Two Cops One Donut

From Tarot Reading To Tactical Reality: Policing, Mental Health, And Myths About “Better” Countries

Sgt. Erik Lavigne & Matt Thornton Season 2

A canceled guest and a sudden pivot turned into one of our most honest nights on the mic. We brought in Marsha, a tarot reader with a near‑death story that reshaped her faith, and asked the tough questions: Where does intuition belong in a world of evidence, policy, and risk? Can a deck of cards actually help someone cut noise, check ego, and choose better? The debate stayed respectful and real—some of us leaned hard on Scripture, others leaned into curiosity—and that tension set the stage for a deeper look at how we make decisions when the pressure rises.

From there, we got practical. Marsha broke down Tarot 101 as a framework for clarity—cups, wands, pentacles, swords—and read a live question about the future of our media project, pressing us toward temperance, not force. That theme carried us into policing: a viral “other countries do it better” claim unraveled as we watched overseas punishment clips, a Halloween stop with a real gun, and a reminder that context matters more than soundbites. We didn’t crown any nation “best.” We called for nuance: training depth, legal norms, surveillance culture, and population challenges all shape outcomes.

The heart of the episode hit with mental health and tactics. A trembling voice on a bridge call, teen suicides that haunt veterans, and the case for anonymous, third‑party counseling. We outlined an ego class rooted in neuroscience—how to recognize when your brain flips from logic to fight‑or‑flight, and how to reset before force decisions go sideways. Then we dissected bodycam: measured K9 deployments, when a shield should pin instead of provoke, and why hallway crossfire discipline saves lives. Accountability matters, too; if police hit the wrong door, restitution shouldn’t be optional.

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SPEAKER_11:

Donut podcast, the views and opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of two cops one donut, its host or affiliate. The podcast is intended for entertainment and informational purposes only. We do not endorse any guests' opinions or actions discussed during the show. Any content provided by guests is of their own volition, and listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions. Furthermore, some content is graphic and has harsh language. Your discretion advised and is intended for mature audiences. Two Cops One Donut and its host do not accept any liability for statements or actions taken by guests. Thank you for listening. What's up, my brother? How you doing, man? Uh, a little bummed out. We had big plans. It was supposed to be you and me with the uh with uh Bruce Bryan, who um had been uh convicted 29 years, uh wrongfully convicted um through a corrupt system. And uh he had a family emergency and couldn't make it last second. So he's promised to come on, I think, next Monday, or he is going to do the show. So we've got him. We just gotta get him we gotta get him uh on a day where shit's not going on. And it's crazy because I had to leave work a little early today because I had the same issue that his family emergency. Basically, he had to take a family member to the hospital, and it was for Vertigo. And I left my work today because of Vertigo. I didn't think I was gonna be able to do the live myself. So I was actually supposed to be on Coley and Noir's podcast today, and I had to cancel on him because I had to go home and just try to sleep it off. I didn't know what the hell was going on, but slept it off, uh jumped back on, and now I'm seem to be doing okay. A little slight dizziness, but I think I'll be all right.

SPEAKER_12:

I researched uh a little bit of research on Bruce. It's interesting, dude. I can't wait to have mine.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a good episode. Um, I think you and I tag team in that. Um, speaking of, we got a lot of good feedback at our last uh tag team project, that video that we did put together. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude, I got a lot of good feedback. A lot of people like that. They were really pumped up about that video. So good deal. I know you and I always talk about doing that more often. It's just it's hard, bro. We get busy. Coordinate, yeah. Yeah, so it's like I need Matt to go record and not screw up his recording so I can edit it.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, that's how it usually goes. I'm getting the hang of it a little bit.

SPEAKER_11:

I think you've gotten a lot better. You've gotten a lot better. Now all I gotta do, you you may not have noticed, but I sped up your video.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, yeah, I noticed.

SPEAKER_11:

You notice okay, yeah. I sped it up so you talk a little quicker.

SPEAKER_12:

Yep, no, that's okay.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, then even if you told me no, I was still gonna do it.

SPEAKER_12:

So I know, I knew that.

SPEAKER_11:

Because you're a bully. I am a bully. Okay, so special treats tonight. One, I am emailing a person that's gonna join tonight, uh, who specializes. It has nothing to do with policing, but you know what? You gotta you gotta broaden your horizons occasionally. So we're gonna have a tarot card reading live on the stream. So we're gonna have a tarot card reader here, um, named My Tarot Mom. That's the handle she goes by. Marcia, Marcia, Marcia Rothschild. Um, and I am emailing her a link to join right now. So give me one second, and then I'm gonna tell you guys about your other surprise. It is Marcia Rothschild. I'm making sure I spell this right. Okay, and sent. All right, so I sent her the email, so when she can join, that'll be great. And then I'm going to show you your guys' other surprise. You may recognize him from such things as Discord and all the Discord messages he pops out. He goes by Tim. Timmy's. What's up, buddy? Let's get you, let's biggie size you.

SPEAKER_04:

Biggie size me.

SPEAKER_11:

Yep, there we go.

SPEAKER_04:

How's it going, guys?

SPEAKER_11:

Live and in studio, the bearded Tim is here.

SPEAKER_04:

The never-ending beard. I love it.

SPEAKER_11:

I know, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I got it all cut up and all trimmed up just for you guys.

SPEAKER_11:

I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh the guy that has my back more than anyone on the internet.

SPEAKER_12:

I love it.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't like people messing with my friends, man.

SPEAKER_11:

Right?

SPEAKER_04:

I'm not counting on people. Um, I'll wear I'll rock that orange jumpsuit. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_11:

I want you to go. Oh, I I just realized I'm not even fully putting out it's a little chilly in Texas. Uh Retro Rifle, official sponsor. I want you guys to make sure you check that out. Uh, Tim is wearing rockin' the graffiti, and uh I am wearing my Tom Sellick Magnum P.I. Had to go with the mustache, you know. They all go together.

SPEAKER_04:

Now you just gotta get that Ferrari out front, and you'll be good to go.

SPEAKER_11:

And uh Matt's wearing his brown shirt.

SPEAKER_12:

That's my five-pack from Walmart shirt.

SPEAKER_11:

Hey, it look it I can tell it's wintertime because you're not wearing the wife beaters anymore.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, no, no, they have snow all morning.

SPEAKER_11:

But yeah, guys, make sure you check out Retro Rifle. They've got hidden guns on all their shirts. So you you're looking at this and you're like, it's just a Hawaiian shirt. No, there's hidden guns in there. So I got one too. That's what makes it cool. I know, right? They're great. They're great. Um, if you guys want to help support the show, we do have Alan behind the scenes. I just want you to know I sit with Alan. He is back there rocking and rolling today. Uh, he's got his higher speed internet allegedly. Um, but uh he is throwing up links right now for the buy a buy me a coffee. I hope that was the right link. I think one of our links was broken at one time. I don't know if we ever updated that. Um, most importantly, I want to say happy birthday to the Marine Corps from the Air Force. I'm saying happy birthday, number 250, I believe it is for them. So uh what do they say? Hura. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. All right, our other special guest has just arrived. Apparently, the link worked out, Miss Marcia Rothschild. Is that correct? It's Marcia. Oh, I said Marcia. It looks like Marcia, Marcia, okay, yeah, it's okay Marcia Marcia. My bad.

SPEAKER_01:

You I you can call me anything you like, it doesn't really bother me.

SPEAKER_11:

Okay, ma'am. Well, I can tell you right now, I've got zero experience with tarot card reading. Uh, boys, do either of you got any experience with that? No, none at all. Tim?

SPEAKER_04:

My old lady's got some tarot cards, and she's she's uh she considers herself pagan. Pagan, pagan or witch, I don't know how you want to call it, but she's got tarot cards, never had it read, never done anything with them, but okay, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_11:

So okay. Well, Marsha, I would love for you to introduce yourself, give us your background, and uh tell us what we can expect.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, well, um, I'm Marsha Rothschild and I have a site called My Tarot Mom. And uh I've I've done this for I've been a casting director most of my life. I own a model agency in Tokyo. Um, I do a lot of different things. I love helping people. Uh, but in my 20s, I had a really crazy experience occur when I was in New York City. I had a friend of mine who own art galleries take me out because my grandfather had a pretty big art collection, and I thought that's what he wanted to talk about. And he was like, Hey, you know what? Um, my girlfriend died. And I'm like, wow, I didn't know you had a girlfriend or that she died. I'm so sorry. And he said, Well, she came back to life. No, don't worry about it, but she has a message for you. And I was like, Do I even know this woman? And I didn't. And uh she said, I said, What's the message? And he said, Your mom has five tumors in her left lung. My mom is in Chicago, I was in New York City. Um, my brother was running uh part of a major hospital in Chicago, and uh my mother was very shy, smoked, but very not a lot, but just a super shy, self-contained individual. And um, she'd had a cold. So I'm like begging my brother to get her, you know, to the doctor. Please, please get her to the doctor. You know, he's like, I, you know, hi, I work at a hospital, is what he's like. Don't worry, she just has a cold. Three weeks later, my mother had five tumors in her left lung.

SPEAKER_14:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and they gave her a uh six-month, you know, death sentence. And I went to see this woman in Brooklyn, and she was Greek, little, like four foot eleven, looked like Pippi Longstocking, had like the wild shirt on, the little ponytails, and she was sounded like Wanda the Good Witch at the time because she was just still just after her Andy, her near-death experience, kind of in this very elated space. And uh she said, Oh, don't worry about it, all your mom's tumors will disappear, and students will come to see her. I was like, Who is this crazy lady? I mean, you gotta be kidding me, and um, all of my mother's tumors disappeared. Wow. Students from Rush Medical University Hospital in Chicago came to interview her.

