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Sgt. Erik Lavigne Season 4 Episode 3

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A lot of people talk about “how policing has changed,” but we get specific, from the pre-body-cam days to the modern reality where every call can turn into a viral clip and every mistake gets replayed in slow motion. I walk through what the job looked like when I started, why body-worn cameras reshaped police culture, and how new technology like drones can genuinely make scenes safer when used the right way. The problem is the same one I keep seeing everywhere: the public wants expert-level results while agencies often fund and train at a beginner level. 

Then we dig into a real-world style scenario that keeps popping up across the country: a person filming a bank from a public sidewalk. What can police actually enforce, what’s just a complaint, and where do First Amendment rights and property lines collide? We break down civil trespass vs criminal trespass, why “reasonable expectation of privacy” matters, and why it’s a red flag when an officer tries to talk their way into authority they don’t have. You’ll also hear why calling a supervisor can be the smartest move a newer officer makes, even if the first explanation comes out messy. 

We also talk about the practical side of police work that rarely gets explained well online: how to de-escalate when you know a business is angry, why “check your stuff” saves careers, and how ego turns fixable mistakes into complaints, lawsuits, and mistrust. Plus, I share updates on the Gray Area monologues, how I’m using AI as an organizing tool without letting it speak for me, and a teaser about an upcoming guest the community helped connect. 

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Disclaimer And Viewer Warning

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Host Sergeant Eric Levine. Before we get started, here's a quick disclaimer. The views and opinions you're about to hear are those of the hosts and guests alone. They don't represent any police department, agency, sponsor, or employer. Two cops, one donut isn't responsible for anything said by guests or for any videos, clips, or content shown during the live stream. This show is intended for adult audiences only. We cover real incidents, we show graphic and sometimes disturbing footage, and we don't shy away from strong language or adult conversations. There may or may not also be alcohol involved. Viewer discretion is strongly advised. Everything you hear or see on the show is for entertainment and educational purposes. It is not legal advice and it's not tactical instruction. And it shouldn't be used for such. By continuing to watch, you're telling us that you understand, you accept all of this. All right, now let's get into it.

Solo Stream And Stormy Setup

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All right, welcome back. Let me get in frame here. Two cops, one donut. I'm your host, Derek Levine, by myself today. Uh, my wife is out of out of state. She's doing her nursing thing, and she's out at a conference, um, checking out Disney of all things. So I'm bored. My old my youngest kid's up in Michigan visiting family, and the only people that are home are my dogs and my oldest daughter who's talking to her boyfriend and doing boyfriend things. So I figured I would just jump on and cure my boredness with a live stream. So I'm looking over and seeing. Steve Wallace jumped on. What's up, brother? Uh, we've got MBRRP podcast in the house. What's up, brother? My mother has jumped on, so she was bored as well. We're getting hit with storms right now, by the way. So you guys know the history of me and storms on here. So I might lose y'all. If I do, I'll jump back on as soon as I have power. We'll see what happens. We found out in the neighborhood that I live in, because we only moved here like maybe going on two years in September. And for some reason, there's like 40 houses where I'm at that we all have the old power line system. So it seems like as soon as lightning even goes off in the distance, the power goes out. So it is what it is. So if we lose power, just be ready for that. I might get uh abruptly cut off the air. We'll see what happens. My mom said, I'm always bored. Well, get a hobby, woman. Uh Harrison, we said, What the hell? The storms are hitting your area. They are hitting my area, but you know what? I gotta be here for the people. No agenda today. Um, I haven't even got any videos pulled up. I mean, I can pull some videos up as we go. I'll probably pull up my stuff so we can bullshit about our stuff. Uh, Pirate Blue said, Can you read the IG comments? I can. I just don't keep up with them very well. All of my focus is over in this direction, all the IG stuff's way over here. Um is what it is. For whatever reason, Restream won't show the Instagram chat. So I tend to neglect the Instagram chat. So if you really want your stuff to be seen, please jump over to the YouTube channel. That is the best method for staying in contact. I see Arios on. What's going on, Ariel? Uh Craig's in the house. He said weird. It dropped me in the other YouTube version. Hey, Eric, I put my new Mavis drone to watch you tonight. Heck yeah. You got a Mavis, brother? That's awesome. Love it. Anyone going to bring up the Lego story? I kind of heard about that. The Lego story. Uh I don't know enough about it to talk about it, but I heard that something about a local PD's harassing some kid, saying that he stole like a Lego collection or something to that effect. Or somebody stole his Lego collection and he knew who it was. I don't remember. Like I said, I I could talk about it, but I wouldn't know what the fuck I'm talking about. So oh, I just spit. Did you see that? Thoughts on today's coping as when as to when you started. Is that what we're saying? Yeah. Boat Speedman said, thoughts on today's copying uh as to when I started.

