Justice, Mustaches, And Body Cams

A mustache may grab the chat, but the story starts with something bigger: a cop-creator wins his badge back. We kick off with Officer Honey Badger’s reinstatement and why it matters for transparency, policy, and the growing number of officers trying to educate the public with real footage and real analysis. From there, we sprint into the gear that actually changes outcomes—a two-pound, pocket-friendly AED that talks you through a rescue. Imagine it in every patrol car, every security fleet, even bundled by automakers and supported by insurers. Seconds save lives, and design makes seconds possible.

Then the heat turns up. A lieutenant colonel refuses to roll down her window after speeding. We unpack the law you can use in the real world: what Mims allows, what Rodriguez limits, and why “reasonableness” is the backbone of good police work when the stop doesn’t neatly end the moment paper hits a hand. We show how roadside transparency—like presenting a dash video on the spot—can defuse arguments and save court time. We also watch sovereign citizen scripts wilt where they always do: inside a courtroom ruled by precedent, not YouTube law.

The hardest segment is a use-of-force failure you can’t unsee: a taser deployed too close, a gun brought in at contact range, and a life ended without necessity. We call it straight and offer a fix that’s bigger than a memo: make grappling competency a prerequisite to the badge. Wrestling, jiu-jitsu, judo—skills that keep you calm under pressure and lower force across the board. It’s not about being a tough guy; it’s about control, patience, and humility.

To remind you why the job matters, we highlight what good looks like. Officers lift an ejected infant from beneath a rolled car and bring her back with CPR. Another cop grabs an extinguisher and smothers a man in flames, then coaches his breathing until fire arrives. A domestic with a knife turns on seconds: a door is breached, the victim and suspect are separated in a sentence, and lifesaving care follows. Through each frame, the pattern is the

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open, Housekeeping, Community Support
• 3:20 Officer Honey Badger Reinstated With Back Pay
• 9:10 IACP Recap And Game-Changing Pocket AED
• 18:20 Sponsor Spotlight: Peregrine And Integrations
• 20:30 Military Colonel Stop: Windows, Radar, And Mims
• 36:44 Red-Light Case, Rodriguez, And Reasonableness
• 49:54 TikTok Cop Dancing Debate And Professionalism
• 53:44 Sovereign Citizen Playbook Meets Real Courtrooms
• 1:09:44 Use Of Force Breakdown: Taser Failure To Bad Shoot
• 1:27:44 Training Gap: Why Cops Must Learn Grappling
• 1:43:34 Hero Save: Baby Pulled From Rollover And Revived
• 1:50:24 Man On Fire Rescue: Fast Extinguisher And Care
• 1:53:34 Foot Chase, Dropped Gun, And Legal Concerns
• 2:00:54 Helicopter Callout: Replica Gun, One Shot Stop
• 2:08:14 Domestic Knife Attack: Rapid Entry And Triage
• 2:15:34 Station Ram: Vehicle Ambush And Crossfire Risks
• 2:23:04 Transparency, Standards, And Federal vs State
• 2:36:04 Closing Updates, Tech & Order Backer, Discord

Transcript

SPEAKER_24: 0:00

Disclaimer, welcome to Two Cops One Donut Podcast. The views and opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Two Cops One Donut, its host or affiliate. The podcast is intended for entertainment and informational purposes only. We do not endorse any guests' opinions or actions discussed during the show. Any content provided by guests is of their own volition, and listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions. Furthermore, some content is graphic and has harsh language. Your discretion advised and is intended for mature audiences. Two Cops One Donut and its host do not accept any liability for statements or actions taken by guests. Thank you for listening. Welcome back to Cops One Donut. Truly two Cops One Donut today. I am your host, Eric Levine, and I have with me the one and the only banning sweatland. What's up, buddy?

SPEAKER_01: 1:00

What's up, brother?

SPEAKER_24: 1:01

Oh, nothing. Just uh rocking this, you know, killer firefighter mustache. A little shout out to my firefighters out there.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10

We're just just supporting all the we always support all the first responders, and Eric likes to do it by mirroring at times. So that's all right.

SPEAKER_24: 1:19

You know, we gotta have heroes too, you know.

unknown: 1:20

That's right.

SPEAKER_24: 1:22

Oh, I see my mods are throwing up the buy-me a a coffee uh link up there. Hey guys, we we're not here to try to take your hard-earned cash, but if you do want to help support what we do and keep this thing going, all the money that gets donated um goes directly into the show. It's not like we sit here and pocket thousands of dollars from y'all. Um, we're lucky to get maybe two to four hundred bucks in a month, and we look forward to that because that absolutely supports everything that we provide with this free content that we put out. So thank you very much for any support you can push out there. Thank you. Um so you got your mom in the house. Uh yeah, uh looking through. I want to look before we get too far. He said, look like my dad. He has he has the prick mustache as well. Love it. Uh, if you're wondering why I shaved, I have a military ceremony coming up, and I like to have fun with uh shaving the growth off there. So the first day that I shaved, I decided to go with the full um what's his name? Uh Hulk Hogan handlebar mustache.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 2:29

And you guys can see that in a couple videos that I made. Uh just I was just trying to get some engagement going so people could focus on the mustache instead of the actual content.

SPEAKER_01: 2:37

I I couldn't even listen to the content, and I was focusing just on the mustache. So it's just like Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 2:42

So I was like, there's a strategy behind this. This will cause some engagement.

SPEAKER_01: 2:46

Um I'm sure it took a lot of people back to uh super troopers. Who wants a mustache? I do, I do.

SPEAKER_24: 2:51

Yeah, yeah, I do. And then to my wife's uh total dis disdain, she I kept calling her brother. I was like, Hey, brother, every time she was walking through the house. Uh I mean, all day. I didn't stop. I never broke character with her. Anytime she'd be like, Hey, hey Eric, can you use? I'm like, what do you need, brother? Constantly messing with her. I was in Fortune. Yeah, you know, just rest in peace to the Hulkster.

SPEAKER_01: 3:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 3:16

Um, but before we get into saying hi to everybody and all that stuff, I just heard some really good news today, and I want to jump right to it and share it. Cause uh he's uh he is a friend um in in a mission. He is a cop that does what we do. So I am going to share uh his page, if I can find it here. Share. Um if you're not familiar with him on Instagram, uh, he goes by Officer Honey Badger. Um if you're not familiar, you're probably more familiar with his YouTube, which um his YouTube channel is Ohio Body Camp. Or I'm sorry, is that the right one? I don't think that's the right one. It's not.

SPEAKER_01: 4:03

I'm sure you'll get to it.

SPEAKER_24: 4:05

That's not the right one. My bad. It's Columbus. Let me find it. Yeah, it's this one. I had the wrong one up. There it is. This is his page. You guys may be familiar with this one, Columbus Police Body Cam. Um, and then he had a little announcement. He had gotten wrongfully terminated from his police department for doing kind of like what I do. And I want to play his message.

SPEAKER_00: 4:35

Got off the phone with uh Brian Steele, the uh president of the FOP, called to let me know that they got the uh verdict back from the arbitrator. Uh they read through it, and uh full reign statement with back pay award. So the city has seven days to bring me back to work and uh give me all the back pay that they should have given me this whole time after uh wrongfully terminating me. It's uh it's a win for the good guys. I don't know what else to say. I'm in a pretty good mood right now. Thank you to everybody that has stood by my side and supported me through this. I appreciate you more than you know. Um I'll be putting out more information soon. Thank you.

SPEAKER_24: 5:24

Love it, absolutely love it. Um I love it because it could happen to me. I could be the same, I could be in the same shoes. Now, I have overwhelmingly had support from my leadership, but that could change in a day. You never know. Um, everybody that I've talked to in my chain, you know, no issues with the stuff that I'm doing. Uh they understand what I'm doing. And uh Mr. Bill Fold said I follow him. I'm glad that he was vindicated. So see, uh, and he is, man. He's a he's a pure-hearted guy. You can tell he obviously loves the career. If he didn't, um I don't think I don't think he'd be too upset. I think he'd be more mad about maybe his reputation, but when you when you love the career and you you you do tend to take it to heart like that. So very happy for him. So hopefully we can get him on the show. He obviously he was celebrating tonight with his family because I had asked him to be on actually the day before this happened. I was like, hey, we got a live come up you want to be on. Kind of talk about the shit that you've been going through. And he's like, I technically can't until I get my verdict because he his lawyer, that was what his lawyer was telling him. So I was like, Well, fucking listen to your lawyer. And then lo and behold, uh less than 24 hours, he had sent me a message in the middle of the day saying saying this exact same thing here. And I was like, Holy shit, okay, bro, let's get on the show. And he's like, I can't gotta celebrate with my family tonight. I was like, Okay, I understand. I was like, Well, we usually go pretty late. I was like, so when you get done with dinner, if you want to jump on, that'd be pretty cool. Um Mr. Billfold said, Eric, he was one of the cops I was talking about when I said that cops don't take care of the good cops. Ah, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_12: 7:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 7:07

Yep. So yeah, he made it. Um now I'm going through and seeing who's all in. I see uh Johnny's in the house. He says good evening, everybody. We got Marines blood in the house. Um two cops, one donut. I think you are accidentally adding a space, and thus it's making it no longer a link. What are we talking about? I don't know what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_01: 7:32

Oh, he's talking about the buy me buy me a coffee. Uh somebody was saying there was a space in there, so when you clicked on it and and Alan already got on there and commented back, I think everything's fixed now.

SPEAKER_24: 7:42

Oh, okay. Gotcha. Alan's. Hello everyone. Yeah, I fixed it. Sorry, you froze, Alan. We couldn't tell what you said there. Alan's having internet issues, so he's he's in timeout until he gets his internet fixed. He just keeps freezing. Um but appreciate it, guys. Thanks for helping that part out. Alan said, fuck it. Uh Mr. Billfold said, yeah, I follow him. Uh my mom's in the house. Freeman Key's in the house. What's going on, guys? But yeah, so took um took last week off. Uh Banning, did you guys get an episode out for that?

SPEAKER_01: 8:27

No, we didn't because Alan was uh where you were at.

SPEAKER_24: 8:30

That's right. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 8:31

I couldn't uh I couldn't launch it.

SPEAKER_24: 8:33

Free the nipple, Alan. Gross. No, don't free the in the nipple. Brandar's in the house. He said, hope y'all had a good e or good night. Uh what's up, Brandar? Um he uh user guest said you need to react to the entitled military doctor think she's above the law by body cam stories today. Well, if Alan, if you can find that one in the background and uh put it in the private chat, I will try to try to watch that. Um but while we are doing that, um, I'll update y'all. Uh went out to IACP, um, got to see a lot of cool technologies that are coming out. One that may be a possible sponsor coming down the road um that I've bragged about before is Avive. I learned that I've been saying their name wrong. Um, I've been calling it Avive. So so banning, I wasn't there just just bullshitting with people. I was actually trying to get some work done as well. So I'm gonna pull them up. They are called Avive AED, and I am going to share the screen. The reason I like these guys so much, um, I have four AED saves in my career. That's a lot, that is more than most people. I don't know how that happened. Just fate. Just happened to be right place, right time several times. And one save, I wasn't in the right place. I was at the sector, and this was five or six blocks away in a restaurant area, like a very high business area. So there's AEDs all over the place. I was like, screw it, I'll grab the one off the wall and I'll go over there if I happen to get there in time. Okay, cool, but I shouldn't be the first one there.

SPEAKER_01: 10:27

Right.

SPEAKER_24: 10:28

I was. I just shit happened. I ended up being the first one there because they used the AED, and it ended up saving this lady. So um yeah, I'm a big fan of AEDs. Now, the thing about AEDs is they're big, they're bulky, they're not usually carried in a police vehicle, especially because they comment. Um well a vibe came out with an AED that can basically fit in your cargo pocket and work for um for kids and adults. Um I'm trying to see if uh this is not this doesn't really look like the right thing. What is that? There it is. I clicked on the wrong one. There it is. This is what I was talking about. That is small. Yeah, it's tiny. Uh let me see if they show it being yeah, that look how small that is.

SPEAKER_01: 11:23

Man, you can't put a cost on a life either.

SPEAKER_24: 11:25

And that that thing weighs two pounds, bro. Two pounds.

SPEAKER_01: 11:29

And then the size, I mean, this is this is truly gonna this is gonna go. And I've I've got a connect in Arizona I'm gonna reach out to, and I'm sure he's aware of this product, but I'm not and you and I both know him. I mean he's Pinnell County, but uh he puts on some programs. I'm gonna make sure he's he's definitely aware of this.

SPEAKER_24: 11:45

I actually showed this to him while I was out there.

SPEAKER_01: 11:47

Did you?

SPEAKER_24: 11:47

Yeah. So that's awesome. Tim said, what you gonna do when the donut mania runs wild on you? Head over to Discord and see Eric the Hulkster. That's the best I could do. Sorry. Thanks, Tim. Uh too funny. Um, but yeah, this thing, two pounds, it's the smallest um AED that in the world that I know of. Um, and when I talked to them, they said there's nobody that makes a bigger or smaller one than them. So uh yeah, we're working with them to see what we can get going for them. So, guys, if they do become a sponsor, we need y'all to help us push this product out because it will save lives. So, um, and you know me. I I don't I don't back the stuff up unless I believe in it. And what's cool is Benny, what I really like about the screen here is it's dummy proof. It walks you through as soon as you activate it with that red switch in the back and start pulling up the leads, it gives you pictures, it shows you, it tells you what to do. It's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01: 12:50

That's that's awesome, man. That's I love seeing this technology go. And the I'll be honest with you, when this when this thing first came out, uh, they were, you know, the the size of the the new or the uh to chart, you know, jump your car off. They were these huge deals, and pretty much only a well-equipped ambulance service would have them. And I'm probably not the guy to speak on medic stuff, but I I watched the evolution, you know, coming from the Marine Corps and watching how big they were. But you know, of course they started as roller carts, um, crash carts or whatever, and then they've started condensing them. And I I know uh badge 502 could probably explain this a lot better than we can. But seeing how these things are evolving and seeing how many lives they're actually saving, and now I'm seeing this, you know, that guy that's holding it doesn't have just gargantuan hands. That is freaking amazing, man.

SPEAKER_15: 13:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 13:40

No, I really love to see this, you know. And I'm my mind goes on, you know, how do we get car manufacturers to start sticking these in in one of their cars? Kind of like when OnStar started coming out.

SPEAKER_14: 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 13:50

Um, and obviously they can they can put this in the price of their car. But when you're talking about this, and then what does that do for your insurance? Does it help it? Can we get insurance companies on board?

SPEAKER_24: 13:59

There's a lot of things that uh that's a really good idea for a jar head. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01: 14:05

You ought to see my notebook, you'd think I'm some kind of weirdo with all the ideas that I have.

SPEAKER_24: 14:09

Not just a pretty face. I like it.

SPEAKER_01: 14:11

Oh, I definitely got a face for radio, brother.

SPEAKER_24: 14:14

Um, I like Marine Blood said, I am uh cool, I'm AED certified. That would be so useful. And then um Jerry said, Damn, that is tiny. The cost looks reasonable. They should be in every patrol car. I agree. I think I think that's kind of the mission with those things being so compact. Uh officers would not hesitate to carry that in their vehicle. Um, and I truly believe technology is going to be it's right around the corner where they're gonna make it pocket-sized, like truly pocket-sized. I'm telling you, that can fit in a cargo pocket. So if you're like an EMS or something like that, I would get carrying that thing. As a cop, it's a little it's still a little too bulky right now.

SPEAKER_01: 14:54

Um as fast as tech is going, man, this may become a friggin' watch with leads that come off of it.

unknown: 15:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 15:00

You know, uh, just I mean, just it's amazing.

SPEAKER_24: 15:03

Yeah, and and I like your idea. I mean, I think you're on to something about that being in uh every vehicle because I mean, you know, they provide a jack, although they're shitty. You know, you got a spare tire. I mean, if you're gonna have some of these things, maybe you could, you know, you get the the mid-range package and now you've got an AED in it.

SPEAKER_01: 15:22

Well, and then you then you run it in a universal location in every single one of those cars. So even if you're at something and you see that car and you break the window out to get the AED, you know, and insurance is aware that okay, it saved a life, and we're gonna replace that for the guy. The guy wasn't even there that owned the car, but he had the product in there that saved a friggin' life. Yep. Um, you know what I mean? It's just you and you put that type of kickback towards the people that bought the car. And um, I mean, it's just huge, man. And uh you would believe where my eyes ideas go with this type of stuff.

SPEAKER_24: 15:50

But I think that's I think it's a good idea. Um okay. So now that we've been sitting here bragging about somebody that's not even a sponsor, uh let's shoot, let's give us a shout-out to our actual sponsors. Um, first, Peregrine. Uh this doesn't apply to everybody, this applies to law enforcement, DAs, um, maybe even Fireside. Uh, if you are looking to integrate all of your internal software stuff, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01: 16:15

And I'll have to correct it and find out from Peregrine itself, but aren't they available to some states for private security that are licensed in a certain way? Kind of like uh the other company, the other investigative okay, yes, right.