SPEAKER_09:

Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so it was kind of cray cray. And um, I just got, you know, I was pretty much an atheist, I guess I would say at that point. My parents had told me they had faith, but they didn't believe in man-made churches. I could go to any church I wanted. And I remembered being in high school and going with a girlfriend to a Catholic church, and she had to do something after. So I'm just in the church by myself, and I walk up to this beautiful large cross of Jesus Christ, and I said, you know, I don't know exactly what I said, but it was like I'm pragmatic. I I can't believe in something that's just air or blank. If you want me to believe in you, you're going to have to show me a miracle. And um my mother, the miracle was my mother, and uh it's just was a trip. So I went with her to like a psychic party, and it was pretty funny because it was either artsy people that I guess most people would call woo-hoo, but there were several women who looked just like the ladies and poulter guys. Do you remember the ladies and poltergeist, the little teeny round women with glasses? And I was like, this is killing me. Like this is like I feel like I'm in Hollywood. What's going on? And they were like, Oh, you really have a gift for tarot, da-da-da-da. Well, you can look at the cards and somewhat figure out what they mean. But it stuck with me, and I started doing tarot, and I think what started to occur was you you do it and then you kind of get scared of it, but not scared of it because of evil or anything negative. I have a deep, deep faith in God. And um I remember the time I put them away was I uh was helping a lead Atlanta. I kind of became a gun for hire because a lot of my children, some all of my children are under the on the spectrum. And um, so I didn't always have to work at home. I had to always make a deal, like I'd help flip a model agency to a higher level, but I would not be in the office so often. And I was doing a reading for a young man and his girlfriend, and I just started to hear, I guess what you would say, the guides. I call them guides or souls, you know. And I said, Oh, your grandmother's so funny. And he got this really, you know, real strong southern young man. And he's like, Oh yeah, you know, what's so funny about my grandmother? And I remember I was so embarrassed, like I just kept saying, Yeah, she's funny. And he goes, Show me, show me how funny she is. And I took my fingers and I put them in my mouth and I went like this, and he shoved the table at me. And he went, Hell no, no way did you just do that. And that's what his grandmother used to do to him. What and I, but it kind of freaks you out because it's not like you go, Oh, I have this gift, uh, you know, whatever, because I think we're all intuitive. I just ride the bike more than others. I mean, I don't know if you know, they're now having studies where they're proving that autistic children are telepathically, uh psychically picking up on things from other people. You have to, you I swear you gotta Google it. It's amazing. It's like scientific research. They're also in schools in Korea now, they're doing things where they're teaching children the young age to they blindfold the whole class and they tell them certain things and they all draw the same thing. So, you know, scientific or spiritual, however people want to look at it, there's something bigger going on. I mean, we believe that there's 87,000, we know there's 87,000 galaxies, and we believe there's two million. So, you know, we have our government already telling us that aliens exist. I mean, there's just a lot we don't know. So I hope they exist. I do too. And uh I I've seen some, so I believe what do you think, Matt? Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Um it's very fascinating. Very yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you know, if you put it out there, the way for me to say it, Matt, is if you're open to it, like if you say, as cray cray as this sounds, just make a deal this year. Go, I want to see some alien beings. I'm open. I'm open. I want to see something. I'll guarantee you within a year you'll see something. And you'll be like, Did I see that? And and you'll do everything you can to talk yourself pragmatically out of it. My only experiences with either ghosts or alien beings, the ones that happened by myself, I hate to say it, I almost forget. I'm like, oh well, forget that that happened while I was alone. No one's gonna believe me. But everyone that I have happened with someone, and I'm always thankful because it's always somebody like you guys. Like, no way would you ever think you're gonna see that. Yeah, but I'll remind them, I'll be like, Do you remember when we saw that? And they're like, Yeah, that was crazy.

SPEAKER_04:

Matt, if you believe your hair will come back, can it give me 20 plus year cops? I know you've seen aliens. At one point in time, one of you two have seen an alien.

SPEAKER_11:

I can tell you guys, and this is a true story. We're sitting out. Um, I used to work for uh the nuke field in the Montana. So I'll give you a little backstory. I guarded the ICBMs, the intercontinental ballistic missiles. One of the sites had a rabbit at night had set off the alarm. That happened all the time. So we go out there for the alarms to reset. It can take 10 minutes, sometimes it can take 45 minutes. It's just it's a finicky little thing. So we're sitting on a beautiful summer's night out in the mountain area of Montana, waiting for the reset for this missile site. And like two dudes working patrol would do, we park the Humvee and we just sit up on top of the hood looking up at the stars. Because in Montana, there's no light pollution, so you can see tons of stars. Well, while we're sitting there watching, um you can see satellites. So I'm pointing out, you know, you can see a satellite go across the sky, and I'm trying to tell my buddies, like, oh, that's a satellite. And he's like, What? I've never seen a satellite, so we're watching. And uh he finds one, he goes, Oh, look over there, there's one, and that that's a satellite, right? And we're watching, and it looks like two satellites and you see them going, and you know, they're moving at a consistent speed, and then all of a sudden, one gets a lot faster. And then the next thing though, the second one gets faster, but then the the first one makes this big U-turn and the other one follows behind it, and then it tries to curve again, and this one cuts it off until the point where they they end up following each other out of sight. And I'm like, Oh my god, I've never seen satellites do that. So I'm just we're describing this to people when we get back, you know. And this is yeah, yeah. And so we're we're describing this, and um, one of one of the officers that works there, he was like, satellites don't do that, that's not possible. He he's like, I don't know what you saw, but one is satellite, and so we were like kind of spooked that night. Uh, don't know what I saw, but that's my uh my thing with uh aliens or whatever you want to call it.

SPEAKER_12:

Supernatural story, yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, it's my supernatural story. And I've never seen ghosts, never seen anything like that, but that's the uh only UFO style site.

SPEAKER_12:

I seen a I seen a couple super, super bizarre things that I did I feel was very supernatural. Um, everyone knows the story how God saved me in that parking lot. The lady was sent to me. Um, but before then, I remember very, very shortly before then, I'm in the I'm I'm in our busy gas station. We have one, we have one gas station that's open all night in our city. And it's like the most, I mean, the clerk's been shot there a couple different times. It's always getting always shootings and horrible things happen at this place. So it's the only thing open at night. So I go in there and it's a it's a dark night, and nobody's in there whatsoever except for one guy. And I'm telling you, he was the scariest dude that I've ever seen in person while I was on the job. He was about, I would say, six, five, scarier than Timmy, even. This dude had to be six five, 300 pounds. He had dreadlocks uh all the way down his back, and he just looked like someone like, dude, I don't want no part, no piece, or nothing. Yeah, he actually that's what it kind of reminded me of. So I'm I kind of got like, I'm just I'm just going in there to get a power eight zero, and uh, I kind of got I'm just looking at it's like, man, that's a scary looking dude. And um, he walks by me, and I'm thinking he's gonna say something slick. Uh, because I mean at that at that gas station, pop police officers are not very popular at all. So he walks past me and he says, right in my ear, the most gentle thing that I've ever heard. He just says, make sure you stay safe, officer. And then he he he it the the the peacefulness that came from his voice was it was just surreal. Then he walked outside, and I'm like, I'm like, I was like dumbfounded for like five seconds, and and I look out, I opened the door to look out where he went, and there was nobody there. It was I'm telling you, I'm I'm telling you, that guy was not that was not a person that I saw.

SPEAKER_10:

That was an angel.

SPEAKER_12:

That's what I've I if I was a betting man, I would think that 100% that that's what it was.

SPEAKER_01:

I've never seen anybody like that since. Actually, you can Google there's supposedly like this, isn't it so in the world of mystics? Everybody has their wheelhouse. I have so much I can take in that I can't take in the whole alien thing. I'll see aliens and I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's nice. Glad I saw you get out of here because I can't deal. I've only got so much. I'm already bringing in, you know, dead people during readings, the whole bit. It's too much. There is literally uh an entire, you've got to Google it. There's probably thousands of people that have seen exactly what you've seen. They talk about this super tall being that has what they would call super long dread. Some people have said it looks like rope, but you have to Google it. You're literally seeing something that thousands of people have seen.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I just know that I've never seen anyone that intimidating looking in 22 years on this job.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's pretty wild. That's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_12:

Well, yeah, that was that one, and it's a crazy story because a couple months later is when I was going through mental health crisis at the time. This was in 2013. Yeah, and a couple months later is when when God came, he showed himself to me in a parking lot and uh saved me. So I think that I was being protected for that moment.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I do. I I'm really glad you have a good faith. I do uh I do a lot of uh prayer candles. My candles are over there. And I do I some of the most amazing experiences I've had is when people have asked me to do prayer candles for children in hospice, and actually this one child, her candle taught me so much because she was only five, and her candle was saying, which I get it now, but I didn't get it then. She was like, I'm tired of people crying, I just want to have fun. I want to have fun, I want laughter, you know, I'm dying, I want to laugh. And it never made me think like when you go see somebody who's really bad off, you guys may know this, but I never thought of it because I haven't had to deal with a lot of friends that have transitioned. All I've had to do prayer candles for a lot of people that do. And um, I would be like, you know, when my brother was dying, it's like, you know, I'm solemn, I'm serious, I love you. It's really serious. But she was telling me, like, I want clowns. And some kids are scared of clowns, but she wanted clowns, and her mom's like, oh my god, she's obsessed with clowns. But she was just really frustrated because they were being so she was like, I'm tired of my mommy crying, boom, boom, boom. So then they all they got on the the wagon and they started being fun and everything. And this is this thing with your intuition. I remember I did her candle that day and I knew she was transitioning that day. But you get afraid, you're like, I'm not gonna tell the parents she's transitioning today, or the aunt, because the aunt was the middle person that I had to deal with. And then she transitioned that day, and I had the most incredible experience with her candle the next day, because I always light the candle one more time after they've transitioned, and I was saying thank you to her and goodbye. And usually the candles are really like this, you know, they can go all over the place, but once they transition, it's usually this beam of light, and it's crazy. It's like perfectly long and thin, a little taller than most candle flames. But she was a little kid, right? So I light her candle and it does the whole Star Trek beam of light, and then she's like and the whole time I she's like chatting to me, like she's so excited, like she's so damn happy to be on the other side. And I kept and I was like, okay, okay, that's great. I'm glad you're happy. I gotta go, I gotta go. I'm trying to put the candle out. I couldn't, and I can, you know, I have pretty strong breath. I can blow pretty hard there. And I couldn't get that candle to go out for anything. Um, but right now I'm doing one for a kid who uh he was in Idaho and um a car was coming. I don't know if the car creamed off the road or whatever, and he was with his buddy and he pushed, he's 14 and he pushed the 12-year-old kid out of the way. And he he has a jaw broken in three places, fractured skull, collarbone broken, both arms broken, hip broken, um, spleen ruptured, the whole shebang. And I'm doing his candle right now. Yeah, he's gonna make it too.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, let's make some prayers for him.

SPEAKER_11:

You should well, I what would you guys want to know about tarot? I would like to get to this tarot thing. So, first, what the hell is tarot? What does it actually mean? Because I I just know it's cards with pictures on it and tells you stuff about your future or past.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I you know, I would love to tell you know the whole history that hasn't been my bag so much, but they've been around for a long time. I think it's the 1300s. Okay. There's 78 different cards. Some people like to do the you know, inversions, the reverses. I'm way into positivity. The only reason I do it is I feel that we're all intuitive. I ride the bike more than you. I'm a conduit to your guides. So I think it's your guide's greatest opportunity to say, hey, this is what's going on now. And we hope she helps you shift it. So, like some people get scared of the tower card. The tower cards are all these people are falling off of it. I love the tower card because it's your guide's way of saying, hey, guess what? You know, and we know that something no longer serves your good for the highest good of you, all in the heavens and the universe. This has to stop. If you don't stop it, we're gonna stop it for you. And if they stop it for you, it is not pretty. In the sense that I think we all have visions of like, you know, if you're stuck in a job and you won't leave your job. You have visions of like, somehow you get offered a miracle job, or somehow this company explodes, but you get a really great package. You have all these idealistic ideas in your head, but you're still staying at that job. Your guides, your angels, guardian angels, they hear you. And if they hear you hate your job after a period of time, if you don't do something about it, like go out and find a new job, they will help your job self-employed. So they will make sure that you leave that job. It just won't be under the circumstances that you want, meaning you'll probably get fired, or there's a shorter layoff, but you're getting what you wanted. That's basically the summation of it. So there's 78 different cards, there's four different areas of cards. There's cups, cups are love, uh, relationships, kindness, serving. Cups are just really, really beautiful. Friendships, community, wands are either business or productivity. So I read, um, I have people, I don't charge much. Some people charge like 450 an hour. I charge 85 bucks, which is 450? That's problems. Yeah, 450?

