking for id absent a crime is a problem. What does an ID tell an officer about potential criminal activity? Cops only ask to run warrants. It's the LEO version of scratch off tickets. He ain't wrong. He is not wrong. It's a part of it, for sure. I agree with him to a point, but I think the caveat for me is any time that I ask for an ID absent a crime, I let them know. Hey, you don't have to ID, but can I get your identification for X? And if I'm going to run it, I will let them know. More than likely, though, if I'm telling them I'm not running it, I am just simply getting your information so I can get it for the report that I'm about to do or for whatever. So I think there's a fair play there. What do you think? Oh, go ahead, oscar. No, oscar, you go Real quick.
Speaker 5:Oh, go ahead, oscar. No, oscar, you go Real quick. So let me ask you if any of you ask for an ID, like from what you just said, and they don't give you the ID and they refuse to give you the ID, how is your response after that?
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean my response, and I'll tell you the God's honest truth, my response. If I tell you, hey, can I get your ID? Just so, I got this information for my stuff. The report I'm going to have to do you are not under investigation. You don't have to give it to me. If they say I don't want to do it, I'll be like you know what I tell them. That's your constitutionally protected right. I appreciate that. I honestly tell them. I appreciate it because I want them to know that I'm going above and beyond to be transparent and accountable for what I'm asking, I think.
Speaker 5:I think a lot of people think that it draws suspicion when when they don't do it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean and I'll fully admit I I'm not. There's not a lot of cops I've ever seen do what I do right and I can't make them. I can't make them um and them asking isn't illegal, but I can tell you what I do and I can. More importantly, I can tell you why I do it. If there's not a crime, I will ask you, but I inform you because I think that is the biggest um problem we have. It's no different than getting a public defender versus a well-seasoned, paid-for defender attorney. A public defender is going to do just enough where your attorney is going to go above and beyond. I want to be the attorney you paid for. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 1:So, Tim, we have voting classes.
Speaker 4:I feel like we're gonna get a false advertisement lawsuit you just want to be a little bit better than stall goodman yeah, yeah, goodman was awesome.
Speaker 3:you know, I I think you would agree with me, eric and banning. You know, in the great state of tex, texas, as we say that you know so many times the people that we deal with when we're they want to help, and so it's like you almost have that conversation where it's just like, hey, can I see your ID? Because they just know that you're doing your job and it's not even that big a deal, just know that you're doing your job and it's not even that big a deal. And then people, then you have to remember that you know, oh yeah, you don't have to get it, because I'm so used to having that conversation of we're collecting information for a rec or things like that, and it's like you know, I do have to check myself and go, oh yeah, yeah, it's not that big a deal if you don't want to give it. You know and move on to the next subject matter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tim, or I'm sorry. Mr Belford said, cops will say if you did nothing wrong, why won't you ID? I tell you what if I hear you say that shit while I'm on scene, I'm going to tell you kick rocks, I got it.
Speaker 4:Don't be saying that shit to people, that's going to be a talk later at the station Once you clear that call.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now you're compelling ID and I don't agree with that, no more than I agree with soliciting trespass and some of that shit, shotguns and tattoo. I love Alan's donut shirt. I just want you to know that Retro Rifle designed that shirt around the podcast before we ever became sponsors. They actually emailed me and said hey, we, we would love for you to wear the shirt. We kind of, uh, were inspired by the podcast for it.
Speaker 3:We're like I'm on board so the best part about it is the the sprinkles guys.
Speaker 1:They're bullets. Yeah, there's no guns on this one.
Speaker 3:Just bullets.
Speaker 5:Right, that's right, all right.
Speaker 1:Okay, I got one more short video, so we'll watch this one. This one is gangster as fuck.
Speaker 4:Everybody's still good on time. I don't want to step on anybody if they've got a jet.
Speaker 5:I think everybody's good. I'll do it in a second, but my phone is going 6%.
Speaker 1:Hey bro, you ain't come charged, dang you just like Matt. You two peas in a pod Can't get you straight with technology.
Speaker 5:I think my cord got a shortage in it. I got my cord. It's going down. Is it going down slower?
Speaker 1:Two Cops. One Donut is going to make its first official donation to a nonprofit and we are going to get the two pillars of home away from home. We're gonna get them some iphone cords. We're gonna get them hooked up, we're gonna get them proper. All right, let me, uh, let me pull this video up real quick, um, and then we'll, I we'll do this video, oscar, and then I'll let you say goodbye. Okay, let me share the screen. You guys are going to like this one.
Speaker 8:Oh yeah, it's a great video.
Speaker 5:No it's good shit. Oh fuck, Fuck, he shot me. God damn it.
Speaker 2:Officer shot 13-D-04,. I am shot but I'm up and moving got it Shots fired, shots fired, shots fired. Call UMS, something's wrong. Hey, tourniquet, tourniquet, tourniquet 13-D-04. All right, putting the tourniquet on me.
Speaker 5:God damn it.
Speaker 2:Go get him. Get behind the car, get behind the car.
Speaker 5:I'm bleeding like a son of a bitch. Tourniquet man here, Alright, here.
Speaker 2:Tie that shit up on me, go here, turn it, get my ass here All right here, tie that shit up on me, go high.
Speaker 5:First off.
Speaker 1:let me say all right, let me get this, let me get this off of here, gangster.
Speaker 4:I've seen this a couple of times. I'm going to give two cents that are not going to give out the video and we'll let other people go, but I've been in some hairy situations like this and thankful to to to walk away from it. But my, my boy, they got hit. That car charges that weapon, gets back in the fight, delivers around, communicates, delivers more rounds, takes out the threat and then assesses that's, that's. That's good stuff, man. I wish every officer could have the heart and the brain to be able to stay in the fight to protect the people out there.
Speaker 1:You can't tell me your boy didn't serve. That is to me okay. This is where I'll tell y'all that dude was probably a Marine. I'm just going to put it out there. He's probably a Marine. That's my feeling on that.
Speaker 5:Oscar, I want to give you a chance to respond to that before you've got to go, the only thing. Well, I'm going to be honest with you. For some reason, that video, I couldn't really see it that good because I'm on the phone and it's real small, right, I couldn't see that one that good. I'm not going to lie to you. Okay, could you hear it? I heard the shooting and I heard what he was saying, but I couldn't really see what was going on. I could barely see the other one, but I could see it. I couldn't see that one at all, really, just like I seen your hand and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I didn't really see it, okay, but you could hear what he was saying and he was very calm. Taking fire yeah, definitely. So to me that is a rare breed. There's a lot of us that think that we'll be cool, that we can hear that shit and until you actually get shot at, get shot and take fire you can say all the shit you want Until you're in that position. That is how you hope you'll act, okay.
Speaker 5:I was trying to figure out where I was going with that one. I ain't hoping I didn't really see it. I ain't gonna lie Fucking.
Speaker 1:Craig Craig. Go home, You're fired. How are you going to get fired on your day off, Craig Craig? How?