SPEAKER_24: 16:27

Yes, yes. If you're a private-owned business and you've got internal security thing going across the nation or across the state, things like that. But basically, let me give it to you in a dumb cop way that I like it uh to think about it is it will take all of your internal stuff, your your report writing system, your your cameras where you're saving all your footage, your gang files, um, your evidence files, all these things, your CAD information. So when the dispatch calls come out, it takes all of that, so you don't have to go to each single one. It brings it all into one central location. It uses AI to show um, you know, you can uh set the settings how you want it to go, but it can put a hierarchy of things that are probably most pertinent to things that are least pertinent. Um it's just a really cool thing. And and the thing that I've kind of coined is it it basically turns your shittiest detective into Sherlock Holmes. That's uh I coined that phrase, uh that's mine trademark, two cops one donut. Um and I think you would be a fool to not look into it for your department and for your DA, because there's nothing worse than a DA that doesn't realize that there's evidence that needs to be presented and they didn't know it was there because somebody mislabeled or did any of that takes a lot of the user error out of the cops' hands and fixes it. So that's why I like it. They can't fuck up uh it takes that human error part out of the way. So anyway, Peregrine, check them out peregrine.io like the Falcon. Uh um, so anyway, uh we pulled up that video that somebody asked us to look at earlier. I don't remember who requested it.

SPEAKER_01: 18:07

It was under anonymous or uh like a user.

SPEAKER_24: 18:09

Yeah, yeah, some user. So I don't know this video. We have not watched it. We're gonna share it.

SPEAKER_01: 18:14

Um you need a screen at first.

SPEAKER_24: 18:18

Yeah, I don't know why it's not popping up on the screen. I just uh let me stop sharing share screen. There it goes. It didn't work for some reason. Um, this one comes from Body Camp Stories, so shout out to them. Go to their YouTube channel. They're growing, it looks like they've got 56,000 subscribers. Um, I don't really use their channel, so maybe it's a channel we'll start using. But uh let's um biggie size this one. Well, we'll start playing and then we'll biggie size.

SPEAKER_05: 18:51

Go ahead. Not at this moment. Good afternoon. Hey, hey Colonel, you want to roll your window down? Why not? I'm not detaining you, Colonel. I'm stopping you from doing 63 miles an hour in a 40 mile an hour zone. I need your driver's license, your insurance, and your registration.

SPEAKER_24: 19:18

Okay, so something to know on a military base, because I'm a military cop. Um, rank does not matter with on-base police. It's the the only about the only time that rank does not get to uh mean shit um for military ranking systems. Her being a colonel, she is light years ahead rank-wise, from this military cop that's pulled over. Uh, it looks like it's Air Force. Um, I I can see the force right here on the name tape. And this tactic here of keeping the window rolled up and trying to talk through the window is a no-no. And I am going to guess that there is an odor of alcohol inside that car that she doesn't want to get out. So I'm already suspecting DWI. Uh I you got anything to add on that, Banny?

SPEAKER_01: 20:11

No, just the way she's acting on that. And you know, you would be a bigger expert than that. Um, I covered it when I was in the Marine Corps, but things have changed. Um I know that MPs on the couple bases that I have been will physically remove that window immediately because you're kind of following into a different area. Now, I don't know if that is still the same. I don't know if when you're signing for your base DOD sticker that you get those, if you get stopped by police, you shall do this regardless of rank, file, etc. Um, I'm not sure how that goes on on bases now.

SPEAKER_24: 20:45

It's been I should have known she's not on a one of the guys, uh Marines Blood said she's not a uh it's not an MP, it's a local PD pull.

SPEAKER_01: 20:54

Okay, that's different though.

SPEAKER_24: 20:55

I was gonna say when they said the speed, bases don't typically get over 30. Right. There's not a lot of places on a base that get over 30, and most of them are in the 20s. Um so with that said, that makes sense about her going in in a 45 or whatever they said it was.

SPEAKER_01: 21:12

Right.

SPEAKER_24: 21:13

Um, she is in uniform, so and this officer recognizes the rank, which tells me he probably served. Just going off the clues there. Um, so alright, we're gonna keep going.

SPEAKER_05: 21:29

Yes, I do. It's on my radar, ma'am. No, you may not 227. Send me another unit. I also had you doing 73 further down the road. I need your license, you're interested in your registration.

SPEAKER_11: 21:46

Can I see the radar?

SPEAKER_05: 21:48

No, ma'am, you're not entitled to see my radar.

SPEAKER_11: 21:50

You're incriminating me on something you're saying that I'm not allowed to see.

SPEAKER_05: 21:54

Colonel, I need your driver's license.

SPEAKER_24: 21:56

Okay, so we're gonna get into the uh the rules, the laws, and all that on traffic stop. And we've said this on here before, but just in case you're not familiar with it, you are in fact not legally um obliged to see anything that the officer is saying. Right. Now, can it go a long way showing them sometimes? I actually posted a video not too long ago um of a dearborn officer showing a red light, uh, his his dash cam footage. So he had the ability to put it up on his phone, which is cool where the technology is getting to, to show a person running a red light and prove it to them. Right. Which the guy still argued it, which cracks me up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_23: 22:41

So even when you show it to them, they'll be like, Well, did you calibrate it? Did you how do you know that was my car? Like, they're still gonna argue.

SPEAKER_01: 22:47

And that's what and that's what the day in court is for. Yes. You know, if you want to if you want to argue it, take it to court. Yes. That officer's doing everything in his presence review, and uh that's that's not the that's not the place for it, is on the side of the road, I don't believe.

SPEAKER_24: 23:00

Yeah, so it just depends. Like for me now, Benny, when when I have somebody like this in full uniform, um all that, uh I'm already kind of suspecting DWI. I'm be like, sure, come back to my car, I'll show you the radar. I'm gonna separate them from the car. So uh I believe this would have been a good opportunity already. Uh, it doesn't look like he's going down that path right now. Um looks like he's more of a I don't have to show you type of guy. Right. But like I said, I'm kind of suspecting DWI right now, so I would try to get them out of the car. I don't want them behind the wheel. They make unpredictable moves. Kingslayer said the cops said she's not detained at that point. She should have just driven. Yeah, you're not wrong. You are detained. You are absolutely when those lights come on, you're seized.

SPEAKER_01: 23:51

And in defense to prosecution, if an officer tells you you're not detained, yes, when that goes to court after they've chased you down, pit maneuvered you, taken you in jail, and and done everything, you may have that if they can hear it on the body camera when he says you're not detained, depending on the state. But I mean, just so everybody's aware, when those red light, red and blue lights come on behind you, it's technically an arrest until it's issued, released. Period. An arrest just means your movement. Your movement is not free to go until uh that peace officer states that you are.

SPEAKER_24: 24:21

Yep. Uh Mr. Billfold said in Georgia, the law is different for laser than it is with radar. We have no right to see radar, but we can ask them to show us the calibration of the laser and the actual results. But do they have to show it? That's what I'm wondering. Because you can ask, but doesn't it mean they have to show it? Interesting. I didn't I've never heard that before. So maybe the laws are a change. I can just tell you in the states that I've been in, Michigan, Texas, and uh Montana, that has not been a thing. And I I've never heard it to the contrary until what Mr. Billfold said right there. So um he said, I think the I think it violates the equal protection cause, but on the scale of unconstitutional state laws, it is low on the totem pole. Gotcha. Okay, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_05: 25:07

See what insurance and your registration. I would like to see your supervisor. 227, can you send me a supervisor? I need your license, insurance, and registration.

SPEAKER_11: 25:18

When your supervisor comes, sir.

SPEAKER_24: 25:22

Because this is a common misconception that the stop stops because you asked for a supervisor. It's not a timeout. It isn't everything pauses from here because you asked for a supervisor. That's not how that works.

SPEAKER_01: 25:38

I got one one question for you. So while I was before I retired, we got the uh the new axons with the the communications and the being able to being able to log in. One of my deputies, motivated deputies, called that did several traffic stops, called and said, Requesting a supervisor here, sir. I know you're gonna say what's going on, but I just I know you're 45 minutes away, and I said, stand by and get close to the car. And I activated that body camera. I could see and hear everything that the the motorist was was saying, and I was actually able to resolve it because I was on another primary call that I could not just leave, but I wanted to try to take care of both if I could. And I was actually able to resolve it through that body cam communication, and that was that was really neat.

SPEAKER_24: 26:23

Nice. I like that. Innovative. All right, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_05: 27:44

The reason why you sat at that green light for a several seconds, sitting there, the green light, didn't want to make your turn. With a green arrow, you didn't want to make your turn.

SPEAKER_24: 27:57

That's another indicator of drinking and driving.

SPEAKER_01: 28:01

That looks like Air Force. That's Air Force, right?

SPEAKER_24: 28:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I said I can see the force because I saw the nameplate. Yeah, she's Air Force. Um, and and for those that don't know, when you're up at the colonel level, like you don't have to answer to very many people.

SPEAKER_01: 28:14

And she's usually she's a lieutenant colonel, not a full bird, correct? From what I was saying.

SPEAKER_24: 28:18

Yeah, I think it's lieutenant colonel. Yeah. Because I didn't see the yeah, I didn't see the fullbird. It was the uh Oak Leaf.

SPEAKER_01: 28:24

So um, but even then Oh, still a still a yeah, large ranked.

SPEAKER_24: 28:30

Yeah. So for those that don't know, I think it's uh Butterbar, Lieutenant, first lieutenant, second lieutenant, um captain, major, major, then lieutenant colonel, colonel. And then after that, it's all the generals.

SPEAKER_14: 28:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_05: 28:43

So not a green light with the turn signal giving you the authority to pass through the intersection. Yeah, most people, when they get a green light, they drive.

SPEAKER_24: 29:21

I don't think a regular citizen would be treated this way.

SPEAKER_01: 29:24

No, and he is going above and beyond. And if he's doing this on every traffic stop, awesome. Yeah. But then again, you know, I I tell my guys, you know, are is this something that you can truly handle? Are these hurdles that they're kind of afraid to go over, just going back to that leadership? Uh, because they got to be able to make those on the call or on the spot calls. And that's that's my whole thing.

SPEAKER_24: 29:43

Yep. Um she's uh, like I said, I'm still still going with the uh alcohol related. Um Hannah Odeshi said um beats me. I'm as a retired mass sergeant. Congrats.

SPEAKER_01: 29:58

Yeah, still a great rank. Yep.

SPEAKER_05: 30:02

Hey, it's a lieutenant colonel. I had her doing 73 down there, and then in the 40, I had her doing 63. She sat at the green turn signal, and she's refusing to roll her window down or provide any documentation. And I I figured, why not get you here before I rip her out of a car?

SPEAKER_24: 30:20

He's itching, I like it.

SPEAKER_01: 30:22

He kind of looks like a devil dog walker. I don't know if he is, just based on the haircut and the dude that's walking over there.

SPEAKER_24: 30:28

Yeah. Yep. Uh Mr. Billfold. Um, somebody said Sean Carroll said, weird that that colonel in the mil uh in the military would be acting this way towards law enforcement. Uh that's why I'm leaning towards intoxication. Um Mr. Billfold pulled up Article II speed detection device. Um under code section, shall notify each person against whom the officer intends to make a case based on the use of a radar device. Oh, interesting. Okay. Um Chaplin Campbell said, It's so that we stand out when you look at us in front of the aircraft. Um Mr. Bilfold continued and said, If requested to make a test, the officer shall test the radar device for accuracy. Fair. I like that law, actually. I think you should. Like after you write a ticket, I think that should be something you do just to show. Especially with body cams now. Like I'm writing this ticket, and boom, you know, show the tuning fork and show that it tuned to or however they test. Fuck, I've been out of game for some. I don't do tickets. I don't do tickets, dude. I don't know. I don't know how they work anymore. Um Peter Kazbooski? Kazub Kazoobski. I think that's how you say it. Kazubsky said, yeah, if that was civilian, it would be a different game, I bet. I agree. I bet it would have been.

SPEAKER_05: 31:56

Um get her out? Yeah, I'm gonna try it. Okay. No, she didn't, but it's on the 14th from the registered vehicle.

SPEAKER_11: 32:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 32:11

Are you gonna roll your window down all the way?

SPEAKER_11: 32:13

No, can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02: 32:15

Problem.

SPEAKER_11: 32:16

I don't know. You're off to your spot.

SPEAKER_02: 32:21

Well, if you want to see the radar.

SPEAKER_24: 32:23

I'm amazed at how well I can hear her. I don't know if that's the camera that just can hear her better. But I've never been able to hear somebody clearly through the because she's not yelling, she's just talking.

SPEAKER_01: 35:31

No, but I noticed the supervisor probably left his body camera back at the office.

SPEAKER_24: 35:36

Gotcha. Yeah yeah, probably. Alright.

SPEAKER_02: 35:39

Let's uh step out of the vehicle so you can see it. It's not a handheld device. And you do it by Florida law. So I'm not gonna argue with you. What's gonna happen is you're either gonna roll the window down and cooperate from here on out, or right now you're impeding an investigation.

SPEAKER_11: 35:57

I'm investigating traffic ventilation.

SPEAKER_02: 36:03

I'm already explaining to you, ma'am. You're doing 63 to 40 mile an hour construction done. I'm just gonna tell you what's gonna happen. So either you cooperate from here on out, or we're gonna break the window and pull you out of the vehicle and you're gonna go to jail. It's that simple. Yes, yes, and you're going to go to jail.

SPEAKER_24: 36:23

He's a little eager. That kid's a little eager. Absolutely. Relax, dude. Relax.

SPEAKER_01: 36:33

He's one of those quiet guys until his backup arrives.

SPEAKER_24: 36:36

Like, even if I was the supervisor, I'd be like, I'm I'm gonna have your partner over there. He's gonna be the one to do the entry. You're gonna step back. Exactly. You're too eager for me, buddy. Um what uh Mr. Billfold said. In the event the radar device does not meet the minimum accuracy requirements, the citation complaint or tickets shall not be issued against. I like that. I really do like that. That is a good that's a good rule. I like that. Um with King Slayer saying, watch out, Mr. Billfold. That black and white law might not be black and white. You need to read if it is reasonable for the cop to follow it. King Slayer's still butthurt because I didn't agree with his uh take on something the other day. I don't remember what it was about, but I was talking about reasonableness. Like he he doesn't get the concept of re reasonableness when it comes to the courts. Um what you see in black and white, the point that I was getting to, what you see in black and white and with the way that courts practice law are two different things sometimes. So um they will base things off of reasonableness and make rulings and things like that. So that's why I said it isn't just the black and white law, it is reasonableness. Um so in this, if they decide to break the window, Banning, I'm gonna let you lead the way on how you would break the break windows and get this person out. How would you extract this kernel?

SPEAKER_01: 38:01

The last the last couple years, I I had a little spring-loaded one. Before that, I had a uh an a just an asp, you know, and using using a striking technique to get it out. Sometimes, depending on the car, the make, how many people were in it, um, we we would enter through the passenger side. I try to do what I can to not have glass uh go on the occupants, even though they're the ones that are that are technically causing it. We have to do our due diligence to make sure that nobody goes home or to jail with bruises created by us unless it's extreme. Um but you know, it's just a quick, you know, a little window punch thing. You could you could break a uh a bottom right corner, bottom left corner, and just the way that glass breaks and rake it out towards the street and after the tow truck gets there and everything, you can get it cleaned up and uh and remove them from there. You're either using a seatbelt cutter if they're if they're completely non-compliant, but you want to make sure you have control of those hands if if it gets to that point and and and get them out.

SPEAKER_24: 38:59

Um for me, uh I like to do the driver's side back passenger if they have one. Um if they don't, then I'll go over the passenger side. Just like you're saying, I don't want to I don't want the glass to go all over them. She is being what I call passive resistant. I don't think that she's going to fight or do anything like that based on everything I see. She's just gonna make you go through the motions. She's trying to establish something that she thinks she has a right to, and she doesn't. Um and I know this does get overused by police, but Pennsylvania Pennsylvania V Mims is what would allow them to get her out of this vehicle. And um she's already created several uh violations of the law by not providing her ID and credentials and stuff like that. And speeding was the PC for the stop. Um so all these things. But in that, again, like I said, I'm not gonna tear her out of that fucking car. I'm gonna grab her and see what her response is and say, alright, ma'am, step out of the vehicle. Um she's doing, like I said, a passive um protest, is kind of what she's doing here. So uh let's keep going.

unknown: 40:15

Uh what?

SPEAKER_02: 40:16

Or not cooperating.

SPEAKER_11: 40:18

Cooperating or not cooperating or not.