SPEAKER_11:

Holy shit, we're in the wrong business, Matt. You are.

SPEAKER_01:

So it's not my full-time job. This is how I serve. Um, this is how I create more positivity in the world. So I never do more than 20 readings a week. And um, I have kids that save money to come see me, so I keep my rate lower. Um, so I read for kids 18, so I think my oldest person I've ever read for was 92. Um, 20% who I read for are couples, couples with challenges in their relationships. So it's kind of like therapy. Um I read for I have clients all the way to Germany and all the way to New Zealand.

SPEAKER_11:

So you can read, you can read from distance. That doesn't make a difference. Awesome. That makes me happy.

SPEAKER_01:

So um, so the other the other cards, just so you know, is there's pentacles, and pentacles is mainly money. To me, I try to get people out of scarcity modality and I try to get them just because everything is scientifically proven to be energy, the computer, the table, us. We're all energy. So I try to get them to see money as energy, and I try, I like to look at it as a big golden ball, kind of like a golden disco ball, and I just envision raising the energy higher and higher. And then the other one, which people don't love, is swords. And swords are everything that is not your soul, they're past pains, hurts, wounds, regrets, uh, obsession, narcissism, control, jealousy, anger, hatred, wounds. So the lore of swords are some of your greatest teachers. I look at them positively because they're here to help you rise, to ascend, to become light beings or angels, and that they have all karma, bad or good is good, because it's all about you coming to self-worth, self-love, value, no judgment, unconditional love, you know, seeing the best in others, or you can also say thank you, goodbye, bless it, release it if somebody's coming from ego, which is we're a thief, or somebody's in a really horrible place, always lying. So that's the cards.

SPEAKER_11:

Okay. Well, I'm ready. I wanna uh I wanna I wanna see what what we get here. So uh do you have a question?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, first of all, do you mind if we do a prayer? Is that okay?

SPEAKER_11:

You too, you lead the show, ma'am. I'm here. I this is my first, so okay.

SPEAKER_01:

So we've got Matt and Eric and Eric. This is Timmy.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, it won't let me change his name on here because he's in the same room with me.

SPEAKER_01:

Timmy.

SPEAKER_11:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

You're the biggest you're the Tim, okay. So it's not Timmy. No, we like to call me Timmy. This is what we're you don't you don't look like a little Timmy. He's not little ball.

SPEAKER_11:

He's like six, eight, he's huge.

SPEAKER_01:

See, Matt, that's who you saw.

SPEAKER_12:

A big guy like that. Hey, Marcia, I'm I'm gonna, you know, I love you and I appreciate you. If I had bad experience with this, I'm gonna I'm gonna observe and sit this one out while you do these two. Oh, you sitting out this one? Yeah, I'm sitting this one out.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, you totally can. So if you would all just please do me a favor and shut your eyes for a moment while I do the prayers, dear God and angels. I am so honored to be here with these beautiful souls, Eric and Pim. I'm asking that the archangels please oversee this reading. I'm asking that the master guides, past, present, and future, please join us. I'm asking that your ancestors and anyone on this physical plane that has transitioned who truly wants their lives good to encircle this reading of divine love. I'm asking that they breathe through me, speak through me, and help me to intuit the messages that come forward to me and in the cards so that we can create more positivity, mentality, focus, alignment, prosperity, abundance on all levels, joy and love. I want to thank the God and angels. This is truly an honor to do this for you, Eric and Tim. And I am forever honored to be your servant. Amen.

SPEAKER_11:

Amen.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so who's first?

SPEAKER_11:

Looks like me. Tim pointed at me.

SPEAKER_01:

Eric, what's your question?

SPEAKER_11:

Um I don't really have a question.

SPEAKER_04:

I got a question for you. For you, for oh, you have a question? Okay, what is a question? Um big thing, what is gonna is uh just gonna turn out successful?

SPEAKER_11:

Oh, like the DTV stuff? Yes. Oh, okay, there we go. How what what's the future of our DTV and our mission here?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so we're gonna ask if DTV is on a successful journey, moving upward in energy for the highest good for you and for all. There's some, you know, tweaks. Something that you're up against that has to you want to sit back, you don't want to push through because they're trying to align you with what's for the highest good. And I'm sorry, I have nose to say on when they told me to stop. They just told me to stop. There's a female involved who knows your stuff and is really strong and positive in a good direction. But there are some situations that are not aligning, and there's also this fear, there's kind of like a fear of it not that that has to be let go of. A fear of like, where does the money come from? Where does the money come from? And that's somewhat of a scarcity modality. And even though that can be a truth when people are looking for money, what you want to do is think about what you're wealthy with. You're wealthy to have the show, you're wealthy to have a roof over your head, you're wealthy to have your um your health, you're wealthy to have family. You want to think more of a prosperity modality. Um, there is some situation within the context of it that they say you know is not working, that is that needs to either be aligned or totally let go of in some situation. Paring down is what they're saying, making sure that it's all aligning in the right direction. But what I love is they give you the ability to sit back and see. So this is a card of temperance, and most people see it as a card of balance. I see it as a card as sit back and things will show themselves. So, what I love about temperance is a lot of times people are trying to push things over the finish line. And what I say is don't always push it over the finish line because when you're feeling resistance, it's your guides, your angels' way of saying, This isn't the right way. Could you please give it some breathing space? Would you please look at other options? If you're getting resistance, I always say to my clients, sit back, look to the left, look to the right, look above, look below, don't push through because it's your guides, your angels saying, We have something better coming here. We have something better coming here. They also give you the ability of the Queen of Swords, which means I love the Queen of Swords. The Queen of Swords is able to cut through all the crap, can get through all the extraneous stuff to get to the heart of the matter, has the ability to cut it down to what truly matters. Why do I love this? Why do I want to do this? What makes me happy? What brings me joy with this? A lot of times I read for multimillionaires, a few billionaires. Every time that I read for them, what I realize is if they're not having fun with it, I just watch the project go down, down, down. So a lot of times it takes to sit back, regroup, and to rethink how do I bring the joy back in? How do I bring like the fun that makes me super happy with this? What do I love about this? Because the best things come from passion and love. Now they do give you this, which means that someone will come in eventually. But the thing is, is with this kind of card, you have to remember that you can have your business when you bring in other bigger corporations or whatsoever, you have to kind of toe the line, they're paying the bill. So it's remembering that when you're doing that, that it's not just the mulling going, but this is mine, this is mine. You have to remember to have a collaborative heart and a collaborative sense. And also, this type, this is a type that has a lot of ego. And with this type having a lot of ego, you want to be very, very clear. See how it's an older man and the money's all going around and everybody's ignoring him. It's remembering to do a little bit of stroking and a little bit of, you know, wow, you're really contributing a lot. Wow, you know, what do you think? Blah, blah, blah. You're our partner, yippee-io- so that's kind of the thought processes in it. But, you know, there are some things that definitely are more internal, meaning that these are your own internal fears, your own internal worries, your only because of past situations in life. Also, about um, there's some levels of trust factor that are coming in. And so you just have to, it doesn't mean what I try to say to people is you can't take past pains, hurts, wounds, regrets, etc., and make them your boundaries of today. That's the worst thing you can do. The only boundary you can have is self-love. The only boundary you can have is unconditional love that goes outward to the community and to all. But you can have boundaries of self-love or like, yeah, I'm not into that. No, that doesn't work for me. Not because somebody crapped on you before. It has to be your own values, but your values have to be built on love. Okay, does that help?

SPEAKER_11:

That does help. I like that. That's fun. Um, we're going to uh we're gonna cut it short um because we are we only got so much time and we have a whole other portion of this to get to, but um, I really do want to thank you for uh being on and uh doing this. This is super fun. Uh very interesting. I didn't know any of this, to be honest. And when uh Paulina got us lined up, I was like, I'm going into this blind of never ever ever had anything to do with tarot cards and nothing. I only remember I remember the lady on TV when we were kids. Do you want you remember that, Matt? What was her name? Tama Cleo? Cleo, yes, yeah, well, thank you.

SPEAKER_09:

I think she did.

SPEAKER_01:

I actually just so you know, I have um, I actually just had a mayor of a major city I read for last week, and I read for multiple multiple heads of police departments. Awesome. I like it.

SPEAKER_11:

Very cool. Well, it is interesting. Thank you so much for uh taking the time out to do this and um you know kind of give us a little education on your your craft. This is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, thanks.

SPEAKER_11:

Very cool. We uh we shared your website, everybody make sure you check it out. Uh, my tarot mom, make uh check that stuff out. And thank you so much for joining us, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_11:

Good to meet you, Marsha. All right, bye-bye. Nice meeting you, man. See ya. Let me there we go. Beautiful. All right, boys. Now that we got our tarot red there, that was interesting. It was a it was a fun uh fill-in. Um, last second, Pauline's like, hey, I'm talking to my my tarot card reading friend, and she'd be willing to jump on real quick. And I said, Hey, fuck it, send it. Let's go, let's see what it's like. I've never seen it before. I've never you so you've had it done before.

SPEAKER_12:

I've been around, yeah. I've had some real bad experience with that.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh, geez, oh Pete's. Yeah, I know. When you said that, I was like, what the fuck am I getting into?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like no, no, no. I I've got to put this one out. Let them get cursed.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I I've never had I've never had it done.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But like I said, my old lady, she's got tarot cards and she's never done it to me. And I like I said, I no offense to Matt and his and God and everything like that. I I'm not I'm a see it and believe it kind of guy. Always have been. And you know, it's just you grow up with that, you grow up with that from your grandfather. It's believe he's got a saying, give me a second, it's believe nothing what uh nothing what you hear, half of what you see, and only what you know.

SPEAKER_11:

Okay. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm uh and it's no offense to anybody that believes in anything.

