Morning Chat

You can feel it right away: I’m running on “couldn’t sleep” energy, and we end up having one of those raw, wide-ranging morning talks that only happens when the chat is fully engaged. We start with the reality of being an active-duty police officer who also runs a public show. That means balancing honesty with the constraints of representing a profession where one bad clip can cost you your career. From there, we get into what “fair and balanced” actually looks like when the topic is policing, public trust, and the way the uniform changes how people see you.

We dig deep into police accountability and oversight, including Internal Affairs and why IA can operate very differently in a small department versus a large agency. We talk about why “we investigated ourselves” became a punchline, what checks and balances can exist behind the scenes, and why healthy skepticism of government is always warranted. We also unpack the surge of YouTube demonetization hitting First Amendment auditor channels: the theories, the platform power dynamics, and why the free speech conversation gets complicated fast when money, pressure, and policy collide.

Then we go practical: use of force and de-escalation, the danger of hesitation during an arrest, and what it really means when a suspect tightens up and stops complying. We also tackle ALPR license plate readers, Flock cameras, and real-time policing tech, including the privacy fears and the case for strict auditing as a way to catch misuse at scale. Body cameras, mute buttons, public records laws, and everyday “power flex” behaviors round out a conversation aimed at one goal: better policing through clearer standards and real accountability.

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Disclaimers And Ground Rules

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to 2 Cops 1 Donut. I'm your host, Sergeant Eric Levine. Before we get started, here's a quick disclaimer. The views and opinions you're about to hear are those of the hosts and guests alone. They don't represent any police department, agency, sponsor, or employer. 2 Cops One Donut isn't responsible for anything said by guests or for any videos, clips, or content shown during the live stream. This show is intended for adult audiences only. We cover real incidents, we show graphic and sometimes disturbing footage, and we don't shy away from strong language or adult conversations. There may or may not also be alcohol involved. Viewer discretion is strongly advised. Everything you hear or see on the show is for entertainment and educational purposes. It is not legal advice and it's not tactical instruction. And it shouldn't be used for such. By continuing to watch, you're telling us that you understand, you accept all of this. All right, now let's get into it.

Late Night Scrolling Goes Live

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Sergeant Eric Levine here. Two cops, one donut. And I work nights. I shouldn't be awake right now. Couldn't sleep. I was bored. Started scrolling in bed. I'm sure you guys can relate. You wake up, you're like, uh, what time is it? Rolled over, looked at the clock. Like, all right, let me try to go back to sleep. Couldn't do it. I was like, you know what? Let's fucking get on and go chat with people and see what's going down. I see uh no boot lickers allowed. Great name. Um, yeah. No boot liquors. Let's let's just talk about that that title. I'm gonna put your name up here, no bootlickers. Um it is a term that offends cops very quickly. And I just look at it as a term that should remind you that don't follow blindly. I think there's there's some some real truth behind the name. So uh just just uh take things for what they are, don't don't look too deep into things. Um, I appreciate your fair and balanced opinion on your content. Thank you very much. Uh it is this is not supposed to be a woe is me story, but I can tell you right now, I sure as hell get beat up for being on the fence about things. Um and that's something that y'all may or may not understand about what I do is being an active cop. Like I can't, like I can't do like what Dominic Izzo does some all the time. Like Dom's a friend of mine, but I can't talk like he talks. Even if I feel that way about certain things, I can't do that because if I make my department look bad, I get fired. So that is one of the it's one of the caveats to doing what I do is I I like to be fair and balanced and try to do that stuff. But at the same time, even when I am passionate about a certain thing, like I have to be reserved. So I just hope people can understand that. Uh K Palm said, from doom sculling to just going live, love it. Yeah, I literally I rolled out of bed and like I I some sometimes I sometimes I do my hair at work, sometimes I don't. Like, this is yesterday hair. Uh I had put too much gel in, so it it didn't, it didn't freaking move when I fell asleep, I guess. I woke up and goes, I don't have to do my hair this morning. Um yeah, I'm gross. We're try to act like we're we're not all gross. Uh no boot liquors allowed said I agree. That's why I watch your channel. Thank you. Hey, no worries, brother.

Being A Bridge With The Community

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Um and if you are new to what we do, you know, the the the purpose of the show when I started out was I was like, uh I'm gonna be that I'm gonna be that bridge between the the police and the community. I'm gonna teach the community from a cop's perspective. Now, don't get me wrong, I feel like I've done that or I've been doing that, but it actually kind of worked out differently than I anticipated. I actually learned more from the community uh through this channel on things that I was grossly ignorant about. Um one of the best ones that I can give an example on is um First Amendment auditors. Like I wouldn't say that I disliked First Amendment auditors when I first started, but I didn't understand it either. I knew cops were messing it up. Not they were messing up like trying to force people to ID and stuff like that. But what I didn't see was this gross sweeping thing across the nation of uh cops just not understanding, you know, basic rights, understanding the constitution. And like I kept seeing video after video that people were sending me, like, you need to wake up, you need to wake up. And I did wake up. I was like, oh shit, they're not wrong. You know, I kind of had that mindset of 99.9% of cops are out there always doing the right thing. It's not true. Um, I don't think there's uh a bunch of malicious cops intentionally doing the wrong thing, but I do think there's a lot of grossly mistrained police, and we are screwing up basic things all the time, like little things, like cops, you don't look at it as a big deal, but to a person that never has to deal with cops that often, and you're infringing on their rights, it is a big deal. We get we get complacent and we get used to it because we deal with it every single day, and everybody else, they it's very rare that somebody has to deal with the cops. So just things that I've learned over uh over the yeah, Trevor, Trevor, I another thing I've learned is a lot of like I learned the word copaganda, I learned pignorance, uh being pignorant, um, a lot of these things. I love it. Some of these words crack me up. Trevor, he's he's busting my balls on here. He said, hey, bipignorant is an epidemic among law enforcement. So Lacey's in the chat, our guy's in the chat. We need to get our guys an official mod. Uh our guy is a big name in the mod world, just not for cop channels. Uh, I would love to get our guy involved with what we do. It it really does help keep us well rounded. And our guy's probably listening to this like, what the fuck did I do? I don't don't involve me in your shit. Yes, I stole one of my daughter's Alani's. I'm out of C4s and I'm out of gorilla mind. So this is cotton candy. It's it's it tastes exactly like the can looks. I needed something and I wasn't in the mood for coffee. Lacey's in the house. What's going on, Lacey? Um, Tyrese Rogers said, Adam Walsh song playing in Subaru WRX. Hey man, I had two WRXs. I had um the original or the regular WRX, and I had an STI. Still missed that car, by the way. The only reason I got rid of it was because my kiddos were getting into uh fishing and kayaking, so I needed something that could could do it. My nose is a little plugged, I apologize. Um, our guy said I'd be happy. Uh-oh, we got to get you on. I don't think any of our mods are on right now. Nobody expected me to be on, so it's not their fault. Um, I just kind of keep my mods on their toes because I just jump on and start doing shit. And they're like, what the fuck? They get a notification that we're live and I get a message, and they're like, Are you live? Does somebody hack your shit? Nope, nope, we're live. Um Frederick Brodel over on Instagram saying good morning from Germany. That is always humbling to see. You guys would not believe we've got about 500,000 followers across all of our platforms, which is really cool. But you would not believe the overseas presence of part of that community. A lot in the UK, a lot in Australia, um, quite a few out in Germany, and then some, you know, a bunch of various other countries, Greenland, Finland, um, Iceland. That was kind of a, you know, I think we've got a little presence in Iceland, which is kind of cool. Um, I'm going to assume a lot of them are like maybe military guys that either know me or word of mouth through the military, because I just can't see people from uh overseas giving a shit about a cop from America. Maybe I'm wrong. I I will say they're the UK cops, they love the um, so you think cops do it better in other countries videos that we do. Um, Isaiah Okanis, I think I'm saying that right, uh, said good morning from Texas. Um

Internal Affairs And Real Accountability

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Trevor's saying, I would seriously like to know your take on the IA issue. IA operates as a shield from accountability as it stands. I don't think that that's necessarily true. It depends. Now, you see IA at small departments, you tend to see things get glossed over more. IA at big departments in in my experience have rent they run much different. I've I've been neglecting getting an IA person on. I really need to get one. Um hold on one second.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

I gotta mute this. Sorry, I had to cough.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Um I really do need to get an IA person on to explain more on how they are kept in check internally. Because I know what everybody says. We investigate ourselves and we found nothing wrong. And there's been many cases where that's been true, right? So to his point, um to Trevor's point, that is it's happened. So that concern is is is valid. But at the same time, like the department that I'm at, obviously I can't talk about where I work, but uh IA runs way different than I ever expected or thought. There's there's things in place that let's okay, think let's go down this line logically. I work at a department with 2,000 cops. I don't know everybody. There's cops I see, and I'm like, who the fuck's that guy? I don't never seen him. Uh so that happens all the time. I I know I know a few hundred of the 2,000 that I work with. So with that, first off, what are the odds going to be that somebody in IA is going to risk their career to protect me on some bullshit? Okay. So let's say I did something egregious. Let's say I um excessive use of force, okay, which is bordering on that's a bordering on a criminal offense. And and there's a whole other aspect of a criminal offense. IA deals with administrative issues. Um SIU, they deal with uh special investigation units, they they they deal with, then they may be called something different in your department, but they deal with criminal issues that cops deal that do. Um so but with IA, let's say I did some excessive use of force thing and it's bordering non-criminal, but it's right now it's just an administrative thing. What benefit would it be for them to cover up for me if their ass is on the line and they don't know me? So that's kind of why I say at a bigger department. One, it's much more rare for them to do the we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong. Um not to say it doesn't happen, but that is that's one way I look at it. Like I I'm telling you right now, even for me, I'm not risking my family and all that shit for this thin blue line. Like that is that's not a thing where I'm at, not that I've seen. I'm not gonna cover up for somebody and risk my family on some bullshit that you may or may not have done. Um so the thin blue line, they don't have to know you. That's and and I'm again, I'm not saying this not hasn't been true in the past. It definitely has probably happened. Not that I've witnessed, but have definitely read about. Um, but it it comes down to what is those checks and balances? I I've only heard about them in passing, so I can't talk about them in a way that would sound educated. I just know that they have certain checks and balances in place where I'm at that prevents uh severely uh inhibits them from trying to do anything like that, because then they'd be risking their own ass. Um and I'm not risking going to prison. I'm not risking my career over some bullshit. So that's really the only way I can talk about it somewhat intelligently right now. And I know that probably didn't sound I'm I'm waking up, so it didn't even sound intelligent to me.