SPEAKER_02: 40:22

Okay, this is what's this I'm just telling you what's gonna happen. So you can either just go along with it. It's a lot more difficult than it has to be. That's what we're gonna get. I'm asking one more time. Are you gonna flop away or do you are they gonna have to take it down? That's gonna flop right. It's just that's the light on the document. We can you step out of the vehicle doing the belly, doing that to the internet, do we want to belly one? So you can only put the Line. In the internet you're incorrecting your money. Whatever you want on the internet. Or the Supreme Court is the I tell you to step out of the vehicle on the traffic modeling, you'll step out of the vehicle. So that's what I'm ordering you right now. You either cooperate and step out of the vehicle right now, or they're gonna break your window, unlock your door, open the door, and pull you out of the car, and instead of just cooperating and getting a traffic violation, you're gonna spend the night in jail. So are you prepared to spend the night in jail? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_24: 41:53

This kid's itching. I have a feeling he's gonna pop that window the moment she doesn't comply.

SPEAKER_14: 41:59

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 42:00

Oh, we're taking bets right now. Uh uh figurative hypothetical bets, but um, is she is he gonna break that window in the next five seconds or is he gonna give it some time? The sergeant's gonna back up. I'm curious. I I think this kid's just gonna go wham, like it immediately.

SPEAKER_01: 42:18

And Jerry Jerry Worms is in the house.

SPEAKER_24: 42:20

Oh, Jerry's in the house? Jerry said, She sounds like a sovereign citizen with uniform on, yeah. In uniform, yeah. I I I don't think that's the route, the route she's taken. I think she's drunk. I truly do. I think this is alcohol speaking. So and before those asked, well, she's in uniform. Why would she have been drinking? Like, look at the time of the night. She was probably out at some sort of military celebration. Is my guess.

SPEAKER_02: 42:45

Right. Yes or no? Are you prepared to spend the rest of the night in jail?

unknown: 42:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 42:51

Huh? Okay, break the window and take her out.

SPEAKER_23: 42:55

Yes, I called it. You didn't even get out of the way. Oh shit. That motherfucker was loaded. He was loaded already. God damn.

SPEAKER_01: 43:10

He said break her, and before he could say out and holy shit. Golly, man.

SPEAKER_24: 43:17

Guys, I know. I think that I like obviously that was cool factor. I don't agree with what he just did. I don't like that at all. I don't like that he did the driver's side. I don't like how quickly he did that. Um Jesus. Alright, I'm gonna go back. That was that was uh that was amazing timing.

SPEAKER_02: 43:39

A trap violation, you're gonna spend the night in jail. So are you prepared to spend the night in jail? Yes or no? Yes or no? Are you prepared to spend the rest of the night in jail? Okay, break the window and take her out.

SPEAKER_24: 44:05

Okay, I was wrong. She is gonna fight. I thought she was gonna be passive. Nope. Well, I'm I'm one for two. That kid wanted to break that thing. I'm just saying, this is how Rambo started. It is. It's a little bit like how Rambo started. The only difference is she's in a vehicle. We might have just created the first female Rambo. It's gonna be a new movie called Ramba.

SPEAKER_15: 44:40

So uh let's uh do plenty or plenty of that.

SPEAKER_05: 45:06

Do we have EMS to check our eyes out? Yep.

SPEAKER_24: 45:10

That's why we don't break the driver's side window, guys. Try to avoid that stuff. But it does make it trickier to especially if they're gonna resist. If you come in through the passenger side, then the idea is you start okay. This is a strategy for all the cops out there listening and and for our viewers to understand where my mind goes. If you're gonna try to go in through the passenger side, you are the distraction. So you break that window, your job is to open that door, act like you're starting to come through to push them out or pull them out, but you're really trying to get them out the driver's side. Then somebody comes over and opens the door because you've unlocked it. So but that does take practice. Um, Jerry Worms. Next stop will be a court martial. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 45:54

Yeah, she probably it may get adopted by DOD. You know, you don't know.

SPEAKER_24: 45:59

Yeah, they may. Uh I I absolutely think this will get her kicked out. With us not being in any active wars right now. Yeah, um, I mean, on record, uh, any active wars. Um, I I I think she's gonna get shit canned. So yep, absolutely. Um let's keep going.

SPEAKER_15: 46:17

You need to stab your ambulance.

SPEAKER_05: 46:20

I just requested it.

SPEAKER_15: 46:23

Blast is in my eye.

SPEAKER_05: 46:25

Yep. There's definitely a comment.

SPEAKER_24: 47:15

Okay. Oh no, that's okay.

SPEAKER_13: 47:28

You will be getting sued.

SPEAKER_24: 47:32

D what is David saying? DOW now, Benny, no longer DOD.

SPEAKER_01: 47:36

It's Department of War, not Department of Defense. That's what he's doing.

SPEAKER_24: 47:40

Oh, I didn't even realize that.

SPEAKER_01: 47:42

When it's when it's ingrained in your mind your whole life, yeah, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_24: 47:46

It still says it on my ID, it's DOD.

SPEAKER_01: 47:49

And I'm pretty sure what's the ID this girl, it's gonna be Lieutenant Colonel Karen.

SPEAKER_13: 47:53

Uh and if there is injury and scarring to my eye.

SPEAKER_01: 47:58

Oh, good.

SPEAKER_13: 47:59

You're going to be doing it, and you're going to be good job.

SPEAKER_05: 48:03

It's okay. Yeah, good. Yep.

SPEAKER_13: 48:11

No, no, you are Brotherhood members.

SPEAKER_05: 48:15

What the hell is that?

SPEAKER_13: 48:18

You're Freemason.

SPEAKER_24: 48:20

Uh Mr. Billfold said Pen V. Mims was supposed to be supposed to hinge off officer safety and reasonableness, but the Fifth and the Eighth Circuits have made rulings that go against the Supreme Court's court decision itself. Um and yes, I would argue Steve Wallace said give her a purple heart. That's fucked up. Um I I would argue that um when you're refusing to give your sorry, I didn't mean to click that. Uh when you're refusing to give your ID, suspected of DWI, like I said, I this is clear indicators of DWI, in my opinion. Um so it it is a safety issue. It's a safety issue for everybody, including the public. So you do got to get them out of the car. But I don't want to watch this whole thing. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_13: 49:07

Um about you? Nope. What's your name? Deputy Casey. Deputy Casey's ability to give me my phone so that I can make contact.

SPEAKER_05: 49:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_10: 49:27

Because I don't take a urine test?

SPEAKER_05: 49:29

Your license will be suspended for a period of 12 months.

SPEAKER_24: 49:32

A urine test? That's a thing too?

SPEAKER_14: 49:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_24: 49:36

I've never heard of that either. Jesus, I have I've really been out of the game when it comes to traffic violations. A urine test for DWI. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01: 49:46

I think they're in Florida there.

SPEAKER_24: 49:48

Yeah, I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_01: 49:52

I'm not sure how it works.

SPEAKER_24: 49:54

Interesting. Okay, okay. I didn't I've never heard that. Oh, and to the point that they're getting at, I think in most states, I think in all states, if you refuse to submit for a DWI, like your breath, uh, blood, um, your license will automatically be suspended for a year. That's just that's just how they do that.

SPEAKER_09: 50:15

Previously suspended.

SPEAKER_05: 50:16

No, no, no. It's 18 months if it was previously suspended. You can read it. It's right there.

SPEAKER_09: 50:21

Well. Without representation, I don't know how to answer this.

SPEAKER_05: 50:28

Oh, come on. So here's the thing. When you get issued a driver's license, you have to sign for it. It's called implied consent. And when you sign that, it basically says I agree to supply blood, breath, or urine. It's a part of a lawful investigation, which is what this is.

SPEAKER_09: 50:44

So it's on the lawful investigation.

SPEAKER_05: 50:47

Okay. So do you refuse to take the test or not?

SPEAKER_09: 50:50

I don't understand the instructions.

SPEAKER_05: 50:52

Okay. I'm requesting little things here.

SPEAKER_10: 50:59

I've actually taken two of these just last week.

SPEAKER_05: 51:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_10: 51:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_24: 51:04

That's normal.

SPEAKER_10: 51:05

Refusing you to do this.

SPEAKER_05: 51:07

Correct.

SPEAKER_10: 51:07

Does that mean I can't drive the car?

SPEAKER_05: 51:09

Yeah, your license will be suspended. Now that this is the first time, right, you'll get a 10-day um what do you call it?

SPEAKER_10: 51:19

And then where is this tested?

SPEAKER_05: 51:21

FDLE. Florida Department of Law Enforcement actually gets shipped out.

SPEAKER_10: 51:27

So it leaves everybody's hands and then goes.

SPEAKER_05: 51:29

Yeah, it gets taped up, it goes into a refrigerator and our evidence. Then they get it out and it gets shipped to FDLE.

SPEAKER_24: 51:37

So my mom actually said, I think they can do a blood draw there at the hospital as long as the as long with the urine, Dave, not sure though. You need what's called a blood warrant. Um so typically what will happen is if you refuse to give breath or I guess urine, if she refuses that, they can do a blood warrant if they've got uh suspicion of immunity.

SPEAKER_01: 52:00

And I and I think Florida may have, I'll have to look it up, but knowing a couple of the deputies and troopers down there, I think they have a no refusal time of year as well uh to where it goes with this. I'm not sure if they've adopted similar things to what we have.

SPEAKER_24: 52:13

I'm not sure. In Texas, um you've got a I I don't know, again, I haven't done this in so long. I think you have to have a blood warrant, but there are no refusal portions of the year.

SPEAKER_01: 52:24

Right.

SPEAKER_24: 52:25

Yeah. It's so odd. I don't understand at all. I'm glad I've never been a DWI officer.

SPEAKER_10: 52:31

So far. And not doing this means I can't drive a car.

SPEAKER_05: 52:37

Correct. You'll your driving, like I said, your driving privileges will be suspended.

SPEAKER_09: 52:43

Even though it's never been happened before.

SPEAKER_05: 52:53

18 months if it has been suspended previously. So this is your first time. Maybe you're suspended.

SPEAKER_24: 53:01

Oh, Chaplin Campbell brings up a good point. Um If she had to take two of those on base last week, why did she have to take two in one week? I bet you somebody else saw something and they asked her to pee in a cup twice.

SPEAKER_01: 53:16

One of those could have been a random.

SPEAKER_24: 53:18

Yeah, one could have been a random, but two is very rare. Um very rare. Now, this happened to me two years ago. But I'm I'm different. I'm not active duty. So I show up. Usually I get randomly drawn to go piss test every year when I show up. So I got my piss test, and I immediately had one the very next day. Right. That doesn't happen. What ended up happening was an error in the system. It just scheduled me twice. So I showed up to take the second one, and the guy's like, You're back? And I was like, and they don't even have your results from the first one yet.

SPEAKER_01: 53:55

So Well, you got Jerry Worms' comment there. A blood draw can be mandatory in Florida. That's the same as the same as Texas. You know, if we have SBI or serious bottle injury, we can do a mandatory blood draw here. Um but we I know our the agencies that I worked for usually fall. I mean, we're gonna do that with a warrant because even though it's mandatory, you know, you're just you're gonna get that warrant and there you're gonna have your uh probable cost be able to do that just to make sure it's tight.

SPEAKER_24: 54:23

Yeah. Uh uh and Andy Fletcher said, well, she never seemed drunk to me, but she's definitely off. And I I don't disagree with that based on what we can see in the video. Um, but just it was what she was doing, you know, flying through a construction zone, leaving her window up, sitting at a green light. These are all indicators of of drunk driving. Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 54:42

These all and it could be pills, too.

SPEAKER_24: 54:45

It could be pills, yeah. You're right. There's other things not necessarily drunk off of alcohol, but yeah, David Edmondson said, I'm leaning towards narcotics now, not alcohol. So yeah, yeah, you guys are seeing it. You guys are catching up. I like it.

SPEAKER_05: 54:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_11: 55:00

All right.

SPEAKER_05: 55:00

Are you willing to take these tests? Okay. I will have to do this with you, because right. Come on.

unknown: 55:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 55:11

That's the end of it. Um Soy Team 6 Hug Hug Commander. What? The top comment on there.

SPEAKER_24: 55:21

Soy Soy Team 6 group Hug Commander. Uh, that's funny. Joseph, well done, sir. Um so I'm gonna read this. I don't know how well you guys can see it on there. Um high speed traffic stop. Um I don't really consider that high speed, but uh confrontation. Man, they really churched up the language in this. Deputies suspected bizarre statements, dilated pupils. Oh, somebody else called out her pupils. I couldn't really tell on the video. Um forcing her. She is now charged with DUI resisting arrests and related public order offenses. Oh, I didn't really give a didn't really give what she got. That's okay though. So, um, I mean I'm okay with everything that happened there. I didn't I didn't see an issue. Do you have any issues with any of that? I can't hear you there, Banny.

SPEAKER_01: 56:27

Other than the window break.

SPEAKER_24: 56:29

Uh yeah, the window break was I wasn't a fan of that either.

SPEAKER_01: 56:33

I understand the officer's upset. That's you you gotta contain those. I mean, she's not fleeing, she's not going anywhere. Go over there and punch that friggin' passenger window, get in there. You got enough guys to be able to light her up in there, ring watch her hands. Yeah. You know, you can go lethal if you need to, but just friggin' take your time, get her out, get her rear into jail, get her tested. She wants to act that way, and then go then go on to the next call.

SPEAKER_24: 56:57

Yep, agreed. Um let me Okay. We're gonna go over to actually we're gonna go to our Instagram stuff first. Do what we normally do where we talk about.

SPEAKER_01: 57:16

And I want you to stare at it because I did. I didn't even hear the content, so it's gonna be like I watched this for the first time. I don't know if he had a person come over to the house with some surgical tools to to get that mustache from the fire department completely put on there correctly. A little bit of humor. Y'all take a look and let me know what you think.

SPEAKER_24: 57:36

All right, here we go. We went to our Instagram pages of the ones that got the most comments and engagement, so we'll talk about them. Oh shit. Is that for real? What? Guess who joined us?

SPEAKER_12: 57:51

Oh shit, look at this guy.

SPEAKER_24: 57:54

All right, all right, man. We're gonna stop sharing. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. All right, what are you doing, you old son bitch? Man, look at that creepy stash we were looking at.

SPEAKER_01: 58:06

We were just talking about that shit.

SPEAKER_24: 58:09

Hey, y'all be nice to me.

SPEAKER_26: 58:12

I had to fly home so I can so I can get on for a minute.

SPEAKER_24: 58:17

I like that pink shirt.

SPEAKER_26: 58:18

Oh, you liked it? Yeah, my wife just yelled at me for wearing it on here, but well, it's because it's her shirt. You're saying it's young?

SPEAKER_24: 58:30

I'm saying it's you got it in size snuggles over there. It's uh cutting off your circulation. You better be careful.

SPEAKER_26: 58:36

I'm just a massive man.

SPEAKER_24: 58:38

I see that, yeah. I bet the tag says medium on there.

SPEAKER_26: 58:43

You tear them off immediately. That's how you hide the evidence.

SPEAKER_24: 58:46

Yeah, I know, right? How you been, buddy?

SPEAKER_26: 58:48

I've been good, man. I miss you guys, man. No shit. We've been the busiest man on the planet with with uh all the groups I'm getting running and working for my wife, aka Shidel Castro. She got me so busy it's not even funny.

SPEAKER_24: 59:05

I won't tell her you said that.

SPEAKER_26: 59:06

She'll watch it later. You can punch me in my sleep. There we go. Better work.

SPEAKER_24: 59:11

So um Tim said Eric PI. Keep them coming. Keep them coming, audience. Don't get used to the stash, guys. I only did it because I have a military thing coming up. Yeah, I didn't tell you, Matt. Um, I got a military ceremony that I gotta go to like the first week in November. So I I had to shave regardless. So I was like, I'm gonna have fun with it.

SPEAKER_26: 59:36

So oh, I saw the foo man.

SPEAKER_24: 59:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did the oh it so I didn't tell you this, but um, the whole two days that I had it that with the handlebars, I kept treating my wife like I was Hulk Hogan. So she'd come in the room like, what are you doing, brother? And she's like, Stop, it's creepy. I came in the room, I was like ripping my shirt off, like right before bed.

SPEAKER_23: 1:00:00

And I was like, what Hulkomania is uh about to happen right now.

SPEAKER_24: 1:00:04

And she's like, none.

SPEAKER_26: 1:00:05

I saw I saw that that that looked like uh dodgeball, the movie Dodgeball.

SPEAKER_24: 1:00:10

Yeah, with uh Ben Stiller.

SPEAKER_26: 1:00:12

Yeah, yeah, that was him.

SPEAKER_24: 1:00:14

Yep, yep, you're not wrong. Um, all right. Well, since you're here, brother, let's uh we were just about to get some of the Instagram videos that we got that uh got a lot of comments, so just kind of discuss them real quick. Um yes, please be sure to go to Matt Thornton's YouTube channel, Detective Matt Thornton. Follow that. Uh Matt is a part of the DTV crew, and uh I cannot wait for you guys to see what Matt has been working on. We've got editors and stuff working to put his shit. He has a show. It's just being put together. Um so we are putting everything together. We're trying to figure out how to market it properly, but all of these things are coming. Um did your kiddo get uh ready or not put on your computer yet?