SPEAKER_11:

All right, get the fuck out. Get out of here. Uh, I am a this is the one thought that I can't get past. One, i i I said one thought, the the thoughts that I can't get past. It's kind of a two-fold thing here. One, things work way too well together to be an accident, and something had to start everything. No matter how much you think about it, something had what okay, what created that? Okay, what created that? What created and you you gotta get to a final person. There's a final boss somewhere. Yeah, there's a there's a boss somewhere. Yeah, it's just kind of the way I look at it. Shit, we'll find out. You know, and if if the scientists are right, energy's neither created or destroyed, and that's gonna lead to something. We'll see. Shoot, for all I know, I'll reincarnation's a thing, and I'll be a kangaroo somewhere. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

The old lady jumped in chat earlier when we were talking.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, I saw that. He was like, he kept pointing.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm like, What's that dude? She jumped in.

SPEAKER_11:

I was like, what are you pointing at, dude? Uh badge 502 is in the house. He said, Ooh, looking fresh. Right? 502. If you get bored and you want to do some like actual first responder stuff, you can jump on here and see what the cops do. Uh Andy Fletcher said, Agree a thousand percent. Okay, so um, she was talking, and I didn't want to be rude and cut her off, but um, I want to thank um Harrison and Craig for the donations. I I I said thank you in the chat. I just didn't, like I said, I didn't want to be rude. She was on a roll, I didn't want to cut her off.

SPEAKER_04:

So um uh some interesting stuff though, she said.

SPEAKER_11:

That was yeah, that was that was a lot, that was heavy. As Marty McFly would say, that was heavy. Um again, I don't know. It's not really it's not really my bag personally. I just uh but like I said, I'd never seen it before, so I was like, screw it. Let's see what I've never seen it before either. I've never yeah, I I know the noise of the cards was angering people in the chat. They were like, oh my god, my surround sound is like uh so funny. He goes, You mean go hang out behind the professional building in town so you don't have to rope cars? Hey, hey, that was mean spirited. I was just joking. You were being mean for real. Grampy said, the creator for me. Fair enough, sir. Fair enough. Uh everybody in chat was was pretty respectful except for one. They were being very disrespectful, so they had to get the boot. Oh what else isn't the peanut gallery?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. Everybody's got an opinion. I have to put up enough of them with over Matt's channel.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Matt's channel. Because it wasn't mine.

SPEAKER_12:

Uh I love my people. Even if you're being disrespectful, I still love you.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah, I love you. Just I look, I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna let you talk bad to to Matt's mom while she's here. No different than I'm gonna let you talk bad about this lady who's jumping in and and you know, doing us a solid just to fill in some some space. So uh Marine's blood said, Want to support the channel financially, donate here. Yeah, she was like, it was it was Nevia or Heaven or whatever the fuck she wants to call herself. She was the one. She started getting in here. He's like, She's like, Yeah, Matt's does it for divine stuff. Your channel's just for for money. Yeah, because we're just over here just hoarding money. Actually, Tim had to crawl through the piles of cash.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah, there's at least three foot over here.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, all ones, of course, because you know, I like to make it rain. But Eric would rather sit on a Humvee for an hour with another MP than have his cards read. Hey, I will tell you, it was wonderful that night. We sat and looked at the stars together, and the weather was perfect. It was it was great. It's a touching story.

SPEAKER_04:

It was a great night. It really was held hands, yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

The warmth of the Humvee, you know, it was it was good. We had it turned off, but because yeah, holding hands.

SPEAKER_12:

And that scene in Waynesworld where they're sitting looking at the stars, same thing, same thing, and then the airplane goes overhead.

SPEAKER_11:

Same thing.

SPEAKER_12:

I wish all right, yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

Um okay, let's uh let's switch gears. Let's go to what we normally do here. Um, we're gonna go to the Instagram page first, and we're gonna just discuss. Matt, we're gonna discuss some of the the things that got conversation going. Uh, so we're gonna share the screen. We are already biggie sized. So let's look at that stash. I know it's so disgusting.

SPEAKER_12:

So that stash made the all-star game. It's wonderful.

SPEAKER_11:

Hey, I've seen some old pictures of you. All right, let's go. On today's episode of So You Think They Police Better in Other Countries.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh!

SPEAKER_11:

Oh damn! Not on my watch, son. You're watching so uh I've created a series, Matt, uh, because we kept getting comments. People were just constantly, constantly like, oh, you should American cops need to learn from other countries. I'm like, listen, there are some countries that do some really great things. But you think that you're in a police state uh when it comes to surveillance and stuff like that in the US, go to Europe. Go to some of these other countries. Like I'm telling you, there's there's good things that all police departments do all over the world. I think it's Japan, that all of their people are like black belts in judo or Japanese jujitsu. So, like, that's an awesome thing. But there's also parts of town in Japan that the yakuza run. And they just dead bodies that they they won't even respond because it's so gang ran. They don't even go over there. So I'm telling you, there is there's good and bad all over the world. So I've created a series called So You Think They Do It Better in Other Countries, you think they do policing better in other countries. Like, I want you to see some of the shit that they do in other countries. Like okay, there was it was a fight. That guy obviously had no weapon on him, and he threw a little Superman punch, it was a terrible punch, and uh he got shot in the leg for it. So wow, um, you know, I'm just gonna say that that was a desk bop without the desk.

SPEAKER_12:

So yeah, yeah, I did I do see those comments a lot about uh other countries doing it better. I mean, I've of course some may, but um yeah, not all of them.

SPEAKER_11:

No, and in the and the other thing to think of too is I I I looked up the stats, it says like 76% of the country have visited other countries, but then of the US, but then when you break that down and you say how many of them, excluding Canada and Mexico, it goes down to like 10%. Only 10% of the country has visited outside of basically North America. So if that is the case, what is your perspective on other police? How do you how do you have one other than video clips that you see? Yep, that you see, and maybe research. He finally jumped on. Hey, he was late.

SPEAKER_04:

There's a point that uh Sheriff put on here that's my uh like I said, the old lady. Oh uh like I said, she just I just wondering at myself right there. Right there, the what are you talking about? It's farther up.

SPEAKER_11:

What is it? Read the comments.

SPEAKER_04:

It says uh there's a whole no, it's the one before him. Sorry, I didn't want to interrupt you guys.

SPEAKER_11:

Are you fine, buddy? Uh talk into the microphone, it's your friend.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah, it's my friend. I keep forgetting this. He keeps going to the side of it. He's like, Can you guys check me over here?

unknown:

Where did it go?

SPEAKER_11:

Where did it go? Is that your damn dog, Matt?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's the first time I've seen card read a tarot reading after a prayer to God.

SPEAKER_09:

Oh.

SPEAKER_04:

I guess she's uh is that normal? I don't know.

SPEAKER_09:

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04:

You have no idea. First time I've ever seen it. I didn't know that I thought that was a tarot card reading, was like pagan and stuff like that. That's the reason I didn't want to take a her to take offense when I said that earlier at the end of the show.

SPEAKER_11:

Well, she seemed to be more Christian Christian tarot reading. That's what it seemed like, because she said God and angels.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I couldn't get a uh grasp on it.

SPEAKER_04:

I I didn't, and I didn't want to offend her or anything, and I don't want you still. And it's just I thought that was all pagan witchcraft, so like tarot readings. Because everybody I've seen, it's like different people do it.

SPEAKER_11:

Eye of the night, Tim. He gave you a message.

SPEAKER_04:

The mic camera. You got some uh do you got any more of the KY?

SPEAKER_11:

I we used it all when you were when you were thanking me for letting you on the show. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh shit. Hug the microphone right.

SPEAKER_11:

Julie said, kiss the mic.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know where this mic has been.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah. You don't know. Um, I've never sanitized it. So uh Eye of the Night said that's not normal at all. Um, so yeah. Tarot card reading is not Christian.

SPEAKER_12:

I I I would say the same thing, but the way she that's kind of why that's that's kind of why I sat it out. Like I it's the Bible scripture exclusively talks about that. So that and from bad. Thanks for warning me, asshole. Don't worry, I was praying. I was I was counterpraying, so don't worry.

SPEAKER_11:

Okay, you helped me out. Okay, good. Yeah, forgive him, Lord, for he knows not what he does.

SPEAKER_12:

I was like, all right, let's let's my my ex-wife used to be into that stuff, and and it was some really bizarre circumstances that bad experiences.

SPEAKER_11:

I gotcha. Now I see. Yeah, okay, fair enough. Aerial boom said, uh, you gotta swallow the mic. Um Marines cops or Marines Cop Marines Blood said cops are 100% perfect in all countries. Agree, don't agree, or somewhere in between, join the Discord and discuss.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I'm not here to make the witty comments now, I guess.

SPEAKER_11:

I know. Yeah, let's not forget the night that Tim's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04:

I keep picking up my phone when I keep picking up my phone when to do modding, but I'm like, no, I gotta stay away from it.

SPEAKER_11:

No, you're here, bro. You're not modding right now. Leave it to Marines Blood. He's got this. Uh Wade Lucero is basically describing it like it's autism. He said, Tarot uses both sides of the spectrum. The bad ones will show themselves usually with some kind of satanic symbols. Christians do a lot of things that aren't Christian. LOL. Yes, they do. Yeah, you ain't lying. Yes, they do. That's true.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I've seen a lot of audit videos where people go to churches and audit. You ever seen any of those, Matt? Where they some daughters go to churches. Great. Jeff Gray goes to churches. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've seen he goes to churches and told that sign up, veterans, you know. The yeah, God bless our veterans. God bless our veterans, and some of those people that our preachers will come out. You gotta go. You can't be here. We need you to leave this church. It's like, man, if Matt was here right now, Harrison's back, y'all.

SPEAKER_11:

Harrison, we did um end up thanking you out loud, sir. We I had explained earlier when you were gone that I couldn't, I didn't want to interrupt uh our our guest while she was speaking when you guys were dropping the uh the membership. So thank you. Now that you're back, I'm thanking you again. Thank you, sir. Um, okay, let me go to our next video, uh, which is part thirteen of our. So you think they do it better in other countries? All right. Here we go. You think cops do it better in other countries? Part 13. A lot of people didn't want to do it until the end. I want you to do it happened at the end. You think I'm gonna pause it. So you're thinking, like, okay. Like, me personally, I would take that in lieu of a ticket or going to jail. I would. If you if you ask me, like, let me beat your ass with this cane, or you get a ticket to go to jail, I'm like, you know, I I'll take the beating. But you know what? Here's the part a lot of people get to follow through. Watching DTV. You get a beat and A and go to jail? That's not fair.

SPEAKER_12:

You're gonna get in the paddy wagon. That's horrible.

SPEAKER_11:

That's fucked up. Like, I was like, all right, cool. Yeah, I'll I'll violate, yeah, I'll take a beating for whatever it is I and I don't know what these guys did. Um, when I found this video, it was all written in another language. The translation thing didn't work, so I don't know what they did.

SPEAKER_04:

I was having flashbacks. There's like 30,000 Gen Xers out there having flashbacks right now. Yeah, get that switch or yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

So I saw that and I'm like, shit, you know, like they still went to jail. That sucks. But yeah, man, that was in India, so that's uh that's a huge population.