Take Home Cars And Policy Reality

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Uh so um, Eric, uh, at your department, what percentage of patrol officers have take home units? None. Um I'm asking because there's a local marked police unit that drops their child off at elementary school PK2, um, pre-K through two. Um I'm a big fan of take-home cars. I wish that was more of a thing. Um there's rules that govern it, but I I I am uh and I'm not trying to switch topics here. I'm not done with the IA thing, but um I'll tell you why I'm a big fan of take-home cars in a second. But let me let me let me top off Trevor here. Um, Trevor, uh, I will get an IA person on, I promise. I've actually talked to a couple of our IA people and they've agreed, we just haven't linked up to do it. So I want to get some of our IA guys on and and really go down the rabbit hole of what prevents it. What's how do we know that you're you're doing it right? Because those are important questions, and the only way to build up that confidence is by having those discussions and knowing. But um obviously have a skeptical, have a skeptical mind always. I, you know, end of the day, we're the government. And that's something that I have to constantly remind other cops of like, bro, like you know, even talking about the ALPR stuff, cops they're like, oh, we're doing the right thing with these, you know. I don't understand. Like, like, bro, you gotta understand it isn't you they're attacking, it's that uniform. They they they don't trust that uniform. So um looking over at the TikToks, I see uh Majin Stitch said, I feel the same about needing something that isn't coffee. It's 6 40 a.m. for me, and I'm having a beer. Love it. Uh very funny. Good morning from Cedar City, Utah, sir. That's pretty cool. Our local cops are dipsticks, says Tavarian. Um, but okay, let me let me get uh let me get over to the the idea about oh, and yeah, the demonetization. Yeah, we definitely I've already talked to Sean on on the cell phone. Um, I sound like old dude right there. I talked to the friend on the cell phones. Uh I I did me and Sean were texting back and forth trying to find out if he had gotten demonetized because I heard a bunch of auditors did. So anyway, um spicy noodles night he said. Also, do you have a soul? Not me. Um, I think I have a soul. I don't know. My best guess is I do. Uh, energy cannot be created nor destroyed, right? So with take home cars, follow follow me with this logic. Typically, with a take-home car, it's your baby. It's your car. So if anything goes wrong with it, typically when you have a take-home car, the department puts a little bit more onus on the the person that it's um assigned to. So that car will get taken, it will have better care taken of it. Um, two, it gas mileage and maintenance goes way down uh because it's a take-home car. It's not being just run 24-7. Um, so it lasts longer for the tax money that's put into it. Um and then there's policies that that guide it. Like me, I have a take-home car. Uh, it's not a marked vehicle, it's an unmarked vehicle. Um, and I've got like I can do things to and from work. So when we were talking about as long as it's um on the way, I should put it that way. Um, so and if it's anything egregious, I'll call my lieutenant and be like, hey, I gotta go to work, but I got a dentist appointment, and my dentist appointment is um, you know, across town or whatever. So I'll call and get permission from my lieutenant and be like, hey, I'm gonna go to my dentist appointment in uniform and then go right from there to work. And then my my lieutenant will approve it or not approve it. More often than not, they're gonna approve it. Um, so you can do things like that. Uh otherwise, um you end up having, you know, it's just it's a give and take. The benefits far far outweigh um the negatives. So it um and then Prince Azul said uh or pr Simpi. Persimpi, Azul said, bonus if you don't crash, yes, exactly. Um but yeah, I I I'm a fan of take-home vehicles. I think I think the the data shows that it's actually better, but like like I said, where I'm at, you're not taking patrol guys, aren't taking a car home. That just doesn't, it's not happening. You gotta be in a specialized unit, and even then doesn't guarantee you're gonna be able to have a take-home car. And there's all these rules that you gotta follow, and you gotta sign um, you know, liabilities, things, stuff like that. So Treverian said, I do park security for our local municipality, and our local cops are lazy. Hey man, it's any job. It ain't just it ain't just cops. You got you got your 10%ers, which are the the driving force, you got your bulk, which are just do the bare minimum. That doesn't make them lazy. They just, and then then you got a percentage that are, you know, the slugs, and that's that's that's police work. That's anything. Um like that local cop is 30 miles outside of his city. Now, see, yeah, if you're 30 miles outside the city, just depends on the permissions that you have. Like SWAT guys, I don't I I don't know what that guy does. Um, and if it's if if they have a 50-mile rule where a lot of departments have, or larger cities have that, where you can't live up to 50 miles outside of the city, that may be what they fall under. So um, but to get to it's me,

Auditor Demonitization And Who Controls YouTube

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Dr. Drew, uh, YouTube monetized, demonetized Long Island. Do you want to give your feedback on this? It's fucking bullshit. Um, so I reached out to Sean to find out. I didn't know he had, he must have had just posted a video because he I saw the link afterwards that he sent me. But he got demonetized and a whole laundry list of all of my favorites got demonetized. So he is theorizing that it has something to do with police unions. I can't, I can't say yay or nay on that. I don't know how you would use it. Listen, guys, I don't even know how you get a hold of YouTube. How do you have an influence over YouTube? Where are they? This is how I would start breaking that down. Like, how do you find out YouTube CEO? I who's the YouTube CEO? I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't know. I'm not saying that that's a bad theory, especially given what that um that union president had said about getting them taken off of YouTube. But I don't know, what are the odds? I don't know. Either way, my point being is I think that it was looked at with a very, very narrow point of view to take them and demonetize them simply because you don't like what they're doing and you don't share the same opinion. End of the day, you're you're limiting freedom of speech. And you're limiting capitalism, which is what this nation's founded on. The two two things were founded on. You're you're taking both of them away simply because you have the opposite opinion of what they have. I have still yet to this day found a single First Amendment auditor that has attacked a cop. If you guys can show me the case, I I'll I'll walk back on that, but I haven't seen a single one yet. So, oh man, K Pom said they demonstrated. Monetize Jeff Gray. He doesn't even talk. Jeff Gray didn't even say anything. That's crazy. I look at it as an attack on the First Amendment. Um, and I know what it's not a bad argument. You you have no right to be monetized. That's fair. I get it. Again, it's a capitalist world. But at the same time, if there was some government involvement about silencing, if if there's any merit to that theory, then that's a big deal. That is a big deal. Um let me see here. You could ask around and find out what's being said within the law enforcement community. I could. I I don't know who to ask, I'll be honest. Um I can look around, uh, talk to a couple people that may have some inkling. I don't know. I don't know fucking shit all for cops in New York. I don't, you know what? Let's let's let's do a little investigating. I'm gonna I'm gonna jump on the chattist of GPTs and uh I'm gonna start a new chat here, and I'm gonna say, who is the CEO of YouTube and where is their headquarters? If it's in New York, there's gonna be a lot more to we're doing a live investigation, y'all. There is going to be a lot more to this. Now I have the pro version and I think I have it set on the highest setting right now, so it may take a minute. So we're gonna keep talking, and I'll let you guys know when this thing pops up here. Um just to show you. Share screen. Just to show you. She's a working. She's a working, so I got it going. But uh I'll when that thing gets done, we'll we'll talk about it. Um CEO Neil Mohan. You okay, cool. And then I'll find out. Um, it's awful, it's awfully early to see you, Eric. I know, I'm I'm looking rough. Sorry. Tim Kripe, good morning from Indiana. What's up, Tim? Looking over at Instagram, or I'm sorry, at the TikToks. Uh if you're on TikTok or Instagram, I'm I apologize. It's harder for me to see your chat. Uh, the best spot for me to see your chats over on YouTube. There's a video from the police union rep that got a lot of attention. That's from Chief Steele. Uh, people are getting paid to antagonize the police. Yeah, I saw that. And and I and I think that's where he's getting his theory from. And again, and that's why I'm saying it's not terrible. It's not a baseless theory. It's just based on that comment. But uh Jeff Gray. Oh, uh, are you asking? Did Jeff Gray get demonetized too? My bad. Okay, he did not. That's good. Save one of them at least. You can audit police without intentionally trying to get a negative reaction. Very true. I and I've come on here before and said, like, I I love my First Amendment auditors. There's some that do it in a manner that I don't care for. Um, and I won't, I won't um share their stuff simply because I don't like the way they do it, but just because I don't like it doesn't mean they don't have the right to. Um their rights, you know, aren't trumped by my feelings. And they know it there's I think there are some bad motivated First Amendment honors. I don't think that they're doing it for the right reasons, and I think by them demonetizing a bunch of these guys, you'll see who really is in it for the right reasons versus those that aren't. Um, and it's it's just my opinion that it's not the right reasons. It doesn't make me right. So um, Trevor said, funny, they think taking away the money will stop the behavior. This was never about money. Yeah, and so it kind of goes to my point. For the ones I think that we like, it it wasn't about the money, but I think you're gonna see some. They're gonna they're gonna try to front for a little bit and see if they can keep their followers up, but I think uh I think you're gonna see some drop off because they're not getting paid. Now, uh Long Island, he pivoted fast. He he's gone over to um what the fuck's it called? I almost said Pentagon. That's not what it's called. What the fuck is it called? Patreon. He went to Patreon. Pentagon. Okay, so YouTube, it's not done looking. Oh no, it is done looking. Uh you're right, Neil Mohan. Um, he's led since February 2023, remains a CEO, and they are headquartered in San Bruno, California. So that that that's a far reach for a New York person. Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Um HYO was on Leah's list. What's HYO?