Speaker 4:did I know you were going to go right for that man, I can't help it.
Speaker 5:It was real being on here with y'all.
Speaker 1:Thanks for the invite and, like you said, if you wanted me to do another one, I'm always open to it All right, oscar, what we're going to do, we're going to get you set up proper with the mics and all that stuff, and we're going to do a real interview because I just want to give people a little teaser of you and your background, because I think you are out there doing great things.
Speaker 1:Thank you, despite the fucking horrible cards that you had to play and between what you and Matt got going on. Dude, like you know, every time I talk to Matt about it I start tearing up because I get so moved by what you guys are doing and you know I'm a crier, so you don't know that on here I'm a baby. I cry about everything. But what you two got going on, I support it a hundred percent and I'm hoping, with the dtv stuff, dude, we start making you guys rock stars and really put out your message in a new way, not just for you two, because you two deserve it, but for the kids, because they deserve a chance.
Speaker 5:Definitely.
Speaker 1:Tell people how they can find you real quick. I'm going to pull it up while you do that.
Speaker 5:So you can find us basically more so on Facebook or at HomeAwayFromHome, and then you can find us on Instagram at HomeAwayFromHome, and then you can find us on Instagram at HomeAwayFromHome Youth Development and Reentry, and we have a website HomeAwayFromHome HomeAwayFromHomeYDRcom. It's Youth Development and Reentry. Ydr is Youth Development and Reentrycom and that's our website. So those are the ways you can find us.
Speaker 1:Let me make sure that what I've got pulled up right now is the right thing. Is that it?
Speaker 5:Is that the new website? It is. That's the website.
Speaker 1:Meet Oscar Parham right there, that's you. Is that the the website? Yes, uh, meet oscar parham right there, that's you new website.
Speaker 5:No, we got two websites. The other one we had. We had to get it redone. So, yeah, that's the. I'll just make sure you got the new one, but more so all of our videos on facebook. Right there, me and mont were doing some. Uh, those two kids were uh, they was friends when they was little and then they was all of a sudden they started trying to kill each other. So we had to do some kind of uh, what you call it uh, get them back together. Ah, you know, okay, gotcha. So, yeah, they grew up friends and one of them got mad because of something, and now they're just trying to, you know. So we had to bring them back together, just to reconcile them together.
Speaker 1:That's what that was okay, intervention speed okay, I like it. I love it. Yeah, I like man, I love that. You two I mean I, I look at my career banning. Maybe you could say the same about you, alan and I I'm trying to like think of of the good things that I've done. I've done some good things. In my head I'm like I helped this person, I helped that person. You motherfuckers are out killing it. I mean, if I were to try to compare what I've done in my career, you two have done something that I could never fathom.
Speaker 5:I would never even have thought of what y'all are doing and it's so impressive one of the things I wanted to do when we went team that would make was I wanted to kind of cuz he. Let me tell you a quick story about when I was like up it's funny that my phone went up 1%. It's been going down but one of the things they got used to be anti-police right. We all were when we were young.
Speaker 1:I still kind of am.
Speaker 5:But when I was locked up right, because in prison you look at COs as police, right, right, but I had a CO correctional officer who was my best friend, you know. But I have a CEO correctional officer who is my best friend. You know what I mean I'm talking about. It was a time when my money came late and he made sure I had food every day until I got to my. We was able to get back to the store. I got, I got my money the same day that they went to the store and I couldn't go to the store, so he would always bring me food from the officer's kitchen. You know I'm saying so. I realize. I realized. You know we, we became best friends. A guy named shaggy. He's my buddy, you know. I've been looking for him since I've been out because that I told him you haven't found him yet no, but the thing is is that, like I say, it's that that you know.
Speaker 5:So understand that there are some good cops, there's some good people and you're going to have some bad ones, but everybody not. I'm not going to judge everybody based on the actions of the few you know. The bad ones you know, so that's where I, kind of you know, fall in at.
Speaker 1:Gotcha. Yeah, well, when we connect later I'm going to get more info on that and I'll see if I can't help find your dude.
Speaker 5:Okay, definitely, and you just so you know, he's a probation officer now he's a. He's a probation officer in Chicago, I think somewhere. But yeah, like I say, thank you for having me on, thank you all for you know it was a pleasure. Really enjoyed doing the show.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much.
Speaker 5:My story is book worthy.
Speaker 1:Now just so you know.
Speaker 5:I'm going to let you know that when you do get me on here, my story is book worthy. It's a lot that I just you know. I gave you a tidbit.
Speaker 1:All right, do me a favor, don't tell me, don't tell me, don't tell me all the juicy details when we have you on. I want you to get that book. So I want you to hold some stuff back and I'm going to help you get that book, okay. That's what I'm going to do help you get that book, All right.
Speaker 5:All right, brother, Okay take it.
Speaker 1:All right, he was great. Oscar was great man.
Speaker 4:I can't wait, hopefully, I mean man. I hope maybe I can be a fly on the wall during that interview, because you truly only read books or see different investigative shows about the small percentage of that happens to people and how dare a state allow that to happen? You know what I mean. I don't know all his details yet. Right, good grief, 30 frigging years, is that what he said?
Speaker 1:Yeah, 30 years. Yep, yep, and I am trying to badge 502 sent us a video, so I'm trying to what, what?
Speaker 8:an experience I'm trying to. What an experience.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to pull that up. Wherever it went, there it is Now.
Speaker 8:Anytime I go on social media and I hear that nothing beats a Jet 2 Holiday, I'm like, oh God, this is terrible.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to pull this video up here. Badge 502 sent in. It looks like they stopped comments.
Speaker 8:I had commented. Pull this video up here. Badge 502 sent in. It looks like they stopped comments. I had commented on this video.
Speaker 1:Okay, can you guys see this? There's no way to biggie size it. I apologize, it is what it is All right let's go.
Speaker 6:Nothing beats a jet to holiday and right now you can save 50 pounds per person.
Speaker 1:Oh no, down goes fraser.
Speaker 2:There's three of them 22 kilograms.
Speaker 3:There's three of them one's got a gun, so that's a cop.
Speaker 7:But now with jet two holidays, but now with Jet 2 Holidays, package holidays. The song.
Speaker 8:Anytime I hear that song now, I'm like, oh god, what's about to happen?
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, it's never anything good. Well, at least they finish up Strong.
Speaker 8:You know there's probably a market for this.
Speaker 4:I wonder if they invented a chair for stairs that you could just Get people out of houses a little bit easier they actually have that well, some moving companies have this uh friggin deal that gets your washer and dryer and it's mechanical and they hit the button when they get to apartment stairs and it friggin just walks the beast right up right, oh my god I'm like I'm watching this.
Speaker 8:I'm like there's about 4 000 different ways you could have got that patient out of that house and you chose the way that smashed their face into the concrete.