SPEAKER_26: 1:00:57

Ready or not? No, I uh Chris walked me through it, so I gotta get that.

SPEAKER_24: 1:01:04

You son of a beast.

SPEAKER_26: 1:01:05

I had two I had two assignments. So this was a sign. I got the first one done. Okay. The second one is is coming next.

SPEAKER_24: 1:01:12

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_26: 1:01:14

He's gonna use me the the I guess you can do Bluetooth with the control thing. Yep. Yeah, that's how much I know. Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right.

SPEAKER_24: 1:01:23

Yeah, yeah, A B A B A B.

SPEAKER_26: 1:01:24

Yeah, yeah, like Star. He said it's not that one.

SPEAKER_24: 1:01:27

Yeah, yeah. I remember all of those. I remember my friend, my my rich friend, um, he had a game genie. Remember those? I was like, Yeah, so game genie is like you'd put your Nintendo game in it. And it'd be Nintendo, like it'd like be sticking out of the damn console, and it would show you it'd like unlock the game and show you all the cheat codes and things to do, like unlock everything. It's crazy. Fuck a cheater.

SPEAKER_26: 1:01:57

Literal cheat code.

SPEAKER_24: 1:01:59

Rich bitch. Uh that's alright. I beat him up and took it. Um just kidding. Alright, let me share this. Boom, boom, boom. Okay, so um so this one's out of Dearborn, Michigan. It's a it's a traffic stop for running a red light.

SPEAKER_28: 1:02:18

So come on, sir. He said, Y'all some house. How are you doing, sir? Officer Roman, I would do police. You know the reason for your stop today? No, I did pull you over for a reason. You blew the red light on Michigan Brady. Yes, you did, sir. It's on camera. I'll show it to you. Alright, before that, can I get your license for insurance, please? Here's your slip back. You'll be getting the citation for a red light. And now you want to see the video or no? Go ahead. I don't do this, I don't do this usually, but

SPEAKER_24: 1:02:56

So let's uh let's clearly establish here. I'm gonna pause the pause, okay? I I added this to the video. So you can see it is yellow on both sides. You can see the crosswalk right there. You can just barely see the red hue of it. But right now the light is yellow. And he's going to be coming. If you can see my mouse, he's gonna be coming from this side. Uh so the far side of the road, and he's gonna be going that way. He is not there yet. So the light is yellow.

SPEAKER_28: 1:03:30

It's already turned red.

SPEAKER_24: 1:03:32

Okay, I'm gonna pause it. He has not made the intersection yet. Um, he has not made the crosswalk yet. You can see the crosswalk saying do not walk. Over here, you can see both lights are red all the way across. So it's red as hell. So we're paused, we're paused. And you pass he's still not in the intersection, by the way. This is not him. That's a different vehicle. I want you guys to notice this. So it's red, red. That's double red. He's still not there. This car's got a full car length past the uh the line now. So he's still not out there. Now he's there. Now he's there. Now he's finally crossed the threshold. That's typically where that white line goes. Um, said you're in tactile. Someone please get that man a razor. Talking about me. So that's the Camaro crossing line. So for those wondering, at least in the state of Texas, as long as you're you've crossed the threshold of the the little white line that you see, you're good to go. That light could turn red. You you're that's not running a red light. As soon as you cross that threshold with the peak of your car, the tip of your car, it's not running a red light. Your boy was not there yet. He he ran the shit out of this red light. It wasn't even even close.

SPEAKER_28: 1:05:00

The red light. Listen, no, no, no, no, no. That's the red light for you. No, it's not. How about that? Listen, listen, come back with that video. Listen, listen, no, no, no. That's it.

SPEAKER_26: 1:05:11

If you want to come back with that video, come back. He's mad, he's big mad. Um if he can explain himself out of that one, I'd I'd like to see it.

SPEAKER_24: 1:05:20

Right. So the point that I tried to make with this video that I really liked was the fact that this officer took the time he that he didn't have to do and show him the video. I think that that's brilliant. I think it should be something that cops take more time to do if they have the capability and the technology. And here's my reasoning behind this, Matt and Bany. That may save the courts time and effort and tax money. If that guy's a ah fuck, that's that's what because that's what we're gonna show in court. So if it helps us get you out from from going to court, like we just save the taxpayers a lot of money, we I I think it would improve community relations because we're showing you, like, hey bro, like you did it's right here. Like, I'm not making this up, it's right there.

SPEAKER_26: 1:06:08

That's very transparent. Uh yeah. Uh what do you guys think?

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:16

I'm right there with you.

SPEAKER_26: 1:06:18

I think for those who think that this is like uh I'm not a huge traffic guy.

SPEAKER_24: 1:06:23

Yeah, me either.

SPEAKER_26: 1:06:24

But uh, but red lights that that and that is a big deal. My cousin, that's that's Melanie across my neck right here. My cousin was killed uh because of that. So it it can uh run that that's not something that that's too petty. I have no problem issuing a citation with that one.

SPEAKER_24: 1:06:39

Yeah, yeah. And and then the other thing too is like when you're the cop sitting at the light and it happens and there's other cars sitting around, and you don't do something, and they got it on their dash cam, you didn't even pull them over or try to make that stuff like that's bad too. Yeah, yeah. You don't want you don't want to be that guy either. Um, so this continues. Now I want you guys to listen because uh this is what Kingslayer had brought up um on YouTube. He got mad because he said, once you issue the citation, this traffic stops over with. And I don't agree with that. This guy was still trying to discuss the the stop. So I'm gonna play the rest of it.

SPEAKER_28: 1:07:22

You can make a court date? We'll argue in court, not over here. That's it, sir. I told you it.

unknown: 1:07:26

No, you're no the remote. I came across your face.

SPEAKER_28: 1:07:30

No, you didn't call it. No, you didn't. All right. If you want to argue, we can argue in court, sir. Not over here. Stay in your car. Get back in your car.

SPEAKER_24: 1:07:47

Tell you what I really like about this video. Okay, so um the problem that uh, and he's in the comments, but um, or he's on watching us tonight. So what Kingslayer had a problem with was that he told that guy to get back in the car. And he's told him that that's an illegal order. He can't tell him that because once the ticket was issued, that that is now the stop's over with. And I said, that's not true because what he did was reasonable based on this incident. It not every stop is black and white. And he was trying to bring up a Supreme Court case. And I said, I understand what that Supreme Court case is saying, but this stop was not over simply because he issued a ticket. This guy was still arguing and animated to the point where he hopped out of the cart real fast. An officer can tell you to get back in your car that is illegally parked because you're on a traffic stop and his red and blues were still on. So just because you hand a ticket over, that doesn't mean that the stop is officially over. It's a case-by-case basis. And in this case, the stop wasn't over. They were still jawing at each other as the guy's trying to the officer's trying to get in his car so he can end the stop. But then the guy jumped out of the car and he said, Hey, no, no, no, no, get back in your car. Completely legal. You can't get out of your car to begin with because it's running and you were parked in the middle of a uh driveway. So um, yeah, it may be a private drive, but it doesn't matter. This is still during the course of the traffic stop.

SPEAKER_26: 1:09:13

So that's an interesting argument. Like, what does uh what exactly does the Supreme Court say is would warrant it to end? Uh case by case.

SPEAKER_24: 1:09:22

Uh well, he had um, I can't remember which case it was, Rodriguez something or other. Um, but it the the other problem with that is is there's clearly court established rules that say things are based on reasonableness. So is that reasonable for that cop to tell him that during that time? Yes, it's reasonable. Just like I can put my hands on people and never arrest them. I can move them out of the way, I can, you know, disperse a crowd, I can do all these things because it's reasonable given the situation.

SPEAKER_26: 1:09:55

Yep. So reasonable is a big word, yes.

SPEAKER_24: 1:09:58

Uh and and he was like, Is that Trump Supreme Court law? Uh Rod V Rodriguez I can't speak. Rodriguez versus United States. I think it's v United States 2015. Um which fuck it. Let's pull it up. I don't want to feel like I gave him an unfair read here. So Rodriguez v United States 2015.

SPEAKER_12: 1:10:24

All right. Um we'll go with Justia.

SPEAKER_24: 1:10:28

Um, all right, we're gonna share the screen. Um somebody told me how to make that look bigger for y'all before. I just don't remember how. Uh maybe this? Can you read that at all? Let me see if I can there you go. Okay. Um let's see here. Can officer stopped driving on a highway shoulder. Where's the finding? I hate this is what I hate about pulling up a case. I need the I don't know how the site does its stuff. I want the findings.

SPEAKER_26: 1:11:20

I believe this is the one where they prolong the stop uh to get the drug-sniffing dog there.

SPEAKER_24: 1:11:26

Oh I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So um yeah, you're right. This is that one. So given that, this this stop was not unreasonably prolonged. And uh I'm trying to find um it's opinion uh this opinion is subject to formal revision. Oh, that's not it. Damn, where's the finding? See, so what I hate about doing this on the fly.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:55

While you're looking at that, I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_24: 1:11:57

Okay. Bandy's gotta drop the kids off of the pool. Okay, facts of the case. Canas are pulled over a vehicle driven by Denny Rodriguez after his vehicle veered onto the shoulder road of the highway. The officer issued a written warning and then asked if he could walk the canine around Rodriguez's vehicle. Rodriguez refused, but the officer instructed him to exit the vehicle and then walked around the vehicle with the dog. Dog alerted, presence of drugs, a large bag of methamphetamine methamphetamine was found. Having trouble tonight, boys. Uh Rodriguez moved to suppress the evidence found searching found in the search, claiming the dog search violated his Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable seizures. The district court denied the motion on appeal to the United States courts of appeal. Um the Eighth Circuit affirmed, holding that the search was constitutional because the brief delay before employing the dog was not unreasonably prolonged, otherwise lawful stop. Um the conclusion in a six-three majority, court held that the use of the canine after the completion of the otherwise lawful traffic stop exceeded the time reasonably required to handle the matter. Agreed. Uh, therefore violated Fourth Amendment right prohibit prohibition prohibition against unreasonable search and seizures because the mission of the stop determines its allowable duration. The authority of the stop ends when the mission has been accomplished. The court held that the seizure unrelated to the reason for the stop is lawful only so long as it doesn't it does not measurably extend the stop's duration. Although the use of canine unit may cause only a small extension of the stop, it is not fairly characterized as connected to the mission of the ordinary traffic stop and therefore is unlawful. Agreed.

SPEAKER_25: 1:13:48

So in that, with what we were referring to, it wasn't an extension of the stop. The stop hasn't fully over with yet, uh, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_24: 1:14:00

So what this is saying, yeah, he they was trying to do some other new action by bringing the dog out. This the entire action was about the ticket that this guy was getting for running the red light. So that would be my argument, and that's what I'm saying. So um Jerry Worm said, during my time, the attorneys would say more than 30 minutes was unreasonable after waiting for a drug dog. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_26: 1:14:31

Um, it's a lot shorter. We we've we always did a lot shorter than that.

SPEAKER_24: 1:14:35

15-20 minutes is about the most you're gonna get uh waiting for a dog. That's that's a that's a long time. It just depends, too. I mean, if you're working out in sticks like Banning did, I mean reasonable because that's how long it takes for anything to get to you. So um Marine Blood. Do you like Eric and Banning so much that you wish you could extend the show? You can join the Discord and share body cams for them to react to. Y'all it's so stupid. Oh shit. Oh, I love it. Um, Caps fan. I'm I'm gonna say he's a hockey fan. That's my boy. I like that. Uh I'm a Red Wings guy, obviously, but uh as I'm wearing a Texas hat, it just matched the shirt, y'all. Leave me alone. Um, Capson said, I'd argue Rodriguez doesn't apply here due to the demeanor of the citizen who stepped out towards the officer was trying who was trying to end the stop. I agreed. Agreed. Um Mims was convicted, he lost his appeal, and Scotus held the conviction. Oh, they must be having a side conversation about Mims.

SPEAKER_26: 1:15:40

Um Yeah, people get confused about Mims a lot because it it lost, and I believe the Court of Appeals, but then the Supreme Court upheld it. Yeah. So I've I've gotten in those debates before.

SPEAKER_24: 1:15:51

I have said that, and this is just for my own morals and uh ethical behavior in being a cop with Pennsylvania v Mems. I need for myself to be able to articulate an officer safety issue. Yeah. So it whether people want to debate, well, it's just carte blanche for you to be able to pull people out, regardless. Okay, I'm not a lawyer. I can't say for a hundred percent either way, but I can tell you that if I can articulate a reason, like I see him keep reaching, you know, center console, or he's trying to reach under his seat, or I see the hilt of a gun sticking out, you know, on the passenger side, whatever it is, I can articulate that. But I can't just say, Oh, you're being a pain in the ass, I'm gonna rip you out. I want you to have a car.

SPEAKER_26: 1:16:37

And that that's where it's taken advantage of. Someone's uh someone uses says I don't answer questions or upholds their rights, or somehow offends the cop's ego, and then oh, I got mems in my back pocket, I'm gonna control you. That's where it's yeah, I agree. It makes me sick.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:52

Yep. You get a super chat from King Slayer.

SPEAKER_24: 1:16:54

Yeah, yeah. King Slayer, he he's like, I need my he's like, I hope I'm not misrepresenting what you said, King Slayer, because we did have a really good debate going on. I think we were both very civil. We just disagreed. Um, but he said the opinion says the mission of the traffic related to the stop is to issue the ticket, and you can't prolong after the ticket was issued. He didn't prolong. He again, like I said, he gave a lawful order based on reasonable reasonableness given the situation, because the guy didn't let the stop end. He continued to argue as the officer was trying to end the stop. That just because you give the ticket doesn't mean the stop is over.

SPEAKER_26: 1:17:35

That was my that was an interesting argument. I was thinking it's like, okay, we wouldn't have the courts ruled that once that ticket hits his hand, the stop is over. So I was wondering if there was a specific ruling on that.

SPEAKER_24: 1:17:44

No, nothing like that. And they can't, they can't be that specific because stuff like this happens.

SPEAKER_26: 1:17:50

Yeah, it's so it's it's very subjective.

SPEAKER_24: 1:17:51

Yeah, um argument, though. But yeah, and it's great. I I again, Kingslayer, it's not that you have a bad argument, I just don't agree with it. I I think you're wrong, but that doesn't mean I'm right. It's just the way it goes sometimes. Uh but uh caps fan said correct, hockey is the best. Good luck getting back to the uh to the lofts this year. Yeah, we we're not gonna be. Um Craig Holcomb dropped five memberships. Thank you very much. Let's see who got them. Julie N got one. Congrats. Oh, BMHC Outdoors. He does comment quite a bit. He got one. Congrats. Show me the audit's always in here talking. Mike, Mike Cucumber that gives us a ton of shit. He got he got one. I love it. And Shane. Um, oh, by the way, Matt, did you see that Izzo's wearing a self-proclaimed hero shirt? Yeah, this motherfucker. I hate that he gave Ladner that that satisfaction.

SPEAKER_26: 1:18:50

Oh, Izzo.

SPEAKER_24: 1:18:52

Yeah, he's got the self-proclaimed.

SPEAKER_26: 1:18:54

He is something else, man. That guy.

SPEAKER_24: 1:18:57

He says you're just not reading it and saying I'm wrong. No, that's nothing to do with it. Bro, you just can't handle the fact that I don't agree with you. I think you're wrong. It doesn't, again, you could be right. I don't know. I'm not a fucking lawyer, but guess what? Neither are you. So uh it's it's interpretation, bro. And like I said, I'm willing to go to court on that and argue it. That's that's what if I was in that cop's shoes, I would have said the same fucking thing. Get back in the car. You're not gonna jump out while my lights are still on and I'm half-ass in the vehicle. It's not gonna happen, especially when you're not happy. This is it's a safety issue. Matt, you you speak out against this more than anybody. Is that reasonable with that copy?

SPEAKER_26: 1:19:46

I believe I believe it's it was reasonable. Because I mean, where does that end? Does he get you you let the guy charge at you?

SPEAKER_24: 1:19:51

Yeah, you let him get all the way to the driver's side of your car.

SPEAKER_26: 1:19:54

Okay, you gotta you gotta still I'd say until you pull away. That's that's what I would say. Until he pulls away at that point, it's he's still on a stop.

SPEAKER_24: 1:20:02

Yeah, yep, agreed. Uh I the night said no Marines blood. Drink. I forgot about that. Yep. Big uh um King Slayer said Matt is correct. Yeah, Matt is correct. I agree. Matt is correct. We we just told you. I told you the same shit. And guess what? Matt agreed with me. Um, so Izzo engages with his too.