SPEAKER_01 27:22

What are we talking about? Okay, thanks, Lacey. I thought I saw HYO in Leah's video yesterday, so I wasn't sure. Um the police get paid to antagonize us. I don't see the problem if people get paid to antagonize them. Uh come on now, be fair. Uh they are not being paid, but YouTube is still placing ads on their content. Oh. That's a that's a is that something that you can sue for? I don't know. Um well you can sue for anything, can't you? Oh, honor your oath. I'm an idiot. Yeah, you're right. So what I'm I was trying to get lined up is I was trying to get, I got Sean agreed for Sunday. I wanted to get him on. Uh, I'm trying to get clearly established on, and then I was going to ask some of the guys from Anti-Hero, like Copville and Tyler. And I wanted to get kind of a melding of the minds, if you will, because you've got me who's, you know, kind of sits in the middle on everything. Um, so I just was going to host the conversation between a legal expert, like clearly established, what Long Island's going through, and then have Cotville and Tyler, who have since left law enforcement and can speak from a totally different position than what I'm allowed to speak. Um, so I and they they generally it's kind of funny because Cotville was named Mike and then Tyler, uh, who started Antihero. They they bump heads on a lot of topics, and I I don't know their stance on First Amendment audits, but I feel like they have gone, they've bumped heads on that particular subject, if I remember correctly. So I think it would make for a great show to have a good conversation, and then get all y'all knuckleheads involved in that conversation too. So um I think it'd be fun. Um, Chief Steel said, can't sue them, it's their platform. Uh maybe. I don't know. I think you I think you would have a valid if you're monetizing off of my content, even though you're the host of that platform, it's no different than if I own a billboard and I just start putting your shit up on my billboard. Is it not? Well, I guess that's kind of wrong. No, that's bad logic. Trying to figure a way to sorry. I don't have a good argument. He goes, I'm sure it's in the fine print. Yeah, you're probably not wrong. Uh auto has not been demonetized yet. That's good. Should try to get Lou, the PBA president, on. Yeah, that dude's not gonna go on my show. I'm not, I'm not opposed to it, but he wouldn't do it. That would mean he'd have to make decisions on the fly. This is part of the thing, guys. You're gonna you're gonna see this with a lot. I want to take a drink. Hold on. You're gonna see this with a lot of cops that like to talk shit in the comments. They won't do it live. Why won't they do it live? Because they can't think that fast. It's where I fuck them up when they start getting on that shit. So you gotta be able to, if you're really about that life and you think you know your stuff, it then you should be able to have those live discussions. But if you're not, you'll see. They they and it's the same with the trolls. I'll get trolls that come on and talk shit, and I'll be like, you guys know my style. A lot of anti-cop rhetoric comes from some sort of personal experience. I just need to get to that source so I can start getting a real conversation out of trolls. And I've managed to do that over and over again on live streams to where I've you've seen the trolls in the comments, and and now some of them are like advocates of the show because we we didn't just try to boot them out or block them for trolling. We we got to the the root of the issue. And so I I've tried to do that with cops that you know just blow the blue, as I like to put it, and try to see like, like, what are you where is this coming from that you don't want to hear from anything that thinks differently than you? Like, let's get to that source, and then you start talking to them, and you find out they end up agreeing with a lot more than they thought they would. So Lou and Brian Fehey. Yeah, uh that would be interesting to get those guys on. Fey would not like what I have to say, so I doubt he'd that dude does not like opposing opinions from what I've seen. Uh, Chief Steele said I was demonetized on TikTok after I had a video hit 11 million views. Holy shit. I've not I have had zero luck with TikTok. I've been, guys, I've I started every single platform except for Rumble and Clapper on the same day. So I started all these platforms five years ago. Instagram is at roughly 162,000, which is great. Um I've got you know almost 200,000 on Facebook. That's amazing. Um, YouTube is at like 25,000, which that's a hard one to grow. YouTube is is notoriously harder unless you have a really viral video. So I'm very happy with the steady growth on YouTube. However, TikTok hates me. I I have only recently reached, um, I don't know why. Let me look 28,000 in five and a half years on there. That is that is crazy because it's the same content on the same type of platform as TikTok and or I'm sorry, as Instagram and Facebook. Even Clapper, Clapper is like at 80,000. And I've only had that a couple years. So like the content is working. It it's not the content, it's the platform. So TikTok just does not. I I get 600 to 1000 views on everything on TikTok, and everything else is like 30,000 or more, is the general average. So I don't know. Growing is not consistent across everything. Lacey said, invite him anyway. Lou the shit is lying about cop watchers in every interview. Um, no boot lickers allowed. I was pulled over in Ohio. I live in Tennessee, but now but I have my toes amputated, and they tried to get me to do a field sobriety test that has to deal with balance, and the cop said he would take it into you would take it into consideration that my toes were amputated and I'm off balance. When I did a balance test, but I didn't do it, I refused. Yeah, if you don't have any toes, that would be that would be a medical factor that you know I would be like, all right, I'm not doing field sobriety on this guy. Um the bubble police live in is very strong bubble. Yeah. Some of them it is 100%. Um I was in it. I was in that bubble. Not not intentionally. Uh again, the whole purpose that I became a cop is because I didn't like cops. Um, but in my training and learning and everything, I was like, you know, 99.9% of us are out there doing the right thing. It's just 0.1% that keep giving us a bad name. Ah, it's worse than that. It is worse than that. But I still think the bulk of cops are out there trying to do the right thing. But there's and and and I try to share all the great examples that I can find. Just people don't share good stuff. They only share bad because it gets clicks. So it is what it is. But that's my experience. It doesn't mean my experience is right. People too often try to push their experiences, though that is what it is. And I think that's the tough conversation for everybody is when somebody pushes back against their experience, they can't admit that if it's their fishbowl that they're living through. And my favorite is the the ones that all cops are bad. And I'm like, all right, tell me about your bad experience. And they're like, I just seen a lot of videos. I'm like, oh, so you've got zero personal experience with bad cops, but all cops are bad. Make that make sense to me. Guys, you know me. I'm a I'm I'm still kind of a numbers guy on certain things. 350 million calls for service a year. If even if you're getting a few thousand bad videos a year, that is a very, very, I don't even know if that's 1%. So um, if only 1% of cops are bad, but 99% of cops protect them, then 1%. No, that's failed, flawed logic, sir. That's not true. That's a that we've talked about that on here before. That's it's just terrible logic. Doesn't work that way. Um just because you don't see the cop do something immediately does not mean that they didn't do something after the fact. So there's that. Um, what's up, Nick the gun guy? See he's on. Uh no bootlicker said, as they say, one bad apple spoils the bunch. Yeah, one bad apple does make the the rest look bad. So just the way it is. Um, you can make a hundred great deposits with the community, and that one bad one takes every single hundred back. Um, Chief Steele said, I've had bad experiences with cops. Unfortunately, they were cops I worked with. Yeah. Yep. That's why uh, if you guys listen to any of the anti-hero stuff, they'll let you know that it the thin blue line that you think exists isn't quite what you think. Police do uh all notoriously around the country eat their own. And not not for covering up things, but just, I mean, anything, political, political motivations internally within the department. Uh, lawful act said cops turn in bad behavior, cops all the time. Number one source for complaints for my agency is internal. Yeah. Well, and that's another thing that a lot of people don't see is there's cops fired and charged every every week across the nation. And you just don't hear about it. Why? Because the media doesn't cover cops doing their job. They don't give a shit about that. They like the juicy stuff when they're not or when it's controversial that they're not. Um, that's when you hear about it. Uh, did you know? Did you did you all know Sean Grayson passed away? If for those that aren't familiar with who Sean Grayson is, he's the asshole that shot Sonia Massey. Um, he had stage four butt cancer, I think. And uh he tried to get released early so he could die in peace. And then the judge said, Nope. So he died in prison. Nick the gun guy said, Eric, thank you for what you do and the educating the masses wish people people would wake up. Thank you. Appreciate that, sir. Um Nick the Gun guy also said people need to let the system do the job and stop jumping on the conclusion. That's why IA and the chain of command are for woke ideas are ruining the job and people are getting railroaded. It's a thankless job. It's uh there's two sides to every coin, Nick. So, you know, there's there's people that are getting railroaded by cops. So the public has um, they have a right or they have a cause to speak about as well. So it's just it's it's so hard for people to want to look at things on a case-by-case basis. They want to lump, you know, and generalize. And I've been guilty of it myself. There's so much police stuff out there. Bad cop videos. I've I the guys send them to me every day. That's what I make my reaction videos on. I make reaction videos on the good cop stuff that you guys send me as well. But we tend to let all those bad examples give us a you know, vague blanket that that's that that's just all police. That's not true. Like just judge things on a case-by-case basis. Um, Trevor said, You said a few times the thin blue line isn't what you think. Stick with that. What do we think, and what are we missing? Um well, what you're missing is exactly what I was talking about earlier. People are not going to cover up for, especially for a cop they don't know. I'm not gonna cover up for somebody I don't know. I would like to think I'm not gonna cover up for anybody, period. You know? Um, but that is like a like again, these super large departments like mine. Like, I know a few hundred of the 2,000 cops. I didn't if you were to show me them not in uniform, I wouldn't probably never be able to tell you that they even work at the same department as me. Covering up for that person. Um so the the the odds just go way down. And and now you're you're thinking that there's some sort of loyalty that would trump my family. You know, is it's is it fair to say that a lot of cops probably have a a a wife and kids or a husband and kids? I would say it's probably the bulk of them. And you think I'm gonna cover up and potentially go to prison for them for you? Why would I do that? Doesn't make any sense, it doesn't make any sense to me. But again, it's not to say that it hasn't happened. I know it has, we know it has, but the the the the rampant way that you think, no. And and the the dog eat dog uh of the politics in a in a in a bigger department as well. Everybody's trying to get above each other. You want to see a department that is going to be more susceptible to corruption internally, eating each other, is a department that doesn't have a good retirement program where you have to rank up to have a decent retirement. That's going to be a bad department uh as far as eating each other. Um let me see. I agree, and it sucks. Needs to go back to facts over feelings 100%. Just because you don't like how someone exercises their freedom of speech today doesn't mean that their rights are diminished, agreed. Remember that the same standard used to silence them today can be used to silence you tomorrow. Fair. Uh no bootlickers allowed, said it's the algorithm on YouTube. Yeah, and we tend to put our own algorithms into place. That's why mine are all over the fucking place. I get all the bad cop stuff, but I also get like Doberman's doing funny shit and a bunch of science uh stuff. I I like all the latest breakthroughs in AI and and and tech tech breakthroughs. So that's kind of the stuff I follow. A lot of Dragon Ball Z stuff, Dragon Ball Super. My my algorithms are so random. Uh fear of progression with you in your chosen profession. That's what it is. Not loyalty to a friend. That's possible as well. You know, if you're getting some sort of pressure. That's why I said it's it's so nuanced. It's not it's not black and white like everybody's trying to play like. It's not black and white. It's the best way to say it's just very nuanced. And for those that that try to act as though it's just this black and white, it's just doing a blue line. Like, no, you are grossly being disingenuous about it. Um is there a like button on TikTok or anything to help the channel? Uh I don't I think there is. I think there is. If you're over on TikTok, let me know. Uh, I think Chief Steele is over there, and I'm not sure if he's still on. Um, but I I don't I have invested so little time on TikTok over the years just because it doesn't love me back. I I don't know. If if they ever gave the mutual, I mean I I post content on it every day. And I try to respond to comments, but I don't know how to make it any better. Same goes for our Rumble. I don't even know if we're technically showing up on Rumble. Let me type a message testing Rumble. Uh see if I get a check mark. Facebook, YouTube. Oh yeah, Rumble's live, so um we don't get much love on Rumble either. But I post on Rumble just in case our YouTube ever gets taken down. You guys know the shit that I post is always bordering uh whether or not they're gonna let us stay on there. Um I have a video that I wanted to talk about.

Hesitation On Arrests And Use Of Force

SPEAKER_01 45:52

I'm going to bring it up right now. So you may have noticed I titled this thing about uh hesitation. So I've got this video up here.

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Uh let me make sure it's unmuted.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

And I'm going to preface this with I've talked about this before. Hesitation can get you hurt. Hesitation can get the bad guy hurt. Now, I've got a rule. If I tell you you're under arrest, this is a personal rule of mine. If I tell you you're under arrest and you even remotely pull back or tighten up, I am taking you to the ground faster than you can blink. And to some people, they think that that may be excessive or over the top. But there's a reason behind it. If you tighten up, or and again, it does depend on who you are. If you're an elderly lady or uh, you know, a young kid or something like that, I'm going to take that into consideration. But if you are between, I don't know, 16 all the way up to 55, maybe 60 male uh uh in somewhat decent size, you're going to the ground quick, fast, and in a hurry. And there's a reason behind that. I have learned that if I hem-haw around with you, if you resist, I'm like, all right, sir, don't be doing that. And I try to de-escalate, that will get me and that person in more trouble than if I just take them to the ground real quick and then start dealing with them from there. So um I am going to play this. I'm reading Lacey's Eric, two cops won't donate. You were searching for talk about the demonetization within law enforcement. Uh I was talking about um figuring out if there was motivation behind YouTube and a connection with New York. I didn't find one. They're out in California. So um, all right, so I'm gonna play this video.

SPEAKER_03 48:17

Hello, sir. Hi. Hello. Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and put your hands behind your back for me. Okay. Hey, stop. Listen, don't resist, okay? Just don't resist. Okay, okay. We'll tell you everything that's going on.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

We'll tell you everything that's going on. What did I do?

SPEAKER_01 48:30

So from right here, I can tell just from his body language, he's tensed up. I'm not playing that. You're going to the ground. I'm taking him down uh from this position, probably a front sweep down to their stomach, and that that's me. And then once I get them to the ground, I can move into a cuffing position, you know, assuming I got the drop on him. But the more you him haw around, the more the confidence builds up that you don't know what you're doing and that they have a possibility of getting away. Um so let's keep watching.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

We're doing an investigation, okay?

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Don't tell us. Can I give you what I have? What do you have? Okay. Put your hands right back for me, okay.

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Put your hands behind your back.

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Put your hands right back.

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I would like to point out that these cops are all being very chill. They're still very calm demeanor. They're giving them very clear command, just put your hands behind your back. There's no punches, no force being used. They just took them to the ground. Um, give credit to police incidents on Instagram where we got that. Um so as you can see, this is my point about hesitation. Uh now, now ultimately, this is on the bad guy. I'm not trying to say that this is any, by any means, the police's fault, but the hesitation to take this guy to the ground and keep his hands under control is where this whole thing fell apart. And that's not to say they wouldn't have lost, excuse me, control of his hands once they took him to the ground. But the moment that dude tensed up to three uniformed officers that were telling him that he's going to be placed under arrest, put his hands behind his back, that's all the indicator I need that he's not going to cooperate. He's got to go to the ground. Had they taken him to the ground and kept control of those hands, perhaps we would have had a different outcome. So it also could have been much different that maybe he gets the gun out and he shoots one of the cops. Got lucky. Got lucky that it ended uh the way that it ended for the police. But at the same time, like this is where I'm trying to just instill in you that you there's a time for de-escalation and there's a time not to. And you'll you'll you learn it through experience, but when I've got three uniformed officers with you, and we tell you that you're under arrest and and you're trying to stall, delay, and tense up, like you gotta take that person to the ground. They gotta get there. Um Trevor says, natural to tense up when cops grab you, just like it's natural to cover your face when they are punching you. It is natural to punch your face or to punch your face. It's natural to punch your own face when people punch you. No, that's not what I meant. Um, it is natural to block your face. Yeah. And that is a problem with um with policing when we're using force is we're trying to give commands while we're doing things to the bad guy that makes it impossible for them to comply. However, they gave time. So I'm not, Trevor, I'm not buying that bullshit that it's natural to tense up. It's not natural to tense up for that long. And giving the explanation, put your hands behind your back, you're under arrest. Like, no, you don't get that. You're when the cops tell you you're under arrest, you're under arrest. There's the debate, and this is one of my issues with society, is that you're your argument is not with the police. Your argument's with the court. You have zero right to argue with the police over the fact of your arrest because it's not going to change it. If they've already told you you're under arrest, even if they don't put you in cuffs, you're under arrest. And a cop can't walk back from that. That's another thing to consider. If I point at you and say you're under arrest, and I had zero right to arrest you, I've already violated your rights. Doesn't matter if I physically put you in cuffs or not. I've already violated your rights, and you have something to stand on in court. So you don't get to sit there and talk it out. You've been told you're under arrest. I get you have a point on initially tensing up when anybody grabs you. And and that's where I'm like, you've got you've got a moment. You've got a moment to comply. But that guy knew what time it was. It ain't his first time going to jail. Uh he's already admitting to having a meth pipe. That meth pipe was a ploy, by the way. He was saying I have a meth pipe because he was hoping he could just hand that over and then make time to get rid of that gun. That's my speculation based on my experience. So um, but was more of a comment on your initial statement before the video about tensing up when a cop grabs you. Uh, it's a bit natural reading the intent. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Uh um Dunpeel said, but a lot of us don't have resources to fight in a legal arrest in court, as we all know the process is the punishment. That's that's true. That is that is a part of it. Um, but you tell me historically, has it does it has it benefited you more by fighting and resisting, even though you don't have the ability, or or is it made it worse? Because I guarantee it hasn't made it better. Um even if you manage to get away, let's say you don't hurt the cop, but you manage to get away, do you think that that made it better for you in the long run or worse? It's made it worse if we're gonna have an honest conversation. Um let me see. How and why do LEOs think that all people can just allow? Sorry, let me reread that. How and why do Elios think that all people can just allow people to assault them? Grabbing someone and handcuffing them is assault for fuck's sake. It's unnatural. It it is unnatural, but it is a part of the system that we have.

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It's not assault if it's lawful.