Speaker 1:Right, let's do that oh my god, I am so angry right now with restream. It is just keeps fucking up. Everything tonight with restream has been fucking up, oh my god. Anyway, all right, um craig, clearly they moved on to discord. In case you didn't hear oh man, that's so funny. Uh, watch the music. He's trying to warn us. Yeah, we might get jammed up for the music playing on copyright.
Speaker 4:Hey man, grab that little teaser. You put out 300-pound man.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we could do that one too.
Speaker 4:Let me see I apologize for the size of my mug in this.
Speaker 1:Let me see here, let me share screen Boom, biggie size. All right, let's go.
Speaker 6:Hear about the 300-pound guy that disappeared.
Speaker 6:Well, now that we've put it that way, so you know, my friends at the FBI and I was very fortunate, Like I was assigned to the FBI for eight and a half years working on JTTF, but before that when I was working organized crime. You know the running joke is like we had a case on a guy in Bonanno Capo in again Monmouth County, new Jersey, frankie Coppa. Right, I'll tell a little bit about the case. But, like you know, the thing about the case is like, as we're getting ready to take it down, like Frankie Coppa just disappears, right, he's nowhere to be found. Like we've got all of his phones like tapped and then all of a sudden, like nobody can find Frankie, nobody's heard from Frankie, nobody has seen Frankie, nobody knows where Frankie is. And then, lo and behold, we find that frankie is now in witness protection. So the running joke there was only the feds could make a 300 pound man disappear I was thinking he was swimming with the fishes, but he made it.
Speaker 1:He lived good for him love it. So that is a teaser for y'all. Um, that was the first time banning, and I have done an in-studio podcast together. That was a little teaser with Lenny.
Speaker 1:That's me who was a retired New Jersey State Trooper and then went over to Albuquerque and actually worked at Albuquerque PD for a little bit and then went private sector, so with Peregrine, which happens to be one of our sponsors. But Lenny is a great dude, Um, very good personality. So fucking Tim is on fire tonight. What is going on in the comment section tonight? Y'all are killing it. I love it. Um, all right, let's get. We're, uh, almost two hours in. We haven't even gotten to what we normally do. Uh, so I'm going to go ahead and share screen. We're going to give a shout out to Ryan Mays thing up there.
Speaker 1:Are you guys on Discord now? I love the sarcasm, sir. Oh, that's the wrong one. Dang it. I tried to click on it while I was laughing. It didn't work. Are you guys on Discord now? Okay, first and foremost, shout out to Police Activity. At Police Activity on YouTube, we get all of our videos for these body cam reviews, it seems like, from them, and they're awesome. So make sure you like and subscribe. But before we watch this video from Police Activity, I just remembered there is an insane video that was shared with me today from X, which is formerly known as Twitter, so we're going to share this screen instead. I am going to try to biggie size this and when it plays, I don't know how this is going to work out. This is a little longer and I have seen this one, so I'm going to let you guys judge this.
Speaker 2:I want you to turn your body came off Protocol. Is that you?
Speaker 6:turn it off as a citizen request. It's a turn it off.
Speaker 3:So, they want you guys to leave. Yes, let's just leave, let's just make it easy.
Speaker 6:Okay, so they want you guys to leave, let's just leave.
Speaker 2:Let's just make it easy, okay.
Speaker 6:We're going to make it easy.
Speaker 8:That's not the point We'll talk over here.
Speaker 2:Okay, Can we all talk Can?
Speaker 6:we all talk for a second. We'll talk over here.
Speaker 8:They want you to leave.
Speaker 2:Can we talk?
Speaker 6:Who is she?
Speaker 2:to you.
Speaker 6:What's that? Who is she to?
Speaker 3:you she is our college friend. Nothing happened, okay.
Speaker 6:She's a friend. Yes, no, I'm not. You guys just want him out. Do you want him trespassed? Anything we can do? Yeah, trespass. Yeah, I just need him out. Trespass, get him out. Yeah, please. No, I'm not.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not, do we?
Speaker 6:want to chat. I know that your protocol is, so you're trespassing, so we've got to leave now.
Speaker 2:We're not trespassing. You haven't notified us that we're trespassing.
Speaker 5:You're not trespassing, I don't want to arrest you guys.
Speaker 2:You're not going to arrest us.
Speaker 3:So let's leave. We've got to go.
Speaker 2:Your protocol is your protocol, is the protocol is If we ask you to do, the body camo All right, I'm going to pause it right there for now.
Speaker 1:All right, emt badge 502. I'm going to go to you first, bud, because this isn't your realm, necessarily. So what are you seeing from these two females and what is your take on it as a person outside of law enforcement?
Speaker 8:So you have two intoxicated female parties who are apparent. It looked like someone. Something in the clip said that she worked with the attorney's office, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Possibly.
Speaker 8:Possibly so. She appears that she thinks she knows the protocol for for the police department. If there's anything that I've seen in my history is that the executive branch and the legislative branch do not know how each other wash their hands. Uh, so that's inaccurate. Uh, although it did sound like that officer solicited a trespass. Uh, so I don't know how I feel about that don't tell me about my life.
Speaker 8:Listen, I am in, am in law enforcement, just like you are, so I didn't love that. I know they're supposed to request a trespass. They're not supposed to be like, but you want them trespassed, right. But you do have parties that are being requested to slide away from the building just to have a conversation, requested to slide away from the building just to have a conversation. Um, far as I know, there's no protocol about shutting off body camera. That's seems no erroneous. You know that doesn't sound accurate. Um, so you basically have two belligerent parties outside of an establishment that don't want to be removed from an establishment, that are going to be removed from an establishment okay, I like it all.
Speaker 1:Right, uh, banning.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna let you go next, sir in reference to some of those questions in the comments. You know, when we first got our body cameras, when I was at a medium to large agency, it actually did come out in our in our memo before uh uh, rule or general order was if you came to somebody's private home and you're there, either they called you, you come there on investigation. If they asked you to turn it off before entering the private home, you had to, which scared the crap out of me. I still had my audio on to my dash cam, knowing that I operated with that for years and was okay. But I, I liked the body camera. I, I just I love having it on there.
Speaker 4:Just another perspective. It's another set of ears, another set of eyes, um, to prove what you're doing out there. Um, and then it obviously I think it was in effect for about three to three and a half months, and then it came out If you're there, if you have a legal reason to be there period, if you're there in public and you're dealing with somebody, that body cameras can be on a hundred percent. And we had a rule in there too You're not muting it, you're not turning it off intermittently, it's it's it's running for the duration of the call.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, agreed, alan.
Speaker 3:I was lost in the focus of being a blonde at the moment. No, um, like we didn't even, I'll be real honest, we didn't even have a policy for the first four years of me carrying the body camera and, uh, like you know, once I you know it was just treated the same way as our in-car camera. As soon as, uh, you know, showing up to the scene, I turned it on and turned it off when I left. So so you know, most like ours, we uh didn't ever turn the little red light on or the yellow light on, so you pretty much couldn't tell ours were on, uh, unless you felt it vibrate.