SPEAKER_26: 1:20:30

Oh, Izzo, man. Hey, I I call him up uh a few weeks ago. I'd ask him something about something, and I mentioned something he said the night the day before, and he's he's like, Man, I say so much stuff. I don't even know what I say.

SPEAKER_24: 1:20:44

He doesn't even know what he's saying.

SPEAKER_26: 1:20:46

He is hilarious, man. I love that dude.

SPEAKER_24: 1:20:49

Uh I of the night said, hey, if Izzo's selling it as merch, he's making money off the ignorance. I love it. That's true. He's always said he's a capitalist. That is true. Oh man, yeah, that really does throw that rate back in his. I will help him sell those shirts if he sells them. I'll put them on my website too. Fug it. I don't have to make a dime off of it. Um, anyway, um, I of the night said he was pulled out into a lane of traffic. The officers can't leave that area until the guy is driving off. Um, that's a safety issue for the public and the driver as well. Um there's a bunch of side conversations going on. I'm just trying not to start. Uh Ray LeMay or Ryan Lemay said, just tuned in. You guys still on Discord? Yeah, they're on Discord. I mean, we're not right now. We're on live with this stream. So all right, let's get to another video. Um, another Instagram video here. Oh, you're gonna love this one, Matt. I can't wait to see your face.

SPEAKER_14: 1:21:56

Check it out.

SPEAKER_24: 1:21:57

Uh I just want you guys to tell me if you think what this cop did was wrong or right. Okay.

unknown: 1:22:09

All right, here we go.

SPEAKER_24: 1:22:24

It's got a wedding ring on, by the way. It's uh I'm Broward County. I don't mind calling him up. Matt, what do you say, buddy? Disgraceful.

SPEAKER_26: 1:22:38

Not a good look. Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? Not a good look at all. No.

SPEAKER_24: 1:22:44

What do you say, Benny?

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:45

It's not community policing. I understand you're out there. You he may be off duty out there or on. It doesn't matter. He's wearing his department of patch. If you're just wearing law enforcement, you should automatically feel disgraced to put yourself into a situation, married or not. The professionalism that you that you shall have, in my opinion, in uniform, that does not meet the guidelines anywhere. And that kind of pisses me off when I see it. So a lot of people send me this video too. And man, it's uh that's bad. That's to me, I don't know how they handled that, but to me it'd be like audios, dude. That's yeah.

SPEAKER_26: 1:23:19

Was there any follow-up on what they did today, dude?

SPEAKER_24: 1:23:21

I don't know. Uh uh. I'm not sure. I don't know how fresh that is. Um, but yeah, I'm not 100% sure. I I can't imagine at my department. There's no way.

SPEAKER_26: 1:23:31

I was smiling at first. I thought that was like a gag video, but that's real, huh?

SPEAKER_24: 1:23:35

No, no, that's real. Centurion tactical said that cops like some big.

SPEAKER_26: 1:23:44

He was famous now, not for not the not the right reasons.

SPEAKER_24: 1:23:47

Oh man. Uh Marine Bloods. Do you disagree and want to send clearer evidence than you can in YouTube? Join the Discord and post links and screenshots in the live stream chat. Oh, Jerry said I would be embarrassed. Like, I get it. And like I go into saying in the video, like I'm not one of those dancing TikTok cop guys. I don't like that shit, but there are some times it's organic. You see them doing, you know, like some Cuban dancing or the Macarena, or, you know, the I've been I've done the electric slide a couple times at stuff that community events because I knew how to do I know the dances. So, but it wasn't to go be a TikTok cop, it's because I was dancing with the community enjoying some barbecue. Um now, luckily they didn't get caught on camera because although I know how to do the electric slide without alcohol in my system, it doesn't look it's just more of a it's an electric stumble because I I don't have the rhythm when I'm not drinking.

SPEAKER_26: 1:24:41

Well, in all seriousness, how many I've been in so many drunk parties that there are there's inevitably women that will come up to me. I'm just like no no no no, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's simple. You just have some have some dignity, some integrity, and back off. You just let the chick work on you. Kidding me.

SPEAKER_24: 1:24:57

You don't have to be an asshole about it. I flick them in the forehead, but I mean, whatever. It's each their own, you know.

SPEAKER_26: 1:25:03

I'll take a plate, I'll take a plate from any anybody though. Yeah, I will take a plate.

SPEAKER_24: 1:25:08

Hell yeah. Yeah, if you pass it around, you know, potato salad, whatever you got, I'm in. Um, but yeah, uh looking through the comments. Um, Andy Fletcher said, the point I'm getting to is there is a false notion that LEOs have to demonstrate the safety concern in the moment. So folks are refusing to exit, getting oh, they're talking about something else. Um Jerry said, This is a few weeks old. That is not community policing. No. Uh oh, that's funny. Lisa Rogers said, Bet. Or said B E T. I don't know. Lisa is B E T still around.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:48

I know MTV is wrapping up its.

SPEAKER_24: 1:25:50

Yeah, I heard it. That's why I'm asking because I know MTV's like about to wrap it up. They haven't done music in forever.

SPEAKER_26: 1:25:56

I think you gotta download it. Oh, really? Like a stream. Yeah, streams.

SPEAKER_24: 1:26:03

My mom said Eric can throw some mean cheese at your head. I throw I threw I throw cheese at my mom. I throw them at everybody, throw them at the family. Uh I love it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:16

I stopped uh watching MTV, man, when they when they went into the reality-based crap and got off the music videos. I mean, I remember when the first friggin' music video came out.

SPEAKER_24: 1:26:25

So it's not like they got away from what made them gold. I I think bring back TRL, man. Total request request laugh.

SPEAKER_26: 1:26:35

Yeah, totally that was awesome. Five o'clock countdown, right?

SPEAKER_24: 1:26:39

Carson Daly and all them. Man, oh yeah, I love that shit. So, anyway, it looks like everybody in the comments is pretty much on the same. Uh Marine Blood said that's disgraceful. If I did that, I would also cease to exist. If he is married, his wife will have some words to say.

unknown: 1:26:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 1:26:56

I bet your wife won't kill you.

SPEAKER_26: 1:26:58

I mean, with the squad in the background, with the right, he probably should have lost his badge for that.

SPEAKER_24: 1:27:04

Yeah, like he if he would have just stood there, he probably would have been okay. That's survivable because he'd just be like, What the fuck do I do? Start walking. You could have walked away, whatever. But he danced with it, like he got into it.

SPEAKER_26: 1:27:20

And I've done it, like, none of it.

SPEAKER_24: 1:27:22

Hey, ladies, relax. You know, well, usually me, guys, guys, stop. Oh I'm married, I'm married to a woman with that mustache, yeah. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Hey, fellas, I mean, I appreciate the compliment. It is what it is. All right, let me go to this next video. All right, I'm on a mission, and this is this is starting it, y'all. I am on a sovereign citizen mission. So I've got about six of these videos that day after day after day after day. They're ready to go. I've already posted two. Um technically, I started on the part two, but I posted one a few weeks back, and that gave me the motivation to start showing all these sovereign citizen bullshit get crushed in court. Because those are harder to find. It's very easy to find sovereign citizen stuff where they try their nonsense on the side of the road, but hearing them and watching them try to get that in court, like I've been preaching for so long that it doesn't work. Now videos are starting to really come out. I think the judges themselves realize they need to start putting videos out about this.

SPEAKER_25: 1:28:29

So uh without further ado.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:41

Sit down. This is not your courtroom. Why were you not physically, personally present in the courtroom for your trauma?

SPEAKER_20: 1:28:50

Um to be coming for each person happening and let it be exited.

SPEAKER_24: 1:29:07

For the record, let it be known that you exited. I'm gonna keep going. Oh, by the way, there's the mustache if you didn't get a chance to see it. There's the sovereign citizen. Look at that. It's blowing up my mailbox lately. So, how have it's big in Texas? I've run into sovereign citizens a lot down here. Um, Matt, how much have you run into sovereign citizens up in Chicago?

SPEAKER_26: 1:29:40

Well, not too many. Um, I remember how it's not as big up here. I've had we had a real big case against one not too long ago. Didn't go well for him in the court. It was a pretty violent case.

SPEAKER_24: 1:29:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_26: 1:29:51

Um, they're dangerous.

SPEAKER_24: 1:29:52

You got to be careful with the sovereign citizen stuff or the American nation, they call themselves.

SPEAKER_26: 1:29:56

And and I got I got nothing personal against somebody. I got friends that are sovereign citizens. I'm just like, brother, I love you, but like this, and I and I can I can sort of understand some of your arguments, but it just doesn't work. These courts are saying this is not gonna work.

SPEAKER_24: 1:30:11

Yeah, no, it and it it's a lot of it is either outdated old law that they're trying to read that they don't realize is no longer valid, or it's legal theory. It's like ways that people have tried to show a way to argue something, but it it doesn't, yeah, doesn't work. Um, it's just legal theory that doesn't plan play out.

SPEAKER_26: 1:30:35

And I think that the most we seen it around is uh like the traffic offenses and stuff. You see that the traveling thing, and it's a it's uh they they quote the 14th amendment, which I mean I can okay, I see I see the argument you're trying to make, but just it's no no courts have have have upheld that.

SPEAKER_24: 1:30:53

Right, it would have been done before, like he it's not gonna fly. So um, and there's no there's no judge that's gonna set precedence in a traffic violation. Yeah, you know, there so um yeah, I I see that, and and this is this is how quickly the you me saw the judge got up and walked away during her speaking.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:14

Like that doesn't very happen very often. You knew what he was doing was telling calling the bailiffs to and and to stroke up a warrant real quick, yeah, and to be done with it, uh is what my opinion is on that period.

SPEAKER_24: 1:31:26

Yeah, yeah. He was yeah, he was gonna write that for sure. Um that's mud out real quick. Okay, no worries. Um I'm looking at uh Kingslayer, he dropped another five bucks. I appreciate that, brother. Um, so I'm trying to pull up whatever it was he was talking about, live stream chat. Um I'm in the live stream chat. I don't see what he's talking about. He said I posted the I'm gonna pull it up here. He said, I posted the Rodriguez wording in the Discord in the image sharing room. Oh, in the image sharing room. Image sharing room. Where is that? There it is.

SPEAKER_12: 1:32:07

Um okay, we got that. Let me see if I can share this on the screen.

SPEAKER_24: 1:32:15

Um yell at that dog. There we go. Share. Oh Jesus. Oh, we gotta zoom. There we go. Okay, it says stop. We hold that the police stop exceeding the time needed to handle the matter for which the stop made violates the stop made violates the Constitution shield against unreasonable seizure. A seizure justified only by a police uh observed traffic violation, therefore, becomes unlawful and is prolonged beyond time reasonably required. Required to complete the mission of issuing a ticket for the violation. So the court recognized in Cables, or however you say cabellas, and we adhere to the line drawn in that decision. Agreed. We hold that the police stop exceeding time needed to handle the matter for which the stop was made violates the Constitution. Agreed. Again, he wasn't extending the stop. That's my point. The issuance of the ticket does not mean that the stop is over because he needed more time to handle the fucking stop. The guy jumped out of the car. The stop was not complete. He hadn't even asked in his own vehicle yet.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:44

Yeah. It's a terrible argument. If you want to sit there and look at it, I mean now you got a guy jumping out into a friggin' roadway that's not in a freaking pedestrian cross.

SPEAKER_26: 1:33:53

I was gonna say if you if you want to separate the two, that's exactly right, Benny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:57

So now you have a whole new offense and your invisible timer starts again. Now we got another offense in our presence or view. I mean, if you want to sit there and just nut cut and put the onion on whatever, I mean, that's exactly what it is. I mean, is he suicidal? Is he walking into traffic? I mean, if they want to play games, we can play games. Uh, but the bottom line was he doesn't. We are absolutely responsible for that traffic stop. If a pedestrian gets out and now they get struck, you're looking at liability on the department, vicarious liability on the officer. So we can sit there and cut that, however, people want to cut it.

SPEAKER_24: 1:34:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:34:32

You have to re-engage, period.

SPEAKER_24: 1:34:34

The whole point is it was reasonable. Yep. It's reasonable. That's it. That's all there is to it. What he did was reasonable. Doesn't matter. That stop could not be completed because this guy continued the stop.

SPEAKER_25: 1:34:46

It wasn't the cop, this man did. So fair war. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_24: 1:34:54

I don't I don't agree with you. And I don't think there's a court that's going to agree with you. So it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:02

And we want you guys to keep bringing those. This it doesn't make that's what this is for. That's why Eric created this. Is this for y'all? This is not for us.

SPEAKER_12: 1:35:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:10

You know, this is for y'all. This is why we have this platform. So don't be turned down because we may argue or not agree on things. That's what this platform is completely open for. Bring and I like the argument.

unknown: 1:35:21

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_26: 1:35:22

I love it. If that argument was in court, I would watch that with popcorn. Yeah, it's a good argument.

SPEAKER_24: 1:35:26

That's why I even told him, I goes, it doesn't mean I'm right. I said this was a great argument for court. Yep. I said, we we would go to court on this for sure because I don't see what the officer did to be unreasonable, and I think that what he did was right. Yep. That cop couldn't even get his ass in the seat yet. The door was still open. Yep. So if that cop was in his car, shut the door, turned the lights off, I would have said the stop was done right then.

SPEAKER_01: 1:35:54

And you know, here in Texas, you're gonna go right back to the Randy Vetter case. You know, and that's an old, old, what is that 89 or maybe 93 case as a Texas State Trooper when he when he stopped the guy and was concluded the guy gets out with a freaking rifle and just comes right up. He gets out of that freaking car and it turns into a friggin' fatal shooting, you know, and the officers it's in their deceased. So you you you you are in charge of the safety of everybody in that stop bottom line. And I know people will argue that, you know, that's what we're here to talk about. But yeah, there's there's a lot of case precedents on that period.

SPEAKER_24: 1:36:27

I have no idea what side conversation is going on over here, but all I read was Andy Fletcher say, I can lawfully and constitutionally own a goddamn photon torpedoes if I want to.

SPEAKER_22: 1:36:38

That's the best random comment.

SPEAKER_24: 1:36:41

I want one, yeah. I don't know what conversation's being had on the side, but that's a great comment to read into. Oh man. All right, let's go to our last Instagram video, which is uh day two of our sovereign citizens trying their shenanigans.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:00

Wait a minute, Mr. Wait a minute, Mr. I think Mr. Garner has got to represent himself. Am I correct, Mr. Garner?

SPEAKER_21: 1:37:05

I'm representing myself in what? I mean, first off, who who's alleging these charges? That's what I'm curious about. State of Michigan, city of Detroit. Okay, well, if that's the case, there's a common law principle which states therefore there to be a crime, there must be a victim. Corpus delective. The state cannot be the injured party, and in the absence of a victim, there can be no crime. I don't want to proceed, Mr. Garner. Well, the court hasn't even established jurisdiction. I mean, in order for jurisdiction, jurisdiction has to be established first, and there's no jurisdiction established. Once jurisdiction is established, once jurisdiction is challenged, that must be settled before charges can be brought. All right, you want to put that in a motion, sir? As far as I'm concerned, any and all charges must be dismissed because there is no complaining witness. And the state cannot be. That's your motion. I'm gonna deny the motion. Okay.

SPEAKER_24: 1:37:55

I love I love that he just, if that's the motion, then I'm gonna squash that motion right now. That's the power of the judges, y'all.

SPEAKER_21: 1:38:03

So all we're gonna do now, we're not gonna keep four and back up.

SPEAKER_24: 1:38:08

Part three of this series. I told uh more of the mustache. Oh, yeah. All right, let me uh close this out. Um banning loves it. Oh, Brandar dropped five bucks for us. Brandar said, Um, what's reasonable to the police may not be or seem reasonable for the populace. It is an argument for the courts, indeed. Correct. Um, and a lot of rulings state it's what's reasonable to the officer, not what's reasonable to the public. Um so that's how a lot of rulings are is for what's reasonable to the officer at the time. So um, just just so you guys know. Uh, let me keep going here. Nina mentioned assault weapons rifle. Oh I that must have been about the photon torpedo stuff. I love it. I do you guys got me rate in my nerd, my nerd heart, because I'm uh I am I'm a rare bird. I like both Star Trek and Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:08

I think both awesome. You you pretty much have lightsabers behind you right now.

SPEAKER_24: 1:39:12

So I just saw a video recently where um they put their kid down. The kids just learned to crawl, and the dad put a uh a red lightsaber and a blue lightsaber on the floor to see which one he would crawl to. Yeah, I think the kid goes, he starts going towards the blue one. I was like, all right, he's gonna be the Jedi. And then he he like turns his head and then he goes right for the red one and grabs it. And he I was like, oh no, music, the the the Darth Vader music when he grabs it. Yeah, true. Yep, exactly. The Imperial March starts up. Yeah, it was good stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 1:39:46

You know what? If you have that available, that'd be good enough for our audience to see. That's actually I don't have it ready. I'd have to find it.