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So I don't think that anybody's claiming that it's natural. It isn't natural. But at the same time, we live in a civil society, air quotes, and our time to fight is in court. You don't you don't get to fight the police on especially on lawful arrests. Um you have every right to argue with the cops saying you're under arrest if in your house and no warrant. Okay. You have the right to appeal not going to heaven with Jesus when you're standing at the gates with St. Peter. Yeah, I mean, sure. That's not what that's not what the fuck we're talking about. I don't I don't understand your point. Will. Will cha I don't know how to say that whatever that second part is. Chachi. Uh that's not the point. We're not talking about an unlawful entry into your home uh to make an arrest with no warrant. We're not talking about that. I'm talking about a lawful arrest where uniformed officers have come up to you and told you you're under arrest. Um you can argue all day. You still have to comply. So that's that's really what it boils down to. Go ahead and argue. You can make all the arguments you want as long as you're listening to lawful commands. Um, no bootlickers allowed, said I agree. It makes it worse. That's why I comply and then take it up in court. Yeah. Do you know how much a judge will tear a cop apart, at least in my experience? When they see the cop being a dick on body cam and the person being nothing but polite, that makes a huge difference in court. Huge difference. Um vice versa. Something that is, let's say it's on the edge of not being lawful or lawful. Like it's one of those that's like I can't kind of tell. If the cop was super nice and you were an asshole, even that hurts you in court. Um it's funny how quickly officers will charge you with assault on an officer, but the same actions that by the officer, but the same actions done by the officer will not consider assault. Uh Leah is getting spit on, is a good case study for yeah. I know. Yeah, that is uh that one is crazy to me. That that is a hundred percent assault. And even to his own words, so I'm very curious how that one's going to play out. Is that's not finished yet, right? I don't think that's finished. Because you're right, that was 100% assault. You told the guy to leave your property, he was leaving the property, and you still came at him with a gun and spit in his fucking mouth. Gross. Yeah, that was crazy. Uh Don said, yeah, my mouth stays shut. Sorry. Speak text, not understanding me again. Yeah, speech to text can be a bitch sometimes. You're not wrong. Um, but Don said, with everything I've seen, if I get pulled over, mass, my mouth stays shut. Uh arms go out the window, and they're going, and I'm going to do what they're going to do. Uh yeah. It's common behavior though. It's finished. Oh, it is finished. What was the ruling? Did he win his lawsuit? Was it a lawsuit or was it the criminal case? I'm assuming he won. I haven't heard anything negative about it. Figured that would go crazy if he if he lost. I'm just looking at the numbers on our morning chat. We we floated around 30, 15 to 30. It didn't kill by any means like we normally do on a Sunday night, but it is jumping, jumping all over the place. We're almost back up to 30 right now. So um, and please, please, if you have not done so or you're new to the show, please do the whole like, follow, subscribe thing. It's we're an hour in, and that's the first time I've asked for that. So I don't ask for it very often. It does help the show, though. And we've been seeing more and more judges rip apart lying and tyrannical officers in court. Yeah. You know, that's fair. The Fahy case is finished, but Sean will get his verdict tomorrow. Oh shit. Hell yeah. I I wish him luck. Uh I hope I hope it goes his way. He has not, Lacey said he has not heard the results yet. I don't I don't see how it can't. To be honest, I don't see how it can't go his way. Faye got off easy on the criminal charges. Now it's just a civil case. Uh, okay. So he did get charged. Did he did he plead no contest or something?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

Maybe I can ask on the chat GPT. Did Brian Faye how do you spell Feyhe? Fey Faye.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

I don't know how to spell his fucking name. Let me scroll back up. Did somebody else spell it?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

That's F-A-Y-H-E, maybe? F-H-Y.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

F H F-A-H, that's where I messed up. F-A-H-E-Y. Did Brian Fahy get convicted in Leah case?

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If so, what did he get?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

Uh he got a diversion deal. All right, let's see if let's see if uh the chattist of GPTs over here has a okay. So, in shorthand, he was arrested. He was charged for disorderly conduct con conduct, convicted, no indication that he was convicted. Um, no prison sentence, uh, disposition, diversion, accelerated rehabilitation, which can result in a dismissal upon successful completion. Wow. Um, Connecticut State Police separately sustained an internal affairs finding of conduct unbecoming. He received discipline and retired effective August 1st, 2025. There's an interesting update on the other side of the case. Rea's criminal trespass case actually went to trial last month. If you want, I can dig into that.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:25

Please do. Um, the prosecutor actually spoke in favor for Brian at his hearing, asking the judge to be nice to the man while simultaneously going after him. I will give Leah credit. I have never had the balls to talk in court like he talked in court, and the judge allowed it, which was even crazier, because he was owning that prosecutor, owning him. I even text him and told him, I was like, that is insane. Yeah, and this is where this is where people have a fair argument, like with what Trevor's saying, rules for for thee, but not for me. And that's crazy to me. Because I would love to think where I am at that that would never fly. It would not be, it would be the complete opposite. That's why I like working where I'm at. I feel overall that the balance has been much more in favor of the citizens than it ever has been for the cops. Um, he said it was a baby judge. Yeah. That makes a difference. They haven't really established themselves and how they like their decorum in the court. Yeah, that's so funny. Corrupt the kit. I love that he can't coin a fucking name for the whole state. Um, let me see here. Uh Reya's original serious charge largely went away. Tried on only a misdemeanor of the third-degree criminal trespass, verdict still not publicly reported as of this morning. And based strictly on the evidence that has been reported, I think the state's remaining trespass case has some real reasonable doubt problems, particularly the operative no trespassing sign, was lying in vegetation, and Rey has probably left when told to leave. That's coming from Chat GPT. So that's an unbiased uh response based on the evidence presented. Um, so even ChatGPT thinks that it's gonna get dismissed. Captain Crunch, which is a great name. The thing that pisses me off is every time I see a video like what Mark Furman did when he curb stomped a person, the other dozen cops did nothing to stop him. They just reminded him there were cameras. Yeah. Yeah. So I can't defend that. I'm not going to try to, but I can also tell you that I have seen I have seen cops that they couldn't stop something from occurring right in the moment. Um, but went and did the right thing after the fact, reported it, you know, brought light to it, did all those things. So those are things to consider that we may or may not see um on the camera. Uh what did I'm looking at a comment? Oh shit, where'd it go? Somebody said he got a diversion deal. Legion of Steel said, um, were you born this way or did you fall recently? Because damn, what the hell is wrong with your face? That's a good one. Uh, it's just how I look, bro. It is what it is. I'm married with kids. I don't give a fuck what I look like. I ain't trying to get no side piece. So I'm good. I'm good with me. Um, let me see here. Now the police benevolent association president got a bunch of 1A auditors demonetized, including allegedly. Um, we were we were talking about that a little earlier, uh, Acorn, is as much as there is a little bit of merit behind that as far as using their own words against them, because he said that they need to get taken off of YouTube and all that shit. My my real question is how would he even go about doing that? How would he even have a connection? Because the YouTube CEO doesn't give a fuck about him. He is small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. He's in New York. CEOs in California, they have nothing to do with each other. They have no jurisdiction over each other, nothing. If anything, the YouTube guy holds way more power than any cop ever will. Um, so I have a hard time buying that. It's a good theory, only given what he had said in the past, recent past. But how YouTube has notoriously been unfriendly to police channels. How do I know? Because they take my shit down all the time. I get, you know, I've I've been on the fence of getting my page taken down several times. They're not police friendly. I promise you. So I don't see I just don't see how that that logical trail being reasonable. But I could be wrong. I uh I admit it. I just you gotta give me more. I mean, let's let's let's really discuss this and see how that would be possible. Everything when I do an investigation, everything's about tying links together. I don't see the link other than this comments. Do you who has the CEO of YouTube? Who just has them in their back pocket to talk to them and try to get their get their ear? And I'm probably one of the more connected cops in the nation, network-wise. I mean, I've I know a ton of people. I know a bunch of CEOs for a lot of big companies, but nothing like YouTube. And even then, I don't have I know them, I don't have a direct connection. About the only big, big company I have a direct connection to is Axon. And that's simply because we're friends and we have podcasting in common. That's it. It has nothing to do with anything else. Um Trevor said, and we the people are supposed to trust these things happen behind closed doors. No, we trust what we see, we trust what we know. Police have lost the ability to say trust me. We don't, I police never had the ability to say trust me. That's why there's so many checks and balances in in line for just doing the job. You've got public perception, you've got the DA's perception, you've got internal perception. Uh, you got the courtroom's perception, which is separate from the prosecutor. Um, you've got use of force that you got to go against, you've got internal policies that you got to go into. So there's a lot of checks and balances. Now you got body cameras, you got all these things. Um, so that's why you can't use the term, trust me. If you could have, you wouldn't have all those things, right? If you could, you would not have all of those things I just listed. So, to your point, Trevor, I don't think you could ever do that. Because at the end of the day, we're the government. Trust me, we're here to help. Like, that just doesn't work. Um political pressure. What politics is a fucking New York uh Union president gonna have over YouTube? What political pressure do they have? Uh We the People means all of us, 1776. What's up, brother? I love the name. Uh Living the Dream. DF Body DFW Body can't say his name. DFW Body Cam. Um, someone got their ear. Yes. I someone did get their ear because it happened all at once and it was a bunch of auditors. You're right. But I just don't see how the union president, I don't get I don't see that, y'all. I I don't see how. And I again, it's not that it doesn't hold merit. There's some merit behind it. Because of the words the guy said himself, right? So the the connection's there. There's that one small connection. I just, man, I would really, I just, I just don't know. I mean, you got you got guys like Joe Rogan. Look at what he brings to YouTube and could bring to YouTube. And like, even him has had to be careful about what he says and does, and and he's talked about it publicly about trying to get away from YouTube because it just holds so much power. So, what leverages is are they gonna have over him? Um uh let me see. Original Textual Intent said, I suggested him and others to create a Rumble channel, yes, to avoid censorship, which is what I've done. I've got a Rumble channel, but I've got 84 followers on Rumble. It does not grow. I don't know how to grow Rumble. I've had it for quite a while. It just I don't understand it. I go live on there and I post all my reels on there. It doesn't grow. So it's under two cops, one donut. I don't know how to make that bitch grow. Um DFW Body Camp said, maybe the messages to YouTube came from Washington, D.C. That's possible. That's possible. I just again, I don't I don't see this union president that I've never even heard of. So he doesn't hold all, you know, it's not like the NYPD union president, which I have heard of. Um I've never heard of this dude. And I'm in law enforcement, so he may be a big deal in his area, but I don't see him being a big deal to YouTube. Uh Steve Wallace. Too early. Are you trying to exclude me? Yeah, I was testing you, Steve, to see if you if you would see that I went live. I don't think Steve's ever missed one of our lives. Um I have a hard time believing that the government's checks and balances don't lean towards protecting the people. It leans towards protecting themselves. I think it's I think it's gone, it's it's gone all around that. I think I've seen instances like we'll use Fehey for example, where it's leaned towards the cops. But then I've seen instances where um there was that Michigan case where the guy's running from a stolen vehicle and the officer tries to tase him, the guy wrestles the taser away, and then the officer ultimately ends up shooting him, and the the system went right after him. Um like there's times where they go after the cops, and I'm like, what the fuck are you going after that cop for? He did everything he could, and then there's times that they go the total opposite way, so it just depends. Do you advertise here that channel? What's its name? Do you advertise here that channel? What are we talking about?