Speaker 3:And so, um, it was, you know it just became a common knowledge that I ever, once in a while, felt it vibrating, so I knew it was still working. I didn't even operate to the body camera. I you know, it was just part of my uniform.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can tell you right now that I've never heard of any policy that allows me to turn my body camera off at the request of some civilian citizen. Even if I know you're the prosecutor or a judge or whatever, nothing that I've ever heard of will let me turn my body camera off while I'm actively investigating a call. So the fact that they're trying to get him to turn his body camera off tells me they know that they're in the wrong and they're trying to hide that. So you guys have heard me say listen, I'm all about accountability and transparency with cops, but I think you all need to push a little harder, a little farther. I think you need to push that towards courts. I think you need to push that towards corrections, because you guys got the cops covered. It's getting better and better.
Speaker 1:I always think police is improving, although we do see setbacks. Don't get me wrong. I'm an optimistic person. I do see a lot of great things. I think policing, if you're looking at it like you're looking at the stocks, it's got its dips, but it it's continuously going up.
Speaker 4:So we're getting better yes, we want to slap the shit out of the ones that create the dips. We're right there with you. Yeah, the ones that are doing good high five friggin, then treat them the way they. They should be treated as a as a base officer. But the ones that are causing the dip in that stock market, like there's eric just said I'm going to build a bar, yeah, we're going to have VIP parking and we're going to have I the night said not saying you did this, but it's only great if it's not messed with.
Speaker 1:Officers shouldn't be permitted to mute or turn their cams off until after they're separated from the call Agreed.
Speaker 8:A hundred percent agreed. It's as much for officer accountability as it is officer safety.
Speaker 1:I think that's one of the things I used to think. There were times when cameras should be muted, like if my wife calls in or whatever. And then I started to think about some of the arguments that our followers have mentioned. Our members have mentioned is that's what the redaction team's for, and I'm like you know what. You're right. That's what they get paid to do. So why mute it? Period, if it's going out, it needs to be filtered and they need to figure out what needs to be allowed and what doesn't.
Speaker 1:That's not my job. My job as the cop is to make sure I get everything while I'm out there. So if you're a police department that's out there and you've got a policy that allows your guys to mute it, I say you get rid of that. Get rid of that. Even if it's a tactical team, like we go to tactics or SWAT guys and all that stuff and they talk about that then fucking redact it, mute it afterwards. It's not that hard. That's what it's for. I'm with you guys on that one. Andy Fletcher's with me. Yay, eric, I feel like Andy just got his pom-poms out. You bootlicker. Andy's a bootlicker. Andy. You bootlicking son of a bitch. How dare you agree with me. I got him, I got him. I got him Burn. All right, sick burn, sick burn. Yeah, let's keep going. I don't like that. It keeps putting badge 502 at the bottom. I feel bad for you. I'm not even doing that here, here, hold on.
Speaker 8:Oh, oh, there you go. Now I get to be on top of eric.
Speaker 2:there you go that makes erica switch okay, no, no, I understand you don't want to deal with it but the protocol is and your protocol is.
Speaker 3:If I ask you to turn off the body cam, you have to turn it off that's not a protocol, ever anywhere.
Speaker 1:That's a want to call. Sorry, that's a want to call. Yeah, that's a want to call. That's not a protocol. That's a T-shirt idea right there. Want to call? All right, keep going.
Speaker 2:That's your protocol. She's a lord.
Speaker 1:By the way, does anybody else get the movie White Girls? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God. I think they're used to not being told no, very often trying to push their chest that's all I see coming right now.
Speaker 1:You want to talk about mothers?
Speaker 4:I applaud if you don't get your voice. I always struggle with that man yeah, I'm sure you do Banning.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, you're all man. I've got very high feminine tendencies.
Speaker 4:That's a qualification for the Air Force to get in. I'm not a white girl.
Speaker 1:My bad White chicks. That's what I was thinking of, oh shit.
Speaker 6:So she knows. Well that's lawyer stuff, so that's not true. So we got to go.
Speaker 2:No, it is that's law. I'm an AG.
Speaker 3:I'm an AG. Good for you. I don't give a shit, let's go.
Speaker 8:Beautiful response. That's the best response ever.
Speaker 1:Okay, listen For those that are watching this. She just name dropped her position. Now you're trying to use your title to get you through something legally.
Speaker 4:Fuck you, you need to be fired? Yep, right now, right, and you need to ride tonight to understand the insides you know. Be better at your freaking job.
Speaker 1:Yep, she needs to be fired absolutely. You just tried to use your position, which I don't. Is the AG like a political position? I don't know. Ag is probably appointed, right, yeah, appointed, or something like that. Like, no, you're done, I don't care that you can't handle your booze, that that you being publicly intoxicated is one thing, I it's a ticket, I don't care. But you trying to use your position, you just screwed up, fired right away, even even outdoors, is like boom make me want to look at some of her cases and realize.
Speaker 4:If she truly is one, how is she, uh, how is she presenting these?
Speaker 1:yeah, and I'm with acorn on this one.
Speaker 8:He's like that was great, I'm an ag I don't give a fuck, that's exactly how it should be yeah, the amount of I could not care less that came out of that man's voice, yeah oh, jesus, I can't read this one.
Speaker 1:You are inappropriate, sir, but that's funny, so anyway. Yeah, let's keep going so part of the argument was made like are they on a public sidewalk? I would argue no, because we got tables out here so it seems like we're on this restaurant club's property um that's probably paid for space there yeah, some sort of paid for space, exactly like you're saying banning. You got anything on that?
Speaker 4:nope, I I think we're still good for public. I mean, the public has direct access. Look where the police cars parked at. It's obviously a drivable alley. Yeah, public's got direct access. I mean. So if this keeps going on and on, they're they're doing their best not to take enforcement action. They probably have several calls holding in that area yeah, yeah, and I love that.
Speaker 1:He just looked over at the husband and goes can you get your children? Listen? I'm all for being professional, but as soon as you start dropping that, you're an ag. Yep, my professionalism is gone. You've lost it. I'm giving you the full. The full, I like this tactic.
Speaker 1:He's trying to wake them up. I think what he's really trying to do is sober them up. He's saying I'm done, you're being detained, and I think he's got plenty enough to detain them. You've clearly got public intoxication. So I think he's trying to take a moment to sober them up and say to this guy, the, the husband over there, you gotta get him out of here. Like I'm not trying to arrest him, but you, you're not listening and I gotta do something extreme to wake you up you are not immune.
Speaker 4:You're about to go for a ride. Wake the hell up or it's it's go time yes, exactly, uh.
Speaker 1:Wade lucero said trespass, obstruction, assault on an officer and resisting what else? Um, and mr billfold said that's a public easement. Um, yeah, and that's where it kind of gets tricky. This is where I kind of like I'm like all right, you're trying to trespass somebody, but is that a public area or is that the restaurant's area? If the restaurant is like kind of, what badge 502 was saying is is if that's an area that they're paying for, because that's possible. I see that in Miami all the time.