SPEAKER_12:

What what's the countries they always they always say we should have? Is it Germany?

SPEAKER_11:

Germany's one. Um let me see. Uh English cops, the UK, like they because they don't carry guns, they think that that's um a big big deal. Those are usually the go-tos. Um, Switzerland. I I kind of agree. Switzerland is badass, but they don't have the population and they don't have the problems because they don't they don't allow any immigration, really. Nothing.

SPEAKER_12:

So that has to be never gonna say we don't need more more training. I think we should, I think the age limit should be the the minimum age should be higher, and and our our training standards should be a little bit longer, obviously.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh yeah. I I'm all for a year plus, and and I know that people hear that and they're like, You're nuts. Um, super chat. Uh try to pronounce her name. I'm not going to.

SPEAKER_04:

You guys want to hear the name?

SPEAKER_11:

Uh Shipra. Close. Shifra.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes.

SPEAKER_11:

Ah, there we go. Shifra, Westfa. Yep. What is that?

SPEAKER_04:

Uh Shifra is from the Bible. Matt, you should know this one. Shifra and Pua. Come on.

SPEAKER_11:

Winnie the Pua.

SPEAKER_12:

I don't know. You gotta you gotta that's gotta be sounds like Old Testament.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_12:

Moses' midwife. Yes. Oh, I knew that was somewhere in the Old Testament.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep, and uh it was either Shiffra or Pua, and I guess she didn't want to grow up being crap. So and Westfall, what she got the name Westfall from her father's side, uh Westphalia, um, Germany. Where did that name come from?

SPEAKER_11:

Awesome. Pretty name. Well, she donated two dollars in the super chat to us, so we appreciate that. Uh, you didn't need to he you well, you got your you just paid for all the Coke Zeros I brought you. So no, there you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_04:

Let's donate another uh 400 for this yeti eater. Yeah, yeti cooler. You ain't getting the yeti cooler.

SPEAKER_11:

I won that, sir, in a cornhole tournament. Uh thank you, Axon, and uh who was the other company? Um Fusis. So I went to the International Association Chief of Police, and I got thrown into a cornhole team because the other person wasn't there. And so I'm playing cornhole. Mind you, I've only played cornhole in a backyard drinking like twice ever. And we end up taking second place. We were we were killing it. You boy's an athlete. Backyard athlete.

SPEAKER_04:

So don't get me wrong, it's not like one of those perfect, you know. Hey, bro, it's not one of those big ones.

SPEAKER_11:

Free is free. Free is free. Yeah, that's like a$400 Yeti that I got for you.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, it's like$400.

SPEAKER_11:

I got that thing full-free. Now, the hard part was figuring out how I was gonna get it under my luggage without it costing me. So I stuffed a bunch of clothes inside of it and then threw it in my big ass bag. So uh security didn't take it. I the night said Eric had to smuggle the cooler out in his cornhole. Y'all are wrong. We knew it was coming, that was too obvious. I know, right? Y'all pick on me. That's fucked up. Pick on Matt. Look at all his tattoos. You know he's a gangbanger.

SPEAKER_04:

Pick on Matt when I get up to Chicago.

SPEAKER_11:

Hell yeah. Wade Lucero said it reminded me of the cops having night sticks that they used to poke you in the kidney and go up and go up against the wall and spread them and kick that rips your your crotch tendons. Damn. Matt, was that what you did up in Chicago?

SPEAKER_12:

No, we didn't do nothing like that.

SPEAKER_11:

No, that wasn't your style.

SPEAKER_12:

I used to hear the old timers brag about doing stuff like that, and they made me sick.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh yeah. Twitchy skitch in the house. Became a level one member. What's up, brother? Appreciate you. Hell yeah. Um Craig said, I thought you were in the Air Force. Shouldn't you should be a cornhole master? Uh excuse me, sir. That's the Navy.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's that's the Navy.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. A hundred a hundred men go into a submarine uh and then fifty couples come back up when they did they ever uh segreg did they ever get rid of the where females can't be on

SPEAKER_04:

subs anymore? I think females can be on subs now.

SPEAKER_11:

I don't know. I never heard that. I I again I don't I don't know shit about the Navy, but with the dip the the new Department of War, I I don't know that they'll let that keep going. They're changing all sorts of stuff. Uh twitchy sketch. Dang it, I lost my donut. Unacceptable. Uh-oh. Hey man, Harrison just dropped a bunch of memberships. You didn't win one man. So did Craig Holcomb.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh swear we gotta figure out why Maurigala doesn't get one.

SPEAKER_11:

I I don't want to figure it out. I kind of like that he never gets one. That makes me happy. Everybody's got a drink because of it. All right let me share one last one last Instagram. This is a this is a good one.

SPEAKER_13:

Wings come talking about me cool thing about police work is not everything has to be important.

SPEAKER_11:

All right. It's short, sweet, but gets to the point. And uh the reason I really like to share that is because Matt, you're you're probably like me. We we read people for a living. Read in that man's voice. Some I think everybody can. I'm not gonna sit here and act like I got some sort of power but uh just hearing the strain in that man's voice he he was going through his own mental crisis with that 11 year old on that bridge thinking that she's about to jump. He was scared you could tell yeah yeah for sure and um I think that that is a side of law enforcement that we don't one we don't celebrate enough just the fact that that that officer they there was no enforcement on that. That guy was over there to help. You could hear it in his voice he's over there to help and um the the mental toll even though everything turned out good on that call the mental toll stuff like that takes because forever I I know Matt you've got young girls like I knowing that I like I would I've got a 13 year old and when I watched that video as soon as she got home from school I was like hugs like it took an emotional toll on me and I wasn't even there. But I know what that officer was going through.

SPEAKER_12:

Have you had to do any of those Matt not for anyone quite that young but yeah for for maybe let me see I can think of a couple that were definitely teenagers.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah it was I've had unfortunately I got there too late on some some 13 year olds uh had um hanging is usually that's that's seems to be a common thing um but I want officers to know that they're not alone that stuff does take a huge toll on you and it is okay to be not okay with that stuff like if it's bugging you man like talk about it there's there's there's cops military first responders every single day taking their lives and I know it's taboo to talk about but I don't want it to be taboo. I think we should be able to sit here and talk about it. Does police work have a lot of improvement that it can do for itself? Yeah. But I think if we start addressing training and Matt, you and I talked about that a little bit earlier but mental health we see so much you cannot sit there and tell me that cops don't have mental I know I've got I've got some mental issues from this job. Matt, I know this job's affected you after all this time you know and it's awesome that you're ending on a high note in a school like yeah that's that's actually been such a a big help.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah I was struggling I mean you you you never really stop struggling.

SPEAKER_11:

No you're right you don't but it's having the ability to talk about it and acknowledge it and show that it's out there and not make it a taboo thing I think that's huge. I think departments if departments listening want to improve give officers a um a third party option that has nothing to do with the department I think that's the best option. Something that can stay anonymous that's the best way. If we want to fix a lot of the problem because okay I I go back to this all the time Matt but the Sonia massey case the boiling water the guy had some mental issues going on. Yeah 100% you know what I mean what he was saying he was he was a jerk from the from the jump on that call yeah and so for me I'm like sitting there I'm like damn like could we have helped prevent that if we would have recognized the signs early and and got that dude some help like I don't root for anybody's downfall if that guy was was truly going through something because of what the job done with I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

Sorry what are you laughing about Patrick says oh you laughed about worse fucking time I saw that well I'm looking down there I see you got private chat going right here and it's blinking at me and I'm just going is she got to answer that chat or what she definitely got mental issues.

SPEAKER_11:

That's great.

SPEAKER_12:

Thank you guys I'm taking my my stream and going home oh shit yeah um yeah the mental stuff I remember having to I used to recuse myself after Tyree left me I I I couldn't do suicides anymore I I I I couldn't investigate them I just I I'd ask my partner and they looked out for me.

SPEAKER_11:

They they did all the follow-ups on those yep um grampy ones giving a shout out to your to your nonprofit brother and I'm always going to share that my father's business uh is Matt's nonprofit yep absolutely I want to let what was it I wouldn't let him know that uh those mental issues of Eric's are over there beside his cash yeah yeah there's my pile of cash yeah tripped over four of them on the way oh my god that's so funny um okay let's uh let's go to what we normally do our body cam reviews stuff so I am going to see what we got um we always tend to use police activity just because it's fast easy and there's no um issues with like you know news emblems and and copyright stuff and all that stuff this is pure just straight raw body cam that's this is one of the main reasons we use their stuff so I get a lot of people why don't you use something different the reason we don't is because we don't want to get taken off YouTube. We got to be careful of what we do. So even though this is public record and all that stuff I still give credit to police activity even though I know they don't own this video these videos. So um that's part of the reason why so all right police activity they've got uh 6.8 million subscribers they could probably use a few more make sure you jump jump over and join those I wonder if they know that you use their stuff I I don't know I've I have reached out to sign up um but uh all right we got this one up here I'm already reading that it says Salt Lake City I didn't mean to do that uh you guys know the thing I and Tim can back me up Tim when I pulled these videos up did I watch them I just went and pulled them up and we didn't look he literally just pulls it up and then when the video right there he I mean I can I can't read it because I'm blind as I'll get out but the disclaimer you can't even read it. Yep so I I don't watch these I the you are getting raw reactions from from all of us uh so and if somebody has watched it then we will recuse ourselves from it so um but let's uh this oh shit this one's 10 minutes I'm gonna I'm not gonna go to this one right now let's go to this one this one should be shorter share this tab instead uh how long is this one three minutes yeah way better we're not doing 10 minutes okay now let's biggie size and please find what's address of your emergency there must be over 150 kids screaming and uh cars piled up all over the uh intersection here and the culture sac and there's I never thought something because there's flights going on and stuff there's cars parked for a half a mile on both sides of the road you can't cross we slow down to get through because kids are crossing for trick or treaty and there's a kid out there with a handgun.

SPEAKER_08:

It looks like a looks like it's part of his costume or it's like a real gun?

SPEAKER_07:

No it's a real gun man.