SPEAKER_24: 1:39:54

Um, but uh I want to get, I'm just looking through the comments real quick, but I would love uh we'll take this short little uh in-between time to thank another sponsor, Ghostpatch. Make sure you guys go over to ghostpatch uh.com, I believe it is. Let me look at my my captions. I think I've got some ghost patch stuff here. Ghostpatchcustoms.com. That's what it is. If you guys go to ghostpatch.custom, um, you can see like the the badge that I wear in a lot of my videos or our coins or patches and stuff like that. You can go to them, get that. Um, banning's showing the flex patch right now. It looks metal, it's not metal, it's uh kind of a rubbery feel, but um, it's got velcro on the back. So pretty cool stuff. If you guys want to help support what we got going on. Uh, if that's not your jam, um, I'm wearing a retro rifle shirt. Banning's wearing a retro rifle shirt. Matt's wearing his wife's shirt. So uh head over to retro-rifle.com um and check out their stuff. And while we're at it, I'm just gonna give Peregrine a shout out one more time. Turn your worst detectives in the show like home. Just go to peregrine.io and uh let them know two cops one donuts sent you to all of those places just so they can keep tracks that we're helping them out and that we're worth their time. All right. Now with that, um Papa Chuck said, I spend too much at Ghost Patch. Stop. Uh you know, our metal badge is on there. And just just saying, Papa Chuck, if you want to get a real wearable badge, two cops, one donut badge, you can go there. And when you go to Ghost Patch, just type in two cops one donut on the search and you'll find all of our stuff.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:36

Um and a liability disclaimer, I would not go like to the mall and wear it on a vest. Yeah, uh, even though it says two cops, one donut, what that portrays at 20 yards away is something different. So let me get that liability statement out there. This is great for the the household, but wherever you want to wear it uh at home.

SPEAKER_24: 1:41:55

Yeah, yeah. If you want to role play with your wife, whatever. I'll judge you. Uh caps fans said, uh, come on, Eric, you gotta be prepared for anything, and you call yourself a cop. That's what real cops like. Most of them. Oh shit. I've been on a rant lately of cops not knowing how to fight. Oh my god, dude.

SPEAKER_26: 1:42:15

So Isel had one up. Was it uh Taser and then right to the gun? Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 1:42:21

Yeah, that's one that I was talking about. I didn't, I don't think I did a video on that one yet. Um, but basically uh a dude, it looks like a townhouse are like smooshed up next to each other. So yeah, yeah. So altercation, and then two old white dudes arguing. Old white dude number two comes over that was the problem, and basically is giving the cop fuck around or find out shit, you know, trying to talk shit to him. And the cop immediately goes to his taser, which I don't agree with. Um, and he's way too close, so he doesn't understand the taser. Taser that would have been the perfect scenario for a taser, because if you knew how to use it, you would have got good spread, and this guy would have been down real quick. I bet he would have gave up, but that's not what happened. He was too close, and then when that didn't work, the dude switches over to his gun and murders the guy, and yeah, unarmed dude. And um, I I hope he goes to prison.

SPEAKER_26: 1:43:21

Yeah, that was that that's the the shirtless one, right? Yeah, yeah, the shirtless one.

SPEAKER_24: 1:43:26

Actually, if I can find Izo's video, let me do that real quick. Um, while we're doing that, Matt, tell people about what you've been filming so they have an idea what to expect.

SPEAKER_26: 1:43:36

Oh, we've been sitting down with people, kind of doing this, but kind of doing different people's stories, making uh podcasts, making I powder up in the room so I'm not so shiny. I look look like a bona fide movie star. I like it. But yeah, we're we're just we're sitting down with different people and and uh talking about cop stuff, and but not other cops, but uh some some street cats, some uh normal citizens. Uh, I got a therapist on there, I got a uh I got a pro boxer coming on next week. I got uh just a variety, ex-gang members, nice variety of people.

SPEAKER_24: 1:44:11

Okay, is it your therapist?

SPEAKER_26: 1:44:13

Uh yes, the most busiest woman on the planet, right?

SPEAKER_24: 1:44:19

Um okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_26: 1:44:20

But she's very interesting, she's she's awesome.

SPEAKER_24: 1:44:22

Okay, I got the video. I didn't pull up Izzos because it's not long enough. I wanted the uh the longer version so you guys can kind of see this dude. Um but this one's on BJJ Cops on Instagram. I like this.

SPEAKER_12: 1:44:38

Yeah, that's the one.

SPEAKER_24: 1:44:40

So we're gonna play it.

SPEAKER_12: 1:44:42

Do it.

SPEAKER_24: 1:44:44

Do it by the way.

SPEAKER_25: 1:44:48

This is how this actually there's like four more minutes prior to this where this guy's trying to the officer's trying to talk to the victim, and this guy just walks up like this and is saying this shit. Do it you should try something. You should fuck around and find out. Like, that's what he's saying to the cop. And the cop's just kind of blowing him off, and then the guy's he's pressing his luck, obviously. I didn't honestly didn't have a problem with the tasing.

SPEAKER_24: 1:45:15

Like, tell the guy, hey dude, you're turn around, put your hands behind your back. Like, something to that effect.

SPEAKER_25: 1:45:20

I don't even know if he tells him that, but he tries to tase the guy because he keeps coming up to him and bucking and doing stupid shit. And now he tries to tase him. Too close. That's why it didn't work.

SPEAKER_18: 1:45:33

Come on, yeah.

SPEAKER_19: 1:45:39

Oh come on, come on, motherfucker. Come on, motherfucker. Why are you fucking lasering me? Because you were already trying to hit me. I didn't try to hit you. Yeah, you're moving up on me. So now I'm bleeding. So now I'm now I'm bleeding and you're doing a central. Go ahead and send me back up. Subject tried to attack me. Got him at gunpoint right now.

SPEAKER_24: 1:45:59

Fucking gangster, too. Look at that. So close. You need to get down on your knee. So, officer magnetized to the bad guy. He's coming in with his gun. This is a bad move. Shouldn't have done that. We're taught to create distance, not close distance during these situations.

SPEAKER_26: 1:46:18

Well, what in a deadly force situation anyway? Why is this?

SPEAKER_24: 1:46:21

Correct. But he used probably the only other option he has than his hands. I bet this dude doesn't have a baton, and I bet he doesn't have pepper spray.

SPEAKER_19: 1:46:31

I haven't done anything wrong.

SPEAKER_24: 1:46:32

Get on your knees. And you're definitely never supposed to go hands-on with your gun in your hand.

SPEAKER_19: 1:46:37

Ever. I haven't done anything wrong.

SPEAKER_24: 1:46:41

Now, that dude did screw up by grabbing the gun. He does try to grab it and push it away, or tries to grab it. I I can't tell which which one he tried to do, but he does touch it. But that officer used that excuse to use his gun. And in that, I would say he caused that exigency. He's the one that caused it to ramp up into what it ramped up into. Um and left himself no other choice than to use his gun in this opportunity. Then backs up and decides to light him up more.

SPEAKER_26: 1:47:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 1:47:18

What was the continuing threat? He didn't approach you anymore. Do we know an outcome?

SPEAKER_26: 1:47:24

Is it too early for this one?

SPEAKER_24: 1:47:25

Um, I think it's too early at September. Well, maybe. I don't know. But I'm pretty sure that guy didn't make it. Yeah, he died. Oh, he did die. He's on yeah, yeah, that guy died. Yeah, okay. And then the officer based on administrative leave pinning investigation.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:45

I know how that's gonna freaking end, wouldn't it? Yeah. Oh, where is this?

SPEAKER_24: 1:47:50

That guy deserves to be in fucking prison, dude. Yep. That was the biggest pussy I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:56

Prison with no pants.

SPEAKER_24: 1:47:58

Seriously, and that's where I'm getting into. You need to know how to fucking fight.

SPEAKER_26: 1:48:03

It's time to that you don't want to, and I'm not justifying whatever that guy's behavior was, but we're we're supposed to be trained to deal with that behavior properly.

SPEAKER_24: 1:48:11

And this is where I get into looking because everybody wants, and let's be honest, there is a lot of things that they want cops to be masters of, but they don't pay us enough or train us enough to do all those things. And when they do, they only do it after we've got the badge, which is it's way too late. That's like becoming a doctor. And they're like, All right, I know you haven't been to any surgery classes yet, but we're gonna throw you in on this surgery and we're gonna have an FTO over your shoulder. I want you to cut like fuck no, you don't do that. It's the same with police work. You're gonna go hands-on, it's gonna happen. You may never shoot somebody, but you're gonna go hands-on. So why can't that be a prerequisite before getting into the job? You need to show some sort of grappling efficiency that you wrestled for years, that you went to jujitsu for years, you went to these places. I don't know how to standardize it, but perhaps there can be some sort of grappling test. I don't know. Something just to get in the door. Show that you've you've been, you know, you go to approved gyms, you go to a Machado gym, you go to a Gracie gym. Um even boxing. Um, boxing wouldn't be bad. I don't think boxing helps us in police work too much.

SPEAKER_26: 1:49:33

Um, because it's boxing, boxing it not so much as the offense, but it shows you take a shot, it ain't gonna hurt you. Right. Yes, most of these guys are terrified to get hit, right?

SPEAKER_24: 1:49:44

And I I think the the the judo side, the catch wrestling, wrestling, yeah. Um, all of that will help you get into a cuffing position. Because anytime somebody is is you know not compliant, that's that arrest is gonna go to the ground. And you gotta know what you're doing when you get down there. So for me, I think there needs to be a prerequisite for becoming a cop and and grappling is it. It's gonna lower use of force, it's gonna humble the officer, they're gonna know that they're not Johnny badass on the block. Because that's what jujitsu did for me, the and everybody that I've ever known. They realize really quick that there's a lot of sharks out there, and you're not very big.

SPEAKER_26: 1:50:27

Yeah, teaching how tough you're not, right? But but teach you to get confident and not be afraid of that physical contact.

SPEAKER_24: 1:50:35

Yeah, so in this case, I mean, geez, oh Pete, this is uh old dude. This officer may be old. I don't know.

SPEAKER_26: 1:50:43

He's my age, he's an old guy.

SPEAKER_24: 1:50:44

Is he?

SPEAKER_26: 1:50:45

The officer no, the guy that died, he's 50. Oh, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_24: 1:50:50

Those are two totally different 50-year-old builds, bro. That that would have been a belly shirt on him, which you're wearing right now. So um, I'm let me look through the comments there. I know we uh Mr. Bill Fold, IA will find no wrongdoing. I don't think they're going to on that, bro.

SPEAKER_26: 1:51:12

Um I've been surprised too, my guy.

SPEAKER_24: 1:51:15

I've been surprised before. Yeah, Bill Fold went on a little hiatus. Um, we actually had this discussion. Uh I talked to Bill Fold on the phone, and um one of the things that he I had been experiencing myself was, you know, now that I work in a real-time crime center, and you know, I thought getting off the streets, I wouldn't be seeing as much, you know, traumas. But now that I work in a crime center, I see more traumas. I'm not physically right there, but I see it all and I see the calls and I see all the details and I see officers, you know, running after people and them getting hurt, officers getting hurt, and you know, just trauma, trauma, trauma all the time. And then when I do this stuff, typically this is the type of stuff we're seeing as well. So I'm just getting like for me, I have to take like I don't watch the news ever. I never watch the news. I try to limit all the negative stuff that I see. And Mr. Bilfield, when we were talking, like he I think he just reached a point where he's just seeing too much negative stuff and and letting, you know, he's an emotional guy, uh, as we know. And um, it was just tearing him up. So we had to take a break. So he he backed away. We didn't hear from him for a while, and now he's back. And it's the same with us, you know, like that was the point of he and I talking about it. I was like, bro, we just gotta we gotta know when to step back from this stuff because it will eat us up. I don't want it to change who I am. Yeah, I want to stay positive. I want to be a positive I am a positive person, so I want to stay positive. I don't want to get stuff like that. But uh Brandard dropped two bucks in the super chats there, and he said, uh, or even be able to demonstrate uh mock takedowns. Yeah, yeah, agreed. Being able to take people do takedowns is is huge. Um Kingslayer said, I'm not even going to beg begrudgingly say it was justified. No, there's nothing about that justified. Nothing whatsoever. That was uh straight up homicide murder.

SPEAKER_26: 1:53:14

Yeah, that was straight up murder.

SPEAKER_24: 1:53:15

Yep. He I I honestly believe he got close and used that guy. Who here's a test for y'all. I want you to go take a rubber band and and do this to somebody. I want you to take that rubber band, if you can see me on the thing, and just get it stretched back and do this towards somebody. You see the camera? I want you to just do that towards somebody's face and get it close. See what their reaction is. Yeah, the exact same thing. They're gonna do that. It's gonna be the same fucking reaction. It's instinct. What that guy did was instinct, and like I said, you created that instinct because you came into him with your gun right in his face. That's natural.

SPEAKER_01: 1:53:58

So Chaplin Campbell, thanks for uh hanging out tonight. Appreciate hanging out with you.

SPEAKER_24: 1:54:02

Yep, yep, yep. He jumped on. I wish I would have brought his book. He sent his book in to me. Make sure you guys check out Chaplin Campbell's book. Um, I cannot remember the name of it off the top of my head. Something about grounds. I'm gonna pull it up. Chaplin Campbell holy grounds, maybe? Book. He'll post it in the chat because he hears me. Uh I hope he puts it up there. Because I'm not finding it. I know it's brand new. It's something grounds, god dang it. I probably shouldn't say god dang it to the chat more.

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:43

I think the way you worded it's okay though. You're not taking the Lord's name in advance. Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_24: 1:54:48

Thanks, man. Thanks, Banny. Uh there he goes. Holy grounds. Let me I'm gonna pull that up. See, I was close. Holy grounds.

SPEAKER_22: 1:54:57

Coffee cops. Chaplains, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12: 1:55:05

Uh Holy Grounds. That's not it.

SPEAKER_24: 1:55:10

Well, Chaplin, we gotta get that thing up on the uh Google search because it's not showing up on the first couple pages yet, because it's so new. Let me see if I can find it. Paperback.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55:24

Chaplin Campbell, if you can just throw that link up there direct just so we can get it to the viewers.

SPEAKER_12: 1:55:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55:30

And then I want you to get a great night. Bless the link, brother. Thank you for coming on. And chap.

SPEAKER_22: 1:55:38

How do you spell that? Chapter. That's a big word.

SPEAKER_24: 1:55:46

I'm looking. Yeah, I guess not. It is not showing up on Google, bro. Doesn't like him. When we find it, we'll get it up there. Um, but yeah, brother, appreciate you. Uh read the chat, Eric. I'm reading the chat. What am I what did I move? Did I miss something? Love you, Mr. B. Uh Lovey, Freeman. Did I miss something? Okay, that's all I see. Um, so got quiet there for a second. Alright, let's get over to our videos.

SPEAKER_26: 1:56:32

I I got a five-minute warning.

SPEAKER_24: 1:56:33

Uh-oh. Okay. We'll get to the first one. We're gonna say give credit to police activity because that's where all these come from. Uh, shout out to them. Make sure you like, subscribe, follow those guys. They're sitting at 6.79 million subscribers. Um, I love that I have uh I can't remember what it's called. VidIQ, I think it's what it says. Um, vid IQ tells you what it estimates what a page makes a month. It says that police activity is making 70,000 to 209,000 a month on their YouTube channel. Nice fucking insane. They're rated uh for subscribers, they're in the top 5,000 for their number of subscribers. Good job, guys. Because I guarantee you, two cops, one donuts not at that level. All right, we're gonna share this tab here, and you guys know the thing. Oh, I have seen this one. Oh shit. I've seen this one, I'll just put it that way. I've seen this one. Um, but it's a good one, so we're gonna keep sharing it. Got a traffic accident.

SPEAKER_22: 1:58:17

There's the audience.

SPEAKER_24: 1:58:28

Okay, so anytime we have a rollover accident, especially when you get on this dried grass, my immediate concern is fire. Um, because you're going to have oil and gas that leak out of these things, and it doesn't take much to spark anything. And cars have a lot of electrical wires going around them. You never know what's clicking and sparking and doing things. So him trying to get whatever's in this car out fast is a very intelligent decision because you never know when this thing's gonna go up in flames.

SPEAKER_17: 1:58:59

It's hey under here. We need to move the car.

SPEAKER_19: 1:59:13

Keep moving, keep moving, keep moving.

SPEAKER_24: 1:59:22

I don't know if you guys noticed, but that baby was ejected and under that car, not in the car. There's nothing to get your adrenaline going more than when it's a child. This I stay pretty calm at most things. This will get my adrenaline through the roof. Yep. So the this officer is I I heard the other person say that the baby's got a pulse, but the baby doesn't look conscious, so um, I'm curious if this officer, given the CPR, maybe he doesn't feel a pulse. I don't know. Sometimes you think you feel a pulse and you really don't.