Speaker 4:Chairs and the tables out there.
Speaker 8:More than likely that easement stretches to the curb line Right If they have the chairs and the tables out there, more than likely that easement stretches to the curb line Right when you have the cafes with the tables and everything part of their property is that area.
Speaker 1:Yes, so in that, when that's the case, and it's probably one of those things that they only have it at night, it's probably like a nighttime thing.
Speaker 8:From this time to this time, it's your area, kind of like when you have, for instance, over here I don't know how it is out by you guys, but we have a lot of hot dog trucks out here. It's public roadway, but as soon as that hot dog truck's there, that's now their property, that's their property.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly Just hook her up and she can tell the CO how many phone calls she's entitled to Take a ride, Blondie.
Speaker 1:Mr Biltmore is on it tonight. I love it.
Speaker 5:I'm an AG. I'm an AG.
Speaker 1:Everybody's an AG.
Speaker 5:What's wrong with you?
Speaker 3:What are you talking about? You're being great. If she just said that, can you spell that?
Speaker 1:Can you spell AG for me? Can you repeat that backwards? What?
Speaker 3:does that mean? Can you repeat that backwards?
Speaker 1:I'd have been like yeah, I'm an AG too. All guns, baby, all guns. Can you relax, sir?
Speaker 8:she's not doing anything wrong, ag, I'm an AG.
Speaker 2:She's an AG, you're not.
Speaker 6:Let's go. I'm not being arrested.
Speaker 8:You're putting me in cuffs. I'm not AG. She's an AG. She's an AG. I'm not being arrested. You're putting me in cuffs.
Speaker 6:Do you have any weapons on you?
Speaker 8:No.
Speaker 6:I'm an AG.
Speaker 3:You're literally an AG.
Speaker 5:Let me tell you something.
Speaker 8:Let me tell you something. Linda, Linda, Linda.
Speaker 4:Booking in one, possibly two Karens at the end of this.
Speaker 1:So just because you're put in cuffs does not mean you're arrested. I understand the implication. I understand how some people can know that If you're an AG, you know that that's not the case. You know that you can be detained in handcuffs. Now I would argue on behalf of the general public that if they get put in cuffs, it's reasonable for them to think they're being arrested. But you're an AG, as you've told us a million times. You should know better that. He told you you're not under arrest, you're being detained. And you keep arguing. You put me in handcuffs, I'm under arrest. So it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3:What are you doing Seriously?
Speaker 2:You're arresting me, EG. Let me tell you something. Are you under arrest right now?
Speaker 3:No, you're putting me in handcuffs and you're marandizing me. You're not marandizing me.
Speaker 7:I'm not questioning you, oh my god.
Speaker 1:Okay, badge 502 said it 502, that is incredible that you know that, and you're not even a cop, so explain. I'm a First Amendment auditor.
Speaker 8:So, Miranda is for when you're going to be questioned. I'm not questioning you, I'm kicking you off a three-foot sidewalk. Kick rocks, lady.
Speaker 1:Correct. All right. Now for those wondering what we're talking about with Miranda the way that Miranda works and we see this all the time on the New York police shows as soon as they start putting cuffs on him, like, you've got the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you. In a court of law, you have the right to an attorney Da-da-da-da-da. And they keep going down that line. That's not how it works in real life. That's not how it works. You only get the Miranda red to you if they're going to question you once you're under custodial arrest. A regular street cop is not going to question you. He's got enough. He doesn't need any more. He arrested. He doesn't need any more. He arrested you, so now you're going to jail. He doesn't give a shit about anything else. He got what he needed, so he doesn't need to question you. And it's the same for these tv shows that you see, like blue bloods and and law and order and all these things.
Speaker 1:When you see him get arrested, they start reading the miranda rights. The only way that they're going to start reading you the miranda rights is if they continue to question you about a crime after the fact of arrest. That is what they're talking about. So in this it's a simple PI. Nobody gives a shit. They're not questioning you about anything or trespass. I told you to leave. You refused to leave. Now you're going to jail for trespass Criminal trespass. There's no questioning. So you don't need to read Miranda. So I can't for the life of me figure out banning. Why the fuck she's like you didn't read me, my Miranda rights.
Speaker 4:I'm questioning if she's a secretary within the building.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't feel like she's an actual AG.
Speaker 4:And then she probably tells the AG you want me to say I'm an AG and he's like I'm just kidding me to say I'm an AG and he's like I'm just kidding, Can I pull this card?
Speaker 8:He'll get me out, he'll get me out.
Speaker 1:That's going to help.
Speaker 3:Her husband is the AG.
Speaker 4:Oh, that would be bad. Just tell him you're an AG. He'll never know.
Speaker 1:You know what? There's a lot of Marine and Army lieutenants that, like the lieutenants''s wives, that like to pull that card at the gate what do we call that? You're gonna regret it. What is that?
Speaker 4:right, yeah, retaliatory, but retaliatory, yeah, and she's definitely not a reasonable and prudent person by any stretch of the imagination you just said you're the ag, so you threw that card out there.
Speaker 8:Now you're threatening retaliation so big smile on her face too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's super happy.
Speaker 2:Wow, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 8:Get your hands off. Me Get your hands off me, we will get the license.
Speaker 6:No, no, no, get out of here.
Speaker 1:Get back Get back right now.
Speaker 2:Get the data team. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm right here. I'm right here, it's okay, I'm right here, no, no.
Speaker 5:I'm right here.
Speaker 3:He's right there, I'm right here, come on babe, no, no.
Speaker 1:Easy, easy boy Babe babe, All right.
Speaker 4:Babe, I'm right here, no babe babe, please, I'm here.
Speaker 2:I'm right here, please, I'm here.
Speaker 7:Please, I'm here no.
Speaker 5:Please, I'm scared. I'm right here, please, I'm serious.
Speaker 7:Please, I'm serious. No, I'm not going to find those. I'm asking, I'm right here.
Speaker 8:No, okay, no, please. I'll do this twice, brian.
Speaker 2:I'm right here. No, no, no Babe.
Speaker 7:Babe, I'm right here, babe, I'm right here.
Speaker 1:No, babe, relax. What's wrong with you? Yeah, that's resisting. For sure. There's a charge for resisting detention or arrest. So you know what else you'll regret Not going to CODs. I love that you guys have made this into a thing, it is a thing. But my friends in AG center oh my God. Ag is an already going to jail. That's what the AG stands for.
Speaker 1:So, use a. Use a Kimora. You spelled Kimora wrong, but that that's okay. I understood what you meant. Um, yeah, why are we? I'm telling you, girls that are under 100 pounds are some of the worst to try to. It is one of the hardest fights of your life because you're you're in a weird position if I do too much and keeping them in cuffs like, yeah, if I do too much, I'm going to break them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I do too much I'm going to break them, but they're wiring, they get around a lot of things and they can hurt you like a cat. Better with the boulder wrap. The boulder wrap, oh my God, one of the most gimmicky fucking tools out there.