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85 now. Crowder. I'm sorry, I'm missing.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:07

I'm missing uh do they think they want to help cops government protect against those auditors? Um Lou was apparently talking with the head of DOJ, Todd Blanch, and that's pretty I'm pretty sure Todd Blanch could get a hold of the YouTube CA. Now there's a link. See, there's that's a better link. Absolutely. Um, I'm not sure what we're talking about when you said, oh, you said you got 91 on Rumble now. Thanks. Thanks for jumping over to our Rumble. Uh appreciate it. Um Trevor said, yeah, it's too early. I bet your mom doesn't show up. Yeah, you're probably not wrong, David. Um at the end of the day, if our change and activism depends solely on YouTube accepting us as our platform, then we are in a lot of trouble. I agree. And I like again, I think it's idiotic to take down or to demonetize. They didn't get taken down, but to demonetize them, um, it just sends a wrong message. Sends a message that you're against freedom of speech and people that go out and try to hold our government accountable. Now, there's always a line, like yeah, that's the beauty of America is we've always tested that. We've tested our government. We see where those lines are. Where's those lines in the sand that we can push up against to let them know that we the people hold the power? And um, First Amendment authors have they they've pushed that line back and forth. And, you know, I would say the majority of the the channels that we saw getting taken down, they I've never I don't know that any of them have been the egregious ones. Now, I'll admit I didn't read all of them. I just saw what um Leah had made that chart. And so most of the ones I like Kansas City audits and these guys, they all stay pretty peaceful and do it right, in my opinion. But that you're sending a bad message when you're like, nah, we're gonna we're gonna discourage any testing of your own government. I don't, and in freedom of speech. I don't like that. I don't agree with it. Um oh yeah, that was Christopher Scher. Yes, that's the case I was talking about. Yep, that's the name. I think I feel like that that kid got railroaded all the way across. I don't even know what the end the outcome. I think he got, I think ultimately the he won in court, but he had to go through the ringer on something that I'm like, uh like what other choice did the dude have? Um, Rumble usually gets higher numbers in monetization for right-leaning activity. Oh, that's probably why I don't, I'm not political enough. Yeah, I don't do politics. Um, YouTube is notorious for taking down and demonetizing any videos that have weapons or any sort of violence. Yeah, that's why I say like I I am surprised we have survived this long on YouTube. Um, I'm just hoping the formula I got a strike the other day that I'm appealing. So I've been doing since Chat GPT came out, I've been doing a lot better on my on my appeals because I show Chat GPT everything and then it's like, all right, this is how we're going to appeal, and it doesn't. And they must have whatever algorithm because I doubt it's a human that's looking at my appeal, and I've been winning. So we'll see on this next one. I shared the civil rights lawyer video. Um, as corrupt as decisions is, I believe YouTube demonetizing these channels that expose government and police corruption can only help by removing that excuse auditors only do it for money. Yeah, agreed. And so that's that's one of the things that I kind of pointed out earlier is like you're gonna see the ones that were there for the real cause, and you're gonna see the ones that were there just to try to make a make a dollar. Um, see how that goes. What I want to see is them, are they gonna demonetize these YouTube channels where these guys intentionally go into stores, excuse me, go into stores and try to, you know, raise hell and then leave before anybody gets there. Um sorry, I'm looking over on Instagram finally. I just realized I didn't have it up on this page. Uh, on that note, in instances like you spoke about, I have found dumping someone on their face will disrupt that oodaloop and prevent oh, going back to going hands-on. Um yes, dropping somebody down quickly on a use of force usually takes the fight out of them and they don't get hurt. Maybe a scrape or two, but it's better than getting shot and ultimately or getting tased or any of the other things. Um PD mistyped a license plate and thought that they had a stolen vehicle. Um, yeah.

ALPR Flock And The Argument For Audits

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

Again, okay, let's jump on the ALPR bandwagon. I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep putting this message out there. All right. So I want, I'm gonna look at the camera for this one. I want y'all to hear me on ALPR. We live in a time where there's cameras everywhere, and people are seeing some of the bad police work out there more than they ever had before. And it's the same theme. Even if you look through the comments on this live stream we're doing today, the the tone is always the same. The tone is I want good cops to hold bad cops accountable. So stick with me. The concern with ALPR is data, data tracking, um, and uh misuse, you know, inappropriate use. So that's a fair argument, right? I get that side. The courts haven't ruled one way or the other yet on this subject. So they're lawful, we're allowed to use them. But here's where I'm going to try to flip your perspective. And I've said this on here before, but let me let me um ALPR is ALPR. It doesn't matter if you call it Flock or whatever. Flock is just a Kleenex name for ALPR. Um, but let me give you another perspective that may, I'm not gonna say sway you, but just make you think differently instead of being so one-sided. You want cops to good cops to hold bad cops accountable. And with all of the pressure that you guys have put on the ALPR stuff, they have created a tool that us as cops have always wanted. We just didn't, we didn't know we wanted it. You know, there's these growing pains, and we're in that growing pain. Is created a tool that allows us, good cops, to hold bad cops accountable in an unbiased way and an unblinking, unwavering, unhideable way. You can't sweep it under the rug. And it also holds accountable the people that are trying to hold cops accountable. So, what do I mean by that? I am one of those. I do audits on police for ALPR. Doesn't sound like I'm gonna be doing it much longer, but since this new tool came out, it also holds me accountable because if I try to do it improperly or say, you know, a cop gets flagged and it has merit to it, and I don't report it, like it shows, and I have to put reasons down for that as well. The point that I'm getting to is you've got a tool that has been able to sweep across the nation holding bad cops accountable all at once. That's why you see 150 some odd cops in Georgia being um charged and arrested and fired. And then you see another big group in uh Virginia and Tennessee. It's this is all coming to head. So you now have that tool that is getting rid of bad cops in quicker, faster than any way you've ever seen before. And you want to get rid of that tool? Just something to weigh. I'm just saying, think about it. Because if you get rid of that, it's gonna go back to finding a needle in the haystack of a needle that you don't know what that needle looks like, but you got to find it. That is just a perspective to keep. Um and I I like knowing the fact that I've got this tool available to filter out. Now, it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Again, we got growing pains, but you've never had a tool that filters out finding people doing bad, dumb shit like you do with this tool right now. And if you keep it around long enough, all of these other because there's more invasive tool techs out there, guys, that you're not even talking about. Clear, TLO, um, leads online, uh Shadow Dragon, I think it's called. Um there's the other tools that cops can use that look into your background and do things investigatively. They don't have these same type of audit tools for that yet, because there's never been any public pressure to come up with that, and we never thought to think of that. I mean, you like I said, I I can't believe, you know, it's one of those things you you know, it's like double-sided tape. How did I never think of that before? It's like I never thought of that as a tool. And now that that's out there, I'm like, this is amazing. How come we don't have this for everything? Let's get it. So it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Um, I'm off my soapbox now. I'm gonna look back down at the screen. So let me, I'm gonna go back and see what y'all have said. Um uh Eric, that's not oh shit. I lost. Eric, that's not true. Now activists are back to doing it on their own dime and in their own spare time. I'm thinking we're talking about First Amendment auditors. Uh K-Palm said, I totally agree. Um, assuming you have someone looking over those departments. Um yeah, the and like I was saying, the beauty is is you you can't hide from this. That's why you're seeing all of these departments for all the stuff that you guys claim the cops try to try to cover up for each other. You're not covering up for this. You can't hide it. That's why I look at this tool and I'm like, this is amazing. You finally have an instant filter that flags instantly on cops misusing um this tool. So you show me that something that does something quicker, faster in a hurry than that. I'm all ears because I have not heard of it. Uh um persistent surveillance is a fourth amendment violation, no different than, yeah, but that's the argument. Uh OTI is is it persistent surveillance? There's there's not a ruling on it. And just because you say it doesn't mean that that's true. And it's no different than me saying that it's not. I don't know. I don't, I'm not reviewing a whole argument and case on this. It's not my decision to make. So while it's not my decision to make, the argument that I am making is that accountability with the tool is where I can actually help. That is my role as law enforcement is to make sure there's good accountability for a tool that is currently allowed to be used. When it's not, then it's not. But right now, it's it's something that we're using. So we need to have a good policy in place, good checks and balances to use it. So that that's kind of been my stance on that. Um is there a way for an officer to make a complaint against another officer without outing the officer? At a large department, yes. At a small department, good luck. It's hard to hide. So there's there's anonymous ways to do things, yes. And they should be kept quiet. But you gotta remember the majority of departments across the, I think it's something like 80%, maybe even higher of departments are like 20 officers or less. So if that's the case, good luck. Nobody figuring out you're the one that complained on them. That's gonna be that's gonna be hard. Um but unfortunately, we have seen even an attorney will not stop a tyrant from doing what he feels he must.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:14

I cannot get this thing to scroll down. What is going on? Uh there we go.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:22

I agree with uh David said, I agree with your perspective. Way to make lemonade out of lemons. Uh swaggy McBaggy, which is a great name, by the way. And I see you've got uh a great baseball player for an icon. Uh love it. I think that's Willie Mays, if I'm if I can see correctly there. Uh it's so little, it's hard to tell. Kind of looks like Willie Mays. Um I agree with that perspective. Uh, who buys double-sided tape? That's what Swaggy McVaggy said. Hey, man, that's what happens when you freestyle off the top of the head. Uh you shouldn't be tracking. Oh shit. I don't know why my chat is so laggy. I'm trying to scroll through and see what everybody's saying, but it's really um cops agencies purchase all tracking data. That's that's not fully accurate. Um you have to choose who you share with. So Arios, I'll give you guys kind of some insight on on how it works. So let's say, you know, I'm Mayberry Police Department. I'm new to Flock uh and I get Flock camera system. Um I put myself on the network and then I decide if I want to share my network. So I opt into that or I don't. Um, a department can choose not to share any of their flock cameras with any of the other flock cameras around the nation. So you choose to share, so you can open that up. And then at the same time, you can request permission from other agencies. And there's even a way to just suggest, like you can say, hey, everybody in this radius, I want to request permission to share their stuff, and I'm giving permission to share our stuff. So that's how that works. It's it's not you just automatically purchase everything and you get all that. You gotta you gotta request. There's there's ways to do it, ways not to do it. Um license plate readers on cop cars. Yep, that's a thing. Uh I remember flat cameras started a while ago and put them on the four corners of the yeah, yeah, that definitely was a thing. Um I mean that that still is a thing. Um, now the dash cameras do it. Uh let me see here. Jackie Robinson. Oh, it's Jackie Robinson. My bad. It's yeah, like I said, it's it's so little on my screen, I can't tell. Um I should have known that one. My bad. Uh, did this channel get demonetized yet? No, not yet. Not that we make money. We I think in a good month, we've made about $47 on on monetizing. Um on a good month. Now, what we what we tend to make money on is when people donate, uh, do the the super chats and and that. That's about the only time um we get that. And I'm I'm very transparent. We get about 200 to 400 bucks on a good month, which almost, you know, kind of covers the bills. We're trying to, I'm trying to get, if I can get 1200 bucks a month, I cover my bills on on the show. If I just cover the bills, that's that's awesome. That's the that's the ultimate goal. I don't know why, but my live on TikTok has all of a sudden just dropped off.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:12

That's weird. Let me see if I can go back.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:19

Did my live completely end? My live did end on there. Nope. It says we're still on. That's weird. It just booted me right the hell off my own live, but my live was still running. We're back on TikTok. Uh looking over through the chat. Um, it is literally true. Legal allowance is not done yet, but 24-7 recording is persistent surveillance regardless of allowed. Uh, just like a cell phone backdoor search were just shut down by Supreme Court. Um, but you're comparing apples to oranges. Tracking your personal cell phone is completely different than looking at a car driving down a public street that has no personal information, and you should be only tracking the ones that have criminal um cases on them. This is so weird. I don't understand why it keeps dropping off my own chat. Testing on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:26

Yeah, shows me still on there.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:34

Weird. Um, YouTube money isn't what people think it is. No, you're 100% on that. TikTok money is not what people think it is. Uh our guy. All right, I'm back. Had to get work van loaded. Hey, appreciate you watching while you're at work, man. Um, I appreciate officers like you and Detective Matt. I see a lot of his stuff on here. Love you guys for pointing out what's wrong. Yeah, me and Matt are boys. Uh, I gotta get Matt. Matt's finally retired, but the dude went and grabbed a job right away. So now he's on nights, and I haven't been able, I was hoping to get him on regularly because he's a part of the show, but he's been working, so I don't know what to do. Gotta get my boy back on. Me and Matt are our boys. Um have you I don't think I've seen any of my mods on. I want to get my mods hooked up with Arguy. I think Arguy would be a great um great addition to our YouTube monitor modernization. This isn't alcohol, I swear.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:43

I'm getting through this Alani.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:46

Um anyway. Um I tell you what, there is a really great book that dropped out, and I know the author personally. So I'm gonna give him a shout out. If you guys get a chance, there is a book called Real Time Policing: How Technology is Transforming. Um I'm trying to go back. Let me I'm gonna find a link to it. You don't get friends that write books too often, you know. I'm gonna sorry if I get quiet here for a second. Um, I'm looking for this uh this book and I'm gonna share it um on the screens.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:41

Here we go, share screen.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:48

Check that book out right there. Real-time policing: how technology is transforming law enforcement. Um, you guys know if if we're gonna talk about technology and all the stuff that's going on, um, this is a person that uh did the job, helped shape real-time crime and and the tech that goes behind it, and also worked on the other side, um helping develop the tech and do all that stuff. So very uh very cool book. Go go check this out. I'm hoping he makes an audio because I don't like reading. He knows it. But um, I just want to share my buddy's book here. Let me see if I can make this look better on Instagram. Let me see. That's not a good view. How about this one? There's a better view. Now you can see the whole thing on Instagram. Uh, real-time policing. Go to Amazon and type that in. Real-time policing, how technology is transforming law enforcement. Uh, let me stop sharing that. Okay. Friendly Bob 12 dropped 10 bucks on us. Thank you very much. We're doing this uh this, he said, good morning, Eric. Good morning to you, sir. We appreciate any don't you were the first donation today. So thank you, sir. Your money goes directly into the two cops, one donut support this show fund. It does not go in my pocket. All of it goes right back into the show and the bills of the show. And this is another thing. I put my money where my mouth is. Uh, I am an active cop. So for those that don't know, um, it's a risk for me to even do this show. I could be fired for what I say on here. So I have to kind of be careful. Um, but with that, uh, our guy said, Have you read Rise of the Oathbreakers?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:42