SPEAKER_11:

There's like probably about 70 kids maybe a hundred kids and they're odd seems crazy they're they're driving in their cars like maniac so I I'll pause there and say like it's always a good sign that it's a legit call when you get multiple calls from multiple people so on this if I'm seeing me sitting in the patrol car and Matt you tell me how you were but you're when you get a call in you always look at it and you're like skeptical because 70% of the time and this is just my own estimated statistic 70% of the time the golf call details are bullshit they're not they're not even close. But when you get multiple two or more now you're now we're getting into the like 95% that this is legit.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah that's how usually how dispatch will lead off where I'm from say we we receive multiple calls.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah that just tells you that okay let's get there yeah so you know I like that we already got air one involved oh they know are they all running unless somebody's shot they messed up his yard Tim's worried about his yard flying they're all bugging who do you pick yeah how do you pick what are y'all doing in this neighborhood pretty sexy who do you know in this neighborhood who's your friend all right you keep your hands on your chest you with your right hand turn the car off your hands back in your chest all right are there any weapons in the vehicle okay all right go ahead and you driver only remove your seatbelt you're gonna step out very clear instructions by the officer I am proud of him for that you only driver that's huge that's he's got a good tone to him too yeah yeah he's not yelling and screaming he's talking low it's a it's a very good strategy one thing that I like to do Matt and tell me if you use this strategy if somebody starts yelling at me or elevating their voice I will actually start to talk quieter. Yeah because then they have to quiet themselves down if they want to hear what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04:

So never never I never uh match their energy never no no uh uh I'm not a yeller I can't that's not Tim you don't seem like a yelling type of guy either depends on who it's with as big as he is he don't need to yeah as big ironically I'm not uh I'm not a bad person when it comes to when dealing with people I'll confront somebody but I talk to them like uh Karen's at stores you know how people like mind their own business yeah yeah yeah I'll go straight up to them tell them to shut their mouth and I don't I'm just literally quiet and then you just now I understand why you keep getting banned from TikTok.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah three times that's Matt my first account what I had five six thousand followers yeah and then we left boom oh shit oh sorry uh I just laugh because Tim it'd be messaging me he's like I got a new TikTok account I'm like already damn it happens oh shit too funny all right let's keep going on you know it's in there somewhere because I promise you I've asked the question to people that don't have a weapon in the car and they're emphatic no there's no fucking way like you know they're these guys aren't saying shit they're being really quiet that's a telltale signal I'm gonna guess that's an I'm gonna guess he's gonna land him resisting it cannot go anywhere you could have prevented all this by not running I wasn't running you were you're running you were running you took two steps and went down Matt was he running uh a little bit a little bit listen my guy you had eight cops around you and you thought you like okay if you got some mad hops maybe but the helicopters in the area and I don't know if you guys noticed but that one officer looked like he was on every piece of Mexican juice that you could find he's on Matt's supplements over there covering up my belly over here he looked like he was on all the TRT in the I'm not we can put it on I just want to try it in his book yeah he didn't move broader no but this is the most coincidental shit it's not coincidence man we're here for this shit for some oh look what he's wearing yeah that's his costume that's his costume oh my god I think that's what he meant by this is the most coincidental shit that is hilarious what I didn't even mean to pause it like that that is hilarious that dude and and again this wasn't like the cops just were like let's go fuck with these kids it got multiple multiple calls and there was concern from the public um and they told them oh this is a real gun like you have legit witnesses out there and then as soon as air one shows up they all start scattering flying through the neighborhood so you got a legal reason to be there and it looks like it was a good thing they did because who knows what would have happened after that.

SPEAKER_04:

Scooting over so I keep scooting over because I lean trying to stay out of your camera. He's he's so concerned about seeing his shoulder over here I don't care it's fine you Matt he really holds us up on this weird pedestal he doesn't understand that we're we're nobody oh shit too funny uh it's his old oranges from the last incarceration orange is the new black um that's the name of the show anyway I want to see if he's got anything nope that's it gotta change his clothes when he gets in there I know it's awesome he could go straight into a cell it's done the first thing I'd start telling everybody is like I escaped I was escaped I wore that one night of my life that was it that was enough for me that's so crazy that's so crazy you still got hired as a copy man I told you I'd rock that orange jumpsuit it was orange too don't ask how I know it's orange okay let's go to this next one here um share screen share all right why you got my brother's house up there got that that's an airstream baby those aren't cheap it looks like an airstream right that's an airstream yeah those are fucking way they're probably more than my house that's an expensive one if it's in good shape yeah those are nuts triple axle oh yeah all right let's go out with your hands you understand oh canine ready to go rock is not gonna kill you don't need you to come out so you don't get hurt you understand all right I'm not the most tactical guy in the world but if you have a shield why are you not the guy in front did you see him he's behind the guy with the flashlight like this look right there's all one hand no don't stop here you guys can how nuts do the canines drive you when they make an Oh I know now some people I know are against canines I I am I like don't get me wrong I don't want my dogs getting hurt but I am a fan of using canines when we know for a fact that they're not armed and there's some people that are the opposite like no dogs are a tool and they that's when they're used so a human doesn't get hurt and I'm just like ah we just celebrated in our town uh last week one of our officers in my town him and his dog 11 years both the dog and him lost their life oh shit in the house uh they sent the dog in the guy shot the dog and when the guy came after him to follow in he got hit dang both of them were taken out one night 11 years ago last weekend yeah that's horrible somebody said that sound that sound oh yeah someone's about to regret life choices yeah you're not wrong uh eye of the night said that that trailer is a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars god damn yeah you guys are sitting there talking about the dog I'm going I hope they don't shoot up the airstream it's like a plane all right let's keep going down leave a rifle on this rock come out now with your hands up dude sound like uh no he tried to run you going nowhere I'll follow me on coach challenging one hold on hold on slow they okay I thought it was a taser no the dog got him no yeah so the dog got him the canine officer told them all to stay back because they didn't want them to accidentally get bit too um there's there's officers they get a little too anxious and they get in there too quick and the dog ends up latching onto you uh I actually seen that happen in Houston we went down for the disaster relief after the hurricane and we were catching looters and stuff left and right and uh they had Houston had released the canine and uh one of their officers got tried to get in there too quick and the canine like let go and latched onto the officer and just went to town it was gnarly near that dog when he's buying somebody nope I don't go buy him either and we're just sitting back like I'm not gonna lie I laughed I was like yeah calm down officer yeah rookie relax let the dog do what it's supposed to do exactly yeah I let the handler handle shit that's what he's getting paid to do boys don't be on the dog I don't think we need to keep watching I think the uh the important thing to know is you had the option to come out peacefully like it wasn't like we rushed into this decision this wasn't like uh shit just happened and then we just released the dog out of nowhere like you made some bad choices then you made a really bad choice by deciding to try to run at the end yeah for the most part from your experience um sorry does have the dogs cause a lot of damage no not typically you get a couple puncture wounds yeah because I see these big outcries like the dogs are are down I I've from my experience you maybe scratches and some puncture wounds through the clothes uh but they're they're not maiming people I'm not you can find some horrible cases yeah yeah I think um I I I've I have never personally seen a dog latch onto the wrong area I've never seen a dog bite a crotch a neck or a face I know it's happened I've seen videos online of it happening but I don't think that that's a common thing um I think they're trained to yeah they they go for trained to go for certain spots yeah arms and legs typically I I've seen a lot of ass bites I will say that yeah a lot they got a chain on your ankles and ankles and wrists yeah yeah forearms yeah typically um yeah we've got a ton no I'm talking about Matt I know they got them where you're at yeah they got dogs where you're at Matt yeah we got a couple gotcha um shoot you being at the school you should have one of those uh those uh what do they call them wellness dogs comfort dogs comfort dogs yeah that'd be awesome I'm not uh my allergies too bad I'm not a big dog guy you put a dog they put one of those comfort dogs in the school they're gonna make Matt a social worker take some along you'll be fine I'm already one oh shit uh Harrison Brock said is that called friendly fire when the dog attacks again yeah it really is oh and then back dummy what's funny is you still have to praise the dog the canine handler if he's a good handler and I I witnessed this after the dog had bit the cop and he pulled the dog off he's he had to praise the dog because he released the dog to do a bite and the dog did a bite and it actually bit the bad guy first but by the time he was able to get the dog you know off of the cop because the cop rushed in too quick he had to praise the dog and that was the best part about the whole thing is like not only did your dumbass get bit because you're dumb uh the canine handler also praised the dog right in front of you for biting your ass that's the dog just wants his treat that's all he wants yeah this shit was funny um camp pin devil pup said mostly forearms legs best thing to latch on to with those teeth yep did you get that one earlier you said uh dog wasn't what was it the dog wasn't biting him he was enforcing yeah yeah he ain't biting he's enforcing I like it that was an enforcement technique yeah uh get Matt a hairless dog so they can match vibes yeah yeah there we go no allergies too gonna call him little el chingone you got a spin you got a sphinx cat at your house uh Matt what's that you know sphinx cats yeah those hairless cats like hairless sphinx that I can deal with no allergies this little guy I got here you guys would match very short hair um I heard that those uh those uh what do they call them those those laboratory dogs not labs but like the science experiments ones like all the labradoodles and all the doodles whatever they call them I heard those are all like they have like hair not like uh pet hair so they're like hypoallogenic or whatever they call it yeah my friend's got one of those yeah that's not a real dog that's hair's very soft and weird not that's not a real dog sorry it's like a stuffed animal Tim doesn't have a real dog either yeah I do don't tell hey the old ladies listen to this man she's gonna have my ass when I go maybe the dog just wanted pork I have a dog no I got what I've got is a little mix you've seen the black dog that I've had on the camera it's a Sitsu and Pug mixu and it weighs 20 pounds and it's this big and then I've got a nine pound what a peeking's and she's not a dog she's a human straight up she eats off forks everything I don't even know how to say what eye of the night just said I'll get you a Zolo It's I gotta bring up my phone so I can read this because like your screen in case anybody's wondering why I'm facing like this is because his screen is over this way and I can't read half the stuff on here I've gonna go into what oh shit this is this is what he's talking about I'm gonna share the screen this is what you need to get Matt people's dog look they got a Mohawk there we go I thought you were Jewish look at that little beast how big that is oh man they look mean I know they're a little killer right looks Egyptian yeah it does it looks like the the the Sphinx cat but like as a dog yeah this one looks like Yokiro Takubel went to Egypt and got himself a dog and brought it back oh man nobody that's like 35 or younger knows that Yokiro Taco Bell joke you know that dog was female yes all those nipples do you have pictures of dogs you want to share join the discord nice all right let's get to another video here yeah we don't have a dog folder a pet folder do we or a pet chat do we we don't we don't have a channel for pets okay rain blood let's see here oh that's the wrong one share screen there we go biggie size all right this one is short so be ready coming to the ceiling oh no that's the best time they did they they they relaxed they just got the arms okay I thought they were going to go hand on for a second in there oh yeah for sure they what they do that guy was hiding up in the attic and they smoked it they threw probably 40 frickin' tear gas grenades up in there and just baked him out of there top quality construction he went through the roof and yeah he he he probably trying to flee fell through the roof yeah I've seen that before I've seen that before yeah this is not an uncommon thing y'all yeah I want to give a shout out to Forest Fires who said in the super chat dropped five dollars says I feel like I've learned a lot from watching I got the written and physical tests for Indiana troopers in January thanks for keeping this going hey man appreciate it thank you very much oh you can be Indiana trooper hell yeah oh lord I love it that's where I'm from Indiana oh man somebody's got to go out there and go do the super trooper stuff you know so I was thinking pictures but I can make one real quick marine blood uh I hate the face mask we shouldn't know who we're paying to protect us those aren't face masks brother no those were gas masks that's a gas mask sir that's not to cover their face from you seeing who they are this is a SWAT team but I do agree with I hate face masks too but uh that that wasn't that case yeah I I'm with you I don't like face masks either but uh in this in this case they are actually that was a gas mask to protect them from the uh the tear gas that they've dropped in there we we had those underneath the desk at the farm and uh we anytime they had to throw tear gas into the bunks that was our first thing put on our mask yeah yeah they they wanted uh us to put our mask on which it was in the cage right put your mask on they let us know over the radio and we're like shit all right let's tie this end i can't see this end in any other way the part they won't tell you is the cops are not paying for that damage no no all the tear gas

SPEAKER_11:

The stuff they throw in there, that is one thing they're not paying for.