Speaker 4:They need to tell that dude to go home and get his frigging pants back.
Speaker 8:Yes.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry man, I don't think he will. If he's not going to do anything. Paya, go somewhere else and find somebody else. You know, Say Paya.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's what he was hoping for, man.
Speaker 4:They may have been wearing him out like she's been wearing that cop's up.
Speaker 1:Marine bloods. Do you have more videos of ag's being arrested? Join the discards discord so you can share them. Oh, let's keep going we don't want to put you in handcuffs. Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 8:No, we don't want you did you're making, you're overreacting, you're adding to it, you're overreacting.
Speaker 6:No.
Speaker 1:My 10th and 18th.
Speaker 6:Please take my hands off. Please take my hands off, no.
Speaker 7:Please take my hands off.
Speaker 3:You're overreacting. You didn't have to have this happen.
Speaker 5:Get in the car, no, no.
Speaker 6:No.
Speaker 5:Babe, no, you got two to take. No, no, no, no, babe, no, no, no.
Speaker 8:Get back. Get back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2:Get your feet in the car.
Speaker 4:Go on the other side Come on.
Speaker 7:I'm right here.
Speaker 1:I'm right here watching you get your ass fucking arrested. If it's me, I'm going to the other side of the car and I'm going to pull her across so she doesn't kick.
Speaker 4:And that dude's winking at other blonde chicks and lying going in the club. He's like I'll be around in a second.
Speaker 1:He's like I'll be around in a second. He's like finally, I got my first night of freedom.
Speaker 8:It's normal when we left the house.
Speaker 1:Listen, right now I don't have anything other than the possibility that we're trying to trespass from a public sidewalk. That's the only little implement on this that I would give against the officers, but other than that, I'm I'm a hundred percent on their side. I'm 99% on their side.
Speaker 4:I'm thinking you're probably going to see a frigging PI on that as well.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, public in talks, for sure, for sure. Which is that's an arrest all day. I'm just curious if they're going to try to arrest her for trespass and if that is not an actual thing, in that position.
Speaker 4:Depends on the state. What is that? Newport News, virginia? All I saw was Newport, so I don't know what state it's in.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't even know. Craig said, said still think they should have just turned their body cam off, like she requested, and then tased her nothing beats a jet two holiday oh, country girl truth, country girl doesn't fucking play though she's, she's. I would never want to fight country girl, that's for sure.
Speaker 8:Dave, dave, no, get your feet in the car. Who the fuck are-.
Speaker 5:Get your feet in the car.
Speaker 8:You're a grown adult, you're acting like a kid.
Speaker 1:Dan, I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3:Dan, you're a grown adult. You're acting like a kid. Dan, dave, dave, dan, I'm gonna go back partner.
Speaker 2:No, Dan, please Get your feet in the car.
Speaker 7:No, no, dan, no, dave, dave no.
Speaker 8:Get your feet in the car. Who the fuck are you In the car? You're a grown adult. You're acting like a kid. I don't understand.
Speaker 2:Dan no.
Speaker 7:Who the f*** are you? This is so inappropriate. You're overreacting, dan.
Speaker 8:Dan she sucks.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 8:What do?
Speaker 1:you mean? What do you mean, sir? I think she sucks, yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean, sir? I think she's an AG yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't get where you're coming from Unbelievable. I like it. Miro. Does she expect babe?
Speaker 8:I don't know, but he is right there.
Speaker 1:Mr Bill Fould can't fight ccg and she shoots. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you can't. Uh, so yeah, guys, um, I'm just gonna say this, like when you start dropping your title and I put some videos out of mayors that do it there's a good one of a mayor that gets pulled over on a traffic stop and calls the chief immediately.
Speaker 1:he doesn't know who I am. I'm like no, fired immediately the moment you try to start using your position. You know what I do when I get pulled over I fucking eat it. Ah, shit, yeah, shit, yeah, my bad, especially if I know I'm wrong. There have been some times I had a guy pull me over. One time he said I rolled the stop sign. I'm like, oh shit, I legitimately didn't think I did. I didn't know I did, but I didn't go. I'm a cop, yep.
Speaker 8:You're a cop and you rolled the stop sign.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't do that. If, if it happens to be something that comes up, like if you ask if I have any weapons in the car, I always leave the door open. Yep, I have a weapon in the car, sir, all right. Hey, uh, where's the weapon at? It's over here, I'm right. You see my credentials and they're always like yep, I want a secret. So I've shown that. So AG stands for always guilty Yep, yep man.
Speaker 4:I'm going to follow this one up and see where this one goes.
Speaker 1:Tim, want to be your daddy. Come to Discord and tell us that's the best one tonight. The best one tonight.
Speaker 3:There's definitely going to be handcuffs involved. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1:While you got the husband cucking in the corner.
Speaker 4:Oh, she went way out in left field.
Speaker 8:Is this real satin?
Speaker 1:All right, let's go to some body camera view.
Speaker 3:Okay, All right, Somebody Brian just said that was the assistant attorney general.
Speaker 4:Oh Wonder how she got through school. She obviously didn't retain anything.
Speaker 8:Nope, yep, that's bad news, that might be one of the best videos you've shown us oh for sure.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Twitter.
Speaker 1:We may have to start showing Twitter or X, sorry. Alright, let's biggie size and let's go. This is from Police Activity on YouTube 98 and 94, 23.
Speaker 2:Right here, right here, put the gun down, okay.
Speaker 1:I immediately saw that. Did you guys see it, Benny? Did you see where the bad guy was located? Are you muted, Benny?
Speaker 4:Am I back now? There you go, yeah, sorry. Yeah, did you mute the part I muted it because I had to pour more water into my cup.
Speaker 1:Oh, water, of course, hydrogen, okay. So yeah, if I show up on scene and the bad guy starts firing at me, I guess the only natural uh, the only natural response is to just fire back. Um, by the way, there's a shirtless man in our discord.
Speaker 4:I see it right now I hope that guy that's shooting at him is not a freakinggin' AG man.
Speaker 1:Jesus.
Speaker 4:You know how.
Speaker 1:I know it's not an AG Banning.
Speaker 4:How's that?
Speaker 1:He hasn't told us he's an AG. Oh, that's right.
Speaker 4:What a bum.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, all right, let's keep going here. Apparently, he's holding the vehicle. Jesus, those are rifle rounds. Yes, like 12 of them. Yes, if you can't see the shell right here, that is a rifle round. Where's the gun? Where's the gun?
Speaker 2:okay, I, I have no fucking clue what happened here.
Speaker 1:Guns right here you hear the scene. I like it, got it Okay. I have no fucking clue what happened here.
Speaker 4:He lost all his money inside the casino and came outside and took it out on everybody. Is that what happened? I saw something about a casino.
Speaker 1:Okay, reno, nevada, along with partnering agencies, report of an active shooter so he went out on a shooting spree before the police even were called. Arrived on scene two and a half minutes and immediately located the suspect. So that's very good response time. When officers arrived on scene, suspect immediately started firing at officers Okay, pretty open and officers Okay, pretty open and shut. Active shooter showed up two and a half minutes later.