SPEAKER_15: 2:00:29

I think I feel a breath. I feel a breathing.

SPEAKER_19: 2:00:41

There it is. Here we go.

SPEAKER_24: 2:00:47

I think what he's doing is the street. Now they can call themselves self-proclaimed heroes. I hope she's okay.

SPEAKER_01: 2:01:23

This is news. Yeah. This this is this is what the the American people, people around the globe need to see. Yeah. You know, this this is officers every day out there. Um and that's all I'm gonna say. I agree.

SPEAKER_24: 2:02:18

Yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing fucking work. Oh yeah. I like that. That's that's what police work's all about right there.

SPEAKER_26: 2:02:28

Yeah, what do you don't what's not talked about enough? Um, but though you you see that beautiful stuff right there, but then you've been a part of those ones where you don't get that cry. Yeah, you have to then you have to go to the next call. Those are preaching. Yeah, we gotta stay ahead of our mental health.

SPEAKER_24: 2:02:46

I can't believe they found him first. Like, honestly, that was a crazy spot. I didn't, I was um, but reading the I'm just reading the police activity. Said uh Sergeant R. Nichols, badge 3590, and Officer E. Bounds, badge 3521, with help with a witness to the accident, were able to free the trapped child. Sergeant Nichols immediately began to perform the CPR on the unconscious infant. Eventually walking the child, waking the child and keeping her alive until a med star arrived on scene. At this time, the woman and infant are in stable condition, expected to make a full recovery. Good work. Good work. Absolutely. They should be getting the highest of medals that the that department can offer. So that was amazing. I like showing that stuff. Why can't we have that stuff all the time?

SPEAKER_26: 2:03:41

Good training. Nobody panicked. They didn't even talk about it. They just knew what to do. They didn't talk about it really.

SPEAKER_24: 2:03:46

Yep. And and then also, you know, hearing them say, you know, I'm glad to hear that cry. Yeah. Like some people may take that the wrong way, but you want to hear something. Yeah, you want to hear something. But uh Matt, how much time you got?

SPEAKER_26: 2:04:02

I gotta guess we gotta end on that good note. I gotta guess I gotta get it.

SPEAKER_24: 2:04:05

I don't want to I don't want to have you leave on a depressing note. So no, that was a wonderful note. That was a good one to leave on, buddy.

SPEAKER_26: 2:04:12

All right, I'm gonna get out. Uh love you guys, and uh we'll be talking soon.

SPEAKER_24: 2:04:16

All right, brother. Take it easy. Yep, later. All right, and then there were two. All right, let me uh let me pull the next one's only a minute and nine seconds, so it's very short. Let me see here. Share screen. And okay. Well, this one's out of CL. Can see it right there. Okay. And play.

SPEAKER_04: 2:04:50

Yeah, let's go on. See if you have a fire screen or something. God dang, man.

SPEAKER_24: 2:04:56

No, that dude on fire.

SPEAKER_18: 2:04:58

Hey! Hey, roll, man, roll! Get on the ground, I'd drop a roll, roll, roll.

SPEAKER_24: 2:05:02

Yep, that's what I would tell him to roll. Get on the ground. You hear the reaction though? They're like, what the fuck? Like, this is the shit you come across sometimes. And then he's gonna run from the cops while he's on fire.

SPEAKER_01: 2:05:16

Oh he needed a guy like you with a mustache to roll up and put that shit out real quick.

SPEAKER_24: 2:05:21

Yeah, exactly. I could have probably put it out with my mustache. I wouldn't even have to touch him. Just if you just blow through your mustache, it just fires. Oh, I'm just going going back to I didn't even think to read some of the comments, but uh Brandard said, Y'all cheated. Give me something we can we you gave us something you can't criticize without feeling like a monster. Uh that's funny. Uh Eye of the Night said, Wow, that gave me chills. Freeman said, Buy the mistake and a beer. Agreed. Uh my mom said, I can't. Reminds me too much of when oh, geez, we're not gonna read all that. Uh Marines Blood said, Here's a challenge. Let's find and share as many good cop videos as possible and make a whole show of it. I like that. Uh T Ward, liar, liar. Ward, you know I can't say too much. So all right, let's keep going with this fire, liar, liar, pants on fire video.

SPEAKER_18: 2:06:27

There you go. Yeah, roll, roll, roll.

SPEAKER_24: 2:06:34

He got to his fire extinguisher quick. That would have taken me a while.

SPEAKER_01: 2:06:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 2:06:38

My fire extinguisher is like in the back. Like, I gotta go get it out on ass, open the fucking back hatch, get my bags out of the way, and grab it. Like, it would have been a pain. He got his quick.

SPEAKER_04: 2:06:56

You want to broadcast that we fire extinguished him?

SPEAKER_24: 2:06:59

But we're still fire extinguishing him.

SPEAKER_04: 2:07:04

What happened? Yo, man.

SPEAKER_24: 2:07:08

This is a golden opportunity for him. I don't know. I just started running. Yeah, this is caught flame, bro. I'm quick.

SPEAKER_01: 2:07:14

T Ward said this is a hot call. And Lion Liar pants up. This is life-saving techniques.

SPEAKER_24: 2:07:23

Yeah, this is uh this is more life-saving stuff. I don't see any use of force. I guess he ran out of panicking. He didn't know what to do.

SPEAKER_28: 2:07:31

Good. We got fire on the way. Just don't move, okay? Just breathe.

SPEAKER_24: 2:07:37

Center tactical. I can't believe they set him on fire just so they could film rescuing him.

SPEAKER_01: 2:07:42

Somebody said short is burning up on the dance floor.

SPEAKER_24: 2:07:48

Y'all are wrong. Oh, Brandar. Uh he probably couldn't recognize the car as police with the with the fire at his feet and their headlights in his face. Yeah, you're not wrong. Turn those red and blues. Turn on those red and blues. Yeah. And thank you, Brandar, for the five bucks.

SPEAKER_01: 2:08:07

I still want to know how he friggin' got himself caught on fire.

SPEAKER_24: 2:08:10

Yeah. Hey, I just maybe a month ago, a dude I watched him on video light himself on fire. What he did. He regretted it. So um Ward, these are not my pants. Oh shit. Marine bloods. Now it would be appropriate for him to say, I can't breathe. You guys are brutal. Uh eye of the night. Hard to s it is hard to breathe when surrounded by CO2. They're lucky he was still breathing. Yeah. Yeah. The fire will eat the oxygen around you. Alright. Um okay, that's the longer video.

SPEAKER_22: 2:08:55

The seven-minute one.

SPEAKER_24: 2:08:57

Here we go. Here's another minute long. Okay, let's share this screen.

SPEAKER_12: 2:09:07

And biggie size. There we go. And play.

SPEAKER_04: 2:09:18

Is this your car?

SPEAKER_24: 2:09:19

He's gonna run. He's gonna run. Okay. I don't know what's going on with that guy, and I know nothing about this car. I have not seen this video. He about to run. He went to grab it. I think that's when they fired.

SPEAKER_17: 2:10:06

You have some money? You have some money? Summer three three. Someone's fumber. Someone's fumber.

SPEAKER_18: 2:10:39

I don't know where the gun's at.

SPEAKER_19: 2:10:40

What's right there next to his arm?

unknown: 2:10:44

I got.

SPEAKER_24: 2:10:46

Yep. Damn. Wow. Mr. Billfold. Wow, double parked. Stop that violent felon immediately before he is the passenger in another double parked vehicle.

SPEAKER_01: 2:10:59

Totality of the circumstances.

SPEAKER_24: 2:11:01

Yeah, I don't know what they were stopping him for, so we can only really go off of what we see. But let me read through and see what they got in the comments. Um Stockton police conducted a proactive vehicle checkout in their area. Officers discovered a 19-year-old male sitting, who was double parked. Hey, okay, so Mr. Billfold read this one, I bet. When they approached him, he stood up and attempted to leave the vehicle, ignoring the officers' direct orders. A struggle ensued, and as he resisted their attempts to detain him despite multiple commands, he remained noncompliant, aggressively pulling away and ultimately breaking free during the struggle. He lost possession of an illegally extended handgun magazine that had been concealed on his person. So that was what we seen fly by was a mag.

unknown: 2:11:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11:53

Um during a foot chase. When when the when the officer first walked up, he described the PC to the pastor of the vehicle. The vehicle was double parked and then it went into the conversation.

SPEAKER_24: 2:12:04

Oh, okay. I didn't hear that part. Um I get so busy looking at what I I'm looking for the indicator. I just saw a run indicator right away. That's what I got focused in. I was like, this guy's gonna run. Um the suspect dropped the loaded firearm while fleeing. In his attempt to retrieve the weapon, he kicked it forward. So that's what we heard. That that's what it looked like to me, like he was leaning down to grab something. He kicked it forward, then ran after it, remaining re-arming himself despite repeatedly ignoring commands from the officers. This series of events that we led to the gunshots. Um that goes into do we have uh probable cause for anything on this?

SPEAKER_01: 2:12:47

If he's sitting in the passenger seat, unless there's more to the story, but I I have the same problem with it. Yeah. You know, as far as I'm concerned, you have an unoccupied driver's seat. Right. Vehicle is abandoned with somebody sitting in the passenger side, right? You can make contact.

SPEAKER_24: 2:13:04

It's a consensual contact, but if he starts to run, what do you you got nothing to go on?

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:11

Anything. So I've got I've got some issues with contact to begin with.

SPEAKER_24: 2:13:15

Yeah, the contact. Like I said, it can be consensual. You can come up and make contact and all that. But if that guy decides he wants to unass and get out of there, I mean it could start with, hey man, how you doing?

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:27

This vehicle's double parked. Do you know where the driver's at?

SPEAKER_24: 2:13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:13:30

Are you are you the registered owner? No, man. I don't know. You got nothing.

SPEAKER_24: 2:13:37

It's one of those things, no doubt this kid was up to some bad stuff. Sure. But don't get down with Yeah. What's your what's your PC here? I don't know. I think this one's gonna be bad for them. I think this is gonna be bad. So I don't know. Again, and it just because this is what it says on you know, police activity doesn't mean they have the whole story. Maybe there's more to it. We don't know. But based on what I see, the if the contact's based off double parking, you need the driver. So I don't know.

unknown: 2:14:19

Mr.

SPEAKER_24: 2:14:19

Billfold said they created the exigency, and it yeah. I mean, if they would have just let him go, see it. Because he didn't have anything to do with that car being parked there, at least that I knew. I don't know. Um we'll see.

SPEAKER_01: 2:14:39

It's the mentality on everything. I mean, you gotta look back and let's look at the entire investigation. Did this come in? Was that a you know, uh was this on purpose to state the double parked when they already knew what was going on? Did they use that as coming up? What you know, pretextual is not uh illegal defined by the Supreme Court as long as they have other stuff to go off of. I mean, there's a lot of things. We're going off a YouTube video. We're going off y'all just saw. And I'm in agreement, but if some of these things, some other people have sent me the entire thing, and it's like, okay, not the specific one, but other things we've shown in the past year and a half, this, and I was wrong in some of my opinions on there. And I don't I will eat crow, eat words. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But all I can do is base my opinion on what we're watching right now with you guys.

SPEAKER_24: 2:15:25

Yeah. Yep. Um, Mr. Billfold said, those cops will not get in trouble for this. I bet uh I will bet a dozen donuts. Well, listen, I'm not gonna let your negativity, Mr. Billfold. Let's try to stay positive. You don't know that. We'll see. Um we will see. But yeah, that was uh I don't know. I'm not a fan of that PC based on what we thought about.

SPEAKER_25: 2:15:54

Um let's go to this one. Okay, this one's a little longer. Share screen.

SPEAKER_12: 2:16:05

Alright, and Biggie says and play.

SPEAKER_07: 2:16:17

Hey hi, sorry. I want to report there is an Orion and Portina 3 are called like a home in it next to the bridge with a beer in the hand and a gun.

SPEAKER_06: 2:16:27

What is the location?

SPEAKER_24: 2:16:30

Orion and Portina. Was that a German Luger?

SPEAKER_01: 2:16:34

It looks like something.

SPEAKER_24: 2:16:35

Did you see it like an old German Luger looking thing?

SPEAKER_01: 2:16:38

What do they call that? Like a P36 or something?

SPEAKER_08: 2:16:41

19 animated play. Can you give me the description of my thing on the left side of the three way? No black shirt.

SPEAKER_18: 2:17:04

Let me see your hand! Hey, drop that.

SPEAKER_24: 2:17:08

This is gonna be a suicide by cop. Yep. This guy's got a he's either a demon or he's drunk off his ass.

SPEAKER_01: 2:17:17

I was gonna say it's probably gonna be the the latter of both. He's gonna have a little bit of mental issues with a lot of alcohol on board, which never equals out to be anything good.

SPEAKER_24: 2:17:25

Yeah. You guys, Ryan LeMay. Got any more videos of people on fire asking for a friend? What's wrong with you? Uh if it goes viral, they may not try to cover it up. Yeah, fair. Uh Brandon, Mr. Billfold is positive they won't get in trouble. Oh shit. All right, let's keep going here.

SPEAKER_27: 2:19:07

Has anyone requested an array yet?

SPEAKER_24: 2:19:10

I like one person taking control. This is actually being ran very well. Telling them to go take care of that other guy.

SPEAKER_01: 2:19:44

Is that what that means? Okay.

SPEAKER_27: 2:19:56

Okay, what only one shooter? Is that correct? Okay. Let's get what's bringing them in. Let's start seeing the arm.

SPEAKER_24: 2:20:10

They probably don't have anybody.

SPEAKER_27: 2:20:16

Um I need to do to do is make sure that we get the RA up here right now. And then we need to start locking this down.

SPEAKER_01: 2:20:24

And and Eric, I said rescue, I meant, or I mean I said rural, I meant rescue ambulance.

SPEAKER_24: 2:20:30

Ah. Okay. Oh, I like that one. That was good. I mean, I didn't have an issue with that. He pointed a gun at him. Um I'm gonna read the um was armed with a glass bottle and a firearm as the helicopter went overhead. We know what happened. Attempts to gain compliance, using RoboClan, he fails, fired. Uh transported to where he was pronounced deceased. Oh, it was a plastic replica. It wasn't even a real gun.

SPEAKER_01: 2:21:08

When you got something that looks like that and you're you're pointing it at anybody, including law enforcement, you have to expect the ladder on it.

SPEAKER_24: 2:21:15

So yeah, you can't uh somebody names jokes funny. What up, Banning Levine? How are you doing? Doing good, jokes funny. How are you, brother? I like the name. That's awesome. Uh that is LAPD, the best police department in Los Angeles. I don't know who jokes funny is, but I like it. He's already funny. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Uh it's LAPD, the best department in Los Angeles. All right. Let's uh let's go to the next one. Nobody's really saying they had a problem or didn't have a problem with that one, so I'm assuming everybody was okay with that. It makes sense. One shot. Two. That was a pretty good distance away. Fairly impressive. Um Brandar donated five dollars and he said, Thank you, Brandar. I appreciate that. He said, Why waste time finding out who did the shooting before rendering aid? Yeah, that's true. Sometimes you got a lot of steps going through your head. I just think he I don't think that was intentional. Um jokes funny said, Levine, I'm joining the army, and I take the army test really I don't do what Levine and join in the army and take the army test. I don't do go and going to the army. Oh, I don't know what the fuck he just tried to say. Stop drinking. Alright. Let's uh play.

SPEAKER_07: 2:23:17

I'm sorry, you said your husband's attacking someone? Okay, what's the one?

SPEAKER_24: 2:24:15

You agree, Banning?

SPEAKER_01: 2:24:17

Oh, absolutely. I mean it's you listen to the chaos on that, and then whatever they're they're putting in the cat or whatever the officer is reading in route, if they don't have to happen to have that listen 911, it's whatever the dispatcher puts in there. It sounds like she's put some pretty prominent information in there for that uh responding officer to read.

SPEAKER_24: 2:24:34

Yeah, Centurion Tactical. Need a stash like Eric, join the Discord for grooming tips. Stupid. Oh shit. Uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna test the door first by checking the knob and seeing if I can get in there before I just start trying to kick. I know a lot of officers they just go up and try to kick the door because they've got an excuse to do so. Check the door first, guys. Usually it works out.

unknown: 2:25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24: 2:25:02

No, no, he's open the door. Okay, he tried it. That looks like a metal door, though.

SPEAKER_03: 2:25:09

Open the door.

SPEAKER_24: 2:25:14

That was a bad thing.

SPEAKER_18: 2:25:25

Put the nut down. Okay, shut up. Put the nut down.

SPEAKER_24: 2:25:34

Okay, that's awesome. Yep. He separated and asked and clarified who's the bad guy. Because we've shown a video on here before where the cop shot the wrong person. And when you watched, it made sense why they shot the person they shot. Turned out it was the wrong person. So he distinguished between victim and suspect on the fly of a very tense situation.