How Policing Has Shifted Since 2006

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Okay. That's a good, that's a good topic. Thank you, Boatman. I like that. Um that's Boat Speedman over on Instagram wants to know how I view copying today, is how I viewed it when I first started. So all the way back, uh 2006 when I really started my law enforcement career. Um, but yeah, policing. I I got to police before body cams and a lot of that stuff. Uh, we still had VHS tapes inside of patrol cars and things of that nature for your dash camera system. And I would say the public's view on how cops handled suspects was out of sight, out of mind. They don't see it, they don't give a shit. The only time they'd care is when it was on video and if it looked bad. Um the the culture of the community and what they expect from police is has just changed vastly. So I guess I'll look at it two different aspects. I'll look at it how it affected me as a cop and then how I seen the community affect us as police. So for me, initially, we didn't wear nearly as many hats as cops when I first started. It your true thing was law enforcement. Like that was, you know, it as far as a community-oriented cop, yeah. The good cops, they figured out real quick that you had to be one with your beat and know your people and be out there and be seen and talk to people. Um, but there wasn't uh training on why that is. You just kind of figured it out from the good cops that you saw. But that changed. Like, as I would say about 2014 is when when it really 2012 to 2014 is when it really started to change. Body cams were starting to come out, it was a new concept. Cops hated it, didn't want it, didn't like the concept of it at all. Um, I know a lot of cops they thought that unless they caught it on body cam, no one was ever gonna trust their word again. Um, which there's some semblance of truth to that a little bit today. Uh, it just depends on the the courts, but um, and there's there's reason to back that thought process up because there's cops that have been busted lying and doing some dumb shit. So, so yeah, so you had that aspect, and the body cams were coming out. I was so excited, I volunteered. I was like one of the beta testers for our department. Um, we had the option of wearing it on our our lapel, uh like on our collar, um, or you had these uh glasses that you could wear. And I always worked midnight, so um, I would wear the glasses with the the clear lenses because I wanted it to like see what I was seeing, and I just thought the thing on the collar, I wasn't sure just how much that was gonna see. So I don't know why I'm going down a rabbit hole with the body cams, but it did change policing. That that part completely changed the culture of policing. Um, but the hats we wore, they now they want, you know, all the way up to today. We've we've gotten into animal control. Uh and I don't mean like cops were never called for this before, but now we're going through training on like how to use one of them damn dog poles and how to see when a dog is being aggressive and signs and symptoms of dogs is aggression and stuff like that. Um we're doing the community outreach stuff. We're doing hope, uh, which is like a homeless outreach program. Shit, I don't even know if you're allowed to call them homeless anymore. We talk about things just keep continuously changing. Um, you know, the concept of cops need to ride by themselves versus riding two-man. That's kind of flip-flop back and forth. Um, wanting cops to be crisis intervention intervention trained, excited delirium trained, medically trained. Um, man, I feel like I'm missing a whole bunch of other just things I didn't expect in policing. Um shit, we can't even get the the the law on the constitution side down. You're throwing all these other things at us. So uh yeah, Craig said unhoused, the unhomed, uh the urban survivalist, if you will. So yeah, it it's changed. It has changed. Policing has changed immensely. The amount of hats everybody wants you to wear and and the and the the non-support. They want you to be a jack of all. I'm sorry, they want you to be a master of all, but only provide you the jack of all training uh funding. And that's where it sucks. I I recently put out one of the gray area videos and I talk about you expect black belt level competency, but you only gave us white belt level training. And you can't have both. Well, it's kind of how all these things are. You want me to be able to go out and talk a person off the ledge. You want me to go out and be able to look at a person and be able to tell you that's a mental health disorder versus that's a drug uh-induced disorder versus that's a crisis intervention thing, it's excited delirium, medical issue. Like, you want me to be able to look at it and diagnose it. I just can't do all this, guys. Like, I don't think okay, I'm I'm dumb in a lot of things, but I think in the policing side of things, I uh I feel like I'm better than most, I guess. Uh but man, there's so much. There's so much. Um just just damn this new Taser 10. Like, that's a new thing that I have. I'll probably never use it because I'm not in the streets anymore, but still gotta have it. You know, when I do work a part-time or something like that, in the very rare occasion, or if I do have to go out to the streets, I gotta be able to say that I was trained in that damn thing and I have it, but it's so different from the last one that I use. It I feel like I'm competent in it. I went through the whole course and all that stuff, but things are just constantly changing and policing. So it's a really good question. Um, and then on the citizen side, I didn't even hit the citizen side

Body Cameras And The Training Squeeze

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of this. Um, the citizen side of how policing has changed is your expectations have changed. You guys are a lot smarter. That and that's a great thing. Um people know their rights way more. They're well more informed uh informed than they ever were before. Uh that's thanks to the technology boom. And that that's where we're at right now. The culture of policing, we're so used to people not knowing their rights, um, thinking that they know, cops thinking that they know, and then getting checked by people now that are more correct than they are. And now the cops questioning themselves and the ego takes over. So uh I would say that's been the biggest changes because back in the day, I'd be like, all right, you know, according to my knowledge, it'd be like, yeah, I think this is violation, such, such, such, such. Um, you know, turn, put your hands around your back, and be like, oh, that's bullshit, you know, but nobody really say anything. And then now you got somebody standing off to the side and be like, no-uh, they got it right here, and the elements are this, and you're like, let me see that real quick. Ah shit, you're right. Yeah. My bad. Um, I would have figured that out before I took them anywhere. That's another thing, officers. Like, if you put someone cuffs and detain them, and and you've got them detained based on an uh offense, you think that they've committed, look the offense up. I see too many times these days, people are cuffing and stuffing, and they're going down to the jail, and then they don't even figure out they were wrong until the jail sergeant or the judge looks over their affidavit and they're like, you don't have PC here because you're missing this element. And like it's the information age, guys. Just check your shit. Don't get offended when somebody wants you to make sure you're getting paid by the hour anyway. Check your shit. So um, I hope that answers your question, Boatman. Uh yeah, policing has changed immensely since I've gotten in. This the technology is amazing. I'm so excited about it and so frightened by it all at the same time. I'm really excited about the drone stuff. I think it's amazing. Day one, I've had success. We got a guy with a weapon shooting a 6'5 Creedmore over a residential area. That was awesome. We I was able to move officers, I shouldn't say I, my team. I don't want to say me. My team was able to move officers in at a pivotal moment that we would have never had eyes on before when this guy was having trouble with this weapon. And it was a good time. It was a safe time. Officers move in, he couldn't go anywhere, he was caught by surprise, and it went peacefully. I'm like, this is it. This is what this thing's intended to do. Now, my fear, and inevitably, it always happens. Every new toy, some cop abuses it. I just ask that the public and that the police departments hold that person accountable and don't let them ruin a good tool for the citizens and police because of an idiot's overreach. Um, but yeah, just is what it is. Uh Marine Blood. Want to help us mods? Encourage Eric to tell us mods before he goes live. Join the Discord and he won't be able to get away. My bad, guys. I I hate bothering y'all when when it's not planned, so I'm just like, I'll handle it. That's that's me. Um somebody talking shit to my mom. She gets she deserves it sometimes. Go ahead. Hit her up. Mike, Mike Jones. Ah she has no idea what reference that is, by the way. Uh she has no clue. That is so funny.

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Mom, do you know who Mike Jones is?

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I'm just I'm looking at the comments. Sorry guys. Um yeah, if you're over there on Instagram, guys, I uh we Instagram live doesn't do very well. If you're over on TikTok, too, I think we're live on TikTok. If you're over on TikTok or our Instagram, I think I lost signal there for a second and it just jumped back on. Um yeah, I don't think my mom yeah, my mom said, no, I shouldn't know who Mike Jones is. Mom, if you don't know Mike Jones, you gotta know his phone number.

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Oh, there it goes. Mom, you don't know Mike Jones. I think it's uh 281-330-8004. I used to listen to Mike Jones all the time in high school. Uh in junior high.

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Loved it. Marine Blood said, it's fine. We're just like a heads up so we aren't broadsided. I didn't notice until I opened YouTube. I will say this about my mods. Every time I do this to them and I go live randomly, um, it's not very long before one of them at least jumps on. So they're always, you guys are always monitoring something, it seems like. Uh Ryan said, Eric, it is true that, or is it true that donuts were once square, but they had to round the corners for officer saying. Ha ha! Shut up, Ryan. Don't be don't be talking trash about us, bro. Tim's in the house finally. Tim said, boo. My mods are mad. Sorry, guys. I just I was bored. Just figured I'd jump on. Um, but yeah, keep throwing those questions out there, guys. Uh, let's let's let's chop it up tonight. Let's just bullshit. I'm drinking a uh, I think it's strawberry lemonade C4. It's a new one. I went up to the gas station and I was so I'm so tired today. I don't know what the deal is. And I didn't want to fall asleep early and stay up super late, so I just decided to do this. Uh Jay Joe Swan. Joe Swanson Tactico. Sorry, I didn't I wanted to read it right. It's tough to be an expert in all areas, but one should be proficient. Lead with curiosity. Yes, yes, put that on a t-shirt. That is true. That's um it's a it's a big frustration. It's one of the reasons why the latest episode of the gray area, I did it about use of force and and in grappling. I I feel, I think, in my experience, one of the big reasons cops don't get into grappling is because they suck at it. It's a it's a it's a self-evaluation that you can't get away from. They have to look in the mirror and realize that after six months, four months, however good or bad your academy is, that at the end of it, they're still uh a guppy in a in a fishbowl of sharks when it comes to grappling. And that's very hard for type A personality egos that just what uh Joe was saying there about um Joe Swanson Tactical was saying about curiosity. If you're a curious person, then you can overlook your ego and be like, all right, yeah, I suck at this, but if I keep going, like look at how these guys owned me, you know, the people that you're rolling with and stuff like that, and taking up grappling. Uh having that curiosity makes you makes you better, man. It's just uh that's a that shit's deep. I like it. Uh science mindset. I can bullshit really fast. Hell yeah, brother. Welcome to the club. As a cop, you gotta be able to do that, especially if you see some like crazy shit.