Speaker 4:Stopped, the active shooter Dispatched.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was very well done. I'm only using a Mossberg in service. Yeah, I saw the shotgun too. You don't see that? A Mossberg in service? Yeah, I saw the shotgun too. You don't see that. A whole lot. No Marine Blood. They did not blur all the Kool-Aid. That's a good way to put it. I love it.
Speaker 8:Oh shit, I can tell you right now this EH, taylor, I can tell you guys right now this EH Taylor, I can tell you guys right now Good old Colonel man, good old.
Speaker 1:Colonel in one of my videos.
Speaker 4:I am loving it. Okay, did you get that from the AG, or was that giving you a signal? Oh shit, coupons on our Discord. Don't forget to swing by our Discord.
Speaker 1:I love the way you said that.
Speaker 8:Discord I'm new to Discord.
Speaker 1:Okay, like the kernel check out a picture of it in the Discord. You know, I do find it odd that Badge502's mic is complete opposite of everybody that we ever see.
Speaker 8:This is like dangling it might hang just this way yeah.
Speaker 2:Ugh.
Speaker 8:I'm going to have to go like this there you go.
Speaker 1:All right, let me see here. All right, you guys, let's biggie size this one. There we go. That's my biggie size sound. What did that say 167 million Powerball jackpot winner gets tased what he's going to be able to score the AG. Let me tell you this right now If I win 167 million dollars, you ain't going to see me? I'm probably going to get tased. I'm probably going to get tased too.
Speaker 8:I'm going to act a fool, I'm going, going to get it, I'm probably going to get a taste too.
Speaker 1:I'm going to act a fool. I'm going to act a fool. I love my lieutenant, but I may go act a fool in front of him just to see what he does, just one time. Lt. I do this out of love and then take a shit out of the desk, I don't know. See what happens. Alright, we'll probably get some sound here in a second. How are we gonna ignore the dude that was just laying on the? Floor hold on, let's go back. Yeah, there's a person just laying out how the fuck did we just?
Speaker 8:how do we gloss over that?
Speaker 4:hey, that's a public easement, don't even say anything to him normal.
Speaker 1:Here we got a call about a random dude, not this guy. This ain't our call, we ain't we're gonna keep going that's the most emt shit I've ever seen, right there I've seen emt's drive right by. We got a guy on the ground. That's not our call. We're dealing with something else he's bleeding out. That's not our call. That one may have peed on himself.
Speaker 3:I'm out.
Speaker 8:This guy's on the phone. He's like yeah, I don't know. Oh, oh, shit I was looking at comments I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I was looking at comments. What is this guy doing?
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me? Oh, was that good on the ground?
Speaker 1:In the May, fight this dude's shirtless. Alan, where were you on? I'm going to go back. I want to go back to when we made contact with this dude.
Speaker 3:Well, if you go to our Discord, you might see a shirtless man right now.
Speaker 4:Is that blonde chick sitting right there? The AG no.
Speaker 1:Dude, you aren't lying. That looks like her, doesn't it? It does look like her, newport, nevada. All right, let's keep going here. I want to see oh, okay, he's fighting shirtless guy. I didn't see that. Okay, so these guys are all right. He's got a little rear naked choke going on. I'm all right with that.
Speaker 4:Hey, shirtless, I think there's another one.
Speaker 1:No, no, he's got neon shoes, so he gets this guy and he's like this guy's like I don't want, yeah, this. This guy tried to kick the cop for unknown reason.
Speaker 2:On the ground. No, he's 12, step it up.
Speaker 6:I just got kicked you enough, he's 12, step it up. I just got kicked.
Speaker 5:Relax, do not Just stay down. No, you're not. No, you're not.
Speaker 2:Stay right fucking here, you enough. I didn't even know you were here, doesn't fucking make a difference.
Speaker 1:No, that actually does make a pretty big difference. The guy was actively in a fight with fucking nut job in a shirtless and just kicked you by the way.
Speaker 4:I wonder if a shirtless and just kicked you, by the way, I wonder if shirtless guy is a buddy of his and they just got in a squabble.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it kind of looks that way. Possibly, or maybe he's just a good Samaritan who's trying to get this guy to fucking chill out.
Speaker 3:What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2:I got popped in the face.
Speaker 1:Securing everyone. He said I got popped in the face. Yeah, I get that. Secure everybody, you're by yourself. No shirt, no shirt.
Speaker 8:He got served pretty good, he did get served.
Speaker 1:He got served a foot to the face.
Speaker 2:You stay there. Sit your goofy ass on that, put your hands behind your back right and go fuck now.
Speaker 5:Put your hands behind your back, get him.
Speaker 1:Most drunk eyes ever.
Speaker 4:I thought that was Aquaman for a second.
Speaker 1:He's got that.
Speaker 8:Aquaman scale.
Speaker 1:I was about to say the same thing, Aquaman damn, he let himself go Shit. He believed in two things fish and Jesus.
Speaker 3:Is that a younger Tim?
Speaker 6:Hey guys, you want to know what's going on with him.
Speaker 1:These days he's in the MMA fighting with police. See it in the.
Speaker 4:Discord yeah I was going to say he's about to tell these officers, you can put my charges in discord.
Speaker 2:Fucking wall against the wall.
Speaker 1:Take down buddy.
Speaker 2:No, I have one on the ground there. He fucking kicked me in the face.
Speaker 8:He's fucking gone, let's go back Fucking wall, let's go back Against the wall.
Speaker 1:Okay, takedown, boom. Not only did he just, he collected, he lifted, collected, he lifted and took him down. Pure scrimmage, yep.
Speaker 8:Taser deployed no how long was I on there?
Speaker 2:oh, he's bleeding he fucking kicked me in the face.
Speaker 1:He's fucking going yeah, that's a good read that's good alright pass game two fucking going. Yeah, that's a good read that's good, all right I just want to say this is like one of the ugliest, wannabe looking hotel resort things I've ever seen.
Speaker 4:I've been to some bad ones, trust me it's 2am, the bar closed and this fucking place is open yeah they're allowing you to be IOB, so come on in and party.
Speaker 1:Outdoors.
Speaker 3:This is perfect, I think they have a place like this down in. Odessa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah All right boys, we got it. We got to at least get him in the recovery position.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I get it. He had the tackle coming all of that, but we got to get him in the recovery position Fight over, get medics there and then figure out what the hell you got. Mt, can you explain to us the recovery position and what it's for?
Speaker 8:Put them on your side, Make sure they can breathe. If they throw up, you throw up out and they don't throw up in.
Speaker 1:Yep Keeps the airway clear. I like it. Well, the medics may be tied up over on the other.
Speaker 8:call the Medics are 25 feet away.
Speaker 1:No they're with the AG right now.