I think Rise of the Oathbreakers. Let me look that up. Oh shit. Rise of the Oathbreakbreakers. Let me see the I gotta see the book.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:02

I think that guy actually sent me a copy, and I have it at my office. Yes, I this guy did send me a copy. He's the um, if I'm correct, our guy, he was the uh game warden, I think. But he sent me an autographed copy, like out of the blue. I didn't even know he followed the show. Um, but it captures innocent and maybe have been stopped because of no investigation, just except what AI said. Not apples to oranges, but fourth amendment freedom travel. Um again, we need to stop blaming the tool. We need to blame the officers when they use it improperly. Hold them accountable. Uh Craig dropping five memberships. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you so much. Oh, no boots got uh no boot liquors got one. Lacey got one. Hell yeah. I love when we get our regulars that um they get hooked up. Thank you, Craig. That's badass. Um, our guy said, Yeah, that's him. Yeah, I actually have a copy of it. It's so funny being you know a cop sitting in the I have his book and I have that real-time crime center book sitting side by side in my office right now. When I get to the office, I'm actually gonna take a picture of that and show you what my office what my office looks like right now. You're gonna laugh. I'll post that one on Instagram. Um damn, this thing won't let me scroll. It's pissing me off.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:31

Restream is being an asshole right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:34

I was trying to get to somebody had a comment on the ALPR stuff.

Body Cameras Mute Buttons And Public Records

SPEAKER_01 1:39:42

Body cams were supposed to hold everyone accountable, but it covered up more than no. Get the come on, Will. That's two bullshit things you've said on here. Body cams have single-handedly been one of the most remarkable things in law enforcement. It has helped get more bad cops than anything, and it's helped protect cops from bullshit charges and accusations. I've had at least three times my body cam has saved my bacon from potential bullshit. So don't come in here with baseless anecdotal bullshit. Come on, my guy. I call out bad shit all the time. And you're gonna come in here and say that body cams have covered up more? Get the fuck out of here. What a terrible argument. Um, you think he's gonna get away with that comment for free? No, sir. I will call out cop bullshit in a heartbeat, but I will call out other people's bullshit, baseless bullshit in a heartbeat. Just because a cop got away with something that you think they got away with and the body cam saw something, that doesn't mean jack shit. That does not mean body cams are are a bad thing or they don't hold people accountable. Um you needed to be green. You should be you shouldn't be gray. What you needed to be green, you shouldn't be gray. What does that mean? I needed to be green.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:15

My shirt? Is that what we're talking about?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:18

Yeah. Body cam equals accountability both ways. Agreed. Agreed. And it is busted a lot of cops. A lot. But to even imply that body cams are a negative thing, you you gotta make some hell of an argument. And you didn't make it there. Sorry, bud. You definitely didn't make it on the wind. The problem I see with body cams is that they can be turned off and on and muted at officers' will. Body cam is the one thing that cannot lie unless it's been manipulated. So you you can't, at least with an axon, the the the the ones that I've got experience with, you can't manipulate the body cam footage. You can't, you can't physically get a hold of that raw video and mess with it. However, yes, you can turn them off, you can turn them on, and some departments you can mute. Um, I think you should not be able to mute. Uh, however, you gotta have the ability to turn it off and on. Um, and the the reason being is that damn battery doesn't last the whole shift. Um if you if you leave it running. Um so when I say you need to be able to turn it off and on, I just mean you mean you need to be able to make it record and make it not record. Uh, but it will it will stay on the uh at least a 10-hour shift, as long as it's fully charged. So there are tech technical limitations to it, but you should be able to turn it on. Like if I'm going into the bathroom, you don't need to be able to see me go to the bathroom. Um, if if I decide on my lunch break to have a call with my wife or my doctor or any of that shit, you shouldn't be able to see that. Um if I'm in with a uh a rape victim or something like that, like that's another reason. Like there are certain reasons why you should be able to turn some of that off. Someone said, is that Borat over on TikTok? Do I look like Borat? That nice. Um Ariel dropping 10 bucks in the chat. Thank you, Ariel. He said, so body cams have made a huge difference in accountability, but did you know body cam footage isn't considered public record in North Carolina? Really? I did not know that. Let me let me look that up. Let me look that up. Body cam footage is not considered public in North Carolina Carolina.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:45

Question mark?

SPEAKER_01 1:43:50

Correct, North Carolina is an unusual in this respect. Body cam footage is expressly not public record. What the fuck? This is why I say be very choosy where you live, y'all. Um Indica versus Sativa. What are we talking about here? Body cams so effective in clearing cops that the ACLU wants to get rid of them. I did hear that argument. I did hear that they didn't like the way body cams are portraying people. Uh, do you not have chargers in the cars for your body cam? Um I mean you have to like take it off and plug it in. Like, that's a thing. You could do that, but you should be charging. I mean, again, if you're running it 24-7, no, you you're gonna be you got to take it off to charge it. So either way, you either have one on or you don't. And if I have to take it off to charge it, then I'm not wearing it. You're gonna have a cord connected to you? I don't think so. Doesn't work like that. Um, but yeah, I I'm I'm with you on taking away mute. I don't like that they can mute. That should not be an option. Um, that should be a redaction team's job. If something needs to be redacted, then they mute that. Um, but also uh I'm not I am a public servant, but I also have a right to my own privacy on certain things, like going to the bathroom, uh sitting there bullshitting with the guys uh in the report writing room where we're not in view of the public and we're behind a controlled area. Like there's there's just times that I don't need to be recorded. Just like you don't need to be recorded. There's like, you know, if they if they want to put a camera up in the corner or something like that, that's on them. But making it a requirement for me to have to go around and record every single thing everywhere, no. You just you gotta remember too, guys, you want people to do the job. You want people to do the job, and there has to be a human factor to that you gotta have a human side. So unless it's like public facing and and and job related, like again, me going to the bathroom, me sitting on my lunch break in the break room at the office, like no, it don't need to be recording during that time. And we can agree to disagree on that part because I'm very pro-record as much as we can. But there has to be an ability to to turn that shit off and just unwind. Um can you explain why after a shooting they turn cameras off? No, I can't. Um I don't know why you would. I don't know why you would turn your camera off. Doesn't make any sense. Who's turning their camera off after a shooting? Is that a thing? I don't know. I've never been in shooting. Um I have been on the scene of shootings and nobody was turning their camera off, but I've never paid attention to somebody turning a camera off for the person that shot. Is that a thing? Next time you go to the bank, keep it, keep it on, Eric. We need that pin number. You're gonna be found wanting. You'll be like, oh shit, I didn't realize we were getting into debt. Because I have a lot of debt, sir. This show has not been friendly to my bank account. Um, they have hybrid hybrids fry. You don't have to choose anymore. What are we talking about? I missed. Officers could narrate to the camera and use body positioning to facilitate their objective, but that's not the camera. That's the officer. Yeah, I narrate. I'm like uh Morgan Freeman on my body camera. I'll be like, you know, yeah, I got this call. Uh supposedly uh the neighbor can hear arguing going on in the house. Um, and they hear a female yelling, you know, quit hitting me. Um we already kind of got some information on the house. I know that I'm looking for uh Michelle and and a Bob uh at this address. I'm walking up right now. My partner that's backing me up is getting out of their car. Like I'm talking the whole time as I'm I'm going up, but that was kind of learned self-taught behavior. I was never trained to do that. But I can tell you it is paid dividends. Um, can you uh let me see here? Can you explain why I am supposed to believe a written report when the body cam shows something completely different? Uh yes, I can. So, Ian 2001, I always tell officers to write their report before they ever review their body cam. Because there's a human factor. What I perceive and what I see, think, feel may not be what the body cam shows. So, and that's the best way I can describe that is you know, I'm approaching a car, and you can't see it on the body cam, but I can see some movement in that vehicle that just makes me sit uneasy. So I I draw my gun as I'm approaching the window, and I'm I'm kind of looking like, hey, roll the window down, show me your hands, show me your hands. Now you still can't see shit. And all, but I, my eyes can see something that camera can't see. I can see something shiny, and he starts to raise it up. And I've already fired, I fired and moved offline. And went behind the car. You don't see any of that. But my eyes can see it. That's the problem with just going based off of a tool. And you may not hear anything on that camera. You may not see anything. So you can never just depend on the camera. You can never just depend on a report. You just kind of gotta feel it out and go through it. So yeah, you can absolutely uh have something completely different than what a body cam shows. It it happens. Um, let me see here. What are you going to get a shoe? When are you going to get a shoe, Cinderella? What? I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Um let me see here. Everybody, everybody, everybody camera is different depending on the brand. Some charge just as easily as radios, others require a plug-in agreed. When interacting with the public, it must be on and on muted. Yeah, you you I got so good, and this is me bragging. I got so good with turning my camera on that the moment something happened in front of me, it wasn't a call. Like I just because I would I would do patrol on foot occasionally just to change it up. So I remember walking through the entertainment district, and all of a sudden somebody comes flying out of the bar, and I didn't even realize I had turned my camera on already and it was going and handle business. So um I think, and I was a cop that had to learn. I was a cop before body cameras into body cameras. The cops that are just body camera, they that's all they've ever known. They're way better at it. Even though I got good at it, they're way better at it. Because you got to remember now, there's cops that they've never known anything different. So that's something to consider. Um, same with red light cameras. Can't always see if you got a move for EMS or police running a call. Ryan, human beings are pretty bad at recalling situations too, though. They are witness tennis, yes, 100%. But it's important to know what I was thinking, what I was feeling. All of those factors are important. Because if I if I go up and I'm like, you know, I didn't, and this goes cop to cop too, because sometimes me coming up and I'm like, oh, my spidey senses started going off, but the partner that was coming up from the other side didn't see any of that in their report. They're gonna be like, you know, I didn't see anything, you know, this is this is what I saw, and this is what I felt. Um so now that's gonna have to be an explanation. I need to be able to articulate why my spidey senses were going off. This is what I saw, this is what I felt. So that makes a difference. It isn't so much just on recollection as it is on your experience in that call. And then it can go into what if what if my spidey senses were completely wrong? That that's a factor too. Because what if it was just a cell phone in that scenario that I made? Now it can look like I was ridiculous. But what if my body cam, you know, showed all of that and I acted like it was a gun? Like that, all these things, like this is why it makes a difference. This is why I think it's important that you need to write your report based on what you remember and how it went for how you think it went for you, and then you will review your body cam and you'll say, you know, I I wrote this report. This is my recollection, and then I watched my body camera. Um, and here's some factors that I had I didn't I didn't recall, but the body cam picked up. And this is and give explanation behind the body cam as well. You know, because sometimes you're like, you know, I um I wrote down the subject's name as this. Um I misheard that person, but after reviewing the body cam, um I made an adjustment to the name, and that's why it's this. So these are these are things. Testing rumble. I see you, Palm. K. Palm said testing rumble. You're on. So rumble's working. Uh no boot liquors allowed, said me. It always cracks me up when I get people that have kind of anti-cop names and stuff like that. Uh, or anti-bad cop. That's that's how I like to phrase things. Um Fry said, 9 mil or 45? 9 mil all day, baby. I like a faster, smoother round. I don't need that big old gun. I don't need a 45. Body cameras should uh not have mute buttons. Redaction should happen retroactively, agreed. Uh, not at the discretion of an officer who wants to mute to possibly conspire against you. I added the word possibly for you, Trevor. Uh agreed. Agreed. Um did you guys hear the story of those physic physical pen testers that got put in jail and prosecuted for burgl burglary, maybe? Bergery? Even though they had authorization from the state, Iowa courts. No, I have no idea what you're talking