Learning To Talk On The Fly

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One day, I'll I'll tell you guys a story. Story time. Uh you guys remember that Vine. I had a car pulled over, and I it was just a basic stop of this dude's front, headlight, and taillight were out. And all I was, excuse me, because you guys know I'm not a ticket person. I just pull, I pull people over to let them know. Because how often do you check your own headlight and taillight? I don't, I never do. I usually it's somebody else going, hey, dude, your taillights out or your headlights out. I'm like, oh shit, because we're busy. We nobody looks at that stuff unless your car just happens to be parked in the right way when you hit the button or whatever and you see your headlights. Like, so anyway, pull this guy over. And as I'm like telling him, hey man, I was like, I don't need your ID or anything. I was that's what I was gonna tell him. I don't need your ID or anything like that. And I saw in coming out, like between the seats, what I could just see fingertips, y'all. Fingertips. And I was like, on second thought, yeah, let me get your ID real quick because I don't want to get in trouble for not like I had to learn to bullshit on the fly on this. Turns out my boy had a mannequin in his trunk and it was just poking through. He was doing some sort of Halloween thing that was coming up. But yeah, yeah. So talking about Loan having having to learn how to bullshit on the fly really fast, I had to do that shit. I thought I thought I had a body in the trunk. Turns out it was just a mannequin. So that's all. Uh Freeman said, What up, free? He said, Eric, I sent you a video, something fairly local to you. Yes, I did see it. You weren't the only one that sent it to me. Um he said, it's possible you shouldn't cover it here. I just wanted you to see it. Um, I could actually cover that. I could cover that one on here. It's just, I'll be honest, it's not a real sexy story to me. But if it's if it's up, if it's something you guys are really into, I guess we we could for sure. Um I just, it's one of those things that's just common sense to me. Dude should have been fired, he wasn't, and now look at what happened to him. Uh so Tim said mannequin, aka girlfriend. Speaking of mannequin, you guys remember the old 80s movie mannequin? That was a great shit. That was a great movie. It was one of those like I can't see that they probably spent a whole lot on the budget, but it just did really well. It it did well for kids like me. In my imagination at that time. I think my wife really likes that movie too. Now that I'm thinking about it. Just looking over on Instagram. Hey, if you guys are jumping on Instagram, I don't check the chat very much because it doesn't flow naturally with the way that my setup is. I just use it so people know to come over to our YouTube channel. So, but yeah, um, status

The Gray Area Format And AI

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with the show. Let me let me just kind of give you guys an updated status. Is for for those that don't know, I did start a new monologue thing that I'm doing. Um, I guess I could use some feedback from y'all. Uh, is it going too quickly? Is it going too slowly? Are you guys making it all the way through without your brains melting, you know, because our attention spans are a lot shorter these days. I was trying to get something that was in the middle. I kind of want you guys to know where my mindset was on the gray area stuff. Is we talk about a lot of cool stuff on the live stream. I think, I think everybody will agree with that. And I will be able to get out almost full thoughts on certain topics, but most of the time I'm only able to get out partial thought, half thought. I'm bouncing it off somebody else. They're giving kind of a piece of it. And it never really fully, I never really get to fully give my perspective on a topic. And I wanted to be able to do that in a different way. So that's where I kind of came up with the gray area. I could take a topic that you guys have just, I mean, we've been doing this five years. So I wanted to take a topic that you guys have been hitting me up on, and I wanted to be able to go down uh a rabbit hole with one topic that's been on my mind and just go at it and how I see it from the police side and the civilian side, and kind of give how I feel about it and in my my opinion. Doesn't mean my opinion holds any water, but what I'm trying to get is that I'm hoping that I'm seeing the civilian side properly on a lot of this stuff. And if I'm not, if I'm way off, then you guys are gonna be able to tell me. And I'm gonna be able to tweak and and figure that out and try to improve that later on when we do you know follow-up episodes on this and stuff. But I've got 10 episodes that I'm gonna do. It's gonna be that's gonna be the season. It's gonna be a you know, I'm just gonna do this one season, 10 episodes. The final episode will kind of be a culmination of all the episodes and what I think I've shared and learned. But I yeah, I'm just curious if you guys are getting all the way through it. I'm trying to keep it between eight and twelve minutes. I'm not trying to uh make it any longer than that. I don't want it to be any shorter though, because then I'm not really divulging a full thought. So just curious what you guys think. Um let me know if you guys are making it all the way through and all that stuff. Uh Ryan said, Eric, just curious, do you have to pay for any of your equipment or weapons? You do have to buy your uniforms. Yeah, so you do get initially given your uniform. Um, I don't I don't have to pay for any of the other stuff. Uh, but as you know, they never give you enough stuff or the premium stuff that some of us want. So yeah, I you know, I buy like my own mic and earpiece. Um although they give you a lapel mic, it's not enough for me. Almost everybody's wearing uh earpieces as they should be. Listen, officers, officers, look look at me. I'm the captain now. Wear earpieces in the field. If you're a patrol officer, wear earpiece. And if you're in patrol and you're still just using a handheld, shame on you. Do better. Holy shit. Sorry. I had to get intimate with the camera real quick. Um Free said, Eric, uh, what I'm seeing is that people are loving the new format. I would say just be you. Honest, thoughtful, experienced. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm I'm trying. Um full disclosure, I am using AI to keep me on track because y'all know how my brain goes. The ADHD, I I go all over the place. So what I did was I wrote out my script, I typed it all out, and it just reorganized it for me. So it I flow better. So if you guys were like, damn, Eric's really flowing. Well, yeah, AI got me on track. So it's a great tool. You just don't let it speak for you because it's an idiot. It doesn't, it doesn't it doesn't understand. Um every once in a while it tries to change some of my stuff, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna we're gonna use my words, not yours. Uh it's very cool. Has anybody seen thin blue line audits? That does sound familiar, Country Girl. I I think he's talked in the chat before, or maybe I'm thinking of blue line audits or blue line something or other. I don't know. Oh other really good news that I my mods know, but and Mr.