Speaker 8:The cover condition is pretty amazing. It's just the simplicity of the things that have changed.
Speaker 6:He fucking kicked me, he's gone.
Speaker 5:You see, I have man, you walk up and you fucking kick him and you hit me in the fucking face. I'm sorry, man.
Speaker 8:Alright.
Speaker 5:Have you ever been?
Speaker 8:kicked in the face, no, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Speaker 1:Fair, he apologized. I mean, Maybe you weren't his intended target. Yeah, he couldn't stand up. I wouldn't be far-fetched to say his kick just missed.
Speaker 5:I mean.
Speaker 8:Maybe you weren't his intended target I mean the dude. He couldn't stand up. I wouldn't be far fetched to say his cake just missed.
Speaker 4:And don't forget to ask if they want a criminal trespass Before they take him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, solicit that trespass before you go.
Speaker 8:Save your fucking stories for later. He's pissed. He's a parrot. That dude's big mad he's like.
Speaker 1:Keep your that dude's big mad he's like stuff your scars in a sack. He didn't even know what to say. You kicked me in the face, man Relax man Busted me right in the mouth, Mark. Relax, it's police work, bro. You get hit, it happens. Don't take it personal, just relax, oh shit, you'll look fine, you'll. Don't take it personal, just relax, oh shit, you'll look fine, you'll be okay, I promise so. All right, that is, that's it. That's what we got tonight. That's all the videos that we've got right now.
Speaker 8:You found some bangers today, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we had some good stuff. We're at two and a half hours. I think. You know me and banning got a flight to catch tomorrow, so we do, we do can't wait. Can't wait to hear the update. Yeah, we've got some good stuff going on. Um, yeah, it's gonna be good. Um, I can't wait and my hope is this is the catalyst to get some, some bigger things, uh, off the ground. Um, badge 502. I know I've talked to you offline on some things. I definitely think, if these take off, we're going to be able to come up with some little, because your thing's comedy baby.
Speaker 8:You got some cool ideas, you do.
Speaker 1:And I want to take those ideas and put them into something that has the production that it deserves, because there's only you know how it is. There's only so much we can do from our fucking basement, so I want to get that stuff going. But looking over at the comments, uh, marine blood said you know, the hotel mall should ask officers to leave their cars there. The flashing lights add to the decoration. Yeah, all they had was the white lights on the fake palm trees.
Speaker 4:Man, I'm just glad we got to go freaking live. I didn't know if we were going to be able to go live.
Speaker 1:I know I can't believe it. We spent about a half hour trying to get that fucking troubleshooted.
Speaker 4:Man, the whole time y'all were doing that, I was applying for the AG's position. Here, I'll let y' you know how it goes.
Speaker 8:I hear it's open these days.
Speaker 4:There's a link in our Discord if anybody wants to go apply.
Speaker 1:Eric Levine for AG. I can't do it because when I get drunk I would never say I'm the AG.
Speaker 4:Steve needs more videos.
Speaker 1:he'll give you his id he's giving up the id crack. I love it. Oh shit, no, it was great. Uh, good episode tonight, guys. Um, appreciate it, I've, I've got a shutdown, I've got a lot of packing to do and these cameras that I'm using I have to take with me. So, um, only one like is that all we got tonight was one like god damn weird. We don't push that shit enough. I guess I think that's the problem, guys, listen, it doesn't. I'm not asking for you to give us money. I haven't talked about money at all tonight, except for at the beginning. Um, yeah, uh, if you can't donate, that's fine. I don't want your hard-earned money. I would rather you just like, follow and, uh, subscribe. That stuff helps us a lot. So if you could do that, that would help out a lot. Uh, badge 502 before we get out of here. How can people find you, brother? I?
Speaker 8:I am all over social media. Everything is Badge502 except for Instagram, because somebody beat me to the draw that little rat fink, it's EMTBadge502 over there. We also have our YouTube and our TikTok and our Facebook and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes, so for all of our people, please especially try to find Badge502's YouTube channel.
Speaker 8:Come check it out. You can especially try to find badge 502's youtube channel.
Speaker 1:I want to check it out, but you can check it out at badge 502.com has all the links to everything and, yeah, I want her store and all that good stuff. I want that to grow. I want his youtube to get up there.
Speaker 8:So me too. I have such a nice plaque spot and I can't fill it.
Speaker 1:What's crazy to me is you have an incredible amount of followers on facebook, instagram. Uh, we're close to three mil across everything.
Speaker 8:Tiktok's at like 860, yeah uh. Instagram's at like six and change.
Speaker 1:Facebook's at like five and change which is crazy, but your youtube is not there she's a tough egg to crack tiktok's at 660 tiktok's.
Speaker 8:the hard egg to crack TikTok's that 660.
Speaker 1:For me, tiktok's the hard egg to crack. Now don't get me wrong. Listen everybody, I am not Two Cops, One Donut is not at the numbers that he is at at all, Because on Instagram and all that shit he is murdering us.
Speaker 8:I'm super famous. That's why I wear Gray Haynes t-shirts.
Speaker 1:But TikTok, I cannot. I'm at maybe 20,000, which is, don't get me wrong, I'm very appreciative of that, but everything else is 150,000. I don't know how you get it. I don't know how you get it, but what I really want to grow is, if you haven't found out, tonight is our Discord channel.
Speaker 8:Want to help grow Anthony's YouTube Join.
Speaker 1:Top 1. Donuts Discord, yes, but yeah, anthony, we're going to. I think we may already have a channel for you on there, maybe not, but that's definitely something that we want to do is have a channel for you on there. Maybe not, but that's definitely something that we want to do is have a channel on there, just so people can come ask you questions. You get to it when you get to it. I don't want you to feel Tom attend me. Yeah, I don't want you to feel obligated to.
Speaker 8:I got told 76 times to put my Discord up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks to Tim. Tim was killing it tonight. Uh, banning, what do you got? Closing comments sir.
Speaker 4:I think it was a great video. I'm glad the powers that be finally let us get online. I'm looking forward to this week. I think everybody, once they see the, the pretty, the, the fit, the finish I can't talk finish product of what we're going to do in Scottsdale is going to be amazing. We're going to try to bring y'all some outstanding content out there, and if y'all could just help us uh like and throw it out if you like and you want to throw it out, obviously, but I think it's going to be great, man, I think it's going to be frigging awesome. Uh, what Eric is developing here, and thank you to Chris and Paulina, and I think this whole plan is coming together. I think it's amazing, man, it's right around the corner.
Speaker 1:baby Alan, you got any?
Speaker 3:closing comments. Brother, no, just thanks for having me and bearing with us.
Speaker 1:I couldn't figure it out, that was good, we were all trying to figure it out, we just had to go offline and need a power ring and came back on.
Speaker 4:We're good, I like it All. We just had to go offline and need a power ring and came back on.
Speaker 1:We're good, I like it All. Right, guys, Everybody have a good night. Thanks for joining in. Take it easy. Thanks y'all.
Speaker 8:Take care.
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