SPEAKER_04:

Now, one thing I disagree on is when cops get the wrong house. Oh, yeah, they should be paying. When they get the wrong house or the wrong apartment or something like that and they damage it, I think they should pay for it. Yeah. And honestly, you they'll say, nope, we're not responsible. I've seen it happen.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. I've seen that happen. Not not where I'm at, but I have seen those those news articles and stuff where they, yeah, they that's bullshit. Like, if you screw up, it's on you. Like, you know, do your homework. You're supposed to do that stuff better. So all right. Uh let's uh this one. Oh, this one is short as well. Two minutes, less than two minutes. We're on a roll, Matt. We are knocking it out tonight. Um let's see here. Share screen. Oh, that's the wrong one. There we go. Okay. Let's uh biggie size and play. Now, I'm not gonna go out and I'm not gonna second guess necessarily, but I would like to think that if I got a shield that I could do a pretty decent job at keeping that wrong one? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Hello, there we go. Sorry about that. I got the red one, man.

SPEAKER_11:

The second red one. But uh I would like to think that I could use that shield to do more of a deflection technique, trap, maybe to pin the guy so I don't have to shoot him, but I don't know. I've never been in that situation. I don't know how heavy those shields are. I know their shields are heavy, but I don't know how I don't know how much you can manipulate it around.

SPEAKER_04:

I've seen one of those shields. They make them out of Lexan. Same stuff they put on NASCARs.

SPEAKER_11:

Uh well, I tell you the one that they're bulletproof. Yeah, the one I had in the back of my car as a supervisor, just in case there was like some sort of barricaded person scenario.

SPEAKER_04:

There's a heavy share they got they got them on NASCARs and they're they're literally bulletproof. They're what quarter inch thick, if not more.

SPEAKER_11:

They're thicker than the ones that we had were thicker than that. They they were heavy. But yeah. So I I don't know. I I I'm again, I don't want to judge him for shooting. That guy obviously had made up his mind, charging out at a bunch of armed cops with a knife, but I would have uh I would have gone for more of a pin. Try to try to get him to the ground with that shield, a couple shields, because they had two of them out there. But it didn't happen that way.

SPEAKER_04:

And thank you, Marine Blood. I see uh he says, now there's a pet pic shared in Discord.

SPEAKER_11:

We got a pet pet picks channel. I like it. Nice. Oh shit. Okay. All right. I've this is the the last video that I've got loaded up, y'all.

SPEAKER_04:

Where's Alan been all night? Is he still there?

SPEAKER_11:

He's behind the scenes. He's got some shit going on tonight, so he wasn't able to fully fully do this.

SPEAKER_04:

And if he wants to come in, he's got the ability to do it, don't he?

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah, he can jump in and out when he wants. Okay. All right, let's uh biggie size this guy.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, yeah. Shots fired, shots fire.

SPEAKER_11:

Okay, I can tell you if I start hearing shots fired going down the hallway that I am in, I am unassing and getting into something. I'm getting into one of these rooms, I'm getting into this elevator, I'm getting out of that fatal funnel. Because that is a death trap. Yep. That is a nightmare. And and now I want you guys to think about this, Matt. You I know you're already thinking about it, is like, where's my shooting lane? If I'm not, because the shots sounded like they came where my mouse is, sound like they came down here. If I'm not this dude in the white shirt, who else is fired? Nobody can shoot back. None of these three can fire. Unless he goes prone and they shoot over him. Right. That I mean, right now we are in a shit position.

SPEAKER_06:

No, of course. But we have to stop fire, stop fire.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh, this is even worse. He just moved himself with looks like into a crossfire. Yeah, is he unless it came from the uh uh Yeah, it's it it looks like it came from something in between here. Now he should have ran back with these dudes. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04:

Unless it's coming out of that door, yeah. And I don't think he wants to cross that door, that crossroads.

SPEAKER_11:

Now we're fucked. Everybody should have their gun out. I like I like my man's approach right here. This is what I'd be doing. I don't like homeboy here. He is not in a good spot. Not in a good spot. White shirt guy, is that a cop or is that a security guard? They call no, he's a cop. He's probably a supervisor, I bet. Uh yeah, it's New York. They have what they call white shirts out there. I think Chicago has that as well. Tends to be supervisors.

SPEAKER_13:

1015 on the road. Put it over.

SPEAKER_11:

Nobody has everybody has handheld mics. Bro, man. 2025. How are you not having an earpiece and a lapel mic? How? Look how big the departments are, man. New York's the biggest. Yeah, get those on Amazon. They got like 38,000 cops. Well, not after the last election, they just had they're about to have a whole lot of less. Yep. Everybody's jumping ship out of New York. Look at this elevator.

SPEAKER_12:

Like it's nothing.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, like I'm curious like when he came out, I didn't see anything in his hands. I I could be wrong on that, but watching it in real time, I didn't I didn't see anything, did you? So the reason people are gonna be like, why is she like running? She's not, those doors lock. Yeah, especially. Yes, if you need more people, you gotta let them in. It's it's a pain in the ass.

SPEAKER_14:

Oh I wanted another backstory.

SPEAKER_11:

I'm reading that one. That was that was that was insane. Okay, so Bronx, New York, uh 1016 at night, Sergeant Nicholas Novak. Um da da da da da da da da da da attempted to apprehend 18-year-old Antonio Morales who was wanted for a gunpoint robbery. Sergeant Novak knocked on the door, Morales' apartment, made verbal contact with him. However, Morales claimed to be someone else and refused to open the door. Sergeant Novak secured the door with handcuffs and continued to speak to Morales through the door. That's very weird. Why would you handcuff the door? Shortly thereafter, Morales discharged at least five rounds from his firearm inside the apartment. Morales then forced the apartment door open and charged into the hallway in an attempt to flee the location. When he fled, a struggle between Sergeant Novak and Morales ensued during the time Morales shoved Sergeant Novak to the ground, causing him serious injury to his head. Following the struggle, Morales continued to flee and encountered Officer Santiago at the end of the hallway. Officer Santiago then discharged two rounds from her service, striking Morales. He was taken to the hospital, vealed an ambulance, he was treated for his injuries. Morales' firearm was recovered at the scene of the incident during the investigation for his actions, and Morales was arrested and charged with criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree, assault in the second degree on a police officer, and reckless endangerment in the first degree related charges.

SPEAKER_12:

So he did have the gun on him.

SPEAKER_11:

Even if he didn't, in her position, in her position where she comes around the corner, she already knows a gun was shot, and this dude's right there that she knows is a suspect. I understand why she fired.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

That that was all a lot.

SPEAKER_12:

Real funny second decision.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, but he got past the elevator dorman. Yeah, he did. Yes, he did. The guy holding the elevator up. He ran part past him.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. Poor Bruce. Bruce just texted me again. He goes, Man, I am still at the hospital. He's like, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

And we we can't wait to meet him.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

We got Marine Blood up there that put a link up to Think Up.

SPEAKER_11:

Uh yeah, Marine Blood said, Do you want your PD to have their own Eric to help train them? Donate as we help raise funds for research for cloning him. Oh shit. Um, what I'm gonna try to do is I want to do an impromptu again. Um, I'm trying to get my buddy George. Now that Tim, because guys, Tim is was an experiment to get somebody else in studio on at the same time. I've never done this before. So this was kind of a learning thing. So I'm really glad that this worked out. Because next thing I want to do, Matt, and if you're willing, brother, I would love for you to be on this um just to so you can see the class. I'm gonna have my buddy teach the ego class that we're teaching recruits. It's awesome. It like it gets all scientific and nerdy and talks about what ego is, how you what part of your brain you're thinking of when you're thinking logically and reasonably versus when you're thinking um emotionally. Uh-huh. And that's what we end up seeing a lot of times when cops screw up um and the ego takes over because they don't they're no longer thinking with the front part of their brain. Like it is it's so in-depth. Um it's not a super long class by any means, um, but it it really helps you understand how to recognize when you're no longer thinking logically and reasonably with that frontal lobe and and switch into that emotional state. And if you can recognize it, then you're gonna be more prone to stepping back from yourself and saying, Oh, oh, okay, I'm getting I'm getting compromised, and I need to switch back into the my logic and reasoning. Um so it I think it'll help cops, especially young cops, because they're more susceptible to it. Um and so I I th I wanna I wanna have the class on here. We can bullshit talk back and forth while it's going on. But now guys like Tim or anybody else that's out there and it's like your department's fucked up, here's a video, and then they just link it. Uh and they'll link our video, and it can be a training video for departments across the nation whenever we see because you and I are just one person. We we can we can only see so many videos on our own, and God knows how many videos you get sent to you. Uh, because I know I get a shit ton sent to me. Hundreds. Yeah, and and I can't.

SPEAKER_04:

I send them both you guys see them.

SPEAKER_11:

And and I can't keep up with them all. So uh it would be cool to have uh that training video so our people that follow us can be like, all right, uh this cop's got an ego problem, they should check this video out. Boop. And they'll see you and me learning from the class and watching it, and they'll they'll have they I hope they copy it and take it to their academy. If they're willing to be, you know, to have some self-reflection and say maybe it's a problem. I I think it'd be a good way to give back for free.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, I think it'd be great.

SPEAKER_12:

But uh save some PDs a lot of money too.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I was the first one, the first civilian to come onto your podcast. Or well on a live stream. Yeah, and now I'm the first what the first one to come in studio. First in person. I mean in person. I don't know what you've had that civilian. I don't know if you've ever had cops in here before.

SPEAKER_11:

I've never had anybody do what we're doing right now.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay. Uh I'm the guinea pig on all groundbreaker, Timmy. Next time, huh? You I'm gonna break you in. That's what happens.

SPEAKER_11:

If I'm walking funny tomorrow, guys, you know, Timmy got a hold of me.

SPEAKER_04:

Matt's only three and a half hours for me.