Teasing A New Guest Booking

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Billfold knows. Um, I talked to oh man, you guys are gonna love this. I'm gonna kind of slow play this for a second. We're gonna have a really cool guest on the show. We just gotta get the date worked out. Um I'll tell you he's out of Tennessee. See if you guys can guess in the in the chat. Uh he's he's out of Tennessee, so that's a really big clue. He's very popular amongst um people that you may know, like the civil rights uh attorney uh or civil rights, whatever he's called. I can't remember his damn name. Um let me see who else uh who is another good person to compare him to? Um audit the audit, maybe. Uh I'm just saying uh Harrison goes, I know who it is. Freeman, Freeman, you're really clear. Yeah, that's half of it. That's half of it, brother. And I have the community to thank for it. Somebody, yep, Southern draw law. I talked to him for damn near an hour on the phone, bro. We were we vibe. We gun, we were just we were chatting up a storm. The only reason we stopped was because his wife was like, it's time to get off the phone. We got stuff to do. So well, Tim, you have to check Discord in the mod section. That's why you don't know. Because it's right there. Um Justin Timberlake, that'd be kind of cool. I'd be like, all right, Justin, real quick. Follow my finger with your eyes and your eyes only without moving your head. Too soon? Oh shit. Yeah, so um, first and foremost, thank you to the community because somebody reached out several times over the last three months and were like, hey, they're talking about you over on this page, this channel. So he's talking about us. Because you guys know I I mentioned Southern Draw Law quite. I was calling them Southern Law Draw because they dyslexic apparently. And um somebody, I don't know who it was. He told me the name while we were talking, but we were talking so fast and so much, I can't remember what it was. But they were putting the timestamps from our live stream on his comments for his videos, and he saw those and went and checked them out, and then that's when he reached out to me uh through email. So, whoever that was, thank you. I mean, our community is fucking awesome. Uh, we would not have the people that we have had. I mean, we've had Long Island Audit, Auto the Watch uh dog, we've had San Joaquin, we've had HBO Matt. Oh shit. I know there's more that I'm missing. Um I'm trying to get Coley on on this damn show. That dude is busier than anybody I've ever met. Um big Second Amendment guy. Uh please watch, Robert Lowe said. Please watch Colt News' latest video of Jacksonville where the deputy tries to say, you can't film private information that the bank admits you could see from the window. Of course he does. Of course he does. Let me see. Let me see if I can find that. Jack Jacksonville cop.

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Oh, you said deputy.

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Jacksonville deputy claims you can't film the bank public place. Uh I'll just see if I can do a rudimentary search to see if I can find it. You said it was uh I'm sorry, but cult news. I should have probably typed that in. One day ago. Alright. Shout out to Cult News. Um, I haven't seen this. But when the people request, what else can you do?

Bank Window Filming And First Amendment Rights

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Oh man. Let me pull this up for y'all. Uh share screen. Share screen. Share screen. There we go. Um, no, I don't want to be the big one.

SPEAKER_03

Let's see. Let's do that. How's that look? Does that look fine? Maybe I should do it like that. No, I don't like that either. Maybe maybe like this.

SPEAKER_01

There we go. Yeah. That's not bad. It looks better on uh the vertical too, so. Alright, we're gonna biggie size. There we go. Oh, no, that cuts it right off. Yeah, we'll just go back to this. There you go. Alright, y'all.

SPEAKER_07

You can ID somebody who hasn't broken the law. Okay. Yeah, I'm not going inside. I'm staying outside.

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You can't record from outside, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Oh, yeah, no, I can't. It works great. In fact, I got all sorts of information on your computer monitor there. So yeah, I can see beautifully inside.

SPEAKER_02

So he's standing outside of the bank.

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Let's let's appreciate the joke he just gave. He said, no, no, no, you can't record out there. He goes, No, actually, I can. I'm doing great. That was uh that was some good im improv, I guess you would call it.

SPEAKER_10

Uh yeah, outside of the bank, but he's he's recording.

SPEAKER_08

But when your camera is going inside of a business, you're on your property.

SPEAKER_07

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So that is possibly I'm not insult you.

SPEAKER_07

That's the stupidest thing you've ever heard of. Are you new?

SPEAKER_08

I get what your aim is out here.

SPEAKER_07

I get what your name is out here. Are you new?

SPEAKER_08

Are you new to trying to date someone to do it?

SPEAKER_07

Are you taking the baby officer uh is it deputy Crawford? Are you taking the baby? I haven't stepped foot on the property once. Seriously, go f yourself. I haven't stepped foot on the property. He's trying to get us to violate his civil rights so that he can see everybody, K-U-L T News back again with another video. Today.

SPEAKER_01

Alright. Um, I'm gonna fast forward and I this is long as shit. I don't want to watch the whole thing. Oh, thunder's rolling. I don't know if you guys can hear it in here. It was really loud at my point.

SPEAKER_08

Sir How are you?

SPEAKER_09

I'm fantastic. Can you tell me what you're doing?

SPEAKER_07

Hey, I'm taking pictures. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_09

Mr. Lady right here would like to speak.

SPEAKER_08

Hi, sir. How are you? Hi, how are you doing today? No complaints on yourself. I'm doing pretty good. So the fitting calls is a concern because um the person windows have their computer up.

SPEAKER_07

That is very concerning actually. I didn't I walk past the uh notice that they've got a computer one or space in the sidewalk, three feet from the windows.

SPEAKER_08

Uh they said you're filming through the window. So they'd like you trespass from the property.

SPEAKER_07

I'm not on the property, I'm stepping up on the property.

SPEAKER_08

So um, they're gonna trespass you from the property. So if you can provide your your information, no. Okay.

SPEAKER_07

No, I haven't broken the law.

SPEAKER_08

Can you start me to supervisor, please?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you'll look definitely a supervisor if you think you can you can ID somebody who hasn't broken the law.

Civil Trespass And Refusing To ID

SPEAKER_01

So, um, educational purposes, he's right. Okay, he hasn't been on the property, he's not on the property. So she okay, and I I can't speak for their state, but at least in the state of Texas, right now, and it seems weird to people that if you're gonna get trespassed from somewhere, that why wouldn't you have to give the cop your ID? Well, the reason being is because this ain't a criminal trespass, this is a civil trespass currently. And because it's a civil trespass, you don't have a right to their ID. So he could tell you whatever name he wants to. Um I think I don't I don't think you can get in trouble for giving fake or fictitious name to a law enforcement officer because she's not conducting a criminal investigation at this point. So I don't I think you could give a fake name or or just choose you're better off choosing not to give a name. So let's just go with that. Don't give a name. Uh, and there's nothing she could do about it. The best she can do is give a description, take a screenshot from her body camera or whatever other footage that they have, and then just put on there, you know, if this guy makes contact again, you know, they have a photo on record and they can compare it uh later on. Now, they can trespass him all day long from there. It's not a criminal issue. That's absolutely she's allowed to do that. Um but here's the real question what if he decides to just walk away? What if as she's like, I'm gonna write this criminal trespass, and he just says I'm leaving? I would argue that he can leave. He's not being detained, it's not a criminal issue. So that that's how that works. Um but yeah, uh, right now, I I'm not seeing anything crazy. I'm glad she's calling a supervisor. I I'm getting from her tone, and this is me speculating, but I'm getting from her tone, she knows she's in over her head, she's not very clear on it, so she wants to call a supervisor there. Good move. I'm I like that so far. That's a smart move. Um, let's see where it goes.