SPEAKER_01: 2:25:59

And he obviously wasn't putting that knife down, and it's it was probably in an area that's gonna cause serious bodily injury, and he had no other choice.

SPEAKER_24: 2:26:05

Yeah, it kind of looks like in the blurry. If you look down by the, it looks like there's blood there. I can't tell. Maybe shadow.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26:11

Right.

SPEAKER_24: 2:26:12

Hard to tell through that blur, but whatever happened, he he saw something that caused him to pull the trigger.

SPEAKER_03: 2:26:19

Get back, everybody get back. 706 shots fired. Out here, out here, out here, get out, everybody get out. Out front.

SPEAKER_27: 2:26:29

Yeah, that's blood.

SPEAKER_03: 2:26:32

Move. Can you walk? I mean, stab. Get away from the knife. Sir, try to walk your way out there, please. Is there anybody else in the house?

SPEAKER_24: 2:26:41

I like that. Yeah. You can help yourself help you.

SPEAKER_03: 2:26:43

Everybody get outside. Subject stack gunpoint. I've got one stabbed. Where are you stepping?

SPEAKER_24: 2:26:52

He's he's Agnal. You can hear the breathing. Yep. The bad guy. For those who don't know, you hear that. That like that is I didn't mean that to sound perverted. It kind of did. Agnal breathing. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:07

When I did, I go, Oh, that was dirty. Well, you just did stash breathing. There is a difference.

SPEAKER_24: 2:27:12

Yeah, the stash breathing. So dumb. Yeah. Um, so in this, there's there's certain sort of sounds you hear when somebody's dying, and that breathing is one of those. That moaning that you hear this guy doing is a type of agnal.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:28

And and just to clarify, we're not laughing at somebody dying.

SPEAKER_24: 2:27:31

No.

SPEAKER_01: 2:27:32

Umfortunately, Eric and I both have seen too many people at this stage of their life.

SPEAKER_24: 2:27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 2:27:38

So um Where you stab, sir. Our main victim's gonna be in a gray robe. I'm trying to get him to go outside. Incoming unit, just come in the house and help this guy get out, please.

SPEAKER_24: 2:27:51

Okay, very good communication.

SPEAKER_03: 2:27:56

Try to walk out for me, okay? Where are you stab? Shoulder. Okay. For fire, I've got at least two stab wounds, one to the shoulder, one to the neck for a victim. I'm coming for it. There's a knife right by his left hand, and then another blade down by his leg there.

SPEAKER_24: 2:28:16

I don't know that we need the rifle, guys. I don't want a rifle.

SPEAKER_19: 2:28:46

We got a med kit up here. Yep.

SPEAKER_12: 2:28:50

Uh yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 2:28:53

Um I mean I think we know the the outcome of the suspect.

SPEAKER_24: 2:28:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:03

It's it's uh unfortunate that anybody has to lose their life. But when you go when you go like that, man, and and and bravo to that officer getting in that house as quick as he did on his own.

SPEAKER_24: 2:29:13

Yeah, I thought that was amazing. He got in there fast, he went right to the problem. He deciphered what the issue was, he took the time. Like that was actually really, really, really good police work.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:24

I I believe a life was ended in that, but it wasn't the, and I hate to say it, the wrong life.

SPEAKER_24: 2:29:28

Yeah, he saved that guy. He absolutely saved that dude's life. Um, absolutely saved his life. So Ari Ariel said that was a lot of police in that hallway. It was. Um Brandar rifles in tight spaces. This seems like a stupid decision. More of the display of efficiency. Yeah, I'm with you. I I think uh a lot of times cops, when they get these tools, they're taught how to use them, but not necessarily when to use them.

SPEAKER_01: 2:29:58

No, and there's a lot of a lot of people share their what's called general orders or their their rule books from across the country asking, for whatever reason, my opinion on it. And a lot of them are is once dispatch states an officer is out with somebody with a gun, they have to go to paragraph subsection C, paragraph two. If you have a rifle and a shield, you shall grab such items to enter the premise, whether it be a domicile or open space for protection. And a lot of these guys are just following orders. Yeah. Right, you know, right, wrong, regardless. I mean, they're they're following orders on it.

SPEAKER_24: 2:30:33

Yeah, that was uh that was Mr. Bill Fold said it. That was a uh he said uh that cop handled the chaos masterfully, and that it was a certified shit show. That was a shit show. Oh, that is hard to walk into. You don't know who's all the good guys, you don't know who's all the bad guys. Um, and he was able to to get it figured out on the fly.

SPEAKER_01: 2:30:56

That that that primary primary officer will probably crack open a couple beers that weekend uh just to uh to get to get through that mentally. I mean, he's you know, we're watching this as a three-minute segment of our of our year and a half long show that Eric and I have been doing this together, and this dude's gonna be living with that for the rest of his life. I mean the officer on what he had to do, on the action to take to save a life. Yeah. We don't take this lightly anytime we watch something like this.

SPEAKER_24: 2:31:22

Yeah, it was uh yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, Mr. Bill Fold. I would have made a horrible cop, but one thing that I would not have ever done is resort to deadly force un unless necessary. And then uh Nina said, might not seem right to outsiders, but like we do as regular citizens at times, like funerals, we just use that same thing. LE are no different. We should not judge. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Let me um share this next one here.

SPEAKER_22: 2:31:55

We're right at 2 30, so share.

SPEAKER_12: 2:32:05

Okay, let's go, Lisa. Okay. And we're playing.

SPEAKER_22: 2:32:16

I don't like that. There we go.

SPEAKER_24: 2:32:29

Got some closed circuit cameras. We must be by the police sector.

SPEAKER_22: 2:32:50

What are we doing?

SPEAKER_24: 2:32:53

Making a visit to the police station. Your boy's driving a Pontiac.

SPEAKER_01: 2:32:57

He's put oh yeah. Oh he hit the car.

SPEAKER_24: 2:33:01

Is this dude drunk? Was anybody I don't think anybody was in that car.

unknown: 2:33:10

No.

SPEAKER_24: 2:33:11

He he booped him.

SPEAKER_01: 2:33:12

He said the car's running. You can see the exhaust coming out a little bit.

SPEAKER_24: 2:33:18

Oh, was it?

SPEAKER_01: 2:33:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_24: 2:33:20

Okay. Now our police cars, as far as I know, they don't have any indicators that it's been hit or anything like that that'll tell you. No. So this guy's getting in his car.

SPEAKER_01: 2:33:32

He's got his car's been hit. If the Ford exploder gets hard enough, he's about to get really hit.

unknown: 2:33:37

No.

SPEAKER_18: 2:33:45

Guys, this guy just ran me.

SPEAKER_24: 2:33:47

Yeah, that was that was intentional. There was there's no debate, and that wasn't like he was driving down the road and then accidentally he slammed on the accelerator. This guy did this on purpose. Yeah, I'm gonna use my truck and pin that car. Well, I don't think it's going anywhere, but yeah, now we're extracting this guy.

SPEAKER_16: 2:34:14

Stay right there. Stay right there.

SPEAKER_24: 2:34:49

I think he was caught in limbo because he was probably gonna go try to shut that door. And it ended up fizzing in that crossbar. Oh shit. Yeah. How do you prep how do you train for that?

SPEAKER_01: 2:35:05

I mean, just proper training. I mean, this is situational awareness at its finest. Yeah, I mean where are my guys at? Where am I standing at? If I'm in the wrong, fucking readjust yourself right now.

SPEAKER_24: 2:35:16

Yeah, I don't know. I don't fuck, man. I think everybody was just trying to figure out figure it out as like this. This is weird. This doesn't happen. So Jesus. All right, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_12: 2:35:31

Yeah, he did. Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 2:35:36

That gum.

SPEAKER_12: 2:35:37

Yeah, let me let me see if he made it.

SPEAKER_24: 2:35:40

Um suspect exited a vehicle with a knife, continue to ignore verbal commands. He then raised a knife, charge at the officer. Uh immediately calling for medical assistance, transport everywhere. He remains. Oh, he lived. He's in critical condition. Uh as of October 23rd. So holy shit. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:06

It is.

SPEAKER_24: 2:36:07

Yeah, I I you know, I get why he told him to go shut that door because now that guy had access to a running vehicle. Yep. So fair. Yep. But man, they they they unintentionally put themselves in a really bad crossfire position.

SPEAKER_01: 2:36:23

So and and and uh a couple of agencies I've worked for in the past have have put little safety nuances within their patrol cars to where somebody can just hop in and take off. And basically you had to know where the the safety mechanism was before you dropped that thing in drive. Um and it's it became an issue and it eventually removed because it was kind of in a in a different location of every car. And if you're sharing fleet vehicles, the last thing you need to do if you if you're trying to put it in drive and avoid a collision from behind you if you're in the car, sometimes that safety mechanism slowed that down. Uh and I get it that those departments were just trying to keep cars from getting taken, knee-jerk reactions, and we get little safety things put in. Basically, it was a little bulb that was put somewhere under the floorboard, and it wasn't exactly placed and in the same uh position in every vehicle, and it kind of made it a a maze to be able to put that thing in drive really quick.

SPEAKER_24: 2:37:20

Yeah, yep. Um, Mr. Billfold said, well, Nina San uh Chandra said that was intense. Yeah, that was intense. And then Mr. Billfold said, Have you guys noticed that when it's a righteous shooting, body cams are out in two days when it's questionable, the shit is released three years later. I don't I don't think that's true.

SPEAKER_01: 2:37:45

Not at all, but no, I understand what he's trying to say.

SPEAKER_24: 2:37:47

Yeah, in some departments, yeah, but in some other departments they release very quickly, they release it real quick and they continue with their investigation. Yep. I think I think more so than ever. The controversial ones get get released pretty quick. But then you got guys like that prison one. Remember when they were throwing the lady out? Oh, yes. And that video didn't even get released, it was found through a FOIA.

SPEAKER_01: 2:38:08

That was a county jail, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_24: 2:38:10

Yeah, that jail. So like I said, I don't I don't just it's hit or miss. Hit or miss. Um departments they're way ahead of it. And I'm like, damn, kudos to y'all. Like, that's pretty good. And then like Mr. Billfold, so yeah. So it's it's all over the place. There's no consistency, that's the problem. No, there's nothing. There's no consistency. That's the real issue. Let's get some consistency out there. But that is that's all. We're we're a little over two and a half hours to try to try to keep it down a little bit. Um, but yeah, this was a good episode. I think we got a lot of videos in today. Shit, we went through at least four Instagram videos. We went through a fuckload of police activity videos, showed a video that somebody shared, got a lot of good conversations in there. Um, very good, very good stuff. Uh yeah, he said yes. We know that the transparian accountability are hit and miss in this country. Yeah, I agree. Um but yeah, I I I want to give you guys some little bit of news. We've got some good news. Uh, we got looks like we've got a uh soft backer right now. It's not in on in writing yet, but they did tell us that they want to do it. Um looks like we got a soft backer for about five episodes um of the Tech and Order show that we got. So we're gonna start filming. Uh, we're not sure yet when, um, but we want to give you guys the good news. Uh, we just found that out this weekend, and this is the first we're letting you know. So things to look forward to. Um we're hoping it leads to bigger and better things, and we'll see what we can do with it. So very excited. Uh and and then and this is what I was worried about, Brandar, when I said it. Because I this one of the last things I want is national standards for policing. Because then we start federalized, then we become federalized. And police departments need thank you for the five dollars, by the way. But um police the states. I I I I would be okay to keep it at the state level. Maybe some national standards at the state level, but I don't want it to go national.

SPEAKER_01: 2:40:22

I have no problem with it with the statewide. I mean, that's how we get a lot of our stuff changed in Texas, you know, whatever state you're in. And a lot of those changes are good. I don't agree with all of them, but a lot of those changes are good. Um, but when you get become federalized, you should be worrying about that. Yeah. I don't think more government is better for everybody. Um state level, yes. Go to your state capital and and and look for what you're trying to do and push it. You get with your legislators, push it. But yeah, when you become saying nationally, we need to do this, that's a red flag to me.

SPEAKER_24: 2:40:59

Yeah. I don't I don't like that. Um now there are things that I would like that involve law enforcement nationally, national police registry. I want to know who's a cop, where they're a cop, when they became a cop, with their jackets, or always. 100%. If they get fired, if they quit under investigation or are allowed to resign under investigation, all that stuff. That needs to be a national public record.

SPEAKER_01: 2:41:24

Yeah, possible criminal charges coming, that type of thing, period. I mean, that's that's that's 100% transparency.

SPEAKER_24: 2:41:30

So um yeah, Wade Lucero. I'm good, I'm good going back to well-regulated militias. Uh you say that until we have it. And then you're gonna be like, well, having policing wasn't that bad. Mr. Billfold, this is a surprising take. He said it needs to be federalized. The states and the municipalities are not enforcing standards. I am not for more government, but something has to force the hand of police culture. You guys created the need.

SPEAKER_01: 2:42:01

Uh, I that's at state level still, though. You can get that done at state level. And I think federal, you want it done quickly and now we want it done too for the transparency, period. That's but it could be done at state level. I and Mr. Belfold 100% simplify, understand the reason you want that. We want it done now across the country, around the world. However, it needs to be done at state level. And then if it cannot be done at state level, then we look at next steps. Um, and it needs to be done now. It needed to be done 20 years ago, probably before.

SPEAKER_24: 2:42:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:42:35

Understand.

SPEAKER_24: 2:42:35

Because it's it's crazy, especially in Texas. When you just look at the cult the culture of policing, look at look at Austin versus uh Waco, Fort Worth, Dallas. Look at look at the culture, just with the citizens. The culture in Austin is not going to like the style of policing that they do in Dallas and Fort Worth. I promise you. Or Waco. So uh when you start changing and making standards, like they're not gonna work in certain places. So by standardizing, I think you're actually gonna cause more issues than than fixing issues. Just a thought. I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? So uh any news going on with you, Bangny?

SPEAKER_01: 2:43:22

No, man. Work is good, life is good, family is good. Uh just the norm for me. I just uh pray for others, man. That's uh that's what we're here to do. So no, everything's good. What about you, brother?

SPEAKER_24: 2:43:34

Nothing for me right now, sir.

SPEAKER_01: 2:43:36

Just kind of getting back into the swing of things after all the uh conference crap and you know, are you uh are you are you volunteering on your days off to go be a volunteer fireman or what's going on with that?

SPEAKER_24: 2:43:47

Uh I might think about it. I I saw some smoke above the trees the other day and couldn't help my guy. I actually grabbed my water bottle and started running. I was like, what the hell happened? The mustache just gives instincts you didn't know you had.

SPEAKER_01: 2:43:59

Right, right.

unknown: 2:44:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:44:03

Make sure you clean it thoroughly.

SPEAKER_24: 2:44:04

Yeah, so I'm gonna keep this bad boy until um uh the end of the first week of November.

SPEAKER_01: 2:44:10

So here's the real question. Once that uh ceremony is completed and you're back to normal Eric duties, are you growing out a beard or are you gonna focus on the mustache?

SPEAKER_24: 2:44:21

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01: 2:44:22

The beard's coming, yeah. The beard's coming back. I guess I should say what does the wife want? Because that's the important part.

SPEAKER_24: 2:44:28

She wants the beard, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 2:44:29

She's good. We're good then.

SPEAKER_24: 2:44:31

He said she's okay with the mustache. She goes, it doesn't bother her that much, but she absolutely wants the beard back.

SPEAKER_01: 2:44:37

So she doesn't want to call you like mustachly or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_24: 2:44:43

So who wants a ride?

SPEAKER_01: 2:44:47

Good stuff, man. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_24: 2:44:49

Oh shit. All right. Um, that's all I got, guys. Uh, everybody, thanks for listening. Everybody for the donations. Brandard, especially tonight. Brandard's fucking he always he's been spoiling us lately. I he must have got a raise.

SPEAKER_01: 2:45:03

And that other that other dude, I can't remember his name now.

SPEAKER_24: 2:45:05

Polcomb?

SPEAKER_01: 2:45:06

Uh Slayer, or I don't can't remember his name.

SPEAKER_24: 2:45:09

Okay, King Slayer. Yep, King Slayer did as well.

SPEAKER_01: 2:45:11

We appreciate everybody's. And we we do try to, as we're going through this, to read every comment over there. Um, you know, the ones that come to me direct on LinkedIn. I get back to you within 24 hours. If you're not on LinkedIn, get there. It's a good, even for your personal business, whoever you're working with, LinkedIn is a great tool to have. It's growing tremendously each and every year.

SPEAKER_24: 2:45:32

Yep. And please join our Discord. Yes. Yeah, our Discord is uh it's very fun, very uh we do a we talk about a lot of stuff um on there that we don't get to talk about on the show. We get to see videos and you get to share a bunch of different things. It's just it's a cool way to build our community up even more. So um, other than that, guys, uh I will see you guys later. Take it easy.

SPEAKER_01: 2:45:57

Appreciate it, y'all.