Red Light Cameras And Due Process

SPEAKER_01 1:55:31

about. How do you feel about traffic cams sending tickets? It's bullshit and unconstitutional. It should not be allowed. Um, have you heard about Jacob Rockwell in Florida? I have not. Let me let me type that in. What is the story with Jacob Rockwell in Florida? Um K-Pom said, oh, that was a while ago, right? Uh he said, no, possibly. Uh I got a red light ticket in Chicago, getting out of the out of the police car's way. Yeah, they're bullshit. In Texas, they got rid of all of them. Found them unconstitutional. You have the right to face your accuser. Um, which that's been an argument that people try to make for uh ALPRs, and that's it's not the same thing. Um, ALPR is not accusing you of anything, and it's not giving you tickets, uh, at least not the flock ones. Um, let me see here. Pensacola red light camera guy who went viral at City Council. Jacob Rockwell's story is basically this. Rockwell is a Pensacola area resident who received a $158 red light camera ticket to his vehicle after it was photographed going through a red light. The twist is that Rockwell says he was at home in Alabama at the time and someone else was using the vehicle. He does not appear to be disputing that the vehicle actually ran the light. His complaint is about who gets presumed responsible and that the owner has to do to clear himself. Right. So you're basically guilty until proven innocent on something that the burden of proof should be on the state. That's me speaking, not this story. He went before Pensacola City Council and argued that the system effectively puts the burden of proof uh on the vehicle owner and established that someone else had care custody and control of the vehicle, using cop's own speech against them. I like that. Uh the speech went viral, and he later appeared on Fox discussing a broader issue of automated enforcement, privacy due to process, privacy and due process in government surveillance. There's an important legal nuance through, though, because some of the viral posts oversimplify it. Florida law really does send the notice to the registered owner, but it also expressly provides a statutory way out under Florida statute 316-0083. The owner is not liable if the vehicle is in another person's care, custody, and control. The owner can submit an affidavit identifying that person, including identifying information such as name address. Oh, so you have to snitch in order for that to happen. So when Rockwell says something to the effect, I have to prove my innocence, there's some truth to that frustration, but legally, I'd phrase it more carefully. This is Chat GPT's talking. Um, this is primarily a civil traffic enforcement scheme using registered owner liability and rebuttal presumption, not a normal criminal prosecution. So I like I I agree with that that you that those are unconstitutional and that you have a right to face your accuser, and the the presumption of guilt is there, and that you you have to fight for your own innocence, which you shouldn't have to do. They're they're they're getting you with the process itself. Um you should be responsible for who you lend your vehicle to and what and what happens. No, man, I disagree, Steve. If I lend my car out, I'm not responsible if that dude decides to go mow over a crowd of people with it. That's not my responsibility. He's the one driving the car. As long as he's now it's my responsibility if he doesn't have a license. Like I shouldn't be giving my vehicle out to an unlicensed person.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:27

So there's that. Um, let me see here.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:33

Did we suddenly get dropped from YouTube? Because I just got a YouTube notification. Testing. We'll test the chat. We nope, we're still on YouTube. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:47

You're saying don't blame the tools, but if there aren't using the tools correctly, what do parents when children misbehave with their toys? That person gets their toys taken away. You don't take the toys away from all the kids, you take it away from that kid. Gotcha. Um, Ariel dropped 10 bucks in the super chat. Thank you, Ariel. Again, he said pen testers are hired to try and breach the physical building and try to gain access to sensitive computers or servers. Oh, that would be fun. That would be a fun job. I would love to do that. Uh friendly Bob said straight A's. That's why we need police to pull them over and investigate. Trevor said, we here. Okay, so YouTube is still working. You generally have to prove you're innocent for traffic infractions when you go to court for them. They are found to have occurred unless disputed. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, now Mr. Billfold gets up and decides to jump on. Now that we're two hours in, exactly. Um, bridge trolls are done the same. Bridge tolls, I said trolls, are done the same way here. They are no, they no longer have a way to pay as you cross. They just photograph your car and the plate and send you the bill. Yeah, toll ways are a little different. That's not that's not a traffic infraction. And if that vehicle is being used to cross a toll, well, I kind of get that more. I'm not a fan of toll ways, but because the problem with tollways is they never go away, it seems. There's supposed to be that the toll pays for the road. Once the road's paid off, then you shouldn't have to pay the tolls anymore and and the taxes do the upkeep, but it doesn't seem to work that way. Um let me see. Uh We the People means all of us 17 seconds. Okay, I'm going back to my other channel. No bootlickers allowed. Hope to start making content on here shortly. Hell yeah, brother. That's what I'm talking about. Uh if you land a firearm, if you lend a firearm to somebody, are you responsible for what they do with it? Uh, it just depends. Again, Steve, if if you're of age and can legally use the firearm and I have no indicators that you're gonna do something unlawful with it, then yeah, I can lend it out and I'm not responsible. Now, if I let my, you know, 14-year-old use my gun and then she ends up doing something stupid, I'm gonna be held liable. Just depends on what's going on. Um, Don said, You're good on horizontal. Okay, cool. Looks like uh YouTube is still working as it's supposed to. Um that's different. Firearms aren't really borrowed or serve another purpose besides shooting. Yeah, but I mean, I know people that want to go to the range and get better, and you let them borrow your handgun. Um that that can't happen. Again, I'm in Texas too, y'all. Like it's your state may be different. So again, choose the state you live in wisely. I moved from Michigan. Um, I was once living in Montana where I was stationed there. Um yeah, Mr. Bilfo, we we talked about that earlier. Uh, you missed the boat on that one. I did hear about that. Um I'm not responsible for my brown legally.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:24

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_01 2:03:27

Did you misspell something there? Guay Guailo official. Um if today they find a system to prevent abuses on flock cameras, they are easily abused in future by bad government departments and right barriers requiring facts before piercing. I'm trying to understand that comment. Even if today they find a system to prevent abuses on you. Okay, here's the thing. You're not going to prevent abuses any more than I'm going to prevent crime. The point is finding the abuse and then holding them accountable. That's my argument. I could give a shit less about preventing it because you're not going to prevent it. You can do your best. I'm all for trying your best to prevent things, but it's it's going to happen. You gave cops pepper spray. Guess what? There's cops that abuse the pepper spray. You gave cops firearms. There's cops that have abused the firearm. You gave them patrol cars, there's cops that have abused patrol cars, there's cops that have abused everything you've ever given them. You're not going to prevent abuse in any job ever. The point is accountability after the fact. And like I said, with the new system, the new AI auditing system, you are seeing mass accountability across the board that you have never seen before. So complaining about all the abuse is one thing. It gives credence to what you're saying about there being a possible privacy issue. But at the same time, show me another tool that has caused mass accountability across the board.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:22

I kind of like that.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:25

Um as Magnum said here, there's no perfect world. We do the best to stop the bad and except it's not perfect system. Exactly. Um I I I don't understand what the hell this means. I'm gonna put it up here. Maybe somebody else can explain to me. Cops abuse my brown. What the fuck says on my brown? Are you misspelling something? Is this supposed to be a racial thing? I don't do the racial victimization shit on here. There's plenty of other channels that can do that. This ain't it. Um give them more, give them jail time. See, bro, they're getting felony charges. They're gonna get jail. Look at all the charges just in Georgia. I went down the list, Trevor. I don't know if you were here for that one. I have a running list on my Chat GPT. It keeps an updated list for every cop. I went down like I there was probably 200 names in more charges than that. I I've got it on my phone just for the state of Texas. You can, okay, you can ask Mr. Billfold. I actually have a list of charges that I'm keeping track of that apply in Texas because we're we're starting the same thing here in Texas. Um let me see, I got it on my phone. Uh charges to be mindful of. Texas Penal Code, misuse of official information. It applies when an officer uses non-public information obtained through employment for non-governmental purposes. Um, let me see. Uh I got uh there's two cases that we need to be mindful of in Texas right now, Lufkin officer and a Katie officer misusing ALPR. Um, so you got stalking, you've got tampering with governmental records. So that applies if they type in um intentionally type in the wrong case number to make it to mask what they're trying to do. Um abuse of official capacity. So that's penal code 3902, potential uh applicable when an officer intentionally misused government property, services, or data with intent. Um, you've got government code 41411-085 applies officers' uh activity, involves unauthorized obtaining or use of TCIC or TLET's criminal history. Um, that can be a class B misdemeanor all the way up to a second degree felony if they were accepting some sort of payment to use this stuff. So, and you also got stalking, official oppression, breach of computer security. Um, all could be all of these charges, and most of those are felonies. So uh friendly Bob, cops don't abuse donuts. The hell we don't. Um Trevor said, had to hop away for a minute, might have missed it. So yeah, uh I'm going to say that they're they're gonna get boned

Misusing Lights And A 2A Carry Stop

SPEAKER_01 2:08:32

on this. Um, what are your thoughts about responding to backup officer, like just routine, not emergency, speeding but not running code, using lights to get through traffic, and then turning them off? It depends. Um, because sometimes you're on the radio and you can hear it in your partner's voice that there's there may be more to it, and they're not in a position that to really call it out. So I will say this generally, I'm against it. You shouldn't be doing that. But are there times you can explain it? Yes. So you gotta be given the grace to be able to explain it. Like I posted a video the other day where uh I'll share it. We'll watch it right now. Um, let me see here. I'm gonna go to my page. It's a second A2A auditor um video, and we'll just talk about it. The part that I didn't care for in the video because I didn't think it was a justified reason for using your lights. Um let me get this off of the screen.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:49

Or not. There it goes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:53

Um can we switch these around here? I don't want to be the big screen. There we go.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:02

Okay. Um, so I'm on my Instagram page. I'm going to this 2A video. So I want this uh encounter here. So this guy's going around doing his second amendment carry audit. This cop stops out with them. I'm chilling. I'm about to. Do you mind talking to me real quick? So he's asking him, he's not demanding. I guess you have to store with some store calls on him. He's carrying his AR.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:40

See, baby. Uh that's about it. He's just showing up and carrying. Hello. I just I just had my right. How do we get it? How do we get it? Do you care to leave your information since we had contact with you?

SPEAKER_01 2:10:48

Ask, do you care to leave your information since we made contact with it? He's asking. This cop does amazing. That's why one of the reasons I showed it is because this cop doesn't detain, he doesn't do anything, and people are like, well, why do you even stop out with him? I think he stopped out with him because as he was turning the corner, probably trying to find him in the dark because there was a call. He's showing the citizens that he took the call seriously and was going to try to at least say he made contact. Um, and when he saw him, he stopped where he stopped, but he didn't make any of it mandatory. He turns his back to him, um, even though he's carrying like this officer handled this very well. Where there's some fixing to do, in my opinion, is when you see the responding officers. So let me show you that part.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:33

The idea from my ID just for y'all. Oh, never do that. Hey, I did it for y'all. Voluntarism is like called on him like, call on him.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:41

Look, this officer is using his lights to go through the light, using his his emergency lights to go through a red light. Why? What's the purpose? Where there's no one's calling and asking for help. You don't have a priority call. There's there's nothing.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:01

There's nothing here. So why are we doing it?

SPEAKER_01 2:12:05

Do I think he's like trying again? This is this is a great example of where I say when cops get butthurt that I'm like, you keep saying 99.9% of us are doing the right thing all the time. This isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Officers using light, because he's he's just trying to get over the call. He's trying to provide backup to his partner for safety purposes. I understand where his heart probably is on this, but at the same time, look at it from the citizen's perspective. This is you just flexing your authority saying, I can run this light because I can, because I got the lights and sirens and I got the badge and I can do this. Public perception matters too. So you running this light unnecessarily, you could have waited an extra 10 seconds, not put any safety at risk. Because what if somebody was timing that light and they didn't see you and they got their own lives going on and they're looking at a different direction? Like these are all things you got to consider. Um, and who would have been in trouble if you did cause an accident? Because I do believe there's a car at this light that has to slow down.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:07

But it happens right there.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:08

Look at that. Look what you almost unnecessarily caused. That's what, maybe six, seven feet gap. Luckily, that guy saw you. What if you got an accident there? Who is gonna be blamed for that? Because you're gonna say, well, I had my lights on. Like it's some bullshit, right? You are using your lights unnecessarily, and this is what people mean. This is why I say 99.9% aren't out there doing the right things because we do little stupid shit like this that's from public perception is an abuse of our power. It's not a big abuse, but it is. Okay. I'll blame y'all. Coming in high. Look, and he's already got backup. There's another guy here. Why are we getting all crazy?