SPEAKER_08

Okay, so I understand that the the sidewalk is city property and you're free to be on the sidewalk. Okay. But when you're hold on.

SPEAKER_01

Project said cross-draw taser, not a fan. I am a fan. You should always cross draw. The reason you never want it on the same side as your weapons, because you don't need to get in confused. How many times have we seen officers go taser, taser, taser? Bang! That's a lot of times is because they got the taser on the same side as their firearm. Cross draw is the way to go. Um, and then that way, like me, I usually draw with my non-dominant hand where my taser's at. It it but it's set up to where it can be drawn with my left hand or cross-drawn. But yeah, I don't, I don't ever want it anywhere else for me. It's a uh personal preference and and tactical strategy. Uh anyway, let's keep going.

SPEAKER_08

You're on their property.

SPEAKER_07

Really?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So that is possibly I'm not gonna insult you. That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_08

I'm looking at their windows, and if I had to be up against the window, I would have to be in a bush right there.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah. If I was actually in the bush, I suppose possibly, but that wasn't the case. I wasn't on their property, haven't set foot on their property. Okay. And if you think you can ID somebody because I'm basically in their property or on their property, if I aim a camera at them, that's more. Are you new?

SPEAKER_08

I get what your aim is out here.

SPEAKER_07

I get what your aim is out here. Are you new?

SPEAKER_08

Are you new to try to bait someone into the city? Are you taking the bait, Officer?

SPEAKER_07

Uh is it Deputy Crawford? Are you taking the bait?

SPEAKER_08

What I'm informing you is that the bank does not want you on their property.

SPEAKER_07

I'm not on their property, Crawford.

SPEAKER_08

Are you not listening? So the bank go ahead. Okay. So the bank does not want you on their property. If you return on their property, wait, wait, wait, return.

SPEAKER_07

Stop right there, Crawford. You haven't stepped in on the property once. Seriously, go fuck yourself. I haven't stepped in on their property. Yes, it's a supervisor. They need to educate you. You're not too brand new. Are you brand new? Are you brand new? But you're right here telling me that I'm like I don't go on their property again.

SPEAKER_08

I've told you repeatedly, I haven't stepped in on your property that you're shaking right now. Am I shaking? Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

I don't think I'm shaking.

SPEAKER_08

You're physically shaking.

SPEAKER_07

I'm annoyed by bad cops. Maybe that's that's part of the reason.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, the bank called me here for a reason.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, because they're stupid. And then they're hoping that the person who comes out to respond to it is also stupid. Bingo, I guess they found one, huh? You think I you come here, let me show you where I was at. Come on over here. Come on over, proper. Are you gonna come over? No, I'm good right here. I was gonna show you where I was at. Come on, come on, property! Come on, come on, come on, I'll show you. Let me show you exactly where I'm at. So you're not interested in the facts, are you? So you don't care about the facts. You don't care about the truth. I'm not gonna talk to someone that's irate. You don't want to see where we're standing right here? So shit.

SPEAKER_01

You're not gonna talk to a lot of people in policing if you don't want to talk to them when they're irate. Happens quite a bit. You just it's just part of the game. Um a little disappointed she wouldn't go over there and just look. Uh, especially if you're going to make claims that they can't that filming through the window is somehow being on their property or whatever that thing that she tried to put together was. Uh, which was I I agree with him, idiotic. But I mean, yeah, I I would be like, it's a way for me as an officer one to show both sides I'm being impartial. So let me go over there and take a look. All right, cool. Yeah, you're right. I can see right through there. Um, now I can go inform the bank. Like, it's on you to protect your information, it's not on him to not look at it. Like, he's on a public place. You got to protect your information from a public public area. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So the problem, the problem with him, he's a one of these sovereign citizen type guys. Oh he's trying to get us to violate civil rights so that he can say that's what I said. That's what I said. Um I was a supervisor on the way to talk to him, but so I told him their concern was that he was filming so closely to the window that he could see personal information from bank customers. And then he put that on y'all that y'all shouldn't have the computers facing the window where public, you know, private information can be accessed from a public sidewalk. That that's how these people that's how these people, that's how they roll, right? He's he's still mad right now, he's shaking. So I I told him, like, just calm down a little bit so we can talk, but he doesn't want to listen to me. So the problem with this is the sidewalk is city property.

SPEAKER_01

Part of his like, okay, this is where he kind of slipped up. When she asked him why he was shaking, and he at first he did say, you know, I'm not shaking. And he's like, I'm I'm doing it because uh I I don't like dealing with idiot cops or whatever it was that he was saying. So he kind of like when you said it that way, now you're kind of acknowledging that you were shaking. So I think that's the only real slip-up I've seen on his side so far. Not that that's a big deal. Who cares if he's shaking?

SPEAKER_08

So focusing his camera. But why are you filming inside the window? So make sense. He can film from outside. You don't have it's not like he's it's not like he's filming into a dressing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, everybody keeps talking about the sovereign citizen thing. Like, you're not even it's a First Amendment auditor at worst, I guess. It's a First Amendment guy. Like that's has nothing to do with being the this is as far from a sovereign citizen side as I could think of. You guys know how the sovereign citizen nut jobs are. Uh, and yeah, I'm gonna keep calling them nut jobs for as long as I can. Um and and hope that they try to come into our community. They drive me up the wall. They're all they are is hustlers trying to get money out of y'all. That's really what they're trying to do. Uh anyway.

SPEAKER_08

Or a locker room or somewhere where you have an expectation of privacy, right? Or a bathroom. This is um a public bank. You have windows that are open, and some have shades, some don't have shades.

SPEAKER_01

So what I would suggest No, Harrison, we don't label people that hold to their rights. It's when they make up rights. That's when that's when I call them sovereign citizens. When you make up theoretical law bullshit that's not true. And I hate to break it to every single person in this comment section, but I've got more courtroom experience watching these suckers get just knocked down judge after judge after judge, and failed appeal after failed appeal to where it goes nowhere. That's who I'm talking about. It's not people that stand up for their rights. We know when you're standing up for your rights. That's totally different. But when you try to pull some shit that you've got your own fake license plate that says that you're sovereign or that you're a national or whatever the other crazy shit that they do, and then you try to hand me a packet and tell me that you're not gonna talk to me until I sign this packet and all these other delay tactics and dumb shit they do. Uh no, that's not that is not who we're talking about. We're not calling sovereign citizens. Well, I'm not. I'm not calling those people sovereign, these type of people sovereign citizens, stand up for their rights. Um and I don't think a lot of cops are. Now, this one, obviously, she seems fairly new. I say I Know how long she's been a cop at all. Doesn't seem very long.