SPEAKER_11:

So I'll tell you this though. Matt is uh he's pocket size for you. Well, I don't know how big Matt is, but he's he is uh Matt is uh what I like to call vertically challenged. He's uh he's he's very wide because he works out. He he had to make up for the height God didn't give him.

SPEAKER_04:

See if we had enough room in the with the camera, you could compare me and you how tall we are to each other.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh Jesus, yeah. We would have to readjust everything.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, this is literally he was I don't know.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, I'm 5'11.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh he was good. You were you had to look up.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah. I'm 5'11. Matt, what are you five seven?

SPEAKER_12:

Five's seven on a good day. Yeah, Jesus.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. You're the same height as my dad.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. Dad? Say you. I'm the shortest one in my family by far, and I and I'm pissed off about it.

SPEAKER_04:

Like I said, I want to try to make arrangements, Matt, with you uh before, hopefully before the big snow hits. Because you know, if you get it, I got it. I know it because where I live at. And uh so I want to let everybody know.

SPEAKER_11:

He got his he got his ghost patch.

SPEAKER_04:

Got a ghost patch patch. Yep. And he got uh see which one's this one.

SPEAKER_11:

Don't read that one. Don't read that one. I ain't gonna read that one. That's a special one.

SPEAKER_04:

I gotta read that one. A donut TV coin.

SPEAKER_11:

Yep, we got one of our donut TV D TV coins for coming on out. Um, but no, uh, I'm hoping, Matt, more regularly, I can get my old man in here now. Oh and you know, get the get that old school mentality, a retired cop and uh now that we've got this setup working.

SPEAKER_04:

So I I kind of like it. It was pretty cool. I mean it worked out. I can't wait till you get the chairs set up with the chairs.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, yeah. So the in-studio stuff, when I do my in-studio podcast, I'm getting rid of the table scene, and I'm gonna go to just an open chair concept where you got a couple, you know, nice loungers and kind of faced in towards each other. Yeah. It'll get it, it just it'll create more room, or at least the appearance of more room in this space, because the way the table is and the way this computer desk is, it kind of cuts the whole room in half. So Tim can tell you, he's here.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I mean next to the money and the ego and the stripper pole. Yeah. He's gotta make that dough.

SPEAKER_11:

Read it. Read what? What am I supposed to read? I just saw that. Read it! Julie, what am I supposed to read?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we I can't read. Well, did it get caught? Hold on.

SPEAKER_11:

I don't know what I'm supposed to read. Um, I maybe this one. Every time you get a cop that shits on you in your comments, you should reply with them the link to the ego video. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Ego class. You're the best cop. You can do no wrong. Oh shit, that's funny.

SPEAKER_12:

I meant to thank you. I got uh tactical tequila. Oh, you're gonna go on his podcast? Yeah, he could he called me the other day or he messaged me the other day, so I'm gonna go on in a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_11:

He's awesome. He asked a lot of great questions. Uh he sent me a list of questions. Like, man, this guy doesn't know. Yeah, like he's he's like super like into it, man.

SPEAKER_12:

Like, yeah, you know, he sent me all stuff regarding, so I can tell he's researched me big time.

SPEAKER_11:

So yeah, and when he so he asked me, he's like, Are these questions okay with you? I goes, I didn't read them, they're fine. He's like, That's what I like about you, man. You'll answer anything. I was like, Yeah, man, if I can answer it, I'll answer it. If I can't, I'll tell you I can't. Like, yeah, I mean, you know, I was like, the only thing that's really off limits is I can't tell you where I work. You can figure it out. I can't stop you from telling people. Yep.

SPEAKER_12:

I listened to your whole video, your whole interview with him. That was really good. Oh good stuff.

SPEAKER_11:

You made it first through the first two minutes?

SPEAKER_12:

Made it through the whole thing.

SPEAKER_11:

Dang, that was good stuff. I want people to make sure that I I did do one of my latest podcasts uh with a chief. Um, I'm not gonna say where, but it's very familiar to me. And really cool. Uh, and uh his name's Eddie Garcia. It was a great freaking interview, and I don't mean great because I did awesome. I mean it was just fun. I had a lot of fun talking to him. Um, he was really was a good dude. And uh I was really excited to do that.

SPEAKER_04:

So um they got questions all for me. Oh, do they? Yeah, I got Marine Blood, can't believe that I'm here. Wants me to do burnouts in your living room. And is he in studio with you? No, it's a magic trick.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. Take a selfie. Look, we're we're butted up. Look how big he is.

SPEAKER_10:

He makes me look so little.

SPEAKER_11:

Fuck. I'm a grown man, I promise.

SPEAKER_10:

Fuck.

SPEAKER_11:

I am a grown man. Makes me not look like a man.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm not that tiny.

SPEAKER_11:

I feel like I need to sit on Santa's lap.

SPEAKER_04:

I just can't wait till I mean banning.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, banning will give you a run for your money. Banning's a imposing.

SPEAKER_04:

So what would you say? Me bigger, banning or no, banning's bigger.

SPEAKER_11:

He's bigger than I'm thinking, maybe the same height, if not a little taller.

SPEAKER_12:

He's bigger.

SPEAKER_11:

But yeah, he's wider. He's wider. Yeah, he's wider.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

And Banning's got that remnant of the power lifting.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah. Yeah, Matt's right. He got that whole power lifting. Like he's just he looks like he tackles cattle. That's just yeah. Let's be fair. That's what he does. Um, oh, she's Julie's wanting the thing that I told Tim not to read. I can't, because then it'd be violating some uh some work-related stuff. I gave him a work-related coin, so he can't read that.

SPEAKER_04:

That's all that's what she does. Oh, yeah, I wasn't gonna say that's what I forgot.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, it's just work-related. So that's all. Can't be doing that on here, y'all.

SPEAKER_04:

Hold on before anything gets pushed across. Uh I got texture or something real quick.

SPEAKER_11:

Lofton said, Oh, a little Eric. Damn it. Took away my manhood right there. Um, your workplace is public info for anyone with half a brain. Yeah, absolutely. It is not hard to figure out where I'm at. It's just I cannot talk about it on here. That's the thing. It's just uh it's a general order. It is uh, I'm not getting fired. I need uh a steady uh paycheck from my work, and it's what gives this show the credibility it has, guys.

SPEAKER_04:

I wonder. Because uh, y'all she said it. No, Tim is not from Eric's towns. That's all she said, because I told her not to say. Ah uh she's from Texas originally. That's where I met her when she that's where I met her. She lived in Dallas.

SPEAKER_11:

Talk into the mic. Oh, I'm okay.

SPEAKER_04:

You keep doing this. Sorry. I'm not talking to you anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she she lived in uh Texas.

SPEAKER_10:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh I'm from Indiana, and we're just down here visiting her dad. Yes. So that's the reason I was able to drive where I was, and it took me a while to get here.

SPEAKER_11:

So Freeman Key said the chief Garcia interview was great. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Um I have uh the chief position that he took over. I have the former chief. Now he saw that interview, and now he wants to be on, so that'll be fun because having a former chief means he can say whatever he wants. So I'm excited to kind of see what he had to say about what it was like to be a chief in a major, major city. So that'd be very cool. Eric works in the Milky Way. That's all you need to know. That's what she says. She gave you the look, Tanil's like, oh. All right, Matt. Um, real quick, um let me what is it? My brother's keeper? My father's business. My father's business close enough.

SPEAKER_04:

I could have told you that.

SPEAKER_11:

Nope, that's not the right one.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, Matt. I was gonna oh, when I come up there, man, I got your book. I'm gonna sign it.

SPEAKER_11:

What's the what's the web what's the website for? Oh, I found it. It's dot org. Oh, is that what it is?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, it's myfathersbrothers.org. Yeah, mfb youth.org.

SPEAKER_11:

Yep, I got it now. Yeah. I wanna I always want to make sure I share it. So let's share the screen. Matt, give people a little bit of background on what you do here and what they can find when they get to this site.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, we we uh we just take any kid from our city, don't care who they are, don't care what they've done. We we gather them together, open our doors to them, feed them, love them, let them play ball, uh, give them legal advice, uh school advice, help them get jobs. We do it all for these for these kids. Uh we love it. Our city is is wonderful. We've had everything in there from uh NBA, NBA player to uh some of the best football players around to just some of the most normal, smartest kids you'll ever meet. It's run by me and my sister. We got a fabulous board, Susan Sly. Um, and there's been thousands of kids come in and out of our program, and it's like the hottest, hottest ticket in town in my in my city.

SPEAKER_11:

I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_12:

We do we we got a lot of mouse to feed, so any support we get, we love it, and uh it goes to good use.

SPEAKER_11:

I love it.

SPEAKER_12:

Number one thing we teach them about the Lord. Love it.

SPEAKER_11:

Make sure that's why we stayed away from those tarot cards for you. Can't be jinxing it. Uh so um, yeah, uh, make sure you guys go check out that uh website. It's uh mfb youth.org. Um and help Matt in his mission. Uh, make sure you guys go check out his Facebook, his YouTube, his uh TikTok, all that stuff. Like, follow, subscribe, do all those things. Um for us, again, if you could just like and follow, that's all we really ask for. That really helps us. Uh, if you decide you want to be like Harrison Brock and uh uh Craig Holcomb that wanna and Brand R86, the guys that support our show on the regular, uh it's basically their show. They they pay for everything. So we appreciate that too. Um again, we're not uh we we pile the money up in the corner. Yeah, Tim will tell you.

SPEAKER_04:

And I do have a different name on TikTok now. Oh, yeah, it's uh just a bearded Tim. Just bearded Tim, yeah. Just a bearded Tim on TikTok because I had been getting a lot of people typing in my name, the old name of mine, and it was going to makeup tutorials.

SPEAKER_11:

Who said that? Can't believe Tim called you up for having a small monitor on the podcast. Guess some people get screen envy.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, just 57-inch uh his is actually smaller than my three put together.

SPEAKER_11:

Okay, yep, mine's just one screen.

SPEAKER_04:

I've got three 29-inch curved monitors all decked into one.

SPEAKER_11:

Ah, see, I got just one feet bigger.

SPEAKER_04:

Ha ha.

SPEAKER_11:

Uh mine's natural though. Yours is pieced together. Yeah, you had to do work. Oh shit. Uh, you got anything else, Matty, you want to get out there?

SPEAKER_12:

No, that's that's it. I just love you guys. Support DTV. We got some big things coming.

SPEAKER_04:

And uh, yeah, I can't wait to see you, Tim. Hey, I'm like I said, I'm making my way across the country, man. I just like I said, I'm gonna one way or another, just uh make it up there and closer. I mean, I made it down here to see this fool, so yeah, I'm a little closer. So he's staying in the loves. I stayed in a loves parking lot to meet him. Aww.

SPEAKER_11:

So, you know, trucker life. I love it, Tim. I loved you makeup videos. Nice, all right, y'all. Everybody, thanks for joining us. Have a good night. Take it easy. Love y'all.