SPEAKER_00 2:13:57

Nobody's calling and screaming for help.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:02

And this sergeant already knew what time it was. He knew it was a two-way auditor. He knew what was going on. There's zero, there was zero issue with that sergeant. All right. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:14

Sorry. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:16

Don't touch it, but um, and and people got they got a little butthurt about that statement. I tell people the same thing. Hey, you don't touch yours, I won't touch mine. Like, it's just a safety thing. I don't want anything misinterpreted by some other cop. That's the thing I'm worried about. I'm not worried about, and I don't think this cop is worried about himself. He's just telling him, don't touch it because you in his head, in me, and I'm speculating, but me as a cop, I don't need the rookie that just ran the light that may be a little amped up in a city that probably doesn't get a whole lot of calls to think some shit is about to go down because this guy is touching that gun. It's about protecting him from our own people sometimes. Just a different perspective for y'all. Um, it's not that that's a lawful order.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:11

It's just a safety issue for everybody.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:16

If that guy said, fuck you, I'm gonna touch my gun, and this cop was like, Oh, now I'm gonna do some enforcement. Now we've really got an argument because you don't have anything. You don't have him, he's not breaking the law by touching his gun. So um uh let me see. Yes, I agree with your perspective on the 2A video encounter and added my concern was if citizen asserted his rights, what would they do? Yeah, I don't believe, and this is why, I don't believe that sergeant would have done anything simply because of what he said and the way he acted. Him saying and turning his back to him and making sure to show that everything is consensual, because you can tell he did that intentionally, the way he asked these questions. I believe he probably would have just been like, all right, sir, well, have a good night. I think that honestly is how it would have ended. Um, if I think that this officer is showing interest in the gun just to have casual conversations. Hey, you know, how's the gun? Hey, don't touch yours, I won't touch mine. Um, again, for perception. Um Trevor says, it's funny if a cop tells me you don't touch yours and I won't touch mine, and everything's apparently fine. I tell that to a cop and they escalate to a threat. I could see it going that way. That's a funny I like that. That's pretty funny. Um Ryan said, it's hard to find videos where cops park correctly or put their seat belts on. Uh yeah, yeah, it that that can be true. Uh I have when I'm on the job, when I was in patrol, I parked what was best for the call. Sometimes that wasn't appearance-wise, wasn't the best view that the public's gonna see. Um, if I have a call at the Walmart, somebody's inside fighting with loss prevention because they stole some shit and they're trying to get away. I'm parking right up by the sidewalk and I'm getting inside, is what it is. But if I'm on lunch, I'm not parking in the handicapped spot. I'm not parking, you know, across crazy stuff that's not an actual parking spot. I'm not, I'm not doing that. Um, it just depends. But if it was, if it was work-related, I'm gonna park where I need to park. If there's a domestic, you know, I'm not parking in front of the house that the domestic's on. I'm parking a couple houses down and I'm gonna walk up. I'm gonna let my fellow officers know, hey, I parked two houses, you know, to the north. So you're gonna have to walk up. That way we're getting up to the house and we can hear everything that's going on naturally, and they don't know that we're there yet. So um, let me

Cop Ego On Camera And Duty To Intervene

SPEAKER_01 2:18:07

see. Well, since we're in the sharing mood on videos here, um let's see. You guys are gonna love this guy. This guy is a treat. Did this officer really challenge him to a fight? Fucking fool.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:20

I might, but sir, don't get in my way. I'm asking.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:24

I want you to look at the officers so you kind of understand where my perspective's at. We're at an apartment complex. Can tell that. I have worked so many calls at apartment complexes. Everybody's just kind of standing around. So, this is what I mean by having a stale scene. We're not actively trying to secure anybody. We're just we're probably in information gathering mode. So keep that in mind.

SPEAKER_06 2:18:50

How far bit me then? How far bit me, sir? How far back me? How far back do you want me? Hit me. Go ahead. I'm right here. How far back do you want me to hit me? Hello? Hit me.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:59

How far back so we have lost all emotional control and ego is all over the place. I don't, and I'm going to admit, I don't know what happened prior on the video. We don't know. He probably did talk some shit to that cop and then started recording and was like, all right. And does that matter? That's my question. Does that matter? Does that give you an excuse to come out of pocket and act like this as a cop? Well, if you're one of those cops that say we are held to a higher standard and we need to be held to a higher standard, no, you can't act like this. You can't challenge citizens to fight. They're like, well, he wasn't challenging them to fight, you just told him to hit him. What if he did hit him? What if he did? I was following a lawful order. He told me to hit him. You think he'd have been in trouble? I kind of wish he would have called his bluff and seen what happened when he hits him. I'd love to see how that played out in court. But at the same time, I know his safety would have been in jeopardy because all three of those cops would have been on him for doing that. But yeah. I'm sorry, you got no business being a cop. Um, I don't know how he gets away with having a man bun, by the way. Look at that thing. How are you allowed to have that as a cop? I don't know. I'm assuming that's Chicago. But what pisses me off even more is cop, cop, nobody's trying to stop this guy. Nobody's trying to prevent him from acting a fool. Um that that's what I really have a problem with on this one. Although, yeah, this dude's out of pocket. And again, here's some more perspective. This officer may be that guy, air quotes. Uh, for just the audio listeners. He may be that guy on the team, and they're like, let him hang himself. That's possible. Because if you look at the body language of these two cops, they're tired of his bullshit. That's the perception I get. They're tired of his bullshit. I could be wrong. But what do you all think on that one? Uh he challenged him and approached him in an aggressive manner. I call that self-defense. I would too. Where's the good cop who reported that before the video went viral? I don't, and that's a thing. We don't know if he they did or not. I don't know. I I don't I don't want to jump down that speculation train. Maybe they did report it, and you don't know. So I have told partners to not write that check. I am not stopping it from being cashed. Officers like that have never heard the old saying, sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt me. A hundred percent. You cannot let what if you're letting that stuff get under your skin, it's time for a vacation. Uh let him hang himself as we neglect our duty to intervene. Right. And that and that's what I say in the video is like, I understand you may not like the guy, the other officers, they may not like that officer, but you can't do it at the expense of the citizens. Um First Amendment freedom of speech means he says is irrelevant unless true threat occurred. Agreed. Um, officers must remain professionals despite any insults or mere words. Agreed. And that's kind of the point of the video. Is like you want to be held to a higher standard, you want to claim to be held to a higher standard. You can't act that way. Um Trevor, holy shit, is that a lawful order? Kills. That is that is not a lawful order. Um, for it to be a lawful order, at least where I'm at in the state of Texas, you have to be very specific. If I tell you to get back, I have to be intentional where you get back to. Because if I don't have crime scene tape out, and this is like, let's say it's an active crime scene, I've got to be able to say, like, look, I told them to get back to this fire hydrant. And then, you know, it was a reasonable distance away. But you just telling a person to get back, and they're even trying to clarify where do you want me to get back to? Like, who is that on? That's on the cop, it's not on that that guy. Um if they don't intervene, they've lost all credibility. Two, the uniform becomes a costume. Um I would I would agree. They definitely should have intervened. Uh, had that officer intervened on the Sonia Massey case, Sonia Massey would still be alive. So let's go to the next video. Um this one. This one caused Did this officer overstep. Why you asking me that?

SPEAKER_02 2:24:02

What's that?

SPEAKER_05 2:24:02

Why you asking me that? Does that mean anything?

SPEAKER_02 2:24:05

I'm asking you.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:06

I ain't I'm sorry, I'll answer the question. No, thank you. No, thank you. I can't hear your ways in your place. I said no, thank you. No, you can't let the ways. No, thank you. You have a firearm on you? I'll answer questions. I'm sorry. No.

SPEAKER_01 2:24:23

You too. All right, you can so let me get my ugly mug off of there. Um, that that's about as great as an encounter as you can get. Um, if you didn't notice, there was another officer in the side seat, in the passenger seat. He never gets out, he never does anything. I think that they were just trying to do some proactive police work, and I bet that was if I were to guess, he looked really young, so that could have been a rookie with his FTO. And I bet the FTO was like, hey, it looks like he might have a gun. What do you want to do? So he pulls over, sees what the rookie's gonna do. He asks, doesn't force the situation, realizes he's got nothing because this guy's standing up for his rights, and wisely makes the decision to get in his car and beat feet. Um, that is the definition of a little proactiveness and being out there, and maybe it's probably it's Philadelphia, so they've definitely got some high violent areas. Maybe that's what they were out there doing. Uh he has the right to ask, and that person had the right to refuse, and everybody respected everybody's rights. Was he trying? Was it was the cop fishing trying? Maybe he saw a little printing or something going on. But like I said, in Texas, that's lawful. I don't know what the laws are in Philadelphia, but at the same time, you got to be able to follow the laws of your state. Um, yeah, Bob said he was printing, I bet he was printing. Uh Don said, I'm about a half hour to 45 minutes north of Philly, and that's why I don't go down there. Um said, proactive, but knowing boundaries. Yeah, agreed. I think that's great. I love proactive policing. I actually got accused uh by somebody because I've said in the past that like there's there's certain types of policing that I don't care for. But I love proactive policing. I think I think cops should be out there being proactive. Um, given that it's not at the expense of letting calls hold. That's that's that's kind of the caveat. Uh Ariel dropped 10 bucks in the super chat and said, I have to be careful on the carry laws, as law in North Dakota is you don't need a complete concealment, but enough the average passerby doesn't notice. Yeah, that's that is a fine line to walk for sure. Appreciate you, Ariel. Thank you very much. Um Booty Man is over there on TikTok. He said good morning uh to Aaron. I got I guess I gotta catch up on my TikTok chat over here. Um Aaron, can you teach my DMs partner how to play? He's called random task. Oh, I'm not even reading my chat, y'all. This is somebody else's chat. There we go. I don't know why. It keeps booting me out of my own thing. Uh and but in my opinion, far too few officers can tell the difference between proactive and fishing. Yeah, I mean, ultimately, proactive policing is fishing in a way. I don't have a problem with fishing as long as it's intelligent fishing. Like I'm in a neighborhood where we've had a ton of burglaries between 12 and 3 a.m. Uh and I am looking for anybody that's on foot and trying to make contact with them to see what they're up to. That's intelligent. Now, how you go about doing it and making sure, you know, when you have a right to detain versus when um it's consensual. Like you gotta know how to do that. Uh speak speak text got me again. Yeah, exactly. It is a finicky bitch. Um let me see here. We've already gone through those videos. Uh did I play the one? Yeah, I did play the one that I wanted to play. I'll probably do a reaction video to that later. Um jumping over to Instagram. I'm not seeing anything. Nothing on TikTok. Uh looking at the chat.

Wrap Up Upcoming Guests And Thanks

SPEAKER_01 2:28:50

Um, we're at two and a half hours uh of a day on online. I didn't plan to have. So I guess you guys got a good bonus video here. I will be downloading this one and popping it on our audio. If you want to listen to it later, or you found out late. I know Mr. Billfold heard this one late, so maybe he'd want to listen to it. Ryan said, I have seen a lot of cops are very pro-Second Amendment. Do you do these uneducated politicians ever seek knowledge about firearms from police and citizens? It doesn't seem I don't think they care. I don't think they care. I think they want to use it for whatever they can to benefit their voting party. I don't think they could give two shits morally or ethically what it is as long as it benefits them in the polls. Time flies when you're having fun. It does go by quick. Um, as you can tell, I'm a talker. I can keep talking about anything police related. My my tank runs on E about three hours in. So right when I hit about the two and a half marks, when I start considering. We've had a lot of chat, so that's why it's easier, especially when you guys take part in the chat. Uh if you guys can, I really appreciate you bringing new eyes to what we do. Um, seems to be happening more and more. I know our guy, I think, brought a lot of people over. Um uh our mods have brought a lot of people over. Uh Ariel and some of the Mr. Bill Fold and stuff. I think that have helped bring a lot of people over in areas that they normally wouldn't. So we really appreciate that. Having these chats is fun. I love doing that, and it it just helps perspective sharing. Um, but yeah. Uh geese blue lives matter. I think everybody's live life matters, um, except pedophiles. Uh so there's that. Um, but yeah, guys, I think I'm gonna end this one. We're right at two and a half hours. Uh, look forward to this. Thank you for all of the donations today. Really appreciate that. Um, again, I I never expect you guys to throw your hard-earned cash our way, but when you do, it really does make a difference and helps us do these bonus episodes and get the guests on that we're trying to get. Um, I'm looking to try to get clearly established on. I've been talking with Southern Draw Law. He's got a connect for that. So we're trying to get him on. Long Island wants to come on to talk about the demonetization. So I am looking to make that a bigger show than just Long Island. I want to get a legal expert and I want to get um some cops that are outside of police work so they can kind of say some things that maybe I can't say, uh, if you know what I mean. So that's what I'm looking to do. Um, do you think attorney shield for cops would be effective the way it has worked for citizens? Um, I don't know. I don't know. That's coming from Don Dunpeel. I don't know. I don't know that I mean most police departments have a union, so if they need a lawyer, they just call up the union and say, I need a represent representation. So Doug Sanguido from Houston. What's up? Over on the TikToks. Um but yeah, you you're late to the party. We're just about to end it. So, but until next time, y'all. I'll talk to you guys later.