SPEAKER_08

Is that if you have an area where you're using a computer that's in your window, close the shade. Um if he comes in the bank, because he comes inside the bank?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_08

Okay. So if he comes inside the bank, that's a different, a whole different issue. Um if he's harassing people as they come in and out of the business and he's interfering with the your business of productivity because he's harassing your customers, that's another issue. But right now he's found a building that's close to a city sidewalk, so he's he's skirting the line of what he knows he can skirt. Um I thought he came in the bank.

SPEAKER_09

That's why I was saying the way every single time we go to a window and close it, and he's at the windows focusing his um uh his scope to get close. From the sidewalk, from the sidewalk.

SPEAKER_01

So at least they're not lying. I'll give them credit. A lot of these I have had many people, they will they will push the envelope either of just outright lying, um, especially on a trespassing be like, because I'll always ask, did you ask the person to leave? Yeah, we told them to leave a bunch of times, and then come to find out they never tried to tell them to leave once. So, and that makes a difference.

SPEAKER_09

No, no, we only at this up to there because so not on not on this sidewalk where the cards are parked. Yeah. Um, but just the manner in which, and I get it because they solve insidences, that whole thing is like bless your hearts having to deal with it.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

See you and heard too much from it.

SPEAKER_08

They try to, yeah, so basically, people pay them to like try to get police hemmed up on violating somebody's rights. They try to get you worked up or names and they do all that childish stuff. But I knew right away before I even got here that it was probably gonna be that one based on the description of the call.

SPEAKER_09

Um, because that's basically and currently it's like, how do you have a legal right to zoom into a um because at this point you're you're violating my rights. I've not agreed to be on your camera or be photograph.

SPEAKER_08

Right. Well, you're in public though. You there's no reasonable expectation of privacy in public. Like I said, you're not you're not in a locker room, you're not in a doctor's office or a hospital, you're not where, you know, in a bathroom.

SPEAKER_01

See, this is the this is the part where I can tell that it's a training issue on some some of this, because she's she's getting some of it right. And how she understands I can I can see the wheels turning and putting the pieces together. And she's getting a little better on the explaining as she goes, but she was really bad at it at the beginning, obviously. So the training's in there somewhere, it's just not very good.

SPEAKER_08

You're not in a changing area, he hasn't practiced it for sure. So someone can even go to a pool and and film people at the pool because it's a public place, and a lot of times we have another times HOA communities that have like a community pool will get people that residents will get mad because they're like, hey, my kids are out here. But but you're in a public place, so there's no reasonable expectation there. Yeah, and they're allowed to film.

SPEAKER_10

So how are we supposed to know not chasing the place out? Yeah, you can say that's where he's doing, but he's filming while pulling.

SPEAKER_01

Now, I'm not gonna get on this guy too much because he's just a civilian. Now, if a cop had said that and tried to use that as an excuse, holy shit, I would have lit him up. Uh, because he said, I don't know if you guys heard it. He's like, how do we know he's not scoping the place to rob it? How many people do you know go unobstructed with their their identification, their physical appearance, for one, in an open public area where they're being uh everybody in God can see them and is filming them. I know that that bank has cameras all around the building. What idiot is gonna stand out there for long enough for the cops to show up uh as a a way to scope the bank to rob it. Like it just come on, use your use your head.

SPEAKER_08

So I can tell you that his goal right now is to get one of us to violate his rights, and then he gets a payout. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

And that's why I told Brandon Manager.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, the side won't be. Uh oh.

SPEAKER_05

He knows that he's just one of the he's one of those probably the YouTube people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's getting paid. And if he's on a public sidewalk, oh he's getting paid. Now he's not illegal.

SPEAKER_08

That's what I told him. I said, I said, now if you're in the bushes getting to get to their window, we have a problem with that, right? Because now like you're on their property if you're standing in their heads. But he hasn't come in.

SPEAKER_05

That's y'all's property, right? Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, please come on this side.

SPEAKER_09

Please come on this side.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

But see, but they look at that. They look at they look at property maps before they go somewhere and they know where they can and can't stand, so that they know just enough to be able to irritate you to love this.

SPEAKER_01

So then you're not going to be able to counter the introduction.

SPEAKER_00

You're educated on this stuff because I'm coming here next week uh to do the same thing.

SPEAKER_09

Okay, great. Yeah, I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00

I don't have I don't have a whole lot else to do, so I'm gonna I know you have nothing to do but to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_08

But if he comes in your establishment and you say, hey, you're not you we're not we're now something I do want to point out is what the that mail officer just did.

De-Escalation And Rookie Mistakes

SPEAKER_01

He is this is that's a form of de-escalating. Because the last thing he wants is these people at this bank to turn around and try to file any sort of complaint on them for not doing anything. And I know that sounds stupid, but that's some of the damn headaches that we have to deal with as police officers is even though let's say I went there and I told these people, like, hey, he's got every right to do this, this is why, First Amendment. I educate them, whatever. I leave, I get complained on because I didn't do anything in their eyes. I I did nothing, there was no enforcement, so they're upset, and then they so him making them laugh, trying to trying to bring them down a little bit, just a little form of de-escalation. Um probably well timed. I I I I like that he he tried to get them to laugh a little bit. Um, because he wasn't a part of this call. So I don't want to hang him up and lump him in with all these guys. Uh this one's mainly on this Crawford officer so far.

SPEAKER_08

You're not a customer here, you need to leave, and he doesn't leave, then that that's a whole different storage.

SPEAKER_10

I'm just wanting to call to be sure because operation is going to be the call.

SPEAKER_08

Because when we went up to Haskell, well the issue is he's zooming in through windows where they have computers pulled up with customer information on them. And he's like, Yeah, so that's what initiated those.

SPEAKER_10

We want to be able to witness what's walking around the room.

SPEAKER_05

Again, he comes on the property. We you got a whole different story.

SPEAKER_09

But when he is sitting right there, I'm sorry, sir. Could you walk out in the street just a little bit at the wrong time? So then again, then he goes, Oh, sorry. Thank you. We appreciate you.

SPEAKER_06

Because I mean, there's a lot of businesses that don't know, and like I say, if you're familiar with using there's people, there are thousands of them. Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Finally, a voice of reason. I hope you guys can educate uh Deputy Crawford, who thinks it's uh it's against she's right inside here. She's not too bright. She thinks it's against the law if me to be out here taking pictures on a public sidewalk. If I'm aiming my camera in their windows, I'm basically on their property. So she's kind of stupid. If you could educate her, I'd sure appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01

I was waiting when he talked to the supervisor.

SPEAKER_07

How does somebody get that dumb? I mean, is she brand new? Hey, can I get your name and badge number, deputy? Officer what now?

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SPEAKER_07

Blues like blues clues? Yeah, I dig that. He said, Yeah, technically.

Why Body Cam Footage Takes So Long

SPEAKER_07

Well, hey there! Thanks for sticking around and watching the whole episode. I wanted to share a little info with you about this particular uh episode. It was recorded in uh Jacksonville, Florida on July 18th, 2025. And this is, other than a uh a little sneak peek of that idiot cop uh Officer Crawford that we did back in December. Um, this is the first time we've ever posted this video. And the reason for that is because we waited until literally yesterday, June 3rd, um, until we actually got the body cam footage from Officer Crawford and the uh other officer that was there. There are three cops present. One of them, uh the younger uh fellow, apparently didn't activate his body cam footage. So um that's bad on him. But uh we like to wait for the body cam footage sometimes in the 911 calls. Uh we don't always get them. In California, it's very difficult to get them. In fact, we're actually in California right now. Uh I just wanted to uh let you guys know that we wait as long as we need to to get body cam footage in 911 calls, and that means sometimes you don't see uh uh an episode um until it's been a freaking year since it was recorded. Usually it's a bit faster than that. But Jacksonville actually uh they set a new record for us as far as waiting the longest amount of time before we actually receive that body cam footage. So, Jacksonville Police Department, you guys are grossly incompetent. Um also, did you notice that uh Officer Crawford lying through her frickin' teeth? First, she makes the assumption that uh uh I'm some sort of a sovereign citizen. Um I've never identified as a sovereign citizen. I do not believe I am a sovereign citizen, but boy, she was bound to determine to make me a sovereign citizen. Um she also uh clearly lied quite a bit to the other officers, claiming, oh, that's what I told him. No, she came out and told me that recording that bank in public, I was basically inside the bank. I'm basically trespassing. Um, so Officer Crawford, if you're watching this, you are a moron. Learn our rights. Now, once in a blue moon, we don't have any really good bonus footage for an area that we're in because we're there for such a such a short period of time. Jacksonville, Florida was like that. We are there for one day only.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna I'm gonna cut him off there. Um he goes on a rant for quite a while looking at the the stuff. But um, yeah, good video. He was in the right. Um she was very inexperienced. You could tell. Uh, I think, you know, I I'll give her credit on she did want to get a supervisor there. Uh I just think she talked out of her ass and she got caught doing it. I mean, who hasn't tried to fake it till they make it? Some of us do that too much. Um, I use it sparingly because the last thing you want to do is try to fake it till you make it, and you get caught faking it. I think that's exactly what happened there. She tried to pull some bullshit and she tried to pull bullshit on the wrong guy. Who knows? And he got her. He got her pretty good. So um Marine Blood said, but he is a sovereign citizen because Officer Crawford said so. Yeah, I know, right? Um, I think that maybe I don't know. I be I'm just speculating. I won't even say it. Uh yeah. So okay. Alright, what else we got? What else we got? What other questions do we have? What other topics? Uh talked about the gray area stuff, getting through it. Um what else? I've got uh oh now this video doesn't have the it just I just put it up today. It was just supposed to make y'all laugh. Um but when I watched it, somebody sent it to me. And I'm serious, like, you know how sometimes you get a spit take, like you just take a drink of something, and all of a sudden something catches you off guard? That's what happened with me on this video when this was sent to me.

SPEAKER_04

So that's not a nice question to ask in chat. What are we asking? I don't know what what are we talking about? What the hell is she talking? I didn't ask anything in chat.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what my mom's talking about there. Anyway. Um no, I don't want to dive into the Legos thing. It's too it's too big. I know it's a big story, and I don't wanna I don't wanna I want that to have its own if we get into that, I want that to be the the whole point, the whole episode. Because that's a big one. I know that's a big one. It's just like the the Carmelo thing. That's another big one. I don't want to go way down into that one. Um Ryan said, any chance you would invite defense or prosecution lawyers on the show. I've actually had both. Um, yeah, I I have no problem doing either. Um actually Von Kleem technically is a defense attorney uh and has been a prosecutor, so I had him on quite a bit, but oh oh fake it till you make it. Um but I have also had I had some actual prosecutors on. And like that's what they do, and it it was so it wasn't their fault. They were just they were overly cautious about what they said and that was on a pre-recorded video. That wasn't even doing it live. So I just didn't have a good I didn't have a good first impression or interaction with some prosecutors like active prosecutors because I I feel like they're so limited, they just won't they won't say anything. So I I'm not opposed to it. I just I gotta find the right ones. And I haven't honest I'll be honest, I haven't I haven't dug into it too hard. That's all that's all that is.

SPEAKER_04

Um but yeah, I wanna show Oh shit.

Surveillance Tech Gets Ridiculous

SPEAKER_04

Hold on a second. There we go. Let me go back. Let me share the screen.

SPEAKER_01

I love the I love the the LPR. I love the picture that the AI came up with for this. It's so good. Oh my god, I'm probably gonna laugh my ass off again. Uh alright. I'm gonna play it. Surveillance is getting out of hand, y'all. It's so good. I know I said it's a cop that I was copying. Oh my god, it's so stupid. Why? Why? Why? It's like, well, what were these IT kids just doing? Just uh FYI, the music that they had playing was genuine. Uh pony. And I I I didn't want to get copyright dinged by YouTube, so I had AI make that song, and it made it even better, in my opinion. I think I think the music that AI came up with was great. Oh shit. Every time I see that thing, I start crying, laughing. That shit is so funny. Anyway, uh, yeah, you guys notice it had a camera on its head. Um commonly, that's not exactly what an LPR camera looks like, but it could, they could look like that. Just depends on how you set it up. Uh Harrison said, You should get Kolian on the show. Yeah, Colleon and I talk. Like, I'm the dude's just so fucking busy. It's hard to get him. Um, I've been on his show three times, he hasn't been on mine once. And every time it's like, yeah, I'll come out. When are you gonna come do mine? He was like, I'll do yours next. And I'm like, all right, cool. And then we'll get it lined up, and then he's like, hey man, sorry. Uh you know, Beretta called me. I gotta fly over to Italy. I can't make it. I'm like, okay, cool. We'll get it when we get it. Uh he's not getting paid to come do mine, so I want to go make your money. Go do what you gotta do, brother. Craig's like, sex bots are the next new thing. I think they're already here, brother. Just depends on what you think of as a sex bot. Uh I'm pretty sure they've had those uh those pocket things and whatnot else. Lawful fact said, uh, wait till the accessories become available for that robot. Right? Oh. Too funny. I knew that would get you guys going. That shit. Oh my god. I mean it. When I seen that, I was caught off guard so bad. I mean, I couldn't breathe, y'all. I could not breathe. I don't get in those laughing fits too often. Almost every time I do it's with my wife. We're usually in bed, dude. Something stupid happens and we just lose our shit. You know, the whole breathless laughing. And that is what that one did to me. I was I and I immediately messaged, you know what? I'm gonna give them credit. I I can find out who I think I can find out who it was in my messages. I don't think it was that old. Um but holy shit, was it good?

SPEAKER_04

Um, was it wasn't him?

SPEAKER_01

I'm going through I guys, if you knew, I mean let me look. I got one, like this is seriously, I don't know if you guys can see us. This is one person. These are the videos. I I mean, I'm getting videos sent to me.

SPEAKER_04

This is the next person in line.

SPEAKER_01

Like I'm telling y'all, I get so many videos, so I hope y'all don't get upset when I don't if I don't acknowledge it or I don't I don't use it. It's just you're buried. You're buried in all of these these damn videos I get sent.

Send Better Clips With Context

SPEAKER_01

Um and I'm not complaining. I it it definitely makes life easier for me. I don't have to go hunting as much. Uh damn it. I swear, I'm looking for the person that sent that to me. I just I'm not finding him. There's so many to go through. Was it Uncle Travis?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Dang it. Of course. The one time I want to give credit to somebody, the one you guys sent me the most recently was um oh, it was Steve. Uh the social DJ. I found it. He sent that shit to me. Uh and I said, Oh, I'm a hundred percent doing something with this. And he said, I can't wait. So yeah, I get so many videos. Uh Mr. Billfold has my phone number, so I get a lot from him too. You know, and and a lot of you guys want to send me, it's bad enough getting as many Instagram shorts and reels as I get. But some of y'all send me like 20-minute, 30-minute, hour-long videos. Like, I'm gonna be able to get through that. You don't give me any context, you don't give me any marker, nothing. You're just like, check this one out. This is crazy. And I'm like, oh, I can't. I don't, I don't have the time. The longer videos is less likely I'm gonna be able to check it out unless you can give me like give me points. Let me know what the hell this video is about, what what I need to know about it. Like, help me help y'all. I can I can do more when I'm informed. Um country girl said, Yeah, we're the little people now. Country girl, you'll never be one of my little people. You always you'll always be one of my my OGs. A lot of OGs in here. Let's see, just in the chat tonight for OGs. We got Harrison, we got Country Girl, Freeman, uh, Ryan, Andy, um, let's see, Jerry, Tim, uh, who's uh I know I saw Steve in the chat. Steve Wallace. I know he was out there, obviously Marine Blood. Um Oh, I didn't see this one. You guys didn't tell me there was a a grumpy one in there.

Pushing Back On “Most Cops” Claims

SPEAKER_01

Most cops are psychopaths and domestic terrorists enforcing their egos.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think that's true. Um I I always question when people say most.

SPEAKER_01

Or always or never. Any of that. Where you're where are you getting that from? And here's how here's here's how I go down that logical path with people. When I try this is how I can tell if somebody's going to be genuine or if they're going to be disingenuous uh disingenuous about this topic. So um when I'll question like, what do you mean most? Do you mean the stuff you see online? Which that doesn't when we start talking about the stuff we see online, like that also has its own skew. Like, are you watching videos from this year? Are you just watching videos from this year only? Or are you pulling, are you, is your brain accumulating things you've seen from all different years? Because you know how videos will cycle through, go up, you know, it happened two years ago and it it goes viral for a little bit, then it fades away, but then usually around a year later it comes back because it starts popping up on people's algorithms. Um, so so there's that aspect. And then I ask people, I want, I don't, I don't want you going off other people's experience. I want you to tell me your personal experience with police, and then that's where the rub really starts to happen. What's your personal experience? Like, how many cops have you really run into in your lifetime? Because there's, I don't know, roughly a million cops. We'll say there's a million cops out there. How often do you trap? Most people stay pretty close to home. So now we're just we're really localizing police. So you you're around, you know, most agencies have 10 or less cops, maybe 20 or less cops. How many cops are you really exposed to in your personal life? Now, some people generally have some fucked up stuff that's happened with police in them. Um, Mr. Billfold can, you know, he's one that we sat down and talked about his whole story. So there's people that have some shit experiences, but even guys like Billfold will tell you like, I've I I had my bad experience with these cops, but I'm not gonna hold all these other cops to that same accountability or standard because they weren't there. That's not the ones that were messing with me. So that's where I really tend to push back on the most cops this, most cops that. I don't like that. I don't like that type of language because you you just you're you're not being honest. Now, if you start off with all the cops I've experienced, that's a good conversation to start having. I like that. Um like Harrison, where Harrison's at. Harrison of most most people on here, like he's got a lot that he could say about cops where he's at, because they're getting busted left and right out in his neck of the woods. There's a lot of shit coming to light out in uh is it Kentucky Harrison or is it Tennessee? I get the two backwards all the time. Oh, he wrote it. I said partly true for Kentucky troopers. See, yeah, yeah. So but again, it's it's and it's backed up. Like this is current stuff that's going on with with what's going out in Kentucky. Um Steve said, I know you don't do cigarettes, but do you do cigars?

Why He Refuses To Smoke

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't I don't smoke anything, brother. I I got really drunk um in the Caribbean. I think we were at the Dominican, actually. And I was out with my wife. Uh my wife, I said that like Borat. Um, I was out with my wife. I was out with my my cousin, who's like my best friend growing up and his wife, and then a childhood friend of ours and his wife. It was an awesome vacation. We had a great time. Um, very inexpensive, too. That was the cool part. Super inexpensive, really cool vacation. And they wanted to go get cigars, and I was like, I'm gonna do it because I was drunk. I was like, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna smoke my first cigar. And even in my fogginess, I chickened out. I couldn't do it. I just can't, I cannot bring myself to smoke anything. So, long story short, uh what did they say? Short story long. No, I do not smoke cigars. I'm I'm scared to. I don't know why. I think for the longest time I was just so put off by smoking. And anybody that's uh a child of the the 80s like me, I swear they scared the shit out of you about smoking growing up. Like, I just I'm never, I won't smoke. I hate being around it. Hell, ask my mom. I hate she's a smoker. I don't visit her house. I don't go over there. I don't like to smoke. My I like once I got out of that environment uh as a kid, because my you know, everybody smoked in my mom's generation, and I just can't get back into it. Uh my mother-in-law that lives with us, she smokes, but I make her ass go outside. You're gonna smoke, you're gonna smoke over there in an area that I probably won't visit much. So um, Mark Daughtry said, When you die, aliens use a wormhole to pull your soul up to the moon, which is a Dyson sphere, also known as the Great White Throne of Judgment. Holy shit! I never knew that, Mark. I appreciate you uh dropping some knowledge on us, brother. Uh oh my god, this is gonna be a fun night. I can see this already. We've got some crazy comments going on. Uh Andy. Uh-oh. Andy's getting Andy's getting feisty. He said, do not start. Is he talking about smoking? Or I thought he was talking to somebody in the comments. Uh he goes, if if you do quit. Yeah, I I have no intentions. No intentions. Yeah, Harrison says, I won't date a woman that smokes. And he said he's on a oxygen leash for